FabSwingers.com forum: Muslims praying at half time at Anfieled

By *aneandpaul OP Couple
over a year ago

cleveleys

why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does anfield have an east stand

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray "

How does that make you feel?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dedication to their team perhaps?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray "

What does it matter?

Maybe it'll help the team!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray "

Because they wanted to watch the football match?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray

Because they wanted to watch the football match?

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Nah they've just seen Liverpool play before

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray "

I have suspicions about the authenticity of that picture. I imagine some nob heads might stage something like just to get the sort of attention that this is getting.....

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray "

Where is the story? I was led to believe this was from a few days ago and they were praying in commemoration of the victims of the Hillsborough disaster.

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's funny is if they'd have been there in the stands hands clasped together praying for our Lord the zombie Jesus to a help them score they'd be held up as true fans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The pic is genuine, I don't understand the outrage, it's not like any fan has ever prayed for a win for his team before

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray

Where is the story? I was led to believe this was from a few days ago and they were praying in commemoration of the victims of the Hillsborough disaster.

Mr ddc"

No they just nipped into the stair well to say their daily prayers at half time and some my pet took a picture and stuck it on twitter calling them a disgrace.

The main response from people has been to call this idiot out on being a bigot and not really fussed about the guy and his son quietly saying their prayers our of the way at half time.

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By *4nc3rCouple
over a year ago

Clacton-On-Sea, Essex

So since when were Muslims not allowed to watch football?

They may have been praying because of their faith or considering this was hillsborough memorial week it may well have been that too.... Either way, does it matter to you? Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bigotry is so last decade.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So since when were Muslims not allowed to watch football?

They may have been praying because of their faith or considering this was hillsborough memorial week it may well have been that too.... Either way, does it matter to you? Lol "

They said it was because they would have missed the windows to say the prayer if they waited till after the match so just went at half time.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"What's funny is if they'd have been there in the stands hands clasped together praying for our Lord the zombie Jesus to a help them score they'd be held up as true fans.

It's all about the type of prayer, obviously!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are Muslim praying is a way of life they were doing absoloutely no harm to anybody. I don't understand the uproar? Most places have multi faith rooms or spaces available for people to pray.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray

Where is the story? I was led to believe this was from a few days ago and they were praying in commemoration of the victims of the Hillsborough disaster.

Mr ddc

No they just nipped into the stair well to say their daily prayers at half time and some my pet took a picture and stuck it on twitter calling them a disgrace.

The main response from people has been to call this idiot out on being a bigot and not really fussed about the guy and his son quietly saying their prayers our of the way at half time. "

Thanks

My mistake, the story just happened to hit the Torygraph on the same day as the Hillsborough anniversary, so I just assumed it was linked.

Just out of interest, what was the half time score, and did they win?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a muslim myself i can say there are 5 daily prayers...each prayer has a window if opportunity per say and im guessing the sunset prayer is the one they prayed as the sun sets very quickly so the window is about 30mins...

we are all human and im living proof cos im on here...although i wish i could control my desires...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As a muslim myself i can say there are 5 daily prayers...each prayer has a window if opportunity per say and im guessing the sunset prayer is the one they prayed as the sun sets very quickly so the window is about 30mins...

we are all human and im living proof cos im on here...although i wish i could control my desires...

I like how people pick and choose the parts of their religion they're going to follow based on the rules that get in their way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray

What does it matter?

Maybe it'll help the team! "

They need more then prayers at anfield

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray "

As the need to pray comes around 5 times a day it's not likely that all Muslims will avoid doing anything at all as it will clash with praying.

How often are Christians commanded to pray? The good Nuns of the church I know have seven prayers a day:

Office of Readings

Morning Prayer

Mid-morning prayer

Mid-day prayer

Mid-afternoon prayer

Evening prayer

Night Prayer

They still manage to get out and do their community work.

The ordained Buddhists I know do four times a day and still manage to do others things too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we are all human and im living proof cos im on here...although i wish i could control my desires...

