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"I've just been reading in the news that a group of anti-UKIP protesters have chased Farrage out of a pub. Generally I wouldn't have too much of a problem with this, if he was there rallying the local Mail readers and being busy getting misquoted. However, this time he was just having a Sunday dinner down his local with his wife and two children. I feel that everyone should have a right to respect for their family and private life (Art. 8). By all accounts I've read it looks like an unpleasant incident all round. Even in the Godfather family and home is left alone. " The scene where Michaels bedroom is shot up with him and Kay in it? | |||
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"I've just been reading in the news that a group of anti-UKIP protesters have chased Farrage out of a pub. Generally I wouldn't have too much of a problem with this, if he was there rallying the local Mail readers and being busy getting misquoted. However, this time he was just having a Sunday dinner down his local with his wife and two children. I feel that everyone should have a right to respect for their family and private life (Art. 8). By all accounts I've read it looks like an unpleasant incident all round. Even in the Godfather family and home is left alone. " I don't agree with people doing this to him, he's a politician and a giant pillock but he should be allowed to have a personal life. On the opposite side though how long has it been since a polician has allowed us to behave as we want in our own home and personal life? | |||
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"He's always in the pub !!! Is he putting it on expenses ? "£350 for a lunch.. someone else can pay..  | |||
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"He's always in the pub !!! Is he putting it on expenses ?
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someone else can pay.. "Us oh well all the other party's have been caught doing it | |||
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"I don't care which party a politician represents, a private lunch with their family in any establishment is off limits. " Totally agree  | |||
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"I don't care which party a politician represents, a private lunch with their family in any establishment is off limits. Totally agree "Yep... | |||
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"Cant stand the heat then get out of the kitchen... On the other hand, would he give the same level of care to immigrants, legal or illegal, in detention centres? Dawn raids? Repatriation? Him and his party dish it out then he can hardly expect a smooth ride. If his local is bad, being a multi millionaire he can return home to his life of privilege. Maybe the protesters should have written a polite letter to him instead. " I thought that was a fictional program, have i missed the result and aftermath, i did have a lie in today  | |||
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"kind of ironic when you consider the turd is gearing-up to interfere in the private lives of 60 million or so people" In another thread..you wrote UKIP do not stand a chance of winning anything..so what you worried about. | |||
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"kind of ironic when you consider the turd is gearing-up to interfere in the private lives of 60 million or so people In another thread..you wrote UKIP do not stand a chance of winning anything..so what you worried about." didn't say i'm worried ... just commented on the irony of the turds intensions | |||
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"First thoughts were thats goinh a bit far. But on second thoughts i wonder how many of Farage's followers intimidate/threaten/bully Gays/Immigrants etc etc " I'm sure if they did..it would be in the new's everyday..but it's not..is it. | |||
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"First thoughts were thats goinh a bit far. But on second thoughts i wonder how many of Farage's followers intimidate/threaten/bully Gays/Immigrants etc etc I'm sure if they did..it would be in the new's everyday..but it's not..is it." it has been in the news though or is your memory that short? | |||
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"Cant stand the heat then get out of the kitchen... On the other hand, would he give the same level of care to immigrants, legal or illegal, in detention centres? Dawn raids? Repatriation? Him and his party dish it out then he can hardly expect a smooth ride. If his local is bad, being a multi millionaire he can return home to his life of privilege. Maybe the protesters should have written a polite letter to him instead. " totally agree about him, but I do not agree with his 2 children being put through that.  | |||
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"I would not welcome him into my businesses if I'm totally honest Family or no family Any business reserves the right to turn customer's away He turns my stomach so I'd say on ya bike " You wouldn't be in business very long | |||
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"I would not welcome him into my businesses if I'm totally honest Family or no family Any business reserves the right to turn customer's away He turns my stomach so I'd say on ya bike " Any business does not have the right to turn customers away, you may remember the case of the Bed and Breakfast owners who were very religious and turned away a gay couple as it was against their religious beliefs, the B and B owners were then dragged through the courts and taken to the ECHR on the matter. | |||
