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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City

Following on from the thread of things that annoy you, I have found that most of my annoyance is related to me being disabled.

If you haven't read the thread, this is why:

1 - People are impatient because I walk really slow.

2 - People judge me for using walking aids, whether its a stick or frame (apart from in clubs, people go out of their way for me, ie going to the bar, making sure I have a seat and that I'm comfortable)

3 - People assuming my disability is because of my weight and assuming I'm a lazy fat bitch pigging out all day (that is very apparent on here).

4 - Parking right up my arse, when there is a HUGE sticker on my back window politely asking to leave 300m for wheelchair access.

5 - Being tutted at in shops when I'm in my wheelchair. Do you think I wanna be sat in it, when I can't reach High shelves or rails?

So my question is, are you able to tolerate disabled people? In my experience, not many can. The older generation are the worst, with the teenagers being the most helpful.

Over to you, I'd like to hear your views.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know how u feel .although its my nana who has to use a wheelchair and oxegen .. im her career .. its the older generation who whinge about going slow that the chair takes up too much space .

Who park in disabled parking spots then have the nerve to say shes in a chair so so who cares if ive to park down the very end of the parking lot..

its the younger generation who are so helpful .they move out of the way . Open doors if needs be

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I tolerate disabled people and have lots of friends who are disabled - I also had a road accident and had to use a wheelchair for a while, and know what you mean about others' intolerance.

Invisible disabilities are also badly supported by our culture and people who are largely ignorant.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

300m for wheelchair access?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I see past disability and hopefully see the real person that's the way I am

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I spend my working life looking after ill and disabled people they pay my wage

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By *orethancurvesWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Following on from the thread of things that annoy you, I have found that most of my annoyance is related to me being disabled.

If you haven't read the thread, this is why:

1 - People are impatient because I walk really slow.

2 - People judge me for using walking aids, whether its a stick or frame (apart from in clubs, people go out of their way for me, ie going to the bar, making sure I have a seat and that I'm comfortable)

3 - People assuming my disability is because of my weight and assuming I'm a lazy fat bitch pigging out all day (that is very apparent on here).

4 - Parking right up my arse, when there is a HUGE sticker on my back window politely asking to leave 300m for wheelchair access.

5 - Being tutted at in shops when I'm in my wheelchair. Do you think I wanna be sat in it, when I can't reach High shelves or rails?

So my question is, are you able to tolerate disabled people? In my experience, not many can. The older generation are the worst, with the teenagers being the most helpful.

Over to you, I'd like to hear your views.

"

Wow. Well i can say i have never witnessed anyone being the way u describe people being, of course im not with u but my job is working with disabled people and on the whole i find people are very helpful. Nothing worse than trying to navigate a wheelchair with a shopping trolley attatched to the front. Had lots of help in more ways than i can think to mention.

But i will agree the odd time something has happened it has been old people!

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"300m for wheelchair access?"

Yes as my boot is huge and I struggle to get it out in a small space, as does my son.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My Grandama was in a wheelchair and growing up around her gave me valuable empathy with anyone less mobile than me. I am more than happy to be patient and tolerant.

However your not getting 300m of space from me

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

People leaving bins out on the pavement or parking half on the pavement gets up my nose. It makes life very difficult for people in chairs or with kids in prams to get by. I've seen too many people have to take to the road in the face of traffic to get round a car.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts


"300m for wheelchair access?

Yes as my boot is huge and I struggle to get it out in a small space, as does my son."

Do you mean 3M - 10 feet? 300M is longer than some streets

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By *appyguy17Man
over a year ago

walthamstow

Being a cabbie...i'm very used to the disabled ......and i find most of them are very nice and patient.....

At Christmas time i always do lifts on Christmas day.......

Younger people are more aware and they are not bad like some people think they are.....xx

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"300m for wheelchair access?"

To be fair I would be annoyed if I lost all of the high street parking every time you came into town

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"300m for wheelchair access?

Yes as my boot is huge and I struggle to get it out in a small space, as does my son."

Suspect you mean 3m as 300m is a bloody big gap to have to leave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would be out of work if i didnt. We are all human. Should not judge others .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tolerate is the wrong word in my opinion. To me it implies that those people with a disability are in some way a nuisance that able bodied people have to endure. So no, I don't tolerate disabled people.

I encourage them to be the best they can and promote their independence and fight for equality. I will also give the whiney "I can't do this because" ones a swift kick up the arse when they need it.

Can you tell I work with disabled people?!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Yep I'd say I'm pretty tolerant of disabled people for various reasons. What I don't tolerate is rudeness and inconsiderate behaviour from anybody whatever their age or physical ability

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts

On the bus, I get pregnant ladies or women with children, or elderly people offer me a seat when I get on with my crutches... And I always refuse because I'd rather stand then make them stand.. But there's ALWAYS a child/teenager of secondary school age sat opposite where I'm standing and they're too busy on their phone to move and let me sit down. I'd feel like a dick asking though because I've just refused a seat from another person.

Pavements are a pain too! Bumpy and where the dropped curbs are it makes pushing a wheelchair difficult, and it's hard to walk with crutches without falling or anything. And speaking of dropped curbs... None of them drop all the way so it's soooo hard to get a wheelchair up those bumps!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no problem with the disabled.

I help them all I can.

My mum is disabled however, you would think so by looking at her (she has MS) she has strangers telling her she should Park in a disabled bay because they think she isn't, just by looking at her.

