FabSwingers.com forum: the leaders debate thread, ITV 8pm

By *abio OP Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

may as well start it now......

go over the rules....

each leader will get 1 minute each as an opening statement

4 general questions will be asked, each leader will get 1 minute to answer... followed by 18 minutes of "debate".... so 25 minutes on each topic....

each leader at the end will get 1 minute each as a closing statement.....

quirks.... natalie bennett gets to open the whole thing.... David cameron gets to close the debate...

from left to right on the screen you will see: Green, Lib Dem, Ukip, Labour, Plaid, SNP, Conservative...

ooooh... and only 1 commerical break at about 9pm ish...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm hoping for Miliband and Cameron to come out from behind their podiums to be encircled by all the other leaders shouting fight, fight, fight. It would perfectly sum up the level of debate we have had so far.

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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

so... opinions, discussions..... who do you think will do well, what are you interested in seeing, ect ect....

you to imagine 1 question will be on the ecomony, 1 on immigration, 1 on the NHS... i am thinking the 4th may be very very general.....

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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"I'm hoping for Miliband and Cameron to come out from behind their podiums to be encircled by all the other leaders shouting fight, fight, fight. It would perfectly sum up the level of debate we have had so far.

it is going to be interesting to see they all get a minute each on all the questions without interruptions.. but you can see the 18 minute debate portions just turning in bumfights...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope someone spreads millibands nose all over his face...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't wait to watch it. Got a bottle of rekorderlig strawberry and lime cider in the fridge and gonna order a Chinese!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will be unable to watch the debate as I am DJing this evening.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All those "leaders" in the same place at the same time may make a tempting target for somebody. I think I'll just watch the highlights.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Seems like Cameron and Miliband have the most to lose, and the smaller parties have the most to gain from this. Think it could turn into Cameron and Milibands worst nightmare. Will be interesting to see what happens.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think I will be changing my vote on what they say,

1 hour of "We will do this and change that" they will all break their pledges one way or the other anyway

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

As an undecided voter I will be watching this.

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Also, you can't beat a good mass debate...

(that joke will never get old

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm more interested in the questions than answers...

I hope there's some depth and not just a collection of inane soundbites.

Substance...please....for once!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think I will be changing my vote on what they say,

1 hour of "We will do this and change that" they will all break their pledges one way or the other anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would like Nick Clegg to explain how the electorate had any say in deciding the constituents of the last coalition. What a twat.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I am already thinking 'wonder who has the biggest cock'.........

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

"I am already thinking 'wonder who has the biggest cock'.........

Nick Clegg... Oh sorry, he is the biggest cock

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am already thinking 'wonder who has the biggest cock'.........

Easy, Nicola Sturgeon! Biggest balls as well.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I'm looking forward to them asking each other questions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm looking forward to them asking each other questions.

It is a shocking format, Cameron would have been much better off doing a head to head, he is in a 6 to 1 fight here and while doing a decent job is getting pummelled.

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

I'm sick of this it was all Labour's fault. Ok I get it, you've said it for the past 5 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Farage the most confident speaker, I think

Cameron not looking good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"may as well start it now......

go over the rules....

each leader will get 1 minute each as an opening statement

4 general questions will be asked, each leader will get 1 minute to answer... followed by 18 minutes of "debate".... so 25 minutes on each topic....

each leader at the end will get 1 minute each as a closing statement.....

quirks.... natalie bennett gets to open the whole thing.... David cameron gets to close the debate...

from left to right on the screen you will see: Green, Lib Dem, Ukip, Labour, Plaid, SNP, Conservative...

ooooh... and only 1 commerical break at about 9pm ish...

would be better if at the end someone dropped a bomb on those lying bastards a freed us all from their shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nhs Question, This should be interesting

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Seems like Cameron and Miliband have the most to lose, and the smaller parties have the most to gain from this. Think it could turn into Cameron and Milibands worst nightmare. Will be interesting to see what happens. "

agreed..

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

The women leading small parties are being confident and challenging.

Cameron's line that they will save £1 in every £100 spent can't be used for every answer!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Good shocked faces from Clegg and Miliband on the Cameron answer on the NHS!

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By *uyfromchiMan
over a year ago

CHICHESTER

farage is great as ever !!

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By *essiCouple
over a year ago

suffolk

See who blinks the least.....they tell it as it is no faffing about

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"I'm looking forward to them asking each other questions.

It is a shocking format, Cameron would have been much better off doing a head to head, he is in a 6 to 1 fight here and while doing a decent job is getting pummelled."

You what? Cameron would be slaughtered in a head to head with any one of the others in this debate and he knows it, he's chosen the path of least possible damage here.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"farage is great as ever !!"

Great isn't the word that came mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good shocked faces from Clegg and Miliband on the Cameron answer on the NHS!