I like how people pick and choose the parts of their religion they're going to follow based on the rules that get in their way "

As a human we all fall for our desires just like Adam....difference is Adam asked for forgiveness to the Most merciful.....hence why muslims follow Allah...you seriously think a human can be good 100% of the time?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

For many their almighty faith is to the god Football. Prayer seems to feature quite a lot.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

They weren't in anyone's way. They asked security staff if it was ok.

I don't see the problem. And the guy who posted the picture calling them a disgrace needs to take a long look in the mirror..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They weren't in anyone's way. They asked security staff if it was ok.

I don't see the problem. And the guy who posted the picture calling them a disgrace needs to take a long look in the mirror.. "

Faith in humanity restored

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why can't someone go to a match and pray? Never knew it had become illegal.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

"They weren't in anyone's way. They asked security staff if it was ok.

I don't see the problem. And the guy who posted the picture calling them a disgrace needs to take a long look in the mirror.. "

Plus Liverpool FC have stated they will take action against the guy who took the picture and tweeted it.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"They weren't in anyone's way. They asked security staff if it was ok.

I don't see the problem. And the guy who posted the picture calling them a disgrace needs to take a long look in the mirror..

Faith in humanity restored

It's not even humanity, I dont see how or why anyone with half a brain cell would have an issued with 2 guys quietly doing their thing. It's not like they stomped into the middle of the pitch and rolled out the mats in the middle of the second half!

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"They weren't in anyone's way. They asked security staff if it was ok.

I don't see the problem. And the guy who posted the picture calling them a disgrace needs to take a long look in the mirror..

Plus Liverpool FC have stated they will take action against the guy who took the picture and tweeted it.

Good! He's a fucking bellend!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Exactly right gossipgirl...although to those two guys prayer is more important than a match n if it came to it they would have to roll mats on the pitch if there was no space left on earth lol

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By *ogistical NightmaresCouple
over a year ago

Manchester Area

As far as I know it was taken at the Blackburn match last Monday, it had already gone viral before the Hillsborough memorial service. The question is... what is the problem with people following the rules of their faith, we live in a multicultural society and this extends to and is accepted by football fans the length and breadth of the country (unless you occasionally happen to use the Paris metro...... oops me bad)

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"Exactly right gossipgirl...although to those two guys prayer is more important than a match n if it came to it they would have to roll mats on the pitch if there was no space left on earth lol"

Yeah well I think that might of been pushing it!

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By *rank_SimoneCouple
over a year ago

Bideford

Would have no problem with anyone wished to pray at start half time or and end of match unless it stopped me getting my beer.

Have no problem with any religion and I will respect their choice as long as they respect mine and don't tell me what I can do or not do.

End of the day they paid their money so as long as its not breaking any club rules they can do what they want.

Plenty go to matches and fall asleep ....... and there are plenty that go to matches and dream full stop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

next up..

filthy muslim eats bacon sarnie..DISGRACE!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I often pray at football matches too!

That might have something to do with my team always fucking shit up though!

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By *gNeMan
over a year ago

Harrogate

I like how people pick and choose the parts of their religion they're going to follow based on the rules that get in their way "

Are you saying that in order to be religious, one must be a fundamentalist?

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By *hekaiserMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"So since when were Muslims not allowed to watch football?

They may have been praying because of their faith or considering this was hillsborough memorial week it may well have been that too.... Either way, does it matter to you? Lol "

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

you're not a Hartlepool supporter are you ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we are all human and im living proof cos im on here...although i wish i could control my desires...

I like how people pick and choose the parts of their religion they're going to follow based on the rules that get in their way "

Really? I'd argue if more people left behind some of the more ludicrous and damaging bits of their religion while living by the positive aspects, they would be much happier.

(Lapsed Catholic keeping to only the good bits of it here.)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray "

Muslims pray 5 times a day. Are they supposed to stay at home forever?

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray "
because they knew there would be half time and they could do it then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we are all human and im living proof cos im on here...although i wish i could control my desires...