Others have thought she has been day time drinking when actually she is un steady on her feet sometimes and loses her balance.

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City

Yes invisible illnesses are a biatchi. I look fine and healthy (other than being morbidly obese), so people assume I'm lazy. If an older person asks what is wrong and I reply with Rheumatoid arthritis (which is just one of my invisible illnesses), they think I'm talking bollocks, as "it's only wjat old people get" and "are you sure its not osteo arthritis because of your weight." No damn it, even kids get RA, my Rheumatoligst wouldn't just make up a diagnosis after thorough and frequents scans and blood tests. Even with chemo the disease is still attacking my body.

M.E, oh that's yuppie flu, no such thing, you're just tired. You'll be better having exercise....um yea and leave my body and Fibromyalgia killing me and leaving me bed bound for days.Tired doesn't cover it. I'd function normally if I was just tired.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One of my best friends is in a wheelchair so I more than tolerate the disabled.

When I go out with her shopping etc I've heard snide comments so I know for a fact you're not over exaggerating.

She feels the same way and would like to be able to do more and ignorant strangers comments do not help.

As always better education is the answer and it's obviously why the younger crowd, are more aware of disabled issues these days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We'll if I am out and can help in some way I will ... Like this week I did a lady in her wheelchair things far to high for her to get her shopping I was very happy to help too.

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

Depends on the person.

In general I will assist or stay out the way and be certain to talk to the person not around them or over their head or about them. If I unintentionally cause a problem (being totally oblivious and walking in front of a moving wheelchair is a classic) I will correct my behaviour and try not to be effusive about it.

In particular I will assist when friends of mine want me to and fuck off and leave them to do it themselves when they want me to.

I will also ignore and avoid obnoxious people who happen to be disabled in the same way I would the able bodied. People are people whether they have full ability or restricted. Sometimes we all need assistance and we all always deserve respect and courtesy.

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"300m for wheelchair access?

Yes as my boot is huge and I struggle to get it out in a small space, as does my son.

Do you mean 3M - 10 feet? 300M is longer than some streets "

hang on, just checked, it's 3 meters, hahahahaha. Dizzy blonde! Just died it red, so no one will know I'm blonde, maybe I should strip the colour out!

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"300m for wheelchair access?

Yes as my boot is huge and I struggle to get it out in a small space, as does my son.

Suspect you mean 3m as 300m is a bloody big gap to have to leave"

Yes, just checked sticker and it is 3M

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By *errygTV/TS
over a year ago

denton

some people maybe in tolorent, but if you was in a accident and could end spending your life in a wheelchair, so i help wheel chair users when they need it

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"Tolerate is the wrong word in my opinion. To me it implies that those people with a disability are in some way a nuisance that able bodied people have to endure. So no, I don't tolerate disabled people.

I encourage them to be the best they can and promote their independence and fight for equality. I will also give the whiney "I can't do this because" ones a swift kick up the arse when they need it.

Can you tell I work with disabled people?!

"

But that is how I am MADE to feel, a nuisance, so tolerate is the perfect word.

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts

Put 3M sticks out of the boot... Nobody will be able to park right up your arse

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

One of my best friends is in a wheelchair. She's young and looks perfectly alright until you see her attempt to walk.

When she's in her scooter people often look at her as though she's chosen that mode of transport just to be lazy.

She also has an adaptation to her wheelchair that turns that into a three wheeler/scooter. Children are frequently impressed and want to know if it goes fast! Adults however are often fascinated but don't look at it frankly or ask her about it. I think people are scared to draw attention to the fact that she's not walking.

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"some people maybe in tolorent, but if you was in a accident and could end spending your life in a wheelchair, so i help wheel chair users when they need it"

I've had 2 serious spine operations, it's fucked my nerves up, so I can barely feel my right leg. Covered in bruises from falling over so much around my home. If I didn't have the op last summer, I'd have also lost my bowel and bladder. I am very lucky and grateful I had a fantastic surgeon. Spine is still fucked and need future ops.

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"Put 3M sticks out of the boot... Nobody will be able to park right up your arse "

I think I should! I've already decorated my walking stick, to give the gawpers summat to gawp at!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My daughter spent most of her childhood needing walking aids, if we went a long way we'd have to take a wheelchair as she could only walk short periods, I can honestly say I never noticed any of this, people where happy to help and her school actually put in a ramp just for her

She has since had an operation on her legs and can walk unaided for short periods, she's getting stronger with time and hopefully one day will walk 'normally'

The only time I can remember someone being arsey was an old woman on the bus sat in the wheel chair space with her shopping trolley who refused to move for us

Some people are just rude it's part of life

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts


"Put 3M sticks out of the boot... Nobody will be able to park right up your arse

I think I should! I've already decorated my walking stick, to give the gawpers summat to gawp at! "

Ooh! Good idea! I might spray paint my crutches fluorescent pink!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tolerate is the wrong word in my opinion. To me it implies that those people with a disability are in some way a nuisance that able bodied people have to endure. So no, I don't tolerate disabled people.

I encourage them to be the best they can and promote their independence and fight for equality. I will also give the whiney "I can't do this because" ones a swift kick up the arse when they need it.

Can you tell I work with disabled people?!

But that is how I am MADE to feel, a nuisance, so tolerate is the perfect word."

Which is why I have an issue with it. No one has the right to make anyone feel that way.

I work with acquired injuries (mainly brain) and I often remind people that any one of us could be in the same situation tomorrow, all it takes is a second.

