FabSwingers.com forum: Herpes. Is it irresponsible to still meet.

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

First off I don't have any diseases or infections but a girl on here I used to chat to had herpes. Do you think she should have made it known to everyone she slept with. She doesn't seem to think so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it was in the outbreak stage, highly irresponsible

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"First off I don't have any diseases or infections but a girl on here I used to chat to had herpes. Do you think she should have made it known to everyone she slept with. She doesn't seem to think so. "

Genital herpes?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The percentage of the population who carry the herpes virus is absolutely huge, including a lot of people who don't even know as they may be asymptomatic. I'd say if it's not about her meeting you, then it's probably none of your business.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would like to think a responsible adult would notify anything like that on the profile, just to ensure that the guys she is meeting are aware before they contact. Regardless of what type they have.

However we cant make people disclose any private information, that's why you should play safe! everybody is responsible for their own health!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no need....just don't meet during an outbreak. most people have it anyway with no symptoms ever. I expect someone will be along with the statistics later.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I would like to think a responsible adult would notify anything like that on the profile, just to ensure that the guys she is meeting are aware before they contact. Regardless of what type they have.

However we cant make people disclose any private information, that's why you should play safe! everybody is responsible for their own health!"

I get coldsores, therefore I have the herpes virus. I should put that on my profile?

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

Something I just read said you can still pass the virus on even if you aren't having an outbreak. I didn't realise this??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

However we cant make people disclose any private information, that's why you should play safe! everybody is responsible for their own health!

I get coldsores, therefore I have the herpes virus. I should put that on my profile? "

I'm always amazed at the ignorance displayed around herpes and the way some behave like it's a death sentence. the only way you can truly protect against herpes is by having no skin to skin contact with anyone. condoms make little difference.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

"Something I just read said you can still pass the virus on even if you aren't having an outbreak. I didn't realise this?? "

And further research confirms that it can be passed on through the skin even without symptoms or visible sores.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

An estimated 6 in 10 people have it. You might already have had it for years.

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

However we cant make people disclose any private information, that's why you should play safe! everybody is responsible for their own health!

I get coldsores, therefore I have the herpes virus. I should put that on my profile?

On second thoughts, maybe I will put it on my profile...could nicely deter some of the idiots who haven't bothered to educate themselves on what it means

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Something I just read said you can still pass the virus on even if you aren't having an outbreak. I didn't realise this??

And further research confirms that it can be passed on through the skin even without symptoms or visible sores. "

exactly. so if you're worried avoid all skin contact with everyone. as a swinger I assume that I either already have it or will get it at some point. to me is an acceptable risk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

However we cant make people disclose any private information, that's why you should play safe! everybody is responsible for their own health!

I get coldsores, therefore I have the herpes virus. I should put that on my profile?

On second thoughts, maybe I will put it on my profile...could nicely deter some of the idiots who haven't bothered to educate themselves on what it means

hahah like it

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on"

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be honest I don't think anyone is going to admit to having it whether it be on a profile or in person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you've had genital herpes in the past then you don't need to tell the new people you are meeting unless you are symptomatic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be honest I don't think anyone is going to admit to having it whether it be on a profile or in person. "

As in genital

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6"

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6"

He is probably talking about when people have an outbreak?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be honest I don't think anyone is going to admit to having it whether it be on a profile or in person.

As in genital "

But it's the same virus. There are two strains, simplex 1 and simplex 2, with 2 being more severe, but both can manifest themselves as genital herpes or oral herpes.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

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Were you kissed as a baby? Did you have chicken pox? Are you certain you are not a carrier for genital herpes?

I have cold sores therefore I have herpes. I don't meet when I have a cold sore, wear a patch and avoid kissing anyone if I even feel a tingle but the chances are that pre-tingle I may have passed on herpes.

Should I put that on my profile? Will you do the same?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus. "

But if you knowingly have genital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

He is probably talking about when people have an outbreak? "

From what the OP's said are you confident he understands the difference?

Because why would he say "her numerous meets have had numerous meets" is he implying that they all meet others while having outbreaks and not telling anyone?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have genital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!"

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have genital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus. "

How many use full barrier protection for oral? That would include kissing, of course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have genital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus.

How many use full barrier protection for oral? That would include kissing, of course."

I wear an anti radiation suit to every meet...and wave at them through a window.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have genital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus.

How many use full barrier protection for oral? That would include kissing, of course.

I wear an anti radiation suit to every meet...and wave at them through a window.

was lovely to meet you though all the same

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By *onbons_xxMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have genital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus.

How many use full barrier protection for oral? That would include kissing, of course.

I wear an anti radiation suit to every meet...and wave at them through a window.

