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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Wish they would take a leaf out of the endland rugby union squad. It's an honour to play for your country should be singing there hearts out to the national anthem! !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Totally agree there playing for their country be proud

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe they would if the national anthem was more uplifting instead of the dreadful dirge it is !

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Maybe they would if the national anthem was more uplifting instead of the dreadful dirge it is !"

Wow please don't go there

Love our national anthem! Fills me with pride and passion

Iv been known to use it to get me in the mood

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe they would if the national anthem was more uplifting instead of the dreadful dirge it is !

Wow please don't go there

Love our national anthem! Fills me with pride and passion

Iv been known to use it to get me in the mood "

I am filled with pride and passion for my country and national football team but not the national anthem, never have been but then im not a royalist so i would prefer a anthem that leaves out the queeen bit but fills me with pride for my country (England)

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By *0hnnyBrav0Man
over a year ago

Great Wyrley

Saw it on and switched it over to snore wizard on ideal tv.

England not worth the eyeball effort.........

Now the presenter on ideal tv..................

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I agree. I put myself through it every game

Always think why do I watch this shite

But non the less I do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree. I put myself through it every game

Always think why do I watch this shite

But non the less I do "
yer hardly into it are ya thread started on here 30 minutes into game.national anthem is shite no passion , look at the Jocks singing flower of Scotland while we pander on to some family of German decendency

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe we could implement the Haka into the national anthem somehow? The pre workout should do some good.

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff

"God save the queen"

Lol,what a shite anthem...it has to be one of the least inspiring on planet earth.

Back on point though..I know some players find it too emotional to sing the anthem.

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By *lashheartMan
over a year ago

shrewsbury

Can anyone name a good anthem?

I like to see them sing it too though and there's plenty of other things they could learn from the rugby lads. Respect for the ref top of the list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good anthem : the cricket commentators seemed agreed that the Sri Lanka one is very good.

Different sport but same principle, but which anthem will our latest "British" top 100 tennis player sing?

Hint, he represented his country of Slovakia last year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Good anthem : the cricket commentators seemed agreed that the Sri Lanka one is very good.

Different sport but same principle, but which anthem will our latest "British" top 100 tennis player sing?

Hint, he represented his country of Slovakia last year. "
Jerusalem should be the chosen song for Englands anthem , The jocks and Welsh seem to choose their own and we get stuck with the union shite which is god save the queen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can you imagine the scope for fun that football supporters will have with the anthem when Charles takes over.

God save the (fuc) King .....

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff


"

Good anthem : the cricket commentators seemed agreed that the Sri Lanka one is very good.

Different sport but same principle, but which anthem will our latest "British" top 100 tennis player sing?

Hint, he represented his country of Slovakia last year. Jerusalem should be the chosen song for Englands anthem , The jocks and Welsh seem to choose their own and we get stuck with the union shite which is god save the queen "

See, we used to see it the other way - "how arrogant of the English to use the the anthem that's meant to represent the whole of the UK.".

Not saying it's right - I certainly don't feel that way anymore! There was definitely that feeling around though. Funny how people's perceptions are different depending on where they are from, I guess.

It'd be nice for England if they adopted their own anthem. All constituent parts of the UK would be on an even footing then. Hell, I'd sing along to Jerusalem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah well , at least we beat the footballing superpower aka Lithuania.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just wish they were better, but that won't happen until they get our lazy Xbox obsessed, wigging youth outside kicking a ball around.

When I was a kid you couldn't find a blade or grass free in the local park, now they're deserted.

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon


"Just wish they were better, but that won't happen until they get our lazy Xbox obsessed, wigging youth outside kicking a ball around.

When I was a kid you couldn't find a blade or grass free in the local park, now they're deserted."

You were two when England last won a major football tournament....seems evident that packed parks wasn't the solution.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's cause rugby guys are proper men ! Footballers , pampered pussies!

Makes me see red when they sing like peoeple at church who don't know the hymns!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People criticising the national anthem because there not royalists and then needs up a hymn about Jesus really?

Jerusalem would be the worst national anthem you could imagine, next people will be suggesting swing low sweet chariot?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wish they were better, but that won't happen until they get our lazy Xbox obsessed, wigging youth outside kicking a ball around.

When I was a kid you couldn't find a blade or grass free in the local park, now they're deserted.

You were two when England last won a major football tournament....seems evident that packed parks wasn't the solution."

5 actually, completely disagree. Football is the biggest game in the world fact, Rugby is nothing is comparison, and we're not going to win the world cup at that either and how many do kids you see throwing a rugby ball around in the park, bet you see a few more in New Zealand they shouldn't be able to give us a game with their population.

To gather a good international side together to beat the likes of Brazil you need every position to be fought over by a multitude of players. Now one player gets injured the whole team is screwed, if it wasn't already. That means you need a many of youth as possible out there, looking to improve, whenever they have a free moment and wherever they can.