Those that feel the need to make you feel bad quite obviously have such deep rooted issues they feel they need to make feel people bad to make themselves feel better. They're not worth your time, energy or tears...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes invisible illnesses are a biatchi. I look fine and healthy (other than being morbidly obese), so people assume I'm lazy. If an older person asks what is wrong and I reply with Rheumatoid arthritis (which is just one of my invisible illnesses), they think I'm talking bollocks, as "it's only wjat old people get" and "are you sure its not osteo arthritis because of your weight." No damn it, even kids get RA, my Rheumatoligst wouldn't just make up a diagnosis after thorough and frequents scans and blood tests. Even with chemo the disease is still attacking my body.

M.E, oh that's yuppie flu, no such thing, you're just tired. You'll be better having exercise....um yea and leave my body and Fibromyalgia killing me and leaving me bed bound for days.Tired doesn't cover it. I'd function normally if I was just tired."

For the sake of argument (no offense tended) but that doesnt really explain your obesity? Surly thats over eating. Exercise or lack of wouldn't have much to do with it. There are people with health bmi that don't work out.

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"Tolerate is the wrong word in my opinion. To me it implies that those people with a disability are in some way a nuisance that able bodied people have to endure. So no, I don't tolerate disabled people.

I encourage them to be the best they can and promote their independence and fight for equality. I will also give the whiney "I can't do this because" ones a swift kick up the arse when they need it.

Can you tell I work with disabled people?!

But that is how I am MADE to feel, a nuisance, so tolerate is the perfect word.

Which is why I have an issue with it. No one has the right to make anyone feel that way.

I work with acquired injuries (mainly brain) and I often remind people that any one of us could be in the same situation tomorrow, all it takes is a second.

Those that feel the need to make you feel bad quite obviously have such deep rooted issues they feel they need to make feel people bad to make themselves feel better. They're not worth your time, energy or tears... "

it took several years to realise this and lots of counselling, but didn't help that I couldn't accept my life had changed drastically. I'm much stronger now, but people still grind my gears with the above issues.

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Yes invisible illnesses are a biatchi. I look fine and healthy (other than being morbidly obese), so people assume I'm lazy. If an older person asks what is wrong and I reply with Rheumatoid arthritis (which is just one of my invisible illnesses), they think I'm talking bollocks, as "it's only wjat old people get" and "are you sure its not osteo arthritis because of your weight." No damn it, even kids get RA, my Rheumatoligst wouldn't just make up a diagnosis after thorough and frequents scans and blood tests. Even with chemo the disease is still attacking my body.

M.E, oh that's yuppie flu, no such thing, you're just tired. You'll be better having exercise....um yea and leave my body and Fibromyalgia killing me and leaving me bed bound for days.Tired doesn't cover it. I'd function normally if I was just tired.

For the sake of argument (no offense tended) but that doesnt really explain your obesity? Surly thats over eating. Exercise or lack of wouldn't have much to do with it. There are people with health bmi that don't work out. "

Certain medications cause weight gain, even when eating a very controlled diet that should be causing weight loss.

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"Yes invisible illnesses are a biatchi. I look fine and healthy (other than being morbidly obese), so people assume I'm lazy. If an older person asks what is wrong and I reply with Rheumatoid arthritis (which is just one of my invisible illnesses), they think I'm talking bollocks, as "it's only wjat old people get" and "are you sure its not osteo arthritis because of your weight." No damn it, even kids get RA, my Rheumatoligst wouldn't just make up a diagnosis after thorough and frequents scans and blood tests. Even with chemo the disease is still attacking my body.

M.E, oh that's yuppie flu, no such thing, you're just tired. You'll be better having exercise....um yea and leave my body and Fibromyalgia killing me and leaving me bed bound for days.Tired doesn't cover it. I'd function normally if I was just tired.

For the sake of argument (no offense tended) but that doesnt really explain your obesity? Surly thats over eating. Exercise or lack of wouldn't have much to do with it. There are people with health bmi that don't work out. "

My weight gain was due to my thyroid. I put 10 stone on in 12 months. I went from a size 8 to an 18-20. Now due to my RA, ME and FM, I struggle to exercise, only being able to do one 40 minute hydrotherapy session a week and then it leaves me bed bound for 3 days, so I'm struggling to lose the weight.

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"Yes invisible illnesses are a biatchi. I look fine and healthy (other than being morbidly obese), so people assume I'm lazy. If an older person asks what is wrong and I reply with Rheumatoid arthritis (which is just one of my invisible illnesses), they think I'm talking bollocks, as "it's only wjat old people get" and "are you sure its not osteo arthritis because of your weight." No damn it, even kids get RA, my Rheumatoligst wouldn't just make up a diagnosis after thorough and frequents scans and blood tests. Even with chemo the disease is still attacking my body.

M.E, oh that's yuppie flu, no such thing, you're just tired. You'll be better having exercise....um yea and leave my body and Fibromyalgia killing me and leaving me bed bound for days.Tired doesn't cover it. I'd function normally if I was just tired.

For the sake of argument (no offense tended) but that doesnt really explain your obesity? Surly thats over eating. Exercise or lack of wouldn't have much to do with it. There are people with health bmi that don't work out.

Certain medications cause weight gain, even when eating a very controlled diet that should be causing weight loss."

true, steroids don't help at all

I take 70 tablets daily, even my weekly chemo hasn't made me any slimmer.