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"First thoughts were thats goinh a bit far. But on second thoughts i wonder how many of Farage's followers intimidate/threaten/bully Gays/Immigrants etc etc I'm sure if they did..it would be in the new's everyday..but it's not..is it. it has been in the news though or is your memory that short?" Come on then new's worm..list them | |||
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"Cant stand the heat then get out of the kitchen... On the other hand, would he give the same level of care to immigrants, legal or illegal, in detention centres? Dawn raids? Repatriation? Him and his party dish it out then he can hardly expect a smooth ride. If his local is bad, being a multi millionaire he can return home to his life of privilege. Maybe the protesters should have written a polite letter to him instead. totally agree about him, but I do not agree with his 2 children being put through that. "He is regularly being chased out of pubs and the right wing media have given him millions in free publicity. With elections and heightened tentions just now he must have realized what to expect. I'm not excusing the protesters actions but he must have known there was a risk so it's partly his fault too. Ukip have very little power in Scotland, im proud to say! | |||
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"Cant stand the heat then get out of the kitchen... On the other hand, would he give the same level of care to immigrants, legal or illegal, in detention centres? Dawn raids? Repatriation? Him and his party dish it out then he can hardly expect a smooth ride. If his local is bad, being a multi millionaire he can return home to his life of privilege. Maybe the protesters should have written a polite letter to him instead. totally agree about him, but I do not agree with his 2 children being put through that.
He is regularly being chased out of pubs and the right wing media have given him millions in free publicity. With elections and heightened tentions just now he must have realized what to expect.
I'm not excusing the protesters actions but he must have known there was a risk so it's partly his fault too.
Ukip have very little power in Scotland, im proud to say! "No you just have the SNP who want to break up the United Kingdom. | |||
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"I would not welcome him into my businesses if I'm totally honest Family or no family Any business reserves the right to turn customer's away He turns my stomach so I'd say on ya bike Any business does not have the right to turn customers away, you may remember the case of the Bed and Breakfast owners who were very religious and turned away a gay couple as it was against their religious beliefs, the B and B owners were then dragged through the courts and taken to the ECHR on the matter. " I think you'll find they do That was because they voices their bigoted reasons I'd just say no Pubs and clubs routinely turn people away and don't have to prove their reasons | |||
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"Cant stand the heat then get out of the kitchen... On the other hand, would he give the same level of care to immigrants, legal or illegal, in detention centres? Dawn raids? Repatriation? Him and his party dish it out then he can hardly expect a smooth ride. If his local is bad, being a multi millionaire he can return home to his life of privilege. Maybe the protesters should have written a polite letter to him instead. totally agree about him, but I do not agree with his 2 children being put through that.
He is regularly being chased out of pubs and the right wing media have given him millions in free publicity. With elections and heightened tentions just now he must have realized what to expect.
I'm not excusing the protesters actions but he must have known there was a risk so it's partly his fault too.
Ukip have very little power in Scotland, im proud to say!
No you just have the SNP who want to break up the United Kingdom. "Cool. Not 'just' the snp. Lots of minority parties want to have home rule with all power being used and decided at holyrood. Its not about breaking up the uk but letting scots use their own talents, wealth et al. No monarchy. No more tory london based policies. No nuclear weapons. No illegal wars. No bedroom tax. No accepting that food banks are the best way of nurturing children. Sounds fab to me. | |||
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"I would not welcome him into my businesses if I'm totally honest Family or no family Any business reserves the right to turn customer's away He turns my stomach so I'd say on ya bike Any business does not have the right to turn customers away, you may remember the case of the Bed and Breakfast owners who were very religious and turned away a gay couple as it was against their religious beliefs, the B and B owners were then dragged through the courts and taken to the ECHR on the matter. I think you'll find they do That was because they voices their bigoted reasons I'd just say no Pubs and clubs routinely turn people away and don't have to prove their reasons " yes but if they just said no they would still have been accused of homophobia that's the way it works. | |||