Our clubs in the 70's until they got banned in 1984 by the louts who were supporters apparently, were very successful. They were all either English or from the home countries. We failed to qualify in 74 and 78 (I know Scotland did, and underachieved, easily good enough to get through the first stage, I did laugh though), but by the narrowest of margins, indeed under the current system they'd have been easily in, not saying they would have won it, but they'd have done OK. Holland were the best team in both those tournaments and they won neither.

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff


"Just wish they were better, but that won't happen until they get our lazy Xbox obsessed, wigging youth outside kicking a ball around.

When I was a kid you couldn't find a blade or grass free in the local park, now they're deserted.

You were two when England last won a major football tournament....seems evident that packed parks wasn't the solution.

5 actually, completely disagree. Football is the biggest game in the world fact, Rugby is nothing is comparison, and we're not going to win the world cup at that either and how many do kids you see throwing a rugby ball around in the park, bet you see a few more in New Zealand they shouldn't be able to give us a game with their population.

To gather a good international side together to beat the likes of Brazil you need every position to be fought over by a multitude of players. Now one player gets injured the whole team is screwed, if it wasn't already. That means you need a many of youth as possible out there, looking to improve, whenever they have a free moment and wherever they can.

Our clubs in the 70's until they got banned in 1984 by the louts who were supporters apparently, were very successful. They were all either English or from the home countries. We failed to qualify in 74 and 78 (I know Scotland did, and underachieved, easily good enough to get through the first stage, I did laugh though), but by the narrowest of margins, indeed under the current system they'd have been easily in, not saying they would have won it, but they'd have done OK. Holland were the best team in both those tournaments and they won neither."

You've got more chance of winning the rugby world cup this year than of ever winning the football one.English football players show us every four years how over paid,and shit they are..

And its got nothing to do with kids playing their xboxes,its more parents not letting kids to go out and play...

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By *etitesaraTV/TS
over a year ago

rochdale

God Save The Queen should only be sung when Playing Scotland - and then only the 6th verse! ??

Its a dirge, and so is Jerusalem. Lets have Land of Hope and Glory if we want an uplifting anthem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would say it's more about the big teams caring more about buying the league by buying all the top players from around the world. English players are not getting enough competition to improve so we have the same choice of player regardless of how good they play.

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff


"God Save The Queen should only be sung when Playing Scotland - and then only the 6th verse! ??

Its a dirge, and so is Jerusalem. Lets have Land of Hope and Glory if we want an uplifting anthem."

Ha - and people wonder why the Jocks boo it! In fairness, Flower of Scotland is a dirge with questionable sentiments too!

See, I think Jerusalem is a far nicer tune than LOHAG. Also, the latter was written by an Englishmen, but has been sung by all parts of the UK as a celebration of Britishness. Jerusalem is very specific to England and the sentiments are beautiful and much more than simply being about Jesus.

I don't really care about nationality anyway anymore, so I don't know why I'm pontificating - I just like nice people wherever they're from.

Also - I know heaven exists in England (as theorised on Jerusalem) - I've seen a certain woman from Sheffield who's been wowing the chatrooms this week

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wish they were better, but that won't happen until they get our lazy Xbox obsessed, wigging youth outside kicking a ball around.

When I was a kid you couldn't find a blade or grass free in the local park, now they're deserted.

You were two when England last won a major football tournament....seems evident that packed parks wasn't the solution.

5 actually, completely disagree. Football is the biggest game in the world fact, Rugby is nothing is comparison, and we're not going to win the world cup at that either and how many do kids you see throwing a rugby ball around in the park, bet you see a few more in New Zealand they shouldn't be able to give us a game with their population.

To gather a good international side together to beat the likes of Brazil you need every position to be fought over by a multitude of players. Now one player gets injured the whole team is screwed, if it wasn't already. That means you need a many of youth as possible out there, looking to improve, whenever they have a free moment and wherever they can.

Our clubs in the 70's until they got banned in 1984 by the louts who were supporters apparently, were very successful. They were all either English or from the home countries. We failed to qualify in 74 and 78 (I know Scotland did, and underachieved, easily good enough to get through the first stage, I did laugh though), but by the narrowest of margins, indeed under the current system they'd have been easily in, not saying they would have won it, but they'd have done OK. Holland were the best team in both those tournaments and they won neither.

You've got more chance of winning the rugby world cup this year than of ever winning the football one.English football players show us every four years how over paid,and shit they are..

And its got nothing to do with kids playing their xboxes,its more parents not letting kids to go out and play...

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I don't disagree, but relatively few people play rugby round the world, pro rata population we should always be favourites along with France, neither will win.