Plus physios won't touch me, only thing they'll do is give me acupuncture to help my muscle spasms

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes invisible illnesses are a biatchi. I look fine and healthy (other than being morbidly obese), so people assume I'm lazy. If an older person asks what is wrong and I reply with Rheumatoid arthritis (which is just one of my invisible illnesses), they think I'm talking bollocks, as "it's only wjat old people get" and "are you sure its not osteo arthritis because of your weight." No damn it, even kids get RA, my Rheumatoligst wouldn't just make up a diagnosis after thorough and frequents scans and blood tests. Even with chemo the disease is still attacking my body.

M.E, oh that's yuppie flu, no such thing, you're just tired. You'll be better having exercise....um yea and leave my body and Fibromyalgia killing me and leaving me bed bound for days.Tired doesn't cover it. I'd function normally if I was just tired.

For the sake of argument (no offense tended) but that doesnt really explain your obesity? Surly thats over eating. Exercise or lack of wouldn't have much to do with it. There are people with health bmi that don't work out.

Certain medications cause weight gain, even when eating a very controlled diet that should be causing weight loss."

Maybe maybe not? She hasn't said either way. Also has she compounded the problem by being obese? I doubt its helped.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes invisible illnesses are a biatchi. I look fine and healthy (other than being morbidly obese), so people assume I'm lazy. If an older person asks what is wrong and I reply with Rheumatoid arthritis (which is just one of my invisible illnesses), they think I'm talking bollocks, as "it's only wjat old people get" and "are you sure its not osteo arthritis because of your weight." No damn it, even kids get RA, my Rheumatoligst wouldn't just make up a diagnosis after thorough and frequents scans and blood tests. Even with chemo the disease is still attacking my body.

M.E, oh that's yuppie flu, no such thing, you're just tired. You'll be better having exercise....um yea and leave my body and Fibromyalgia killing me and leaving me bed bound for days.Tired doesn't cover it. I'd function normally if I was just tired.

For the sake of argument (no offense tended) but that doesnt really explain your obesity? Surly thats over eating. Exercise or lack of wouldn't have much to do with it. There are people with health bmi that don't work out.

Certain medications cause weight gain, even when eating a very controlled diet that should be causing weight loss.

true, steroids don't help at all

I take 70 tablets daily, even my weekly chemo hasn't made me any slimmer.

Plus physios won't touch me, only thing they'll do is give me acupuncture to help my muscle spasms"

It hasn't helped meaning it wasn't the cause?

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"Yes invisible illnesses are a biatchi. I look fine and healthy (other than being morbidly obese), so people assume I'm lazy. If an older person asks what is wrong and I reply with Rheumatoid arthritis (which is just one of my invisible illnesses), they think I'm talking bollocks, as "it's only wjat old people get" and "are you sure its not osteo arthritis because of your weight." No damn it, even kids get RA, my Rheumatoligst wouldn't just make up a diagnosis after thorough and frequents scans and blood tests. Even with chemo the disease is still attacking my body.

M.E, oh that's yuppie flu, no such thing, you're just tired. You'll be better having exercise....um yea and leave my body and Fibromyalgia killing me and leaving me bed bound for days.Tired doesn't cover it. I'd function normally if I was just tired.

For the sake of argument (no offense tended) but that doesnt really explain your obesity? Surly thats over eating. Exercise or lack of wouldn't have much to do with it. There are people with health bmi that don't work out.

Certain medications cause weight gain, even when eating a very controlled diet that should be causing weight loss.

true, steroids don't help at all

I take 70 tablets daily, even my weekly chemo hasn't made me any slimmer.

Plus physios won't touch me, only thing they'll do is give me acupuncture to help my muscle spasms

It hasn't helped meaning it wasn't the cause? "

It WAS the cause of the weight gain, my GP and several of my consultants insist it was. You can't put 10 stone on in 12 months from eating shite.

I am still swapping and changing my thyroxin, as my GP can't seem to get the correct dosage.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tolerate is the wrong word in my opinion. To me it implies that those people with a disability are in some way a nuisance that able bodied people have to endure. So no, I don't tolerate disabled people.

I encourage them to be the best they can and promote their independence and fight for equality. I will also give the whiney "I can't do this because" ones a swift kick up the arse when they need it.

Can you tell I work with disabled people?!

"

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff

Members and friends of family, quite a few, have varying degrees of disability and mental difficulties, my collegues too. I love them, I hate the word tolerate but I understand that's how you are made to feel, which is awful. There was another thread discussing disability a while back and people thought they wrre being nice but they were so patronising, just another facets to mistreating people with physical differences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

An underactive thyroid combined with steroids will cause anyone to gain weight. Even the able bodied who take regular exercise.

If you have limited mobility due to injury or a condition such as arthritis it's, sadly, inevitable.

Changing your diet and other aspects of your lifestyle will only have limited results.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Tolerate is the wrong word in my opinion. To me it implies that those people with a disability are in some way a nuisance that able bodied people have to endure. So no, I don't tolerate disabled people.

I encourage them to be the best they can and promote their independence and fight for equality. I will also give the whiney "I can't do this because" ones a swift kick up the arse when they need it.

Can you tell I work with disabled people?!

