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By *issHottieBottie OP Woman
over a year ago

Kent

I really don't know who to vote for. I'll hold my hands up and say ive only voted a couple of times in the past and not really paid much attention to the whole thing as they all seem to be a bunch of bullshitting idiots.

But this year I want to start voting properly. I've been on a couple of 'who should I vote for' websites and tbh I don't even understdnd half of the points they raise.. I know it's terrible! But it's pickling my brain and I want to understand it better so I can make my vote on the party who is best for me.

Can anyone point me in the right direction of the main points (in plain English) that each party have?

TIA.. X

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

The pub landlord makes a lot of sense

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By *issHottieBottie OP Woman
over a year ago

Kent

"The pub landlord makes a lot of sense "

My cousins husband is al murrays double.. It's quite uncanny!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

** Warning! Warning! Replies in this thread are likely to be tainted by posters individual political bias. Approach with caution! Approach with caution! **

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By *issHottieBottie OP Woman
over a year ago

Kent

"** Warning! Warning! Replies in this thread are likely to be tainted by posters individual political bias. Approach with caution! Approach with caution! **"

Haha.. I expect so but that's the same with any political conversation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Above minimum wage job -conservative

Unemployed - labour

Minimum wage job - you're kinda fucked regardless so monster raving loony party.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have a look at all the parties manifestos, then look at your local candidates. You also need to find if it is a 'safe' or 'marginal' seat. As bad as it sounds, in some areas your individual vote is far less effective.

in the end, its between you and the ballot box...I know in a lot of areas people still vote labour as they think tories are the same as maggie thatcher. .

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By *issHottieBottie OP Woman
over a year ago

Kent

"Above minimum wage job -conservative

Unemployed - labour

Minimum wage job - you're kinda fucked regardless so monster raving loony party."

Oh crap.. I'm just going back to work part time as my lad starts school. Monster Raving Loony it is then..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You're voting for your local MP so look at the website/flyers for the people standing for your local area and decide who you think will do best for your local area.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Above minimum wage job -conservative

That will result in a LOT more people getting fired.

Because think about it.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's a lot of points to suggest - they each talk a great game but it's up to what you want to happen really. Maybe roll a dice or toss a coin?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Take into consideration.

is your local constituency a strong hold for any one party? Mine is so regardless of who I vote for it never changes.

If yours changes with elections then have a look at the manifestos to see which fits your circumstances the best.

It will be a close one again that's for sure!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I won't be voting this time around.

I don't agree with the standards or outright hypocrisy of the candidate for the party of my choice.

Given that I don't wholly agree with the other parties I'll be abstaining.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I won't be voting this time around.

I don't agree with the standards or outright hypocrisy of the candidate for the party of my choice.

Given that I don't wholly agree with the other parties I'll be abstaining. "

I'd spoil my vote rather than abstain. Perhaps with a dick doodle by the candidates name.

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By *aneandpaulCouple
over a year ago

cleveleys

not worth the walk to the polling station

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By *ob6474Man
over a year ago

telford

"I won't be voting this time around.

I don't agree with the standards or outright hypocrisy of the candidate for the party of my choice.

Given that I don't wholly agree with the other parties I'll be abstaining.

I'd spoil my vote rather than abstain. Perhaps with a dick doodle by the candidates name.

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By *issHottieBottie OP Woman
over a year ago

Kent

"I won't be voting this time around.

I don't agree with the standards or outright hypocrisy of the candidate for the party of my choice.

Given that I don't wholly agree with the other parties I'll be abstaining.

I'd spoil my vote rather than abstain. Perhaps with a dick doodle by the candidates name.

This is what I've done previously.. Not the dick doodle bit though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont vote for the government anymore i vote for who i think will do the best for the constituency i live in. Ours just happens to be one of the 23 marginal seats that cameron needs for his majority. The problem for him is the lib dem candidate for our town is the current mp and is very wellliked and respected, even i voted for him last time and i have been tory all my life.