I like how people pick and choose the parts of their religion they're going to follow based on the rules that get in their way

So are you bad by being on this site?

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

In my experience ..there are 2 guaranteed car crash conversations...religion and politics ....we all have opinions on them but they are sometimes best kept personal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"next up..

filthy muslim eats bacon sarnie..DISGRACE!"

Ed Milliband has beaten them to it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There has been a prayer area for Muslims in the main stand at Upton Park for a few seasons now. Sometimes you get yobs trying to obstruct the prayers but they carry on regardless.

Also the community project at West Ham often distribute free or subsidised tickets to the local mosques to try and get the locals to come and support the team. Tickets are given to the local Christian schools as well. This from a club that it owned by two Jewish gentlemen. They believe in getting the local community involved in the club, and as many of the locals are Muslim they are very welcome at the club.

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"They weren't in anyone's way. They asked security staff if it was ok.

I don't see the problem. And the guy who posted the picture calling them a disgrace needs to take a long look in the mirror.. "

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray "

I notice you've been very quiet since starting this thread, care to share your views? Or just lighting the blue touch paper and standing well back?!

Why shouldn't Muslims go to matches be allowed to pray as long as it's out if the way of people? I don't mean it shouldn't be viewed by others, just not in the middle of a gang way.

Are you saying Muslims should not pray at all or that they should not have social lives? Prayer times happen during the working day, should Muslims not be allowed to.pray if they work or should they not work of they wish to pray, after all it could impact on your day....not really sure how but I'm sure some would say it does.

Let them be, it's not like they were trying to radicalise anyone by doing it.

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By *tloversCouple
over a year ago

Warrington

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By *tloversCouple
over a year ago

Warrington

Group memorial prayers please for the op who just committed fabicide. ..

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By *reelove1969Couple
over a year ago

bristol

I not sure why they committed 'fabaside' by asking a question .there are many people still in this day and age who live in small communities and this multi cultural living has not hit them yet

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman
over a year ago

B & M Bargains

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray "

Why did someone feel the need to take a photo and post it on Twitter?

Are you suggesting Muslims need to refrain from anything that might clash with prayers?

Would you rather all Muslims stay at home all day to pray just in case some narrow minded racist takes offence?

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By *gNeMan
over a year ago

Harrogate

"I not sure why they committed 'fabaside' by asking a question .there are many people still in this day and age who live in small communities and this multi cultural living has not hit them yet"

Very true, people on these forums tend to love ganging upon on those whose life experience differs from there own.

It's sad coming from a supposedly liberal, enlightened, and sexually liberated community.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe it was there plan to get a bit of publicity for Islam? And now it's even hit fab.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There has been a prayer area for Muslims in the main stand at Upton Park for a few seasons now. Sometimes you get yobs trying to obstruct the prayers but they carry on regardless.

Are you not going to be faced with a severe shortage of "locals" at your new ground?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"They weren't in anyone's way. They asked security staff if it was ok.

I don't see the problem. And the guy who posted the picture calling them a disgrace needs to take a long look in the mirror..

Plus Liverpool FC have stated they will take action against the guy who took the picture and tweeted it.

Good. I think it says more about him than two people praying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray

Why did someone feel the need to take a photo and post it on Twitter?

Are you suggesting Muslims need to refrain from anything that might clash with prayers?

Would you rather all Muslims stay at home all day to pray just in case some narrow minded racist takes offence?"

For some people, Twitter has become their religion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why can't someone go to a match and pray? Never knew it had become illegal."

It feels more like they're going for the imorral rather than illigal angle from what I can gather on this thread.....

Still sounds like bullshit though

Who see's that and thinks

'imagine the headline! TWO MEN PRAY AT FOOTBALL!

yes.....I must take a photo!'

Dick.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I not sure why they committed 'fabaside' by asking a question .there are many people still in this day and age who live in small communities and this multi cultural living has not hit them yet"

Somehow swinging has.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I not sure why they committed 'fabaside' by asking a question .there are many people still in this day and age who live in small communities and this multi cultural living has not hit them yet

Somehow swinging has."

