FabSwingers.com forum: The Battle for Number 10 Cameron V Miliband Live 9pm ch4

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Will you also watch it? I recon Ed will win it cos Cameron has been chicken about and got cold feet too many times for a head on one on one debate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wearing gumboots is a must - to Wade through the bullshit!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So much for democracy even Cameron was dictating now. Don't matter how we vote an ass hole will get in that has no idea of the cost of living.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it matters who wins a public debate sadly.

Ed was the wrong brother to lead Labour.

Cameron, well. I don't have anything good to say about them.

People are so very disillusioned currently and therein lies the problem.

People will choose a winner based on how well they can find a common ground.

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

I would only watch it if it was done with spitting image puppets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What happened to the other, cooler Milliband brother?

Sorry, i don't follow the circus of politics but just wondered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think they'd get a much bigger audience if it was Cameron v Miliband DEAD on Channel 4 at 9pm.

One can but live in hope.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would only watch it if it was done with spitting image puppets

I remember when my mum's cousin used to babysit me. I walked downstairs and they were watching spitting image and she freaked "because it wasn't appropriate for you". I still see Maggie in parody to this day

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What happened to the other, cooler Milliband brother?

Sorry, i don't follow the circus of politics but just wondered."

If reports are to be believed, after "losing" he fucked off to New York to work for a charity for the measly salary of £280,000 per year. Not bad work for a socialist if you can get it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What happened to the other, cooler Milliband brother?

Sorry, i don't follow the circus of politics but just wondered.

If reports are to be believed, after "losing" he fucked off to New York to work for a charity for the measly salary of £280,000 per year. Not bad work for a socialist if you can get it. "

I'm sure he'll be back!

Don't really matter which face is on the package the product stays the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would only watch it if it was done with spitting image puppets

She was better looking on Spitting Image!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would only watch it if it was done with spitting image puppets

She was better looking on Spitting Image! "

I am not even sure how I can answer this!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would only watch it if it was done with spitting image puppets

She was better looking on Spitting Image!

I am not even sure how I can answer this!

Just grab a rolling pin & yell it in your deepest voice!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would only watch it if it was done with spitting image puppets

She was better looking on Spitting Image!

I am not even sure how I can answer this!

Just grab a rolling pin & yell it in your deepest voice!

In my best geordie accent...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would only watch it if it was done with spitting image puppets

She was better looking on Spitting Image!

I am not even sure how I can answer this!

Just grab a rolling pin & yell it in your deepest voice!

In my best geordie accent...

No way, - sexy isn't on the table!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can you imagine though!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can you imagine though!!"

Oh yes, definitely, thank you.

.......oh sorry, you mean errrm.....

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"What happened to the other, cooler Milliband brother?

Sorry, i don't follow the circus of politics but just wondered.

If reports are to be believed, after "losing" he fucked off to New York to work for a charity for the measly salary of £280,000 per year. Not bad work for a socialist if you can get it. "

There's no doubt we picked the wrong brother but I don't see why being a socialist should stop someone earning a good salary.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

"Will you also watch it? I recon Ed will win it cos Cameron has been chicken about and got cold feet too many times for a head on one on one debate.

What makes you think it is a head on one to one debate.

David Cameron is on first before the news with Ed Milliband replying after the news.

One has the advantage being on before the public get bored and switch off the other has an advantage of being able to counter topics raised earlier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would only watch it if it was done with spitting image puppets

Bring Back Spitting Image! The puppets were brilliant, the satire scathing and it gave us all something to imagine the grey politicians as when they appeared on the box.

The pc brigade would probably put the keibosh on it though

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I'm not convinced the electorate will learn much. These 'debates' are more for the benefit of the media than anything else. Light on policy, heavy on process.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"What happened to the other, cooler Milliband brother?

Sorry, i don't follow the circus of politics but just wondered."

With Salmond dropping the ball about SNP intentions to enter Westminster and oust any PM. It does make you wonder if Mr Ed Miliband and him being voted in by the Unions was a patsy undertaking from the start?