I just turned it in... What did they say..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The women leading small parties are being confident and challenging.

Cameron's line that they will save £1 in every £100 spent can't be used for every answer!

Have to agree.. The women are looking confident and have well researched.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not a political follower myself,just wondering why the uks fourth largest political party aren't represented?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wish miliband was allowed to answer the question Leanne asked him about the money for Wales!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He def looked uncomfortable at that question!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Good shocked faces from Clegg and Miliband on the Cameron answer on the NHS!

I just turned it in... What did they say..?

He blamed Miliband and Clegg for difficulties in the NHS. (That is a huge truncation of his response.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"farage is great as ever !!"

is 'great' some sort of code for talking cobblers..?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Not a political follower myself,just wondering why the uks fourth largest political party aren't represented?"

It's a good question. I have said on these threads that it will be the other Nigel (DUP) as kingmaker.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I found Cameron's answers to millibands assertion that the NHS is worse/less efficient under the Tories as particularly lame.

He claims to have put more doctors into the system, taken bureaucrats out ...but fails to quantitatively address the issue raised by Ed regarding waiting times and efficiency.

I kinda felt sorry for David at the end....

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Out of all of them Cameron looks the least comfortable in the format..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nothing new there then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your women from Wales would get it. That accent goes nicely with my cuppa and biscuit. If I was Welsh she would have my vote

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By *illyrocCouple
over a year ago

north west

Cameron is out of his comfort zone very poor PR for the Tories

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Out of all of them Cameron looks the least comfortable in the format.."

I agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Natalie Green Cobbber scares the shit out of me. Reverse all the cuts, borrow zillions more n spend, spend, spend ....more of the same that got us into the shit in first place!

She (hopefully) shot herself in foot!

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

This is winding me up, can the leaders look at the person asking the question or each other instead of down the camera.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"farage is great as ever !!

Great isn't the word that came mind.

He looks like Boycey in Only Fools and Horses minus the moustache. As Del Boy would say, what a plonker.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"farage is great as ever !!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Farage the most confident speaker, I think

Cameron not looking good "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is winding me up, can the leaders look at the person asking the question or each other instead of down the camera. "

I think Clegg is the only one that has done that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is winding me up, can the leaders look at the person asking the question or each other instead of down the camera.

I think Clegg is the only one that has done that "

Are you actually watching! Miliband is staring at me like a demented weasel on acid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

most of the papers are tory so they will all be saying how great camaron is even if he's made to look a complete twat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is winding me up, can the leaders look at the person asking the question or each other instead of down the camera.

I think Clegg is the only one that has done that "

They lady from the greens may have heard you...

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

The teenager watching with me has just said that the men all appear too comfortable, like they don't have to try. The women are coming across as competent, researched and strong enough to challenge them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is winding me up, can the leaders look at the person asking the question or each other instead of down the camera.

I think Clegg is the only one that has done that

Are you actually watching! Miliband is staring at me like a demented weasel on acid

Lol...I meant Clegg wasn't looking at the camera...until it was time to deliver the sound bite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What's Polish for "vote liberal"?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Right I'm 7 minutes behind but they've just asked the question about immigration and Ed has said people coming here will not be entitled to benefits for 2 years, it's what people may want to hear but what will these people do for money if they can't get a job straight away? They'll commit crime that's what. Asylum allowance was something ridiculously small when I worked in the job centre back in '11 it was about 30 quid a week, no where near enough to live on. If they let immigrants in with no access to public funds for 2 years then it's gonna be a dangerous place to live I reckon.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Right I'm 7 minutes behind but they've just asked the question about immigration and Ed has said people coming here will not be entitled to benefits for 2 years, it's what people may want to hear but what will these people do for money if they can't get a job straight away? They'll commit crime that's what. Asylum allowance was something ridiculously small when I worked in the job centre back in '11 it was about 30 quid a week, no where near enough to live on. If they let immigrants in with no access to public funds for 2 years then it's gonna be a dangerous place to live I reckon. "

It's what Cameron says on the benefits too.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

The wage compression argument is being placed at the door of the migrants and not the companies!

Why aren't they covering the fact that we pay more benefits to people in work because employment does not pay?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"The teenager watching with me has just said that the men all appear too comfortable, like they don't have to try. The women are coming across as competent, researched and strong enough to challenge them.

Especially Nicola Sturgeon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im sorry but what a bunch off toff wankers lol. There all just cockends simple as!

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Especially Nicola Sturgeon"

I'd vote for SNP, but they don't have a candidate in Yorkshire.