Aaaaand we all know how open minded some are here!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

am I the only one who couldn't care xD

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By *layfull pairingCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

As a lifelong bristol city fan i have often prayed at matches....to any god that might listen...be he christian, muslim or any other . . No bugger ever listened

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mental, I'm more disgusted at the bacon sarnie comment...

Didn't even mention the HP sauce...

,that is one messed up individual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we are all human and im living proof cos im on here...although i wish i could control my desires...

I like how people pick and choose the parts of their religion they're going to follow based on the rules that get in their way

In terms of mistakes and evils to make fucking around is one of the easier sins to avoid.

Penalty for adultery is death isn't it?

Didn't know there was a get out clause if you prayed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There has been a prayer area for Muslims in the main stand at Upton Park for a few seasons now. Sometimes you get yobs trying to obstruct the prayers but they carry on regardless.

Are you not going to be faced with a severe shortage of "locals" at your new ground? "

No , Stratford is still local to Upton Park and is still well within the West Ham catchment area. In fact they are not even changing boroughs.

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

As a human we all fall for our desires just like Adam...."

Hey......you leave me out of this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I not sure why they committed 'fabaside' by asking a question .there are many people still in this day and age who live in small communities and this multi cultural living has not hit them yet

Somehow swinging has.

Aaaaand we all know how open minded some are here!

Do you need to be that open-minded to let someone with pretty traditional views pray when they need to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray "

They're just living their lives.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There has been a prayer area for Muslims in the main stand at Upton Park for a few seasons now. Sometimes you get yobs trying to obstruct the prayers but they carry on regardless.

Are you not going to be faced with a severe shortage of "locals" at your new ground?

No , Stratford is still local to Upton Park and is still well within the West Ham catchment area. In fact they are not even changing boroughs. "

I don't give a toss if the new ground is half empty we got to rub the Yddos (PC) and Barry " I am a God" Hearns Nose in it

Gimp

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I heard most of the Liverpool fans had no problem with these guys praying.it was just the few odd twats that you get in all cultures and walks of life that were outraged

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

"As a lifelong bristol city fan i have often prayed at matches....to any god that might listen...be he christian, muslim or any other . . No bugger ever listened

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seems to have this season well done best team we have seen at boundary park this season congrats on the promotion

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By *dam and slutCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

we are all human and im living proof cos im on here...although i wish i could control my desires...

I like how people pick and choose the parts of their religion they're going to follow based on the rules that get in their way

Oiiii don't bring me into this debate...and l seek no forgiveness...

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"I heard most of the Liverpool fans had no problem with these guys praying.it was just the few odd twats that you get in all cultures and walks of life that were outraged"

I expect most of them had no idea it was even happening until the idiot that took the photo posted it on Twitter..

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

My issue how the hell did they get a prayer mat in to anfield and obstructing a stairwell (health and safety)

At my ground pretty much nothing is allowed in to the ground iPads and bottle of pop being one of them.

How I would feel if I saw to Muslim guys praying at ot. I would be respectful at the time but I would write to the club to enquire about it. The stewards may have said it is ok, but what about those people that may have been offended by seeing it.

I have no problem with a multi faith room, and my organisation has one. What I have an issue about is surly the guys knew it was prayer time. What's more important prayers or football.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"My issue how the hell did they get a prayer mat in to anfield and obstructing a stairwell (health and safety)

At my ground pretty much nothing is allowed in to the ground iPads and bottle of pop being one of them.

I have no problem with a multi faith room, and my organisation has one. What I have an issue about is surly the guys knew it was prayer time. What's more important prayers or football.

The people that may of been offended by it?? Why would anyone be offended by it? I've seen people sat in Costa reading the bible would that be offensive? No.. They aren't in anyone's way. They asked, the stewards said it was fine, they weren't obstructing anything. They caused no problem to anyone at all. Most people wouldn't even of been aware of it until the guy posted the picture.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try living in Glasgow

Religion, Politics and Football are one mighty huge powder keg.