To be honest everything one party says is contradicted by another so you dont know what to believe.

It is time people voted for who they actually wanted rather than tactically to keep someone from getting a seat.

If we all did this the political landscape would be hugely different

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is what I've done previously.. Not the dick doodle bit though

I think it adds gravitas to your protest, and a smile on your face as you walk out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Green Party if you like blue sky thinking and want to live in Utopia.

Labour if you like Communism and Red Ed tripping down the stairs

Conservative just frugal Mehs

UKIP if you like smoking and drinking pints at lunchtime.

Lib Dems Who?

It's not the greatest field to be honest.

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By *issHottieBottie OP Woman
over a year ago

Kent

"Take into consideration.

is your local constituency a strong hold for any one party? Mine is so regardless of who I vote for it never changes.

If yours changes with elections then have a look at the manifestos to see which fits your circumstances the best.

It will be a close one again that's for sure!"

It was labour for a long long time. Probably to do with the coal mining area then it changed to Tory for a bit, then back to labour for 3 elections then the Tories pinched it back last time.

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By *eithoWoman
over a year ago

Chatham

Regardless of how I intend to vote, I can't understand how anyone would want more of the same with this government.

They are pure scum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Regardless of how I intend to vote, I can't understand how anyone would want more of the same with this government.

They are pure scum. "

Not pure scum, more filthy scum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watch a replay of the Last Leg from last night

Paxo wad quite revealing on all of the parties and leaders

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For me the voting system is broken...proportional representation needs to be the way forward...would give the whole country a more balanced political map...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get the tories out. Only alternative is labour. And they are a shadow of their former selves. Unless john Smith gets resurrected they always will be. But still better all round than the blue noses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I won't be voting this time around.

I don't agree with the standards or outright hypocrisy of the candidate for the party of my choice.

Given that I don't wholly agree with the other parties I'll be abstaining.

I'd spoil my vote rather than abstain. Perhaps with a dick doodle by the candidates name.

Oh yeah I always vote even if it's for the rank outsider as a protest to the other choices ~ Emily Pankhurst didn't throw herself under the horse for us not too...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vote Dick Doodle and be an upstanding citizen. Power to the Penis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I won't be voting this time around.

I don't agree with the standards or outright hypocrisy of the candidate for the party of my choice.

Given that I don't wholly agree with the other parties I'll be abstaining.

I'd spoil my vote rather than abstain. Perhaps with a dick doodle by the candidates name.

Oh yeah I always vote even if it's for the rank outsider as a protest to the other choices ~ Emily Pankhurst didn't throw herself under the horse for us not too...

A thing people forget...folk died so that we can vote...so don't waste it...

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

I know I won't be voting UKIP because I don't agree with their policies and the local representative has no personality.

I won't be voting conservative because they are responsible for the privatisation of many public services and this will continue if they get another term.

Other than that, I'm still undecided.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

What are peoples thoughts on making it compulsory to vote?

I think I'm in favour, even though some have said it's "undemocratic" to force people to vote... while I can kinda see the logic in that, I'd still rather see everyone over 18 voting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For me the voting system is broken...proportional representation needs to be the way forward...would give the whole country a more balanced political map...

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could not agree more

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"What are peoples thoughts on making it compulsory to vote?

I think I'm in favour, even though some have said it's "undemocratic" to force people to vote... while I can kinda see the logic in that, I'd still rather see everyone over 18 voting.

As you have said it's undemocratic to force people to vote. Therefore I will never be in favour.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Echoing what a few state - you're voting for your local MP, who will represent you and your area, so take a look at the local candidates.

For the parties -

Conservatives: deep cuts planned in the near future, but refuse to say to what. Leaks state cuts in child benefit, to in work benefits, affecting middle/working classes and families hard. Expect more cuts to out of work benefits too. Aim to clear deficit, but said that last time and didn't. Referendum in a couple of years promised on EU membership.