English players are not shit, anybody who gets paid to play football or any sport is not shit, not as good as Spanish, Brazilian but we're talking the depth of a cigarette paper. The standard is so high, high standard require a huge amount of players and effort to get a minuscule amount of success. If you think they're over paid and have Sky cancel it, I don't or will. I don't blame them in the least for taking it.

If it is parents not letting them out (I mean during the day) maybe the government should step in, because that is cruelty and risks their health also. I know peodos and the like but everything has to be balanced.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would say it's more about the big teams caring more about buying the league by buying all the top players from around the world. English players are not getting enough competition to improve so we have the same choice of player regardless of how good they play. "

That is a factor and needs to be looked at, but more players, playing cannot do any harm.

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By *ackandkateCouple
over a year ago

Truro

If it's a singing competition then "yes" they should sing out loud to their hearts content.

Singing at a sports event does not prove diddly squat.

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon


"Just wish they were better, but that won't happen until they get our lazy Xbox obsessed, wigging youth outside kicking a ball around.

When I was a kid you couldn't find a blade or grass free in the local park, now they're deserted.

You were two when England last won a major football tournament....seems evident that packed parks wasn't the solution.

5 actually, completely disagree. Football is the biggest game in the world fact, Rugby is nothing is comparison, and we're not going to win the world cup at that either and how many do kids you see throwing a rugby ball around in the park, bet you see a few more in New Zealand they shouldn't be able to give us a game with their population.

To gather a good international side together to beat the likes of Brazil you need every position to be fought over by a multitude of players. Now one player gets injured the whole team is screwed, if it wasn't already. That means you need a many of youth as possible out there, looking to improve, whenever they have a free moment and wherever they can.

Our clubs in the 70's until they got banned in 1984 by the louts who were supporters apparently, were very successful. They were all either English or from the home countries. We failed to qualify in 74 and 78 (I know Scotland did, and underachieved, easily good enough to get through the first stage, I did laugh though), but by the narrowest of margins, indeed under the current system they'd have been easily in, not saying they would have won it, but they'd have done OK. Holland were the best team in both those tournaments and they won neither."

Not sure where I mentioned rugby!..however no matter how you spin it the fact remains we haven't won a major tournament since 1966 do you not think the reasons may be a tad more complex than the advent of Xbox.

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By *ackandkateCouple
over a year ago

Truro

I'm pretty sure most young kids in most countries will have access to computer games.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wish they were better, but that won't happen until they get our lazy Xbox obsessed, wigging youth outside kicking a ball around.

When I was a kid you couldn't find a blade or grass free in the local park, now they're deserted.

You were two when England last won a major football tournament....seems evident that packed parks wasn't the solution.

5 actually, completely disagree. Football is the biggest game in the world fact, Rugby is nothing is comparison, and we're not going to win the world cup at that either and how many do kids you see throwing a rugby ball around in the park, bet you see a few more in New Zealand they shouldn't be able to give us a game with their population.

To gather a good international side together to beat the likes of Brazil you need every position to be fought over by a multitude of players. Now one player gets injured the whole team is screwed, if it wasn't already. That means you need a many of youth as possible out there, looking to improve, whenever they have a free moment and wherever they can.

Our clubs in the 70's until they got banned in 1984 by the louts who were supporters apparently, were very successful. They were all either English or from the home countries. We failed to qualify in 74 and 78 (I know Scotland did, and underachieved, easily good enough to get through the first stage, I did laugh though), but by the narrowest of margins, indeed under the current system they'd have been easily in, not saying they would have won it, but they'd have done OK. Holland were the best team in both those tournaments and they won neither.

Not sure where I mentioned rugby!..however no matter how you spin it the fact remains we haven't won a major tournament since 1966 do you not think the reasons may be a tad more complex than the advent of Xbox."

I was answering the comment below yours as well.

No the most complex thing is for England to win the world cup we have about 2 billion footballers standing in our way. Hey we could chuck all the Xboxes away and they could all play football all day and every day and win nothing, but we'd have a healthier and maybe happier youth.

One hour playing a match, needs thirty honing your skills, players such as Best, Cruyff, Pele, Messi, they might have been born talented, but to succeed at their level takes total dedication, if your a lesser mortal more so.

Its just the FA scratch their heads, build academies and forget that really its as Ron Manager said jumpers for goalposts.

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon


"Just wish they were better, but that won't happen until they get our lazy Xbox obsessed, wigging youth outside kicking a ball around.

When I was a kid you couldn't find a blade or grass free in the local park, now they're deserted.

You were two when England last won a major football tournament....seems evident that packed parks wasn't the solution.

5 actually, completely disagree. Football is the biggest game in the world fact, Rugby is nothing is comparison, and we're not going to win the world cup at that either and how many do kids you see throwing a rugby ball around in the park, bet you see a few more in New Zealand they shouldn't be able to give us a game with their population.