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington

Why do all there eyes look weird? Mandatory work place drug test.

and while im on my soap box, where does an aussie get the stones to run for uk pm?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sturgeon is a strong debater

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Especially Nicola Sturgeon"

If I could I think I would vote for her. She is coming across much better than she did on the Yes/No debates.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sturgeon is a strong debater "

She was very impressive

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Miliband's best line so far: they are both blaming each other and they are both right.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Will be very interesting to see the poll of polls in Scotland tomorrow

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

I like watching the Clegg/Cameron argument, it's like watching a couple going through a divorce.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im sorry but what a bunch off toff wankers lol. There all just cockends simple as!

Leanne Wood is definitely not a toff, she's from the Rhondda which is rough as fuck!

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By *ayercakeMan
over a year ago

Gateshead

They will do the same as all those people who get sanctioned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im sorry but what a bunch off toff wankers lol. There all just cockends simple as!

Leanne Wood is definitely not a toff, she's from the Rhondda which is rough as fuck!"

I always like watching her on TV she always comes across very well as have all the ladies tonight

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I like watching the Clegg/Cameron argument, it's like watching a couple going through a divorce. "

an acrimonious one..

but if the Liberals manage to hold onto enough seats to go back int coalition with the Tories they will be like 2 star crossed newylweds..

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Audience member rebelling against the format! Great.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I like watching the Clegg/Cameron argument, it's like watching a couple going through a divorce.

an acrimonious one..

but if the Liberals manage to hold onto enough seats to go back int coalition with the Tories they will be like 2 star crossed newylweds.."

More rose garden moments?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A heckler, brilliant, I'm with her "there are more of us than them"!

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

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"I like watching the Clegg/Cameron argument, it's like watching a couple going through a divorce.

an acrimonious one..

but if the Liberals manage to hold onto enough seats to go back int coalition with the Tories they will be like 2 star crossed newylweds.."

If current poll % ages are to be taken at face value Lib Dems will be glad of not operating with the proportional representation system. Currently sitting at 8% they are trailing badly in 4th place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A heckler, brilliant, I'm with her "there are more of us than them"!

Revolt..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well only thing I learned from that 2 hours is that Scotland is in VERY safe hands!!!

Doesnt wanna defect does she?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Brilliant! Farage almost nodding in agreement with Nicola Sturgeon closing statement

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Farage has got balls on him that's for sure. He's growing on this swing voter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They will do the same as all those people who get sanctioned."

Yeah difference is sanctions can be appealed or they're often only weeks with the exception of 6 month sanctions, but the claimants who get sanctions are those who don't turn up to sign on or haven't provided enough evidence to show they're looking for work. They also will often have a partner or family that could sort them out with food/money.

It would be a dangerous place if there were people coming here in the tens of thousands and weren't able to claim benefits. They would steal from shops to survive and worse rob people in the street. There's countries that already have no access to public funds, countries like Thailand, Libya, Syria, Iran to name a few. There's a lot of Iranians in the prison where I work that are there for repeat offences of stealing, muggings, burglary. Can only imagine what it would be like if nobody could claim for two years as soon as they get here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest after watching this I would not vote for any off them xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im sorry but what a bunch off toff wankers lol. There all just cockends simple as!

Leanne Wood is definitely not a toff, she's from the Rhondda which is rough as fuck!"

Well sorry about that then ha I just now them 2 puddings Cameron and miliband are a pair of fruit cakes ha. Never even heard of that wood ha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be honest after watching this I would not vote for any off them xxxx"

Not sure where that would leave us though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Milliband straight into grinning at the front row, smarmy twat! I'd love to kick him in the nuts. Loving the Welsh accent though, nice frock too but it'd need taking up...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A heckler, brilliant, I'm with her "there are more of us than them"!

Revolt..? "

Too right, Power to the People!

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

After watching this, I would vote for Nicola Sturgeon.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Milliband straight into grinning at the front row, smarmy twat! I'd love to kick him in the nuts. Loving the Welsh accent though, nice frock too but it'd need taking up..."

specially about the red dress

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd vote for Nicola if I could, I might even have voted for the Green Party going on tonights performance - the only problem I have is that I have Farage going for the seat I'll be voting in (deep feckin joy). Not a chance I'll risk "wasting" a vote and seeing him get in so now its down to the two main parties yet again. God help us down here.

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By *he_tykiesCouple
over a year ago

West Yorkshire.

Nothing I've heard tonight had inspired me, too much negativity, not enough substance for me on how we go forward positively for the next 5 yrs.

Then the immediate reaction from Yvette Cooper, in her inter_iew on BBC2, drooling and almost licking Millipead's crotch, hell looking and listening to that woman just makes me want to puke!.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ed totally destrouyed Cameroon, common ed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Give Farage some grace, poor bugger only had a glass of water!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well only thing I learned from that 2 hours is that Scotland is in VERY safe hands!!!

Doesnt wanna defect does she?

That's exactly what I was thinking - & I have to say that I do like some of her politics, after all, many of the pet hates of the 'yes' SNP are actually shared by the rest of 'union', - the Jurassic state of Westminster for one!