Labour: continuing some cuts, but not as steep as Cons in short-term. Aiming to clear deficit during this 5 year parliament. NO EU referendum.

LibDem: some cuts planned to public services and benefits. Not expected to retain many seats, due to reneging on their promises last time.

Greens: Liberally minded, reductions to austerity, focus on Green employment for renewables. Protections increased for working/out of work people.

UKIP: EU exit. Party is bankrolled by multi-millionaires, so expect their agenda to be top priority. Potentially end to legal protection, discrimination, job rights and rights gained due to EU membership.

Various other odd parties, depending on your constituency.

Some bias here - I'm undecided but not feeling trustworthy of Conservatives, due to failed promises or UKIP, as think losing EU membership would lead to drop in investments here and businesses leaving - as well as believing in strong rights and protection.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I won't be voting this time around.

I don't agree with the standards or outright hypocrisy of the candidate for the party of my choice.

Given that I don't wholly agree with the other parties I'll be abstaining.

I'd spoil my vote rather than abstain. Perhaps with a dick doodle by the candidates name. Someone in head office might do a copy of that doodle

And frame it and put it up on the wall Something to remember you by..In the Council chamber..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vote Dick Doodle has a certain ring to it

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

If you want a higher minimum wage after the election, council housing to be built and an emphasis to be placed on stronger state education then consider voting for TUSC if they have a candidate in your area.

They want to take the onus off cuts and place it on recovering tens of billions in tax avoidance and evasion.

But if you want to tactically vote, then you know what those choices are already.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Green Party if you like blue sky thinking and want to live in Utopia.

Have you seen how they run the one council they control it's laughable schoolchildren would do better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dick Doodle has better prospects than TUSC

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"Dick Doodle has better prospects than TUSC "

Sad but true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Above minimum wage job -conservative

That will result in a LOT more people getting fired.

Because think about it....."

Hired you mean right?

Employment back to pre recession levels.

The rate that people are being employed is double that of Germany putting us at number one in the EU for employment increase with Germany second.

11,000 people a week coming off job seekers and into employment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dick Doodle has better prospects than TUSC

Sad but true. "

There's is the only political broadcast that perked my interest. Unless the system changes there's no point voting for little parties though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no idea either they all have their good and bad points but none of them stand out for me

Probably won't bother

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By *ngel delight 69Woman
over a year ago

Torquay

"** Warning! Warning! Replies in this thread are likely to be tainted by posters individual political bias. Approach with caution! Approach with caution! **"
hahaha

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By *ngel delight 69Woman
over a year ago

Torquay

Are any of them gonna legalize marijuana. I vote for them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is certainly very personal.

Essentially there is no right or wrong answer it really comes down to what you believe fits with your personal beliefs the best.

Left wing - Labour (They firmly believe in the state - and to a certain extent believe everyone should be equal).

Right Wing - Conservative (They firmly believe in enterprise, industry and Entrepreneurship. They believe that everyone has a duty to pay their own way life and that (with a few exceptions) as a society we shouldn't rely on the state for handouts.

Middle - Lib Dems - they are effectively a mixture of the 2.

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

"Echoing what a few state - you're voting for your local MP, who will represent you and your area, so take a look at the local candidates.

For the parties -

Labour: continuing some cuts, but not as steep as Cons in short-term. Aiming to clear deficit during this 5 year parliament. NO EU referendum.

LibDem: some cuts planned to public services and benefits. Not expected to retain many seats, due to reneging on their promises last time.

Greens: Liberally minded, reductions to austerity, focus on Green employment for renewables. Protections increased for working/out of work people.

Various other odd parties, depending on your constituency.

"Leaks state cuts in child benefit, to in work benefits, affecting middle/working classes and families hard".

It was actually Danny Alexander (I think that's the right name, LibDem wallah in the treasury?) who asked for ideas on how to cut the welfare budget, and Tories rejected the above ideas... now he's "leaked" (splashed it all over the news!) it, trying to smear the Conservatives!