That's on my to-do list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have genital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus. "

I know it's the same virus and I know you can carry it without knowing that you do

If you have an actual outbreak of herpes on your genitals / your mouth I would prefer to be told beforehand so I can make a choice whether to have sex or not.

You don't have to publicly declare it but a text to say shit I have developed a cold sore or blisters on my penis would be appreciated

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

However we cant make people disclose any private information, that's why you should play safe! everybody is responsible for their own health!

I get coldsores, therefore I have the herpes virus. I should put that on my profile?

On second thoughts, maybe I will put it on my profile...could nicely deter some of the idiots who haven't bothered to educate themselves on what it means

Then you'll get the sickos with a coldsore fetish

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have gen

ital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus. "

What about if you've never shown symptoms of either? Can you still be a carrier with no symptoms?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have genital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus.

I know it's the same virus and I know you can carry it without knowing that you do

If you have an actual outbreak of herpes on your genitals / your mouth I would prefer to be told beforehand so I can make a choice whether to have sex or not.

You don't have to publicly declare it but a text to say shit I have developed a cold sore or blisters on my penis would be appreciated

but why would anyone want to meet if they had an outbreak? obviously you would expect someone to cancel if they had an outbreak ....I thought we were talking about if they carry the virus?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have genital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus.

I know it's the same virus and I know you can carry it without knowing that you do

If you have an actual outbreak of herpes on your genitals / your mouth I would prefer to be told beforehand so I can make a choice whether to have sex or not.

You don't have to publicly declare it but a text to say shit I have developed a cold sore or blisters on my penis would be appreciated

Ah gotcha. Well I never meet with so much as a cold sore tingle coming on let alone a scabby mouth and nose like I get (it's a good look) and I imagine a genital outbreak must be so painful I can't imagine they'd want to meet in that situation anyway!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have gen

ital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus.

What about if you've never shown symptoms of either? Can you still be a carrier with no symptoms? "

Yes plenty of people carry it but have no symptoms.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have gen

ital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus.

What about if you've never shown symptoms of either? Can you still be a carrier with no symptoms? "

Yes! Most of us contract the virus from a kiss from a parent or family member as babies. We might have one mild outbreak then and nothing else. It could look like the sort of sores some babies get with teething.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"I wear an anti radiation suit to every meet...and wave at them through a window.

Yummy...the Geiger counter is positively crackling at the thought!

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have gen

ital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus.

What about if you've never shown symptoms of either? Can you still be a carrier with no symptoms?

Yes plenty of people carry it but have no symptoms."

I thought so.. It's like genetics and carrying certain traits but not displaying them. Or not. I'm tired so I'm not entirely sure what I'm saying xD

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have genital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus.

How many use full barrier protection for oral? That would include kissing, of course.

I wear an anti radiation suit to every meet...and wave at them through a window.

Ah....wondered who it was i met. Couldn't quite see through the dark green glass. Should my verification read that at least I didn't get herpes?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Just to throw a little cat amongst these pigeons... Shaving, waxing and other genital hair removal can leave you more susceptible to contracting herpes as you are exposing more skin. You also have more damaged skin, probably with small cuts or lesions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I have offended anybody by my comments I apologise, I was meaning when they are being symptomatic, I have actually seen a profile where the person stated they have type 1, I had a massive amount of respect for that person who actually stated it on the profile.

I am not saying it should be stated, and I completely respect others decisions for it.

If I have caused anybody offense with my opinion to then I do apologise as no offense was meant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have genital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus.

I know it's the same virus and I know you can carry it without knowing that you do

If you have an actual outbreak of herpes on your genitals / your mouth I would prefer to be told beforehand so I can make a choice whether to have sex or not.

You don't have to publicly declare it but a text to say shit I have developed a cold sore or blisters on my penis would be appreciated

I was just trying to make it clear so a little OTT with the blister reference ~ as I thought the thread had rather blurred lines re having sex whilst being a carrier of herpes (known or otherwise) and having sex whilst being symptomatic / outbreak.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I think honesty is important

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How many use full barrier protection for oral? That would include kissing, of course.

I wear an anti radiation suit to every meet...and wave at them through a window.

Ah....wondered who it was i met. Couldn't quite see through the dark green glass. Should my verification read that at least I didn't get herpes?"

I think you are confusing me with that guy that works in the nuclear powerplant!!

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

How many use full barrier protection for oral? That would include kissing, of course.

I wear an anti radiation suit to every meet...and wave at them through a window.

Ah....wondered who it was i met. Couldn't quite see through the dark green glass. Should my verification read that at least I didn't get herpes?

I think you are confusing me with that guy that works in the nuclear powerplant!!"

Homer Simpson?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I guess a lot want to know. Others don't worry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I guess a lot want to know. Others don't worry. "

You haven't made it clear whether you mean you'd want to know whether someone has ever had herpes, whether they have a current outbreak or whether they're one of the small proportion of the population who doesn't have or carry the virus.