He was no way the better choice for the party.

That would be a discussion to have.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Its on in 30min

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I've switched over to watch it but have little appetite for this. I must be coming down with something or this is the least inspiring debate to hit our screens.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well Kay Burley has me terrified! What has she done to her face??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope not interested coz its non goer in scotland neither is a main contender here ......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm going to see how long I can last without just shouting at the telly.

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

I'm going to watch the mass debate, sorry I mean wankers

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I'm going to see how long I can last without just shouting at the telly. "

I couldn't do it. I've switched off and will save my shouting for QT.

It's not a head to head and there will be enough individual interviews in the coming weeks. I might go back for the audience bit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm going to see how long I can last without just shouting at the telly.

I couldn't do it. I've switched off and will save my shouting for QT.

It's not a head to head and there will be enough individual interviews in the coming weeks. I might go back for the audience bit."

Oh I can't cope with QT, because there all of the panelists AND all of the audience tend to infuriate me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cameron is a patronising slime ball at times (sorry, all the time

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By *ot monkey71Couple
over a year ago

middlesbrough

This guy gets my vote, The public sucks fuck hope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I'm going to see how long I can last without just shouting at the telly.

I couldn't do it. I've switched off and will save my shouting for QT.

It's not a head to head and there will be enough individual interviews in the coming weeks. I might go back for the audience bit.

Oh I can't cope with QT, because there all of the panelists AND all of the audience tend to infuriate me!"

It's my weekly wind-up session.

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By *ot monkey71Couple
over a year ago

middlesbrough

Now, there’s one thing you might have noticed I don’t complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don’t fall out of the sky. They don’t pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It’s what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens – if you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you’re going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain’t going to do any good; you’re just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it’s not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here… like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There’s a nice campaign slogan for somebody: ‘The Public Sucks. Fuck Hope.’ Fuck Hope.

yeah I know it says American but the same rule applies here.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"This guy gets my vote, The public sucks fuck hope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk"

Has he entered the race too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm jumping ahead a bit (Cameron must be boring me) but I read an article last week suggesting a return for David Miliband in a few years, once Ed has been ousted by the Labour Party, so he can't be seen to be launching a coup against his brother. I can definitely imagine that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm going to see how long I can last without just shouting at the telly.

I couldn't do it. I've switched off and will save my shouting for QT.

It's not a head to head and there will be enough individual interviews in the coming weeks. I might go back for the audience bit.

Oh I can't cope with QT, because there all of the panelists AND all of the audience tend to infuriate me!

It's my weekly wind-up session.

I'm not allowed to watch it anymore

I get a bit too wound up before bedtime

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I'm jumping ahead a bit (Cameron must be boring me) but I read an article last week suggesting a return for David Miliband in a few years, once Ed has been ousted by the Labour Party, so he can't be seen to be launching a coup against his brother. I can definitely imagine that."

As can I. He's got a core of steel.

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By *uyfromchiMan
over a year ago

CHICHESTER

believe in britain vote ukip !!

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

Paxman has just toasted Cameron.....he will do the same to that musical combo, the Ed Miller Band later.

This can only fall into the lap of the SNP, who will pick up votes and UKIP....can't see anyway back for either 'leader'

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By *ot monkey71Couple
over a year ago

middlesbrough

"This guy gets my vote, The public sucks fuck hope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk

Has he entered the race too?

If only, he would need to be resurrected first though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Paxman has just toasted Cameron.....he will do the same to that musical combo, the Ed Miller Band later.

This can only fall into the lap of the SNP, who will pick up votes and UKIP....can't see anyway back for either 'leader'"

Did you think? I didn't think it was a particularly thorough grilling by Paxo.

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By *onbons_xxMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"I'm going to see how long I can last without just shouting at the telly.

I couldn't do it. I've switched off and will save my shouting for QT.

It's not a head to head and there will be enough individual interviews in the coming weeks. I might go back for the audience bit.