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"I would not welcome him into my businesses if I'm totally honest Family or no family Any business reserves the right to turn customer's away He turns my stomach so I'd say on ya bike Any business does not have the right to turn customers away, you may remember the case of the Bed and Breakfast owners who were very religious and turned away a gay couple as it was against their religious beliefs, the B and B owners were then dragged through the courts and taken to the ECHR on the matter. I think you'll find they do That was because they voices their bigoted reasons I'd just say no Pubs and clubs routinely turn people away and don't have to prove their reasons yes but if they just said no they would still have been accused of homophobia that's the way it works." That's because they were You can ask anyone to leave I've done it I've seen it done No reason required | |||
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"It's good to those that hate bigots, bigoting, chasing people out've pubs lmfao. Assume they support the seemingly paedo protecting reds & blues." Yes, it makes you wonder.  | |||
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"It's good to those that hate bigots, bigoting, chasing people out've pubs lmfao. Assume they support the seemingly paedo protecting reds & blues. Yes, it makes you wonder. "It's real. All but destroyed the military, all but destroyed public services, lined their own pockets with privatisation with all but selling the crown jewels, sold us out to europe beyond the EEC agreement. Bullshitted us to excuse warmongering. Not forgetting the child abusers, peadophiles from the ranks of authority get away with alsorts and are unofically protected. No ones really bothered, no heated feelings from many, avoided subjects. Farage has a close to the bone opinion on border and everyones up in arms, serious concerns, shouting any words that end in 'ist'. It's food for thought  | |||
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"It's good to those that hate bigots, bigoting, chasing people out've pubs lmfao. Assume they support the seemingly paedo protecting reds & blues. Yes, it makes you wonder.
It's real. All but destroyed the military, all but destroyed public services, lined their own pockets with privatisation with all but selling the crown jewels, sold us out to europe beyond the EEC agreement. Bullshitted us to excuse warmongering. Not forgetting the child abusers, peadophiles from the ranks of authority get away with alsorts and are unofically protected. No ones really bothered, no heated feelings from many, avoided subjects.
Farage has a close to the bone opinion on border and everyones up in arms, serious concerns, shouting any words that end in 'ist'.
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"I would not welcome him into my businesses if I'm totally honest Family or no family Any business reserves the right to turn customer's away He turns my stomach so I'd say on ya bike " I think you'll find they don't. It depends upon the reason for turning them away. | |||
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"kind of ironic when you consider the turd is gearing-up to interfere in the private lives of 60 million or so people" But legally ! | |||
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"kind of ironic when you consider the turd is gearing-up to interfere in the private lives of 60 million or so people In another thread..you wrote UKIP do not stand a chance of winning anything..so what you worried about. didn't say i'm worried ... just commented on the irony of the turds intensions " And if he does it's because he will have been elected to do it...bit of a difference (he won't be, by the way, speaking hypothetically). Shame on those who chased him out. Not least because this has given him even more publicity. They'd have been better off just ignoring him in the corner. | |||
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"I don't care which party a politician represents, a private lunch with their family in any establishment is off limits. " | |||
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"The independent is reporting that he didn't actually have his kids with him - surely he wouldn't lie about that?" Not sure he would but maybe The Independent don't have all the facts either? Maybe if someone has video evidence of the incident then people can watch and make their own minds up? There are photos of Farages car being surrounded outside the pub on the BBC news website. I hope Farage has reported it to the police and leaves it for them to deal with. | |||
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"I would not welcome him into my businesses if I'm totally honest Family or no family Any business reserves the right to turn customer's away He turns my stomach so I'd say on ya bike Any business does not have the right to turn customers away, you may remember the case of the Bed and Breakfast owners who were very religious and turned away a gay couple as it was against their religious beliefs, the B and B owners were then dragged through the courts and taken to the ECHR on the matter. " The B&B owners weren't dragged through the courts. They went to the appeal court and the supreme court to try to get lower court rulings against them on an equality matter overturned by claiming the court rulings were a breach of the B&B owner's human rights. They also appealed to the EHCR - they weren't taken to it, they went through the court system voluntarily. It sounds like you wanted the B&B owners to succeed in ensuring their human rights took precedence over equality law. In which case you would have needed the ECHR to overturn the ruling of the UK supreme court. You'd better get that one cleared by UKIP's central committee. | |||