Unfortunately since football began up here it and religion go hand in hand and is the cause of many a murder in the city's streets on derby day.

I don't even mean Christian/Islam/Judea or whatever religions either. I mean the simple difference of being a Protestant or a Catholic in this City can be the difference of life and death on derby day

I am a practicing Buddhist and meditate 3 times per day none of which clash with a 3pm kick off and do not at any given time let life or mindless bigots stop me.

Life is for living not for getting caught up in mindless bickering and fighting over my God is better than yours or my suntan is darker than yours.

We have a saying North of the Border "We are aw Jock Tamsons Bairns" ie we are all fundamentally the same children under the sky regardless of colour, creed or religion

Life is hard enough without bickering about two guys giving thanks to Allah at a football match

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try living in Glasgow

Religion, Politics and Football are one mighty huge powder keg.

Unfortunately since football began up here it and religion go hand in hand and is the cause of many a murder in the city's streets on derby day.

I am a practicing Buddhist and meditate 3 times per day none of which clash with a 3pm kick off and do not at any given time let life or mindless bigots stop me.

Life is for living not for getting caught up in mindless bickering and fighting over my God is better than yours or my suntan is darker than yours.

We have a saying North of the Border "We are aw Jock Tamsons Bairns" ie we are all fundamentally the same children under the sky regardless of colour, creed or religion

Life is hard enough without bickering about two guys giving thanks to Allah at a football match "
this

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

"Try living in Glasgow

Religion, Politics and Football are one mighty huge powder keg.

I can remember hearing Frankie Boyle talking about taking someone to a match and him getting a crash course in Scottish history and sectarianism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mental, I'm more disgusted at the bacon sarnie comment...

Didn't even mention the HP sauce...

,that is one messed up individual"

rather have french mustard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They weren't in anyone's way. They asked security staff if it was ok.

I don't see the problem. And the guy who posted the picture calling them a disgrace needs to take a long look in the mirror.. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They weren't in anyone's way. They asked security staff if it was ok.

I don't see the problem. And the guy who posted the picture calling them a disgrace needs to take a long look in the mirror.. "

This.

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over a year ago

"Mental, I'm more disgusted at the bacon sarnie comment...

Didn't even mention the HP sauce...

,that is one messed up individual"

Heathen you should be burnt at the stake Tommy ketchup all the way!!!

Seriously though I don't care what religion you are or how strict. I'm an atheist who has taken the time to learn at least something about other religions. I follow the wiccan mantra of do on to others as you'd wish done to yourself. I think the situation with Muslims is akin to the paranoia in the 50's-60's that America had towards communism.

The sooner the 3 big religion realise the all follow the same God just different teachings the sooner perhaps we can on get on together.

One more thing Fab would be pretty empty if everyone stuck to their faiths so no reason to call out an individual because of theirs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's a really powerful image that shows multiculturalism in a positive way. Sadly too many people just see Muslims and desperately look for a reason to be angry and offended.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray "

Really don't see the problem. You could say the same about going to work, school, the gym, the cinema, Alton Towers etc

Their belief is strong, and they need to get it around their life. Not hurting anyone.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"My issue how the hell did they get a prayer mat in to anfield and obstructing a stairwell (health and safety)

At my ground pretty much nothing is allowed in to the ground iPads and bottle of pop being one of them.

I have no problem with a multi faith room, and my organisation has one. What I have an issue about is surly the guys knew it was prayer time. What's more important prayers or football.

What possible health and safety issues does a prayer mat cause?! It can be unrolled for searching prior to entry into the ground and is hardly going to cause much damage to anyone is it. Typical 'think about the children!!!' response!

IPads....why the fuck would anyone want to take one of those to a football ground? The risk of it getting stolen or broken is quite high. Bottles of pop are sold on site so I'd guess that explains part of why they aren't allowed. The other being the delightful 'fans' that fill the empty bottles with piss and throw them about or use the bottle tops as missiles to throw and the players...how they claim to be a fan of the game I will never understand.