Oh I can't cope with QT, because there all of the panelists AND all of the audience tend to infuriate me!

It's my weekly wind-up session.

Oh you should listen to 5live when they've broadcast QT, that'll keep you super wound up, it's mind numbingly achy to listen to sometimes (not selling it well I know

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

....and did you catch that bit about the welfare cut to £23000.....it will clear London of those who cannot afford it and pressurize the budgets of those cheaper areas (ie the Labour held seats up north)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do we get real accountability and insight when we have such a superficial media process like this? I do hope the future debates get into a bit more detail.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"....and did you catch that bit about the welfare cut to £23000.....it will clear London of those who cannot afford it and pressurize the budgets of those cheaper areas (ie the Labour held seats up north)"

That has been in the plans for the last two years. It was announced to hails of hurrah from all those who think anyone getting benefits is a scrounger.

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By *he_tykiesCouple
over a year ago

West Yorkshire.

"I would only watch it if it was done with spitting image puppets

Well you wont see a spitting image puppet but you will see a puppet from Wallace & Grommet or Chicken run in Millipead, right muppet too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What the fuck is going on, they're not debating they're taking questions from the audience, separately. I'm not watching that!!!!

Not only that on foreign network, that it vote UKIP, socialist workers party, ISIL, anyone except those spineless wimps, you're leaders have forsaken you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not the debates, that's a different programme.

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

One thing....Kay Burley is completely out of her depth on this.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How do we get real accountability and insight when we have such a superficial media process like this? I do hope the future debates get into a bit more detail."

I feel the same about PMQ's and question time....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's not the debates, that's a different programme."

No that's it, they won't go head to head.

Cameron won't do it and against against Wallace, really is a complete joke.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not one for politics but this Ed Milliband irks me

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Ed reminds me of a kid saying "but mum, please"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One thing....Kay Burley is completely out of her depth on this......."

She has been woeful. Totally unprofessional they way she allowed her personal bias to show through so explicitly.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Just a reminder that actually register to vote.

Individual registration came in last year so don't take it for granted that you are registered.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"One thing....Kay Burley is completely out of her depth on this.......

She has been woeful. Totally unprofessional they way she allowed her personal bias to show through so explicitly.

I had to switch off the audience Q&A because her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

"Just a reminder that actually register to vote.

Individual registration came in last year so don't take it for granted that you are registered.

And to vote. I'm a strong believer that if you don't vote, you can't moan about them

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Just a reminder that actually register to vote.

Individual registration came in last year so don't take it for granted that you are registered.

And to vote. I'm a strong believer that if you don't vote, you can't moan about them"

Ditto.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ed reminds me of a kid saying "but mum, please""

He is so out of his depth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good god. And Miliband wants to be PM.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ed reminds me of a kid saying "but mum, please"

He is so out of his depth.

For me he has come across better than expected. The audience reaction has been quite telling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good god. And Miliband wants to be PM.

What I'm watching is Jeremy paxman tearing Milliband a new arsehole right now.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I'd rather just see them all on a special QT. Audience questions and chairing.

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By *hyllyphyllyMan
over a year ago

Bradford

I liked Ed's 'I don't care what people think of me" approach

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

the winner of this isn't cameron or milliband... its paxman!!!

god i forgot what a good interviewer he is... get him back on newsnight!!!

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"the winner of this isn't cameron or milliband... its paxman!!!

god i forgot what a good interviewer he is... get him back on newsnight!!!"

He was awful. Unless you think how good an interviewer is depends on how many pointless digs he can make while avoiding pressing on a single question of substance, I suppose.

But then compared with Kay Burley, anyone will come off looking decent.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Ed reminds me of a kid saying "but mum, please"

He is so out of his depth.

Miliband was certainly dreadful. But if that was a man out of his depth, Cameron must have been kept away from the water entirely. Miliband was the only one of the two who showed a vague ability to address a question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the winner of this isn't cameron or milliband... its paxman!!!

god i forgot what a good interviewer he is... get him back on newsnight!!!"