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"I would not welcome him into my businesses if I'm totally honest Family or no family Any business reserves the right to turn customer's away He turns my stomach so I'd say on ya bike Any business does not have the right to turn customers away, you may remember the case of the Bed and Breakfast owners who were very religious and turned away a gay couple as it was against their religious beliefs, the B and B owners were then dragged through the courts and taken to the ECHR on the matter. The B&B owners weren't dragged through the courts. They went to the appeal court and the supreme court to try to get lower court rulings against them on an equality matter overturned by claiming the court rulings were a breach of the B&B owner's human rights. They also appealed to the EHCR - they weren't taken to it, they went through the court system voluntarily. It sounds like you wanted the B&B owners to succeed in ensuring their human rights took precedence over equality law. In which case you would have needed the ECHR to overturn the ruling of the UK supreme court. You'd better get that one cleared by UKIP's central committee. " This | |||
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"Immigrant and their immigrant children chased out of British pub...surely Nige should approve?" ^^^ this | |||
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"Cant stand the heat then get out of the kitchen... On the other hand, would he give the same level of care to immigrants, legal or illegal, in detention centres? Dawn raids? Repatriation? Him and his party dish it out then he can hardly expect a smooth ride. If his local is bad, being a multi millionaire he can return home to his life of privilege. Maybe the protesters should have written a polite letter to him instead. " | |||
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"I would not welcome him into my businesses if I'm totally honest Family or no family Any business reserves the right to turn customer's away He turns my stomach so I'd say on ya bike Any business does not have the right to turn customers away, you may remember the case of the Bed and Breakfast owners who were very religious and turned away a gay couple as it was against their religious beliefs, the B and B owners were then dragged through the courts and taken to the ECHR on the matter. I think you'll find they do That was because they voices their bigoted reasons I'd just say no Pubs and clubs routinely turn people away and don't have to prove their reasons " | |||
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"How much of things are true I don't know but he said in a paper that if he knew the effect his job has on his children he wouldn't have become leader of Ukip. That was last week and now this happens. I neither like or dislike him as a person and probably won't be voting ukip any time in the near future but regardless of what some have sat just because you're in tbe public domain doesn't you've given up your freedom to enjoy things like a meal out with your family" He was a Tory first and has been with UKIP as leader for two decades. It's not new to him or his family. The difference is that they have cranked up their campaign, have had some success and he might now become an MP and not be 'only' an MEP. That said, he and his family are entitled to some privacy when he's not on the soapbox. | |||
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"It's good to those that hate bigots, bigoting, chasing people out've pubs lmfao. Assume they support the seemingly paedo protecting reds & blues. Yes, it makes you wonder.
It's real. All but destroyed the military, all but destroyed public services, lined their own pockets with privatisation with all but selling the crown jewels, sold us out to europe beyond the EEC agreement. Bullshitted us to excuse warmongering. Not forgetting the child abusers, peadophiles from the ranks of authority get away with alsorts and are unofically protected. No ones really bothered, no heated feelings from many, avoided subjects.
Farage has a close to the bone opinion on border and everyones up in arms, serious concerns, shouting any words that end in 'ist'.
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. " Well said sir.
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. Well said sir.
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And it's not UKIP"Do you realise that there can be more than one group of bigots? The people who chased Farage and family out of the pub were bigots. Farage was, is and remains a bigot. People who are members and supporters of UKIP, the party of racists and bigots, are also often bigots and racists. If they weren't, they wouldn't be members or supporters of UKIP.  | |||
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. Well said sir.
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. Well said sir.
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Define "real bigots" please."People (and I use that term loosely) who aggressively hound a family out of a pub just because they have different views would be a good definition. | |||
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. Well said sir.
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Define "real bigots" please.
People (and I use that term loosely) who aggressively hound a family out of a pub just because they have different views would be a good definition."That is vehement intolerance to another view. However, to assert UKippers are never intolerant of others views would, I feel, be incorrect. We are all bigots about something. That is what I meant by real. I haven't found a person yet who tolerates every single viewpoint. If you are such a person then I would like to meet you. | |||
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. Well said sir.