I don't much trust any politicians, but I think with the last 5 years track record of putting the economy back on track, and a sure-fire vote on being in or out of the EU, I know who I'm voting fort this time around.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Conservative

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Keep it simple if you value nhs instead of it being privatised dont vote tory. If you think it infair less well off and vulnerable are relyong on food banks to survive then dont vote tory.

If you think it unfair that same day day bedroom tax came in the rich got 140k tax rebate then dont vote tory.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Keep it simple if you value nhs instead of it being privatised dont vote tory. If you think it infair less well off and vulnerable are relyong on food banks to survive then dont vote tory.

If you think it unfair that same day day bedroom tax came in the rich got 140k tax rebate then dont vote tory."

Fun fact top 10% of earners pay 90% of all income tax.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

"For me the voting system is broken...proportional representation needs to be the way forward...would give the whole country a more balanced political map...

This.

With PR, each vote counts. With FPTP, if you're in a safe seat for a party you don't like, or if you favour one of the minority parties, there's often little point in voting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Choose the one you think is the least worst.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Green Party will get my vote as they care about the environment whilst all the other parties only care about money.

crystal

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

"Above minimum wage job -conservative

That will result in a LOT more people getting fired.

Because think about it.....

Hired you mean right?

Employment back to pre recession levels.

The rate that people are being employed is double that of Germany putting us at number one in the EU for employment increase with Germany second.

11,000 people a week coming off job seekers and into employment.

Really? You believe that? That 11,000 people coming of job seekers are all going into employment?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Above minimum wage job -conservative

That will result in a LOT more people getting fired.

Because think about it.....

Hired you mean right?

Employment back to pre recession levels.

The rate that people are being employed is double that of Germany putting us at number one in the EU for employment increase with Germany second.

11,000 people a week coming off job seekers and into employment.

Really? You believe that? That 11,000 people coming of job seekers are all going into employment? "

That's the figure of people going into work averaged out into "weeks" not the figure for people comming off job seekers into education etc.

Which may be higher but I havnt seen statistics for that.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

I'm as confused as the OP!! Will keep an eye on this. Better to listen to Fabbers than the politicians, lol

Last time round we didn't get any info through our door so I doodled on my ballot paper to. I do want to vote locally for who will do the best thing for me and my family this time tho. I know I will definitely not be in the blue corner tho.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Choose the one you think is the least worst."

You can also apply this advice to taking a life partner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm too lazy to read all the posts, but check out voteforpolicies . org

Pick the most important issues to you, and it should tell you which party you're most aligned to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I really don't know who to vote for. I'll hold my hands up and say ive only voted a couple of times in the past and not really paid much attention to the whole thing as they all seem to be a bunch of bullshitting idiots.

Can anyone point me in the right direction of the main points (in plain English) that each party have?

TIA.. X "

Difficult choice. Do you vote for the party you want in power or for your local constituent? Where I live, we had the Conservative candidate in post for decades, even when Labour ran the country. Personally, I have no idea who to vote for this time round, they all seem to be squabbling, ripping each other into shreds and generally behaving like silly school kids. Not sure if I want any of them deciding how the country should to be run.

Sorry, this is no help to you, is it!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Choose the one you think is the least worst.

You can also apply this advice to taking a life partner."

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"I'm too lazy to read all the posts, but check out voteforpolicies . org

Pick the most important issues to you, and it should tell you which party you're most aligned to. "

I came out 50:50 Labour/Green

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I won't be voting this time around.

I don't agree with the standards or outright hypocrisy of the candidate for the party of my choice.

Given that I don't wholly agree with the other parties I'll be abstaining. "

this is daft. protest vote is a spoilt ballot.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"This is certainly very personal.

Essentially there is no right or wrong answer it really comes down to what you believe fits with your personal beliefs the best.