I thought she stole the show, & it's just a shame that she can only be a minority coalition member at best.

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By *rank_SimoneCouple
over a year ago

Bideford

Well not very inspiring was it, Greens don't have a scooby, UKIP are the new BNP, SNP & Plaid Cymru are good for Wales and Scotland only, nothing wrong with that as they look after themselves.

We then have the Libs who have be blamed for the last 5 years although they only held the balance not the majority, so will loose all their seats, but will still get our vote. Then you have Labour who have a wallace and gommet character as their leader, and you can never believe any one that talks out the side of their mouths. Then you have the Tories, who as the party in power will always be loathed.

So good luck people on making your minds up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

SNP want to get rid of trident that's the thing that I don't like about them.

Did you hear that woman in the audience getting thrown out? I turne the volume right up to hear what she was saying and she piped up again then heard footsteps and a scuffle sound then a door opening and slamming!

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Why are people talking about Scottish and Welsh parties,they had no right in this debate,it is a national British election,not a debate for local issues

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By *ongton loversCouple
over a year ago

stokeontrent

"After watching this, I would vote for Nicola Sturgeon. "

So would I to give the rest of us indepence away from them bloody jocks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why are people talking about Scottish and Welsh parties,they had no right in this debate,it is a national British election,not a debate for local issues"

What the fuck are you on about they had no right to be there? Yes it's a british election what countries make up Britain then?

Wales and Scotland are entitled to vote, both countries pay their taxes which all go in the same pot but we then have to be told by Westminster how much money we're allowed to have. Wales gets less money than anyone else yet still managed to juggle things round to have free prescriptions long before Scotland did. Of course Scotland and Wales want the best for their countries, all the decisions are made in Westminster we need to make sure there's people there that have our best interests at heart as well.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Why are people talking about Scottish and Welsh parties,they had no right in this debate,it is a national British election,not a debate for local issues"

Are they not part of the nation?

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

Clegg came across very plausible again as he did in 2010.

Frarage lost ground in my opinion, far too focused on bloody foreigners

Milliband looks and acts like the buffoon that he is.

SNP, Greens and Welsh Bint have no concept of the dangers of overspending.

As I predicted in another thread, the future will be five more years of Cameron and Clegg. He cock and his condom.

Not good sex, just safe sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is winding me up, can the leaders look at the person asking the question or each other instead of down the camera. "

I found that very weird to......

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Clegg came across very plausible again as he did in 2010.

Frarage lost ground in my opinion, far too focused on bloody foreigners

Milliband looks and acts like the buffoon that he is.

SNP, Greens and Welsh Bint have no concept of the dangers of overspending.

As I predicted in another thread, the future will be five more years of Cameron and Clegg. He cock and his condom.

Not good sex, just safe sex

Where you _iewing it from bizarro world?

Cameron was slaughtered. He wisely avoided speaking up, because he knew he couldn't even compete with Nicola Bennett in terms of plausibility.

I'd advise you not to put any serious money on the election, because you're guaranteed to be losing it when a Labour coalition is in number ten.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Clegg came across very plausible again as he did in 2010.

Frarage lost ground in my opinion, far too focused on bloody foreigners

Milliband looks and acts like the buffoon that he is.

SNP, Greens and Welsh Bint have no concept of the dangers of overspending.

As I predicted in another thread, the future will be five more years of Cameron and Clegg. He cock and his condom.

Not good sex, just safe sex

A plausible outcome, but Lib Dems need to secure about 40 seats and that looks to be a big challenge. They are philosophically closer to Labour so I can see a Lab/Libdem/Snp alliance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why are people talking about Scottish and Welsh parties,they had no right in this debate,it is a national British election,not a debate for local issues

Are they not part of the nation?

Lol theres alway one

So education and the Nhs are local issues now very good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

clegg will not have enough seats to form another government they will get slaughtered at the polls

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By *mma_j_cdTV/TS
over a year ago

chester

The whole point is they should be able to support themselves for a period of time and not just come in and get benefits straight away exactly as we Brits would have to do going elsewhere

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Clegg came across very plausible again as he did in 2010.

Frarage lost ground in my opinion, far too focused on bloody foreigners

Milliband looks and acts like the buffoon that he is.

SNP, Greens and Welsh Bint have no concept of the dangers of overspending.

As I predicted in another thread, the future will be five more years of Cameron and Clegg. He cock and his condom.

Not good sex, just safe sex

A plausible outcome, but Lib Dems need to secure about 40 seats and that looks to be a big challenge. They are philosophically closer to Labour so I can see a Lab/Libdem/Snp alliance."

LibDems are not philosophically closer to Labour, and never have been. The Tories are their natural alliance.