To gather a good international side together to beat the likes of Brazil you need every position to be fought over by a multitude of players. Now one player gets injured the whole team is screwed, if it wasn't already. That means you need a many of youth as possible out there, looking to improve, whenever they have a free moment and wherever they can.

Our clubs in the 70's until they got banned in 1984 by the louts who were supporters apparently, were very successful. They were all either English or from the home countries. We failed to qualify in 74 and 78 (I know Scotland did, and underachieved, easily good enough to get through the first stage, I did laugh though), but by the narrowest of margins, indeed under the current system they'd have been easily in, not saying they would have won it, but they'd have done OK. Holland were the best team in both those tournaments and they won neither.

Not sure where I mentioned rugby!..however no matter how you spin it the fact remains we haven't won a major tournament since 1966 do you not think the reasons may be a tad more complex than the advent of Xbox.

I was answering the comment below yours as well.

No the most complex thing is for England to win the world cup we have about 2 billion footballers standing in our way. Hey we could chuck all the Xboxes away and they could all play football all day and every day and win nothing, but we'd have a healthier and maybe happier youth.

One hour playing a match, needs thirty honing your skills, players such as Best, Cruyff, Pele, Messi, they might have been born talented, but to succeed at their level takes total dedication, if your a lesser mortal more so.

Its just the FA scratch their heads, build academies and forget that really its as Ron Manager said jumpers for goalposts.

"

You have moved the 'jumpers' from your op.....can't see many disagreeing with a healthier nation, but what that has to do with our national football team is misleading....your numbers argument simply doesn't stack up no matter how obvious it may seem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot of the England rugby team are foreigners anyway.Same as the cricket team.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

This has got a bit off the topic lol.. when I watch rugby or England I can't help but sing the anthem. It makes me proud that is all. Wether it's a shit anthem or not, I'm proud to be English. If I ever got to represent my country I would show my pride by singing the anthem at the top of my lungs

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London


"Maybe they would if the national anthem was more uplifting instead of the dreadful dirge it is !"

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Can anyone name a good anthem?

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look at the way the brazilians and chileans sing their national anthem tomorrow in the friendly at the emirates... the way they sang their anthems at last summers world cup made me tingle....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just wish they were better, but that won't happen until they get our lazy Xbox obsessed, wigging youth outside kicking a ball around.

When I was a kid you couldn't find a blade or grass free in the local park, now they're deserted.

You were two when England last won a major football tournament....seems evident that packed parks wasn't the solution.

5 actually, completely disagree. Football is the biggest game in the world fact, Rugby is nothing is comparison, and we're not going to win the world cup at that either and how many do kids you see throwing a rugby ball around in the park, bet you see a few more in New Zealand they shouldn't be able to give us a game with their population.

To gather a good international side together to beat the likes of Brazil you need every position to be fought over by a multitude of players. Now one player gets injured the whole team is screwed, if it wasn't already. That means you need a many of youth as possible out there, looking to improve, whenever they have a free moment and wherever they can.

Our clubs in the 70's until they got banned in 1984 by the louts who were supporters apparently, were very successful. They were all either English or from the home countries. We failed to qualify in 74 and 78 (I know Scotland did, and underachieved, easily good enough to get through the first stage, I did laugh though), but by the narrowest of margins, indeed under the current system they'd have been easily in, not saying they would have won it, but they'd have done OK. Holland were the best team in both those tournaments and they won neither.

Not sure where I mentioned rugby!..however no matter how you spin it the fact remains we haven't won a major tournament since 1966 do you not think the reasons may be a tad more complex than the advent of Xbox.

I was answering the comment below yours as well.

No the most complex thing is for England to win the world cup we have about 2 billion footballers standing in our way. Hey we could chuck all the Xboxes away and they could all play football all day and every day and win nothing, but we'd have a healthier and maybe happier youth.

One hour playing a match, needs thirty honing your skills, players such as Best, Cruyff, Pele, Messi, they might have been born talented, but to succeed at their level takes total dedication, if your a lesser mortal more so.

Its just the FA scratch their heads, build academies and forget that really its as Ron Manager said jumpers for goalposts.

You have moved the 'jumpers' from your op.....can't see many disagreeing with a healthier nation, but what that has to do with our national football team is misleading....your numbers argument simply doesn't stack up no matter how obvious it may seem."

I don't understand what you're on about numbers, other that is there are only 11 places and ergo you need only 11 players, sorry if I'm being patronising or stupid and not getting your premise.

What I mean is simply this you want as much talent going going after those 11 spaces as possible, starting first millions, all with one goal that is to be a good as possible, many will drop out but if you could 10+ player all going for the same spot and would kill their grannie to get it, and you might still not win anything.

Quantity has a quality all of its own, goes for rugby too, or any sport for that matter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

over rated and over paid like al footballers ,just my opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My £0.02 worth.

Kids are so overcoached these days.

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