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. " I agree with these comments. I don't agree with a number of UKIP ideas but I think that Farage is a welcome breath of fresh air to the overall political scene. The people who hounded him out of a pub during a family meal are the most dangerous people in society. That is intolerance in action. | |||
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. I agree with these comments. I don't agree with a number of UKIP ideas but I think that Farage is a welcome breath of fresh air to the overall political scene. The people who hounded him out of a pub during a family meal are the most dangerous people in society. That is intolerance in action." | |||
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. I agree with these comments. I don't agree with a number of UKIP ideas but I think that Farage is a welcome breath of fresh air to the overall political scene. The people who hounded him out of a pub during a family meal are the most dangerous people in society. That is intolerance in action." . I think jumping from a bunch of people who hassle a politician in a pub to Auschwitz commandants, is about as ludicrous as the people who think Nigel farage is the new Hitler. Having at least a commitment to get off your arse and do something about a thing you feel passionate about, whether it's Nigel farage trying to stop excessive immigration or protesters trying to stop him doing it, well at least their trying, everybody else who thinks that strolling down to an election booth once every five years and sticking a cross on a piece paper should shut the fuck up because your apathetic judgemental opinionated attitudes are worth shit, or at least a five minute stroll at most!. I'm personally sick of people who talk the talk but got no commitment either way, I've seen people write that if ukip get in I'm going to emigrate!! WTF if you can't even be arsed getting up from your tv and doing something about something that's going to make you emigrate. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country... I'd suggest some people mull that phrase over! | |||
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. I agree with these comments. I don't agree with a number of UKIP ideas but I think that Farage is a welcome breath of fresh air to the overall political scene. The people who hounded him out of a pub during a family meal are the most dangerous people in society. That is intolerance in action.. I think jumping from a bunch of people who hassle a politician in a pub to Auschwitz commandants, is about as ludicrous as the people who think Nigel farage is the new Hitler. Having at least a commitment to get off your arse and do something about a thing you feel passionate about, whether it's Nigel farage trying to stop excessive immigration or protesters trying to stop him doing it, well at least their trying, everybody else who thinks that strolling down to an election booth once every five years and sticking a cross on a piece paper should shut the fuck up because your apathetic judgemental opinionated attitudes are worth shit, or at least a five minute stroll at most!. I'm personally sick of people who talk the talk but got no commitment either way, I've seen people write that if ukip get in I'm going to emigrate!! WTF if you can't even be arsed getting up from your tv and doing something about something that's going to make you emigrate. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country... I'd suggest some people mull that phrase over!" There is no place for intolerance in a civilised democracy. Whatever delusions people may be under about how right, or how wrong things are in this country, no-one has the right to shut another person up by brute force just because they disagree with their views. It is very much the way of the agenda driven activist to try to eliminate dissent by intimidation. It happens in the real world and it happens in the virtual world too. I disagree vehemently with much of the UKIP nonsense because it is nothing more than populist claptrap. I despise even more though the empty heads who resort to violence, intimidation and mob justice as a way of silencing people they disagree with. | |||
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"....should shut the fuck up because your apathetic judgemental opinionated attitudes are worth shit, or at least a five minute stroll at most!. I'm personally sick of people who talk the talk but got no commitment either way, I've seen people write that if ukip get in I'm going to emigrate!! WTF if you can't even be arsed getting up from your tv and doing something about something that's going to make you emigrate. " Sounds like you obstinately, irrationally and intolerantly dislikes other people and other ideas. So you're not only a bigot yourself but you seem quite dangerous IMHO. Anger issues? | |||
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"First thoughts were thats goinh a bit far. But on second thoughts i wonder how many of Farage's followers intimidate/threaten/bully Gays/Immigrants etc etc " Two or more wrongs still don't make it right. It's totally unacceptable in a democratic society. The people involved should be found and prosecuted to the full extent possible. | |||