Everybody who is terrified of the herpes virus, feel free not to meet me

But I'd suggest you should probably have no skin to skin contact with anyone else, ever again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I guess a lot want to know. Others don't worry.

Everybody who is terrified of the herpes virus, feel free not to meet me

But I'd suggest you should probably have no skin to skin contact with anyone else, ever again. "

I could always hire out my anti radiation suit as a precaution??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I guess a lot want to know. Others don't worry.

Everybody who is terrified of the herpes virus, feel free not to meet me

But I'd suggest you should probably have no skin to skin contact with anyone else, ever again.

I could always hire out my anti radiation suit as a precaution??"

It's ok, I'm working on building a leper colony.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I guess a lot want to know. Others don't worry. "

the funny thing is, OP, you probably already have the virus without knowing'...so how can you tell others?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can get a blood test, at a private clinic. The NHS do not consider it worth while to test everyone, unless it is a new patient having their first episode. This is because it is such a commonly carried virus it is present in the majority of adults in the UK. Symptoms can be as diverse as a small mouth ulcer or split lip to a full on blister attack that covers a large area of skin. Not just mouth or genitals, even legs, body, arms...if you are that worried, go get a blood test. Put your mind at rest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your local health authority has some really good leaflets available at all GUM clinics and on request from you GP or family planning clinic that may have 1 or 2 surprises about how STI infections are carried n passed on

I always thought i had good knowledge of sexual health until something was pointed out to me regarding this topic n i now have all the relevant information i need to TRY n keep myself safe but unless i go live in a log cabin in the middle of nowhere with a wolf n bear for company i will always be at risk of some kind of infection if i have human contact, Sorry but thats the long n short of it we can all carry an STI or other non sexual virus or infection without knowing. Regular check ups are a must for personal piece of mind but somethings just cant be helped coz they dont pop up on our heads like tattoo's saying "hi i have"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

However we cant make people disclose any private information, that's why you should play safe! everybody is responsible for their own health!

I get coldsores, therefore I have the herpes virus. I should put that on my profile? "

That means you have type 1 though which most do have type 2 is much rarer and can have severe consequences for people.

So if you had type 2 then yes you should put it on your profile just as if you had HIV or Hep C.

people saying it's only infectious during an outbreak should remember it's also infectious for a period before and after the outbreak and it can contaminate clothing and materials.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a lot have already said on here, there is a high proportion of people who will be carrying the virus in some form and may not even know it unless they start showing symptoms and therefore have to get treatment.

You can only pass herpes on to someone else during a flare up or outbreak, just like skin contact if you have a coldsore so I don't think she needs to inform anyone she's meeting that she carries the virus, I do just hope she'd be responsible enough not to have sex with someone whilst she has the visible sores and blisters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have genital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus. "

No you can give them type one on their genitals but you couldn't give them type 2.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As a lot have already said on here, there is a high proportion of people who will be carrying the virus in some form and may not even know it unless they start showing symptoms and therefore have to get treatment.

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Genital-herpes/Pages/Introduction.aspx

again no.

Herpes can be passed on even when displaying no visible symptoms.

So stop repeating that prices of bad information.

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over a year ago

"I think if you knowingly have it you should make it known. Especially as say her numerous meets have had numerous meets who had numerous meets and so on

Did you see my point that most people have it?

http://www.herpes.org.uk/faq.html#6

... And by "have it" I mean already carry the virus.

But if you knowingly have genital herpes then you should disclose the fact to the person before you have sex.

I'd be well pissed off if I contracted genital herpes from someone who knew they had it!!

But you can contract genital herpes from someone who's only ever had oral herpes on themselves. It's the same virus.

No you can give them type one on their genitals but you couldn't give them type 2.

Yes, but what I've written is still entirely correct. The simplex 1/simplex 2 division is not as straightforward as one is oral and one is genital, mainly because of oral sex.

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over a year ago

http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Genital-herpes/Pages/Introduction.aspx

again no.

Herpes can be passed on even when displaying no visible symptoms.

So stop repeating that prices of bad information. "

That's interesting to read actually, the last time I went for my regular screening a few weeks ago I was waiting for my initial results and to pass the time I started reading some of the leaflets in the waiting room.

I remember reading one about herpes as I didn't really know a great deal about it and it stated what I've just put so that is a bit confusing really considering it was an NHS sexual health clinic as well lol

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over a year ago

If you want reliable information visit the Herpes website.

You can have both types orally and genitally but Type1 prefers to live above the waist, Type2 below

You can pass either one on without having symptoms

Type 1 is very common and many people are symptomless carriers. Type2 causes more severe and frequent outbreaks generally

Ignorance is no excuse and as the OP suggests, honesty is the best policy.

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