But that goes out of the window if there is a sniff of a chance of power, so it's really irrelevant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *r and mrs willingCouple
over a year ago

SOUTH WEST & WALES

"The wage compression argument is being placed at the door of the migrants and not the companies!

Why aren't they covering the fact that we pay more benefits to people in work because employment does not pay?

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Why are people talking about Scottish and Welsh parties,they had no right in this debate,it is a national British election,not a debate for local issues

Are they not part of the nation?

Lol theres alway one

So education and the Nhs are local issues now very good"

We have devolved issues but overall budget and spend affects what happens in each of the nations and regions.

Since this election is likely to lead to another coalition of some sort I am glad to have had the chance to see some of the other parties. I think the DUP should have been there too.

Yes, I am always the one and very proud to be that one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Clegg came across very plausible again as he did in 2010.

Frarage lost ground in my opinion, far too focused on bloody foreigners

Milliband looks and acts like the buffoon that he is.

SNP, Greens and Welsh Bint have no concept of the dangers of overspending.

As I predicted in another thread, the future will be five more years of Cameron and Clegg. He cock and his condom.

Not good sex, just safe sex

A plausible outcome, but Lib Dems need to secure about 40 seats and that looks to be a big challenge. They are philosophically closer to Labour so I can see a Lab/Libdem/Snp alliance.

LibDems are not philosophically closer to Labour, and never have been. The Tories are their natural alliance.

But that goes out of the window if there is a sniff of a chance of power, so it's really irrelevant."

I agree that that will bend which ever way they need to to secure a share of power. But the Lib Dems since its formation has been a slightly left of centre party.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I'm going to miss QT so I trust you all to keep things ticking until I get a chance to catch up in the wee hours.

Have fun.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Think the only honest MP on the stage was the plyd cymry (welsh woman)

2nd for me was Clegg

I found found his rebuke to Miliband when he to put him on the spot about failing in government hilarious.

"Say sorry to the UK for Labour bankrupting us Mr Miliband - I have apologies for my failings".

Milibands retort to any and all pressured questioning was "but, but, but, but, but"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Clegg came across very plausible again as he did in 2010.

Frarage lost ground in my opinion, far too focused on bloody foreigners

Milliband looks and acts like the buffoon that he is.

SNP, Greens and Welsh Bint have no concept of the dangers of overspending.

As I predicted in another thread, the future will be five more years of Cameron and Clegg. He cock and his condom.

Not good sex, just safe sex

More like scat sex! This coalition should have been aborted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm going to miss QT so I trust you all to keep things ticking until I get a chance to catch up in the wee hours.

Have fun."

Sadly you have missed one of the best questions/comments from a QT audience member I have seen in years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

strongly dislike most of them. All they want to do is take money away from people who've worked hard to get into a position to earn it and give it to those who are lazy

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over a year ago

"I'm going to miss QT so I trust you all to keep things ticking until I get a chance to catch up in the wee hours.

Have fun.

Sadly you have missed one of the best questions/comments from a QT audience member I have seen in years."

What was it..??

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over a year ago

"strongly dislike most of them. All they want to do is take money away from people who've worked hard to get into a position to earn it and give it to those who are lazy

Worked hard to get in to a position to earn it?

Therein lies the problem, - you've summed up the 'great' British class system perfectly!!

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over a year ago

"strongly dislike most of them. All they want to do is take money away from people who've worked hard to get into a position to earn it and give it to those who are lazy

Worked hard to get in to a position to earn it?

Therein lies the problem, - you've summed up the 'great' British class system perfectly!!

And has assumed that all less better off are lazy ......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"strongly dislike most of them. All they want to do is take money away from people who've worked hard to get into a position to earn it and give it to those who are lazy

I didn't see Robin Hood on the panel anywhere? I'm guessing by lazy you meant poor.

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over a year ago

"I'm going to miss QT so I trust you all to keep things ticking until I get a chance to catch up in the wee hours.

Have fun.

Sadly you have missed one of the best questions/comments from a QT audience member I have seen in years.

What was it..??"

The individual was an articulate black member of the public who asked why is it politicians fail to speak to the electorate honestly, unlike Farage!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why are people talking about Scottish and Welsh parties,they had no right in this debate,it is a national British election,not a debate for local issues"

Haha what? The SNP are the 3rd biggest party in the UK. Why on earth wouldn't they be involved?

We have just had a year or two of "Don't go, stay, we are a union of equals." And from you its "but don't you dare get involved in any of our important busines."

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Garage is no more authentic than the rest and I found he came across as disturbed/disturbing tonight. And a little like a spoiled, precocious little child. A caricature, an act and muddled puppet.

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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

who do i think did well...... all the women... nicola is a really good debater, natalie looked way more comfortable, and was impressed with leanne

i think if the snp and pc suggested to english voters to vote green... and there you could have a progressive left block... that would be interesting....