I wish he never got personal with Milliband, and just pressed the questions that he would not/could not answer!

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

I think Paxman needs to run for PM.. love the quote at the end; "are you alright Ed? Ed, are you ok?" Ed answers in a high pitched voice, "yeeahh" hahaha lolo. I think the closing sound credits should have been on! hahah!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ed reminds me of a kid saying "but mum, please"

He is so out of his depth.

He certainly came across as the more honest of the two

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"Ed reminds me of a kid saying "but mum, please"

He is so out of his depth.

eh ? Miliband had to be reminded what the questions were as he was making up his own questions and answering those! He even tried to pre-empt questions and Paxman had to remind him what the actual question was?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ed reminds me of a kid saying "but mum, please"

He is so out of his depth.

A very vague ability. Miliband looked awful until Paxman got personal

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"Ed reminds me of a kid saying "but mum, please"

He is so out of his depth.

A very vague ability. Miliband looked awful until Paxman got personal "

It did turn into a bit of a soap

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

QT is interesting. Janet Street Porter saying they just spout cliches.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Ed reminds me of a kid saying "but mum, please"

He is so out of his depth.

A very vague ability. Miliband looked awful until Paxman got personal "

Sure. But in comparison to how lightweight Cameron was, it was a masterful performance.

It's really something when Miliband managing to scrape together twenty seconds of character in the face of Paxman's embarrassingly weak questions marks him with the appearance of the most competent political leader in the country.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Jim Murphy stating the obvious: why didn't Cameron just agree to a straightforward debate?

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Jim Murphy stating the obvious: why didn't Cameron just agree to a straightforward debate?

i like jim murphy a lot as a politician.. he is one of those that will tell it straight (well as straight as any politician is.....)

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

I really cannot get the way Alec Salmonds addresses an audience out of my bloody head and the way Miliband seems to.

I watched Salmond quite intently in his independence debates... The way Miliband deflects his answer to the failings in Conservative policies so readily when he doesn't know the answer, or spouts off statistics on this or that to gain a sound bite/shock factor (similar to oil revenue type diatribe Salmond was using), his gestures, the way he comes out from behind the podium then retreated back behind it. I cannot say Miliband looked at all comfortable, confident, or trust worthy at all.

When asked a question by the audience, he didnt even look the them in the eye when replying to them. He didn't inspire any confidence with me at all. I would say the country is fucked if he gets in. It'd be good to see Cleggs approach.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

just a thought... if we didn't get many straight answers from two leaders over 90 minutes... whats it going to be like next week with 7 leaders over 2 hrs.......

it is going to "soundbite city"

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Jim Murphy stating the obvious: why didn't Cameron just agree to a straightforward debate?

i like jim murphy a lot as a politician.. he is one of those that will tell it straight (well as straight as any politician is.....) "

He's a nice man too.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"just a thought... if we didn't get many straight answers from two leaders over 90 minutes... whats it going to be like next week with 7 leaders over 2 hrs.......

it is going to "soundbite city""

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't like milliband but he dad turn in a good performance

That may have been because he had an easier ride than Cameron

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

QT is not taking a break next week.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

Didn't think much of the structure or the questioning, to be honest... this is supposed to be about choosing the next government, and yet Cameron was questioned about Clarkson... FFS. What has that got to do with policies, manifestos, economy, health, business, policing, defence, etc, etc?

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

All the show proved was how weak Paxman was, totally inefficient.

Time he retired

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

milliband looked like he was gonna cry at points during the paxman assault lol

i dont see cam or mill as PM material anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's the best that milliband and has looked.

Looks like Alastair Campbell has been working on him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Neither of them are true leader they're put there by the city, media and vested interests as front men. Their job is to bore people and disengage them so turnouts are low and we get the same dull boring status quo that will continue this countries descent into being a uneducated, lager swilling, glue sniffing dirge.