Would you be offended by a Catholic using rosary beads in the stands to pray? By Christians clasping their hands with beads bowed in prayer? What is it that is so offensive about Muslims saying prayer that you would feel the need to write to the club?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My issue how the hell did they get a prayer mat in to anfield and obstructing a stairwell (health and safety)

At my ground pretty much nothing is allowed in to the ground iPads and bottle of pop being one of them.

I have no problem with a multi faith room, and my organisation has one. What I have an issue about is surly the guys knew it was prayer time. What's more important prayers or football.

Health and safety and writing to the ground!!!! I bet your great fun at parties

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try living in Glasgow

Religion, Politics and Football are one mighty huge powder keg.

Unfortunately since football began up here it and religion go hand in hand and is the cause of many a murder in the city's streets on derby day.

I am a practicing Buddhist and meditate 3 times per day none of which clash with a 3pm kick off and do not at any given time let life or mindless bigots stop me.

Life is for living not for getting caught up in mindless bickering and fighting over my God is better than yours or my suntan is darker than yours.

We have a saying North of the Border "We are aw Jock Tamsons Bairns" ie we are all fundamentally the same children under the sky regardless of colour, creed or religion

Life is hard enough without bickering about two guys giving thanks to Allah at a football match "

Aww my ex mother in law says that saying about Jock Tamson.

Who really cares about people praying. I couldn't care less. More important things in the world to worry about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My issue how the hell did they get a prayer mat in to anfield and obstructing a stairwell (health and safety)

At my ground pretty much nothing is allowed in to the ground iPads and bottle of pop being one of them.

I have no problem with a multi faith room, and my organisation has one. What I have an issue about is surly the guys knew it was prayer time. What's more important prayers or football.

Offended by seeing someone praying ?

What sort of a sheltered upbringing have you had ?

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"I don't like Muslims so I'll pretend this thread is about anything but that."

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By *earboynottinghamMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

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By *eithoWoman
over a year ago

Chatham

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray

Because they wanted to watch the football match?

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By *earboynottinghamMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK."

Of*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK."

Well no it's not is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK."

what utter pish

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By *earboynottinghamMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish"

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

So that's why I never see Muslims in the supermarket. I did wonder.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

So that's why I never see Muslims in the supermarket. I did wonder."

Lol..touché

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why are so many so called liberated people afraid of other people's belief systems?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone praying would probably be the LEAST offensive thing you could see at a football match up here. I'm a whole lot more offended by Mike Ashley's face.

Really, who gives a fuck? It's not like the whole match was suspended until they'd finished.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

Surely they are better placed to make that decision than you are?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

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By *earboynottinghamMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries"

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

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By *ouplekinkCouple
over a year ago

kink town

" we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

Why?

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By *earboynottinghamMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries"

As I said that in itself is not islamification but is a symptom of a wider islamification of the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

and become fascists?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

Why must we? Surely discouraging ignorance and promoting acceptance is they way forward. They were not.hiring anybody, they were not radicalising everybody, they were just living their life in a different way to you.

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By *earboynottinghamMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

and become fascists?"

The face of fascism in 2015 is islam.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

Yoi clearly know nothing of the religion you are talking about.

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By *earboynottinghamMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

Acceptance and tolerance is a two way street though, why would I tolerate and accept a religion which doesn't tolerate or accept all people?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

Why must we? And is that all religions or just Islam?

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By *earboynottinghamMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

Yoi clearly know nothing of the religion you are talking about. "

If it makes you fell better to believe that then so be it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

and become fascists?

The face of fascism in 2015 is islam.

Can you expand on that - I'm not quite getting what you mean

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By *earboynottinghamMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

Why must we? And is that all religions or just Islam? "

All religion of course.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

Acceptance and tolerance is a two way street though, why would I tolerate and accept a religion which doesn't tolerate or accept all people? "

Who do they not tolerate? Or are you basing your knowledge of.islam om the extremists that are widely denounced by the wider Islamic communities?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

Yoi clearly know nothing of the religion you are talking about.

If it makes you fell better to believe that then so be it."