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The format should have been a mass debate.

Then see who is pally with whom.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Garage is no more authentic than the rest and I found he came across as disturbed/disturbing tonight. And a little like a spoiled, precocious little child. A caricature, an act and muddled puppet. "

good job he hadn't had a drink before it started..

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"I'm going to miss QT so I trust you all to keep things ticking until I get a chance to catch up in the wee hours.

Have fun.

Sadly you have missed one of the best questions/comments from a QT audience member I have seen in years.

What was it..??

The individual was an articulate black member of the public who asked why is it politicians fail to speak to the electorate honestly, unlike Farage!!"

That guy may have been articulate, but he was also an idiot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Farage is a bit of a one trick pony (no Cockney slang pun) but I did notice the blue tinged tie; ukippers are far right Tories after all, & anyone who thinks that they will side with any other party than the Conservatives are fatally mistaken!

I'd definitely vote SNP if I could; Nicola Sturgeon stole the show IMHO.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Farage is a bit of a one trick pony (no Cockney slang pun) but I did notice the blue tinged tie; ukippers are far right Tories after all, & anyone who thinks that they will side with any other party than the Conservatives are fatally mistaken!

I'd definitely vote SNP if I could; Nicola Sturgeon stole the show IMHO."

Ms Sturgeon is another one trick pony.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd definitely vote SNP if I could; Nicola Sturgeon stole the show IMHO.

Ms Sturgeon is another one trick pony."

She debated well but how effective are the SNP in Scotland....?

I've no idea but a debate, whilst moderately entertaining, does very little to highlight the truth of a party or their plans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd definitely vote SNP if I could; Nicola Sturgeon stole the show IMHO.

Ms Sturgeon is another one trick pony."

Not from what from I've been hearing from her lately!

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over a year ago

"strongly dislike most of them. All they want to do is take money away from people who've worked hard to get into a position to earn it and give it to those who are lazy

I didn't see Robin Hood on the panel anywhere? I'm guessing by lazy you meant poor. "

All i heard on the economy from most was tax this, spend on that. As someone who travels throughout the world, i've seen the levels of taxes in the UK are outrageous. Taxes on earnings, Taxes on products are all Too high! How can government consider it ethical to tax 40% on earnings above £40000 - which is probably at least the case for 60% of all working households.. How can the government consider it acceptable to charge 69% of the pump price in petrol in various taxes? Seems a stupid way to run a country in my opinion

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

It's what Cameron says on the benefits too.

No Cameron said if people come here and don't get a job within 6 months then they will have to leave.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

I'd definitely vote SNP if I could; Nicola Sturgeon stole the show IMHO."

Only because the SNP have a permanent enemy on whom everything can be blamed. This common enemy enables the SNP to rally the troops around a focused common thread.

Given an independent Scotland and the need to stand on their own two feet I think the SNP performance would be very different.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"strongly dislike most of them. All they want to do is take money away from people who've worked hard to get into a position to earn it and give it to those who are lazy

I didn't see Robin Hood on the panel anywhere? I'm guessing by lazy you meant poor.

You are quite right. The whole message was not about the general public being told about fiscal responsibility but about different parties bribing the electorate with what they are going to give them. Where is the message about tough love, hard work and personal responsibility?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought Cameron looked a tad nervous and shifty.funny how he wanted these debates last time and now he is avoiding any more. Not so easy when you have a record of broken promises to defend.

Nicola Sturgeon was excellent calm and measured. Leanne Wood was so out of her depth !

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over a year ago

What grated on me was Cameron and Milliband ( particularly Milliband ) chatting into the camera begging for votes instead of addressing the question they had been asked !

Also Millibands constant pinched fingers is a huge sign of a liar, peopel who talk with open hands and showing palms are honest, he isnt !! And he came across as cheesy , slimey and a liar to me.

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"What grated on me was Cameron and Milliband ( particularly Milliband ) chatting into the camera begging for votes instead of addressing the question they had been asked !

Also Millibands constant pinched fingers is a huge sign of a liar, peopel who talk with open hands and showing palms are honest, he isnt !! And he came across as cheesy , slimey and a liar to me. "

Agreed 100% about the body language. It has surprised me that they have not had a body language expert on the news talking about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"farage is great as ever !!"

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

Am I alone in thinking Nige would walk the world gurning title.

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

"What grated on me was Cameron and Milliband ( particularly Milliband ) chatting into the camera begging for votes instead of addressing the question they had been asked !

Also Millibands constant pinched fingers is a huge sign of a liar, peopel who talk with open hands and showing palms are honest, he isnt !! And he came across as cheesy , slimey and a liar to me.

Agreed 100% about the body language. It has surprised me that they have not had a body language expert on the news talking about it."