Get out and vote, no harm in voting to mix it up, don't listen to idiots like Russell Brand , if you don't you have no right to complain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So having had a chance to reflect, what did we really learn? From my perspective not a lot. I guess we will have to read through the manifestos when they are ready to get some real detail as neither Miliband or Cameron seem willing to provide anything but soundbite superficial answers to the questions we as the public want properly answered. Both were evasive and not helped by a shoddy format that in my opinion did little to further the political process.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

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Fact is the program has no relevance to the upcoming election.

The real hard question was not asked...

Why did CaMoron refuse to debate his election manifesto with Miliband during the campaign proper?

No matter how you dress it up it was nothing more than an opportunity for the Tories to score PR spin points over Labour as the real issues (as relieved from reading manifestos) could not be questioned or explored.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

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"One thing....Kay Burley is completely out of her depth on this.......

She has been woeful. Totally unprofessional they way she allowed her personal bias to show through so explicitly.

Do you really think she was biased? And if so can you tell me which way she was biased because I really couldn't say myself.

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over a year ago

I thought they both did quite well in bringing over the act of how concerned they are for the average person!.

Both seemed very likeable, affable and serious.

It's just a pity it's an orchestrated act that the public seem to fall for constantly.

Three was a chap on the radio talking about immigration the other day, he happened to mention there's 5000 jobs available in Swansea and 7000 unemployed people.

Now tackling the problem of providing jobs that actually pay enough to live on and getting the ones who don't want to work to fill the jobs is pretty hard, much easier to just get some person from a piss poor country and let them fill the job that doesn't pay enough to live on and keep paying the ones that don't want to work with benefits.... After all its not the politicians money!.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Fact is the program has no relevance to the upcoming election.

The real hard question was not asked...

Why did CaMoron refuse to debate his election manifesto with Miliband during the campaign proper?

We all already know the answer to that question and I'd hardly say it's the most important anyway.

If you don't already know why then I'll tell you. Cameron has nothing to gain and everything to loos by going head to head with Miliband. In my opinion Miliband is underrated by the public. Allowing him to stand on an equal bases with Cameron would give him a level of credence that would not be in Cameron's interests. So why would Cameron do it?

My over all take on last night was a close but clear win for Cameron (and yes, I know I may be letting my own personal bias prejudice my judgment).

I the other hand I also feel that Miliband did better than most people would have expected. (Having followed him quite closely myself rather than just reading the press I personally don't thing he did as well as he could have done).

On balance I feel that Cameron came across as more competent but I think Miliband had a slight edge in coming across as more sincere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All the show proved was how weak Paxman was, totally inefficient.

Time he retired"

Completely agree. He was rude, twisting his truth and as Ed put it well:

"You asked me a question, so let me finish it."

The interviews were a load of poppycock as the interviewers were really quite poor

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over a year ago

"One thing....Kay Burley is completely out of her depth on this.......

She has been woeful. Totally unprofessional they way she allowed her personal bias to show through so explicitly.

Do you really think she was biased? And if so can you tell me which way she was biased because I really couldn't say myself."

Very fawning over Cameron, never intervened with him in the same way she did with Miliband and to ask at the end if he eats 3 shredded wheat was like watching a schoolgirl flashing her lashes at a teacher she fancies. I thought her tone and style throughout lacked any sort of gravitas.

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

"One thing....Kay Burley is completely out of her depth on this......."

Mind you....if you want to reduce this to the shallowest level.......I would

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

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"One thing....Kay Burley is completely out of her depth on this.......

She has been woeful. Totally unprofessional they way she allowed her personal bias to show through so explicitly.

Do you really think she was biased? And if so can you tell me which way she was biased because I really couldn't say myself.

She made a mockery of what could have been a serious event. Paxman and her were very light with Cameron, unlike with Miliband. I was really put off Paxman, though he is a Conservative supporter. For all of his professional experience, he trashed my esteem of him, as he let Cameron consistently not answer questions and just spout puff promotion of the party.