"

This is what I was going to say. You tolerate something that you dislike or that annoys you. Disabled people are just the same as me but do things differently. That's what I tell my children and grandchildren. My grandchildren don't even bat an eyelid when someone with a wheelchair gets on the bus,they just move out of the way. Disabled children and children with learning difficulties aren't automatically sent to special schools now,they are encouraged to apply for mainstream schools. It's not tolerance or acceptance as far as I'm concerned,it's treating disabled people the same as everyone else but with more differences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On the bus, I get pregnant ladies or women with children, or elderly people offer me a seat when I get on with my crutches... And I always refuse because I'd rather stand then make them stand.. But there's ALWAYS a child/teenager of secondary school age sat opposite where I'm standing and they're too busy on their phone to move and let me sit down. I'd feel like a dick asking though because I've just refused a seat from another person.

Pavements are a pain too! Bumpy and where the dropped curbs are it makes pushing a wheelchair difficult, and it's hard to walk with crutches without falling or anything. And speaking of dropped curbs... None of them drop all the way so it's soooo hard to get a wheelchair up those bumps! "
When my mum was in her nurseing home I,d have a routine mainly on when I,d see her and when I,d bring her up back home but for me Thou it was only just up the road, it Was a matter of negotiateing the kerbs As even a dropped kerb can be Hazardous if you approach it wrong With a wheelchair along with this thou You can,t really visiblely see a slope The route I took which is the main Route from the home There is one and Along with that wheelchairs can tend to pull side ways along with watching Out for bumps etc by the time I,d got home and watching for the traffic I felt I needed the chair to recover.. The going back journey was easier But yes I sympathise for people like Yourself who have not the mobility They,d like, I will or would always Help someone if the time was right, There was a ladie this last winter a Complete stranger to me but it was the day after boxing and the pavements were covered in Ice the ladie in question was struggling to walk on this snow and ice and I just went and Put my arm through hers and helped her Just around the corner to the shop any Shyness just goes if I can help someone like that.

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"Yes invisible illnesses are a biatchi. I look fine and healthy (other than being morbidly obese), so people assume I'm lazy. If an older person asks what is wrong and I reply with Rheumatoid arthritis (which is just one of my invisible illnesses), they think I'm talking bollocks, as "it's only wjat old people get" and "are you sure its not osteo arthritis because of your weight." No damn it, even kids get RA, my Rheumatoligst wouldn't just make up a diagnosis after thorough and frequents scans and blood tests. Even with chemo the disease is still attacking my body.

M.E, oh that's yuppie flu, no such thing, you're just tired. You'll be better having exercise....um yea and leave my body and Fibromyalgia killing me and leaving me bed bound for days.Tired doesn't cover it. I'd function normally if I was just tired.

For the sake of argument (no offense tended) but that doesnt really explain your obesity? Surly thats over eating. Exercise or lack of wouldn't have much to do with it. There are people with health bmi that don't work out.

Certain medications cause weight gain, even when eating a very controlled diet that should be causing weight loss.

Maybe maybe not? She hasn't said either way. Also has she compounded the problem by being obese? I doubt its helped. "

oh and I got all my health issues BEFORE I became obese. Plus, you don't get RA or ME from being fat. RA is an auto-immune disease, fuck all to do with weight.

My spine issues are caused from my previous job and believe it or not, my long distance running when I was a skinny size 8 and that came from 2 neurologists at different hospitals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No tolerance just acceptance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes invisible illnesses are a biatchi. I look fine and healthy (other than being morbidly obese), so people assume I'm lazy. If an older person asks what is wrong and I reply with Rheumatoid arthritis (which is just one of my invisible illnesses), they think I'm talking bollocks, as "it's only wjat old people get" and "are you sure its not osteo arthritis because of your weight." No damn it, even kids get RA, my Rheumatoligst wouldn't just make up a diagnosis after thorough and frequents scans and blood tests. Even with chemo the disease is still attacking my body.

M.E, oh that's yuppie flu, no such thing, you're just tired. You'll be better having exercise....um yea and leave my body and Fibromyalgia killing me and leaving me bed bound for days.Tired doesn't cover it. I'd function normally if I was just tired.

For the sake of argument (no offense tended) but that doesnt really explain your obesity? Surly thats over eating. Exercise or lack of wouldn't have much to do with it. There are people with health bmi that don't work out.

Certain medications cause weight gain, even when eating a very controlled diet that should be causing weight loss.

true, steroids don't help at all

I take 70 tablets daily, even my weekly chemo hasn't made me any slimmer.

Plus physios won't touch me, only thing they'll do is give me acupuncture to help my muscle spasms

It hasn't helped meaning it wasn't the cause?

It WAS the cause of the weight gain, my GP and several of my consultants insist it was. You can't put 10 stone on in 12 months from eating shite.

I am still swapping and changing my thyroxin, as my GP can't seem to get the correct dosage."

There is an interesting article today where a young lad has put on 30 stone in three years after losing his mother. That sort of weight gain is possible albeit in certain circumstances. Poor lad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OA isn't always to do with weight either, it's often to do with injury as i know only to well

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts

The thing you said about your thyroid... Some people think that it's an excuse that fat people use. I didn't know I had a low thyroid until recently because I was on 500 calories a day and still gaining weight. I mean, it wasn't always the right stuff.. But I shouldn't have been gaining weight. Between my blood test, and when I went back 3 weeks later, I had barely eaten anything because I had no money, my mum had no money, we were living off toast... I gained 8kgs in those 3 weeks. Plus, the amount of meds you're taking will definitely screw with your weight. Hope this isn't too personal, but are you on the pill? I always had a bad back as a teenager (and I was only a little bit on th big side), and I couldn't walk when I was on my period because of the back pain, so they put me on the pill. I gained 5 stone in 2 years on a carefully controlled diet and plenty of exercise, just because of the hormones in the pill.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone tries to park up my arse I fart at them .