Daily Mail did

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over a year ago

"What grated on me was Cameron and Milliband ( particularly Milliband ) chatting into the camera begging for votes instead of addressing the question they had been asked !

Also Millibands constant pinched fingers is a huge sign of a liar, peopel who talk with open hands and showing palms are honest, he isnt !! And he came across as cheesy , slimey and a liar to me.

Agreed 100% about the body language. It has surprised me that they have not had a body language expert on the news talking about it."

As much as i hate to say it, Farage was the only one with open palms !

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over a year ago

"What grated on me was Cameron and Milliband ( particularly Milliband ) chatting into the camera begging for votes instead of addressing the question they had been asked !

Also Millibands constant pinched fingers is a huge sign of a liar, peopel who talk with open hands and showing palms are honest, he isnt !! And he came across as cheesy , slimey and a liar to me.

Agreed 100% about the body language. It has surprised me that they have not had a body language expert on the news talking about it.

As much as i hate to say it, Farage was the only one with open palms !

With the media training that all of them have undoubtedly had...and the rehearsed sound bites... Im not sure how accurate a body language assessment would be.

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over a year ago

Hoe can they preach that when all of the parties are planning on continuing the spending of money we don't have...hence the debt growing and growing.

They are devoid of all other ideas.

If the leaders can't be responsible...much of the electorate won't either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's what Cameron says on the benefits too.

No Cameron said if people come here and don't get a job within 6 months then they will have to leave. "

I would have no confidence in their ability to send people back. Already 100's of people apply for asylum and it gets turned down, these people then just disappear, not deported just off the radar and still here.

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By *landAnnCouple
over a year ago

Inverness

"Why are people talking about Scottish and Welsh parties,they had no right in this debate,it is a national British election,not a debate for local issues"

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It's a UK election actually. Believe it or not, Britain and the UK is not the same thing..!

Scotland and Wales are nations within the UK.

The SNP and Plaid Cymru had every right to be there.

It's only a few months since Westminster politicians were pleading with Scotland not to leave the UK... please don't leave.. please stay.. we'll give you this, and this, and this... all lies by the way....

So after the Westminster parties 'persuading' Scotland not to leave the UK you cannot seriously be suggesting that the biggest party in Scotland has no right to take part in UK-wide debate.... ??

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over a year ago

"Why are people talking about Scottish and Welsh parties,they had no right in this debate,it is a national British election,not a debate for local issues

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It's a UK election actually. Believe it or not, Britain and the UK is not the same thing..!

Scotland and Wales are nations within the UK.

The SNP and Plaid Cymru had every right to be there.

So after the Westminster parties 'persuading' Scotland not to leave the UK you cannot seriously be suggesting that the biggest party in Scotland has no right to take part in UK-wide debate.... ??

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Great advert on Sky 'I'll be there'

word synced all the leaders to the song

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watch this.... Cassette boy has it nailed !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbLGG5UGEKw

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I thought Cameron looked a tad nervous and shifty.funny how he wanted these debates last time and now he is avoiding any more. Not so easy when you have a record of broken promises to defend.

Nicola Sturgeon was excellent calm and measured. Leanne Wood was so out of her depth ! "

Agree on Cameron, he looked very uncomfortable at times and as for Osborne's claim later that Cameron was statesmanlike and controlled the debate is cloud cuckoo lans stuff..

Miliband didn't convince though he did look quite ok with the format..

but in the next one without Clegg and Cameron he will be the obvious target for the smaller parties..

Natalie Bennett? looked like someone with a couple of good ideas albeit with some others which most folks will look at as daft and not relevant..

wont watch any more of them personally..

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

I'd definitely vote SNP if I could; Nicola Sturgeon stole the show IMHO.

Ms Sturgeon is another one trick pony.

She debated well but how effective are the SNP in Scotland....?

As effective as they can be when they can't set their own tax or immigration policies.

All any Scottish Government can do realistically is to distribute the money given to it by Westminster.

Scotland will soon face a dangerous situation economically by 2030 and that's why the push for independence was so great, because the longer they're not independent the harder it will be to deal with.

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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

I'd definitely vote SNP if I could; Nicola Sturgeon stole the show IMHO.

Ms Sturgeon is another one trick pony.

She debated well but how effective are the SNP in Scotland....?

As effective as they can be when they can't set their own tax or immigration policies.

All any Scottish Government can do realistically is to distribute the money given to it by Westminster.

technically not quite true... they actually have the power to raise/drop income tax if they want by up to 3p in either direction.. it is there... if they want to use it

they drop it, it comes out of their pot (like free prescriptions and university fee's).... raise it and the temptation is going to be for business's and people to move south.....

