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What would happen to our country IF

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville

Labour

Conservatives (+UKIP for argument sake)

and

Plaid Cymru + SNP + Greens joined up?

The question is, how could government work with opposition being so available. No out right party would be able to pass any legislation through the house if it became a 3 party state like the above?

Especially with such diverse views on how the economy, defence, NHS (potential Barnet formula) and spending, it would mean legislation would be vetoed constantly? A possible recession due to a seeming 'lack of an economic plan' ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing would get done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing would change. You'd still have a load of self serving pricks blaming everybody else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Labour

Conservatives (+UKIP for argument sake)

and

Plaid Cymru + SNP + Greens joined up?

The question is, how could government work with opposition being so available. No out right party would be able to pass any legislation through the house if it became a 3 party state like the above?

Especially with such diverse views on how the economy, defence, NHS (potential Barnet formula) and spending, it would mean legislation would be vetoed constantly? A possible recession due to a seeming 'lack of an economic plan' ?"

Asked question and answered it yourself.

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville


"

Asked question and answered it yourself. "

I am no political genius, so why hasn't Dimbleby, Paxman, Andrew Neil, Marr, or other TV news person thrown this out as a national debate? A recession due to lack of a coherent government is a bit of a disaster!

Would we get to vote again?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nothing would change. You'd still have a load of self serving pricks blaming everybody else "

It will be the same whoever gets in. Why worry.

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville

I am only throwing this up as Plaid Cymru said they would join up with the SNP this morning and the greens if necessary but not Ukip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Asked question and answered it yourself.

I am no political genius, so why hasn't Dimbleby, Paxman, Andrew Neil, Marr, or other TV news person thrown this out as a national debate? A recession due to lack of a coherent government is a bit of a disaster!

Would we get to vote again? "

Not been asked as it's an unlikely scenario. Perhaps a look at a 'similar' experience in Belgium could help you gain an insight.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/26/belgian-government-collapses-leterme-resigns

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am only throwing this up as Plaid Cymru said they would join up with the SNP this morning and the greens if necessary but not Ukip"
They say that, but if ukip can get them in via a coalition, they'd change their tune. I can see a problem like this on the horizon. The big 3 have disillusioned so many, I know 3 people through online forums that say they're voting plaid. Doesn't seem a lot, but most people don't know one person who votes for a minority party

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville


"

Asked question and answered it yourself.

I am no political genius, so why hasn't Dimbleby, Paxman, Andrew Neil, Marr, or other TV news person thrown this out as a national debate? A recession due to lack of a coherent government is a bit of a disaster!

Would we get to vote again?

Not been asked as it's an unlikely scenario. Perhaps a look at a 'similar' experience in Belgium could help you gain an insight.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/26/belgian-government-collapses-leterme-resigns"

First I have read on that ... I don't know much about the strength of their economy either.. but 6 months after a 5 party system was introduced to it's collapse is no good.

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville


"I am only throwing this up as Plaid Cymru said they would join up with the SNP this morning and the greens if necessary but not UkipThey say that, but if ukip can get them in via a coalition, they'd change their tune. I can see a problem like this on the horizon. The big 3 have disillusioned so many, I know 3 people through online forums that say they're voting plaid. Doesn't seem a lot, but most people don't know one person who votes for a minority party"

we cant vote for Plaid Cymru + SNP and DUP unless we live in Wales, Scotland or Ireland I thought.

In either case ... I am more in fear of the turmoil a squabbling government will cause. At the moment they are squabbling over political point scoring. But once voted in, I dont like the prospect of veto powers that could destabilise the economy when we are at least out of recession. That would be nightareish, all because off political disillusion.

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By *igandanneCouple
over a year ago

Cheltenham

The airports would be busy with people leaving the country

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville

hahahahha!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

While they are all busy arguing, the civil service would run everything, as they always have.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Things can only get better"..

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"Nothing would get done"

Status Quo then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Government could work better as rather than a one party bias, all decisions would need to be considered and agreed. I think it's a mistake that parties are campaigning on the basis of winning a majority and being dismissive of making allegiances - after this election I expect that will change and we should start to see a move away from two party politics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We would become Italy

Democratic government at its finest!

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville

[Removed by poster at 07/04/15 22:50:15]

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's a fair point in so much as the bullshit upon which our democratic and economic system survives requires persuasive bullshit to thrive.

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville


"Government could work better as rather than a one party bias, all decisions would need to be considered and agreed. I think it's a mistake that parties are campaigning on the basis of winning a majority and being dismissive of making allegiances - after this election I expect that will change and we should start to see a move away from two party politics."

But in macro economics; where markets rule our AAA rating, our bankability or our credit rating. All we need is a little turbulence, wavering or an unknowing from other countries in not knowing where they stand if they are regain lent money - and our score depreciates... we dip into recession. I think that is how it works.. in a simple way at least?

Take us not releasing if we are going to spend this 2%GDP on defence in line with our NATO agreement - NATO is looking at us for the party line

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well it was a fair point - now it's gone )

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville


"That's a fair point in so much as the bullshit upon which our democratic and economic system survives requires persuasive bullshit to thrive."

corrected it as there was some crappy spelling sorry.

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville


"Well it was a fair point - now it's gone )"

and agree ... just mesmerized that the question of a 3 party government hasn't been explored very much - it is a likelihood after all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Them v Us makes for simplicity. I think politicians are scared that the alternative is too complex for voters and it probably is for many who have been brought up red or blue rather than having to consider actual policies.

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