I am more than tolerant almost all of the time, except when being mown down by motorised disability scooters in supermarkets

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"OA isn't always to do with weight either, it's often to do with injury as i know only to well "

it is indeed

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts


"Anyone tries to park up my arse I fart at them .

I am more than tolerant almost all of the time, except when being mown down by motorised disability scooters in supermarkets "

Best not shop at my local tesco when I'm there then... I only used the scooter once and I ran over 3 people's feet and crashed twice! I use the normal wheelchairs now! Although I screwed up my shoulder so perhaps that's not a good idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Weight doesn't cause osteo-arthritis either. Mine was diagnosed at the age of 21 when I was 9 stone.I've done well so far with it in both knees and a hip. Extra weight I've put on since doesn't help,but it didn't cause it. Disability comes in all forms and severity. I'm thankful mine is mild compared to others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone tries to park up my arse I fart at them .

I am more than tolerant almost all of the time, except when being mown down by motorised disability scooters in supermarkets

Best not shop at my local tesco when I'm there then... I only used the scooter once and I ran over 3 people's feet and crashed twice! I use the normal wheelchairs now! Although I screwed up my shoulder so perhaps that's not a good idea "

i don't mind if it's an accident I can imagine getting used to them is like learning to drive

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts


"Anyone tries to park up my arse I fart at them .

I am more than tolerant almost all of the time, except when being mown down by motorised disability scooters in supermarkets

Best not shop at my local tesco when I'm there then... I only used the scooter once and I ran over 3 people's feet and crashed twice! I use the normal wheelchairs now! Although I screwed up my shoulder so perhaps that's not a good idea

i don't mind if it's an accident I can imagine getting used to them is like learning to drive "

I don't drive.. So perhaps that's why I was so rubbish at it xD plus a glass of wine beforehand didn't help!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone tries to park up my arse I fart at them .

I am more than tolerant almost all of the time, except when being mown down by motorised disability scooters in supermarkets "

Now that is a totally different story. I find aged women the worse around here for speeding along pavements,there's 3 on our street who are lethal

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff


"Yes invisible illnesses are a biatchi. I look fine and healthy (other than being morbidly obese), so people assume I'm lazy. If an older person asks what is wrong and I reply with Rheumatoid arthritis (which is just one of my invisible illnesses), they think I'm talking bollocks, as "it's only wjat old people get" and "are you sure its not osteo arthritis because of your weight." No damn it, even kids get RA, my Rheumatoligst wouldn't just make up a diagnosis after thorough and frequents scans and blood tests. Even with chemo the disease is still attacking my body.

M.E, oh that's yuppie flu, no such thing, you're just tired. You'll be better having exercise....um yea and leave my body and Fibromyalgia killing me and leaving me bed bound for days.Tired doesn't cover it. I'd function normally if I was just tired.

For the sake of argument (no offense tended) but that doesnt really explain your obesity? Surly thats over eating. Exercise or lack of wouldn't have much to do with it. There are people with health bmi that don't work out. "
but why do you think OP's obeisety needs an explanation in the first place? Do you understand that your 'inoffensive' comment dismisses the OP's issues? Do you understand that no, you don't actually need an explanation of someone elses weight? Ever?

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Well at least i know now. I don't take people plying for sympathy at face value. "

My friend is on both steroids which cause weight gain and painkillers which not only cause weight gain even without changing her diet but one of the side effects is hunger! She tries to manage her painkiller use so she takes as few of those as possible but sometimes she needs to, after all they wouldn't be prescribed if she didn't need them (apparently they are one of the last ones to be prescribed).

So after a day of severe pain and healthy eating she has bouts of hunger which are not real hunger but her brain doesn't know the difference. By this point she's had a lot of medication and can be woozy and then finds it very hard to resist eating despite knowing that it's not true hunger.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My Mum has late stage Parkinsons so has just started using a wheelchair, and has had only two trips out using it and hates the looks of distaste on passing peoples faces. I've not been out with her yet with the wheelchair, but when we have been anywhere whilst using her stick and rolator, people have been understanding and helpful, though the looks because of her involuntary movements are very unnerving and she is embarrassed by this, so much so she just wants to stay home these days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone tries to park up my arse I fart at them .

I am more than tolerant almost all of the time, except when being mown down by motorised disability scooters in supermarkets

Best not shop at my local tesco when I'm there then... I only used the scooter once and I ran over 3 people's feet and crashed twice! I use the normal wheelchairs now! Although I screwed up my shoulder so perhaps that's not a good idea

i don't mind if it's an accident I can imagine getting used to them is like learning to drive

I don't drive.. So perhaps that's why I was so rubbish at it xD plus a glass of wine beforehand didn't help!! "

At least it was beforehand and you weren't swigging from the bottle at the time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My Mum has late stage Parkinsons so has just started using a wheelchair, and has had only two trips out using it and hates the looks of distaste on passing peoples faces. I've not been out with her yet with the wheelchair, but when we have been anywhere whilst using her stick and rolator, people have been understanding and helpful, though the looks because of her involuntary movements are very unnerving and she is embarrassed by this, so much so she just wants to stay home these days."

That's so sad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I meant to say it was the day after Boxing day.