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over a year ago

manchester & NI

technically not quite true... they actually have the power to raise/drop income tax if they want by up to 3p in either direction.. it is there... if they want to use it

they drop it, it comes out of their pot (like free prescriptions and university fee's).... raise it and the temptation is going to be for business's and people to move south.....

3p? That's a miniscule income tax rate change - not setting your own tax policy.

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

"Why are people talking about Scottish and Welsh parties,they had no right in this debate,it is a national British election,not a debate for local issues

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It's a UK election actually. Believe it or not, Britain and the UK is not the same thing..!

Scotland and Wales are nations within the UK.

The SNP and Plaid Cymru had every right to be there.

So after the Westminster parties 'persuading' Scotland not to leave the UK you cannot seriously be suggesting that the biggest party in Scotland has no right to take part in UK-wide debate.... ??

Every rich to be in the debate. However..

..the problem comes if they attempt to form a coalition govt at Westminster. Ms Sturgeon has stated that the SNP would want to play a full part in governing the UK, including health, education etc. Should it happen that an SNP minister had responsibility for creating policy that affects English voters whilst not affecting their own electorate then a problem arises. The English voter had no opportunity to vote for the SNP minister and cannot get rid of them. That would be anti-democratic.

If the SNP are to hold ministries/sit on committees etc then they must only be allowed to do so on powers reserved for the UK and not devolved to Scotland and Wales.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"What grated on me was Cameron and Milliband ( particularly Milliband ) chatting into the camera begging for votes instead of addressing the question they had been asked !

Also Millibands constant pinched fingers is a huge sign of a liar, peopel who talk with open hands and showing palms are honest, he isnt !! And he came across as cheesy , slimey and a liar to me.

Agreed 100% about the body language. It has surprised me that they have not had a body language expert on the news talking about it.

As much as i hate to say it, Farage was the only one with open palms !

Thats because he was the only one speaking the truth, particularly about the EU and immigration, although Leanne Wood also admitted we can't control immigration while we are in the EU.

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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

technically not quite true... they actually have the power to raise/drop income tax if they want by up to 3p in either direction.. it is there... if they want to use it

they drop it, it comes out of their pot (like free prescriptions and university fee's).... raise it and the temptation is going to be for business's and people to move south.....

3p? That's a miniscule income tax rate change - not setting your own tax policy. "

erm... you do know that income tax is 20p... so 3p either way is +/- 15% either way.... they could go up to 23p if they wanted to... they could go down to 17p if they wanted to

that is huge is regards to tax.......

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over a year ago

"What grated on me was Cameron and Milliband ( particularly Milliband ) chatting into the camera begging for votes instead of addressing the question they had been asked !

Also Millibands constant pinched fingers is a huge sign of a liar, peopel who talk with open hands and showing palms are honest, he isnt !! And he came across as cheesy , slimey and a liar to me.

Agreed 100% about the body language. It has surprised me that they have not had a body language expert on the news talking about it.

As much as i hate to say it, Farage was the only one with open palms !

Thats because he was the only one speaking the truth, particularly about the EU and immigration, although Leanne Wood also admitted we can't control immigration while we are in the EU. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the whole concept of these debates undermines the idea of voting for a party/manifesto and replaces it with voting for personality.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

still voting Conservative

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By *carineMan
over a year ago

Armthorpe, Doncaster

I`m suprised Farage didn`t accuse Cameron of nicking his podium spot on the far right...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Leaders?????

They couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery between them.

Point scoring idiots who don't list to no one

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham

I found it a difficult wank at best

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Am I alone in thinking Nige would walk the world gurning title."

He looked like a toad being swallowed by his own neck, and enjoying it.

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over a year ago

Pardon me if someone has already made this point but if 7 million people watched it,then by my reckoning over 50 milion did not.

Effectively only 12% of the population had any interest in it.

Why does a minority interest topic get so much coverage?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Pardon me if someone has already made this point but if 7 million people watched it,then by my reckoning over 50 milion did not.

Effectively only 12% of the population had any interest in it.

Why does a minority interest topic get so much coverage?"

Of the 50 million some are children and not eligible to vote.

You are sadly right that the governance of our country is a minority interest topic based on recent voter turn out. However, TOWIE gets loads of coverage and I think that's about the same sort of _iewing figures.

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over a year ago

"What grated on me was Cameron and Milliband ( particularly Milliband ) chatting into the camera begging for votes instead of addressing the question they had been asked !

Also Millibands constant pinched fingers is a huge sign of a liar, peopel who talk with open hands and showing palms are honest, he isnt !! And he came across as cheesy , slimey and a liar to me.

Agreed 100% about the body language. It has surprised me that they have not had a body language expert on the news talking about it.

As much as i hate to say it, Farage was the only one with open palms !

Thats because he was the only one speaking the truth, particularly about the EU and immigration, although Leanne Wood also admitted we can't control immigration while we are in the EU. "

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