Overall, neither Mil or Cam were incredible, but Mil did come across as much better than I thought, especially due to the style of questioning that he got - at least he answered more of the questions that he received, unlike the spin doctor Cameron.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"One thing....Kay Burley is completely out of her depth on this.......

She has been woeful. Totally unprofessional they way she allowed her personal bias to show through so explicitly.

Do you really think she was biased? And if so can you tell me which way she was biased because I really couldn't say myself.

Agree on the gravitas but I personally didn't notice the bias while the program was on. Maybe my own personal bias impaired my ability to see it.

Most right of centre opinion is that Kay Burley is biased towards the left. I didn't see any of that last night either. Personally I think Miliband did pretty well in the question and answer section, maybe even slightly better than Cameron. He came across to me as sincere, honest and wanting what he thought was best for Britain.

I personally still won't be voting for him but he did alright.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I really liked the showdown. I prefer Ed cos he more funnier and can have a laugh with him whilst Cameron is a bit uptight.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"Fact is the program has no relevance to the upcoming election.

The real hard question was not asked...

Why did CaMoron refuse to debate his election manifesto with Miliband during the campaign proper?

We all already know the answer to that question and I'd hardly say it's the most important anyway.

My over all take on last night was a close but clear win for Cameron (and yes, I know I may be letting my own personal bias prejudice my judgment).

On balance I feel that Cameron came across as more competent but I think Miliband had a slight edge in coming across as more sincere.

So on balance you agree that last nights whatever was nothing more than a distraction that benefited CaMoron...

Shame Miliband will not exploit it in the way he should, I am sure that if the roles were reversed there would be no hesitation in nailing Miliband as a coward...

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Fact is the program has no relevance to the upcoming election.

The real hard question was not asked...

Why did CaMoron refuse to debate his election manifesto with Miliband during the campaign proper?

We all already know the answer to that question and I'd hardly say it's the most important anyway.

My over all take on last night was a close but clear win for Cameron (and yes, I know I may be letting my own personal bias prejudice my judgment).

On balance I feel that Cameron came across as more competent but I think Miliband had a slight edge in coming across as more sincere.

So on balance you agree that last nights whatever was nothing more than a distraction that benefited CaMoron...

Shame Miliband will not exploit it in the way he should, I am sure that if the roles were reversed there would be no hesitation in nailing Miliband as a coward...

Miliband has exploited it as best he can. He's called Cameron a chicken and a coward. Some of that will stick but I'm guessing they have made the calculation that they COULD have lost more by going head to head. It's called politics.

Hopefully, from my point of view, we'll never get to know what Miliband would do in the same situation.

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By *i-shoptonMan
over a year ago

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Jumping in here( apologies if it's already been commented on) but I find one of the issues raised- and definitely not answered was what might be an acceptable 'top out' population for the UK ?...( 75 million?, 90 million??

" oh I won't be drawn on that Jeremy" , says Milli-bland..) Tricky one , but it needs to be addressed politically...........

David Attenborough has strong views , ie the World( never mind the UK) is unsustainably overpopulated

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

"Jumping in here( apologies if it's already been commented on) but I find one of the issues raised- and definitely not answered was what might be an acceptable 'top out' population for the UK ?...( 75 million?, 90 million??

" oh I won't be drawn on that Jeremy" , says Milli-bland..) Tricky one , but it needs to be addressed politically...........

David Attenborough has strong views , ie the World( never mind the UK) is unsustainably overpopulated"

What figure would you suggest and why?

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over a year ago

" oh I won't be drawn on that Jeremy" , says Milli-bland..) Tricky one , but it needs to be addressed politically...........

David Attenborough has strong views , ie the World( never mind the UK) is unsustainably overpopulated

What figure would you suggest and why?"
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15 million less than we currently are!.

I suggest we start with London

Nah I'm only kidding....

About London not the 15 million

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

They are interviewing nick clegg now ch4.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

They r interviewing Cameroon now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"believe in britain vote ukip !!

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