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"....should shut the fuck up because your apathetic judgemental opinionated attitudes are worth shit, or at least a five minute stroll at most!. I'm personally sick of people who talk the talk but got no commitment either way, I've seen people write that if ukip get in I'm going to emigrate!! WTF if you can't even be arsed getting up from your tv and doing something about something that's going to make you emigrate. Sounds like you obstinately, irrationally and intolerantly dislikes other people and other ideas. So you're not only a bigot yourself but you seem quite dangerous IMHO. Anger issues?" . Absolutely I am angry and the stuff I'm angry about I try to do something about through lots of different actions that involve me getting off my arse doing things and putting my money where my mouth is.... Can you say the same? | |||
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"kind of ironic when you consider the turd is gearing-up to interfere in the private lives of 60 million or so people In another thread..you wrote UKIP do not stand a chance of winning anything..so what you worried about. didn't say i'm worried ... just commented on the irony of the turds intensions " There is nothing ironic about it at all. He is putting forward a legitimate argument that we should leave the EU and take control of our own immigration policies. I don't agree with that point of view but it does not give me, or anyone else, the right to threaten or harm him, his family or anyone who happens to support that view. | |||
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. I agree with these comments. I don't agree with a number of UKIP ideas but I think that Farage is a welcome breath of fresh air to the overall political scene. The people who hounded him out of a pub during a family meal are the most dangerous people in society. That is intolerance in action.. I think jumping from a bunch of people who hassle a politician in a pub to Auschwitz commandants, is about as ludicrous as the people who think Nigel farage is the new Hitler. Having at least a commitment to get off your arse and do something about a thing you feel passionate about, whether it's Nigel farage trying to stop excessive immigration or protesters trying to stop him doing it, well at least their trying, everybody else who thinks that strolling down to an election booth once every five years and sticking a cross on a piece paper should shut the fuck up because your apathetic judgemental opinionated attitudes are worth shit, or at least a five minute stroll at most!. I'm personally sick of people who talk the talk but got no commitment either way, I've seen people write that if ukip get in I'm going to emigrate!! WTF if you can't even be arsed getting up from your tv and doing something about something that's going to make you emigrate. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country... I'd suggest some people mull that phrase over! There is no place for intolerance in a civilised democracy. Whatever delusions people may be under about how right, or how wrong things are in this country, no-one has the right to shut another person up by brute force just because they disagree with their views. It is very much the way of the agenda driven activist to try to eliminate dissent by intimidation. It happens in the real world and it happens in the virtual world too. I disagree vehemently with much of the UKIP nonsense because it is nothing more than populist claptrap. I despise even more though the empty heads who resort to violence, intimidation and mob justice as a way of silencing people they disagree with. " . You vehemently disagree with anything and everything, nobody holds a high opinion of you than you!, that's blindingly obvious  | |||
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"powerful People are scared he will upset the free loading gravey train that is Europe. He not wanting to ban immigration he want to control it and quite rightly so. If this was a black family hounded out the pub their would be a national man hnt for them. The fuckers openly admited to it and nothing happens." | |||
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"....should shut the fuck up because your apathetic judgemental opinionated attitudes are worth shit, or at least a five minute stroll at most!. I'm personally sick of people who talk the talk but got no commitment either way, I've seen people write that if ukip get in I'm going to emigrate!! WTF if you can't even be arsed getting up from your tv and doing something about something that's going to make you emigrate. Sounds like you obstinately, irrationally and intolerantly dislikes other people and other ideas. So you're not only a bigot yourself but you seem quite dangerous IMHO. Anger issues?. Absolutely I am angry and the stuff I'm angry about I try to do something about through lots of different actions that involve me getting off my arse doing things and putting my money where my mouth is.... Can you say the same?" You're admitting that you're a bigot and that you are dangerous? | |||
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"It's good to those that hate bigots, bigoting, chasing people out've pubs lmfao. Assume they support the seemingly paedo protecting reds & blues. Yes, it makes you wonder.
It's real. All but destroyed the military, all but destroyed public services, lined their own pockets with privatisation with all but selling the crown jewels, sold us out to europe beyond the EEC agreement. Bullshitted us to excuse warmongering. Not forgetting the child abusers, peadophiles from the ranks of authority get away with alsorts and are unofically protected. No ones really bothered, no heated feelings from many, avoided subjects.
Farage has a close to the bone opinion on border and everyones up in arms, serious concerns, shouting any words that end in 'ist'.
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"kind of ironic when you consider the turd is gearing-up to interfere in the private lives of