Left wing - Labour (They firmly believe in the state - and to a certain extent believe everyone should be equal).

Middle - Lib Dems - they are effectively a mixture of the 2. "

Jesus - New Labour and Socialism parted company a long time ago.

Labour essentially are 'Tories lite'

The Tories hate anyone who earns under 50K a year

Lib Dems......who?

UKIP - are you Enoch Powell in disguise?

Greens.... HAHAHAHA

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"This is certainly very personal.

Essentially there is no right or wrong answer it really comes down to what you believe fits with your personal beliefs the best.

Left wing - Labour (They firmly believe in the state - and to a certain extent believe everyone should be equal).

Middle - Lib Dems - they are effectively a mixture of the 2.

Jesus - New Labour and Socialism parted company a long time ago.

Labour essentially are 'Tories lite'

The Tories hate anyone who earns under 50K a year

Lib Dems......who?

UKIP - are you Enoch Powell in disguise?

Greens.... HAHAHAHA

In summary, most of us are pretty much fucked whatever we do.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

"This is certainly very personal.

Essentially there is no right or wrong answer it really comes down to what you believe fits with your personal beliefs the best.

Left wing - Labour (They firmly believe in the state - and to a certain extent believe everyone should be equal).

Middle - Lib Dems - they are effectively a mixture of the 2.

Jesus - New Labour and Socialism parted company a long time ago.

Labour essentially are 'Tories lite'

The Tories hate anyone who earns under 50K a year

Lib Dems......who?

UKIP - are you Enoch Powell in disguise?

Greens.... HAHAHAHA

In summary, most of us are pretty much fucked whatever we do."

Not quite, Comrade.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"This is certainly very personal.

Essentially there is no right or wrong answer it really comes down to what you believe fits with your personal beliefs the best.

Left wing - Labour (They firmly believe in the state - and to a certain extent believe everyone should be equal).

Middle - Lib Dems - they are effectively a mixture of the 2.

Jesus - New Labour and Socialism parted company a long time ago.

Labour essentially are 'Tories lite'

The Tories hate anyone who earns under 50K a year

Lib Dems......who?

UKIP - are you Enoch Powell in disguise?

Greens.... HAHAHAHA

In summary, most of us are pretty much fucked whatever we do.

Not quite, Comrade.

Ooh I say, that furry hat suits you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Labour under Wilson - fucked the economy

Labour under Callaghan - fucked the economy

Labour under Blair, Brown - fucked the economy

Labour under Milliband, Balls - although they will fuck the economy, they will pair with the SNP because they'll really fuck the economy.

Choose wisely.

It's OK saying vote for your local prospective MP, which is all you can do, because they represent the area better but in reality, almost without exception, they toe the party line on every topic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For me the voting system is broken...proportional representation needs to be the way forward...would give the whole country a more balanced political map...

This.

With PR, each vote counts. With FPTP, if you're in a safe seat for a party you don't like, or if you favour one of the minority parties, there's often little point in voting.

Whilst PR sounds good in theory, and appears fairer, there is one massive downside.

Let's say the result is :

Labour 160 seats

Tory 160 seats

UKIP 120

Liberal 120 seats

Greens 40 seats

Others ; the balance.

EVERY single MP selected will be career politicians selected from party lists of the party elite and sycophants.

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford

EVERY single MP selected will be career politicians selected from party lists of the party elite and sycophants."

And this is different from the current system how exactly?

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

"I'm too lazy to read all the posts, but check out voteforpolicies . org

Pick the most important issues to you, and it should tell you which party you're most aligned to. "

Quite handy that....thank you. I came out 50% ukip, 33% labour and 17% green. Might still do a do, lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm too lazy to read all the posts, but check out voteforpolicies . org

Pick the most important issues to you, and it should tell you which party you're most aligned to.

Quite handy that....thank you. I came out 50% ukip, 33% labour and 17% green. Might still do a do, lol"

No worries, glad to help

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