Its not a statement to make me feel anything, just how you come across.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

Acceptance and tolerance is a two way street though, why would I tolerate and accept a religion which doesn't tolerate or accept all people? "

But you don't accept or tolerate it. You've just said it should be discouraged.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

Why must we? And is that all religions or just Islam?

All religion of course.

Why?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK."

Yayyy! You get todays prize for the least educated post on Fab. Congratulations

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

Acceptance and tolerance is a two way street though, why would I tolerate and accept a religion which doesn't tolerate or accept all people? "

can you please please stop talking utter pish about a whole religion, and stop confusing it with fundamentalists.

I have no religion, I dont like many religious views...but I cant stand listening to shit talking misguided people....of any religion or non-religion.

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By *earboynottinghamMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

Acceptance and tolerance is a two way street though, why would I tolerate and accept a religion which doesn't tolerate or accept all people?

Who do they not tolerate? Or are you basing your knowledge of.islam om the extremists that are widely denounced by the wider Islamic communities?"

I thought you said I came across as though I knew nothing about islam?

That's what you're now doing, if you know anything about islam you'll know who they don't tolerate

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By *earboynottinghamMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

Acceptance and tolerance is a two way street though, why would I tolerate and accept a religion which doesn't tolerate or accept all people?

can you please please stop talking utter pish about a whole religion, and stop confusing it with fundamentalists.

I have no religion, I dont like many religious views...but I cant stand listening to shit talking misguided people....of any religion or non-religion."

Listen pal.

I can say you're talking shit just as easily as you can say it about me.

This is my opinion and no matter how many times you use the word 'pish' it will not change.

Interestingly I did actually think like you at one stage but that was naivety.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

Acceptance and tolerance is a two way street though, why would I tolerate and accept a religion which doesn't tolerate or accept all people?

Who do they not tolerate? Or are you basing your knowledge of.islam om the extremists that are widely denounced by the wider Islamic communities?

I thought you said I came across as though I knew nothing about islam?

That's what you're now doing, if you know anything about islam you'll know who they don't tolerate"

Haha thanks for proving my point! Can't answer the question so deflect your lack of knowledge on to me....brilliant!

I know many Muslims, work with a few and they are very tolerant, just get on with their lives and let others do the same. Same. As people I know if other faiths.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"why did they go to the match if they knew they needed to pray "
Ithink every fan at football have prayed for a late equalizer

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By *earboynottinghamMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from praying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

Acceptance and tolerance is a two way street though, why would I tolerate and accept a religion which doesn't tolerate or accept all people?

Who do they not tolerate? Or are you basing your knowledge of.islam om the extremists that are widely denounced by the wider Islamic communities?

I thought you said I came across as though I knew nothing about islam?

That's what you're now doing, if you know anything about islam you'll know who they don't tolerate

Haha thanks for proving my point! Can't answer the question so deflect your lack of knowledge on to me....brilliant!

I know many Muslims, work with a few and they are very tolerant, just get on with their lives and let others do the same. Same. As people I know if other faiths. "

Do they tolerate those who wish to convert to another religion?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is just a symptom of the gradual islamification ok the UK.

what utter pish

If you are so devoted to islam that you can't refrain from paying for 90 minutes or so then a football match is not a suitable place for you.

Alcohol, pork products and gambling everywhere.

so two people practicing their faith(in their faiths style,mean its islamification of britain?...

lets say you are clutching...at dangleberries

No.

Most people in the UK are thankfully moving away from religion whilst some are moving towards it, we must discourage religion being part of daily life.

Acceptance and tolerance is a two way street though, why would I tolerate and accept a religion which doesn't tolerate or accept all people?

Who do they not tolerate? Or are you basing your knowledge of.islam om the extremists that are widely denounced by the wider Islamic communities?

I thought you said I came across as though I knew nothing about islam?

That's what you're now doing, if you know anything about islam you'll know who they don't tolerate"

Who don't they tolerate? And as you have said you want all religion discouraged does that make you more or less tolerant than them?

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over a year ago

Juanfield