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon

Went to a physically handicapped school so i am very tolerant of disabled people and do what whatever i can to help without being condescending

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well at least i know now. I don't take people plying for sympathy at face value.

My friend is on both steroids which cause weight gain and painkillers which not only cause weight gain even without changing her diet but one of the side effects is hunger! She tries to manage her painkiller use so she takes as few of those as possible but sometimes she needs to, after all they wouldn't be prescribed if she didn't need them (apparently they are one of the last ones to be prescribed).

So after a day of severe pain and healthy eating she has bouts of hunger which are not real hunger but her brain doesn't know the difference. By this point she's had a lot of medication and can be woozy and then finds it very hard to resist eating despite knowing that it's not true hunger."

I have that gnawing hunger pain. It's sometimes torture and caused by a chemical imbalance. The feeling is difficult to describe but unless I put something warm and filling in my stomach it drives me mad. I love the times when I can eat normally and have some energy,but that doesn't happen often now. I drink lots of water to try to stave it off but then I feel sick and need the toilet every 10 minutes

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Well at least i know now. I don't take people plying for sympathy at face value.

My friend is on both steroids which cause weight gain and painkillers which not only cause weight gain even without changing her diet but one of the side effects is hunger! She tries to manage her painkiller use so she takes as few of those as possible but sometimes she needs to, after all they wouldn't be prescribed if she didn't need them (apparently they are one of the last ones to be prescribed).

So after a day of severe pain and healthy eating she has bouts of hunger which are not real hunger but her brain doesn't know the difference. By this point she's had a lot of medication and can be woozy and then finds it very hard to resist eating despite knowing that it's not true hunger.

I have that gnawing hunger pain. It's sometimes torture and caused by a chemical imbalance. The feeling is difficult to describe but unless I put something warm and filling in my stomach it drives me mad. I love the times when I can eat normally and have some energy,but that doesn't happen often now. I drink lots of water to try to stave it off but then I feel sick and need the toilet every 10 minutes "

She now has bladder issues (part of her disease progression) so drinking more to stave off the hunger pangs is not an option

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone tries to park up my arse I fart at them .

I am more than tolerant almost all of the time, except when being mown down by motorised disability scooters in supermarkets

Now that is a totally different story. I find aged women the worse around here for speeding along pavements,there's 3 on our street who are lethal "

It's the maniacal look in their eyes that bothers me most

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"An underactive thyroid combined with steroids will cause anyone to gain weight. Even the able bodied who take regular exercise.

If you have limited mobility due to injury or a condition such as arthritis it's, sadly, inevitable.

Changing your diet and other aspects of your lifestyle will only have limited results."

It's actually drugs related to mental health problems that are the biggest cause of weight gain,

Zyprexa being one of the biggest most people who take it will gain around 10% of their body weight within 6 month

paxil is also known for weight gain which is a SSRL drug but used to treat anxiety

depakote what is used to treat bipolar and seizures make upto 44% of users gain around a stone while on the course

martazapine that used to treat depression is well know for weight gain

Zyprexa which is used to treat bipolar and schizophrenia will make around 30% of users gain at least 7% of their body weight

deltas is used for the treatment of asthma, inflammatory bowel disease and rheumatoid arthritis, 60% to 80% of people who are on the hight dosage for treatment of asthma and IBD will gain weight while people on the lower dosage for rheumatoid arthritis are at less risk of weight gain

chlorpropamide which is used for type 2 diabetes can cause weight gain, tenormin other wise know as beta blockers also can make up gain weight

Over all people with mental health problems are more likely to gain weigh though medication than people with pysical problems

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

NO

i dont tolerate friends

they are my friends and i dont judge so what they are in a chair and need help occasionally or they need to walk slow

friends are friends

x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I agree there..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"300m for wheelchair access?"
thats what i thought

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By *ay_666Man
over a year ago

Ilkeston

I know exactly how you feel my wife is disabled and the looks she gets when she'sin her chair are disgusting all because they see her size I think she is being lazy this one time a woman got really pissed off with her in a shop because she wanted to get past and there was no where for her to move as it was a real small aisle it was shocking

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts

I made the mistake of going to the self checkout bit on the scooter... I got stuck trying to get out the other side xD

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I don't tolerate the disabled. I accept them as human beings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"An underactive thyroid combined with steroids will cause anyone to gain weight. Even the able bodied who take regular exercise.

If you have limited mobility due to injury or a condition such as arthritis it's, sadly, inevitable.

Changing your diet and other aspects of your lifestyle will only have limited results.

It's actually drugs related to mental health problems that are the biggest cause of weight gain,

Zyprexa being one of the biggest most people who take it will gain around 10% of their body weight within 6 month

paxil is also known for weight gain which is a SSRL drug but used to treat anxiety

depakote what is used to treat bipolar and seizures make upto 44% of users gain around a stone while on the course

martazapine that used to treat depression is well know for weight gain

Zyprexa which is used to treat bipolar and schizophrenia will make around 30% of users gain at least 7% of their body weight

deltas is used for the treatment of asthma, inflammatory bowel disease and rheumatoid arthritis, 60% to 80% of people who are on the hight dosage for treatment of asthma and IBD will gain weight while people on the lower dosage for rheumatoid arthritis are at less risk of weight gain

chlorpropamide which is used for type 2 diabetes can cause weight gain, tenormin other wise know as beta blockers also can make up gain weight

Over all people with mental health problems are more likely to gain weigh though medication than people with pysical problems "

I know.

In used the thyroid/steroid as an example that most people are able to understand...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"An underactive thyroid combined with steroids will cause anyone to gain weight. Even the able bodied who take regular exercise.

If you have limited mobility due to injury or a condition such as arthritis it's, sadly, inevitable.

Changing your diet and other aspects of your lifestyle will only have limited results.

It's actually drugs related to mental health problems that are the biggest cause of weight gain,

Zyprexa being one of the biggest most people who take it will gain around 10% of their body weight within 6 month

paxil is also known for weight gain which is a SSRL drug but used to treat anxiety

depakote what is used to treat bipolar and seizures make upto 44% of users gain around a stone while on the course

martazapine that used to treat depression is well know for weight gain

Zyprexa which is used to treat bipolar and schizophrenia will make around 30% of users gain at least 7% of their body weight

deltas is used for the treatment of asthma, inflammatory bowel disease and rheumatoid arthritis, 60% to 80% of people who are on the hight dosage for treatment of asthma and IBD will gain weight while people on the lower dosage for rheumatoid arthritis are at less risk of weight gain

chlorpropamide which is used for type 2 diabetes can cause weight gain, tenormin other wise know as beta blockers also can make up gain weight

Over all people with mental health problems are more likely to gain weigh though medication than people with pysical problems "

I take Serotonin which is in Paxil. I was told I will gain weight. I went from 8.5 stone (this was from being seriously ill) to 17 stone in a year. I had no control over my hunger and craved carbs. Previously to that I had a very small appetite, rarely ate anything sweet and never binged. It was like I had changed into another person, even my mum was incredulous as to how fat I had gotten. She said, of all my children I would never had thought it would be you who got fat. I was the underweight, string bean sibling who was teased for being bony

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By *ubblyeveWoman
over a year ago

thurles

are people for for real being so rude to look down on disabled people. people that are rude to disabled, people of different origin or people who are gay or otherwise have serious issues with themselves all people should be treated with respect

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I made the mistake of going to the self checkout bit on the scooter... I got stuck trying to get out the other side xD "

I would have offered you help and tried not to laugh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I made the mistake of going to the self checkout bit on the scooter... I got stuck trying to get out the other side xD "
I wonder if they had cctv set up you may have been recorded, Look up you tube..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Back to the OP. People who haven't had much contact with disabled people will not understand how they function or cope with life. The worse place for intolerance and rudeness is on public transport. People in wheelchairs are often left at the bus stop in favour of the pushchairs in the wheelchair space. Using the underground is a nightmare for me during busy times and when the stations only have stairs. No wonder you don't see anyone in a chair on them. Some civility is needed in the world I think.

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"[Removed by poster at 01/05/15 11:41:09]"

I ain't looking for sympathy, just some understanding from IGNORANT twunts. I don't need sympathy love! If I did, I'd post numerous look at me threads all the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe because I grew up with a twin sister who had cerebral palsy and a friend who had severe rheumatoid arthritis I don't see any disabled person as intolerable. I see people who have a difficult life who get on and live it.

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts


"I made the mistake of going to the self checkout bit on the scooter... I got stuck trying to get out the other side xD

I would have offered you help and tried not to laugh "

A mega hot guy offered to lift the back of the scooter because there wasn't a big enough turning space... I was mortified! I am fat, and I always think I'm heavier than I am so when people offer to do anything involving lifting me or me sitting on their lap or anything I die inside! I got out eventually!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My brother is schizophrenic when he was 20 a group of local lads dragged him up a hill near our house and threw him off the bridge and broke his back because he was the local nutter who talked to himself, they bullied him for years cause he was the 'village idiot'

I honestly do feel mental disabilities are a lot less understood that physical ones, if you are in a wheel chair people can see what's wrong with you if you walk round talking to yourself your just a freak

People just aren't very accepting as humans we don't co exist very well and it will never change

I'm not talking individuals there I mean man kind as a whole

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By *hole Lotta Rosie OP   Woman
over a year ago

Deviant City


"My brother is schizophrenic when he was 20 a group of local lads dragged him up a hill near our house and threw him off the bridge and broke his back because he was the local nutter who talked to himself, they bullied him for years cause he was the 'village idiot'

I honestly do feel mental disabilities are a lot less understood that physical ones, if you are in a wheel chair people can see what's wrong with you if you walk round talking to yourself your just a freak

People just aren't very accepting as humans we don't co exist very well and it will never change

I'm not talking individuals there I mean man kind as a whole

"

very true. Sorry to hear your brother has had to ordeal all of that x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My brother is schizophrenic when he was 20 a group of local lads dragged him up a hill near our house and threw him off the bridge and broke his back because he was the local nutter who talked to himself, they bullied him for years cause he was the 'village idiot'

I honestly do feel mental disabilities are a lot less understood that physical ones, if you are in a wheel chair people can see what's wrong with you if you walk round talking to yourself your just a freak

People just aren't very accepting as humans we don't co exist very well and it will never change

I'm not talking individuals there I mean man kind as a whole

very true. Sorry to hear your brother has had to ordeal all of that x"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe it's just me, but I tolerate all humans.

Unless you're an arse hole.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Maybe it's just me, but I tolerate all humans.

Unless you're an arse hole."

Yep and I ask for tolerance in return.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People's lack of disability awareness. This is down to ignorance. Or I dont give a shit. You should not have to deal with this. But humans can be vile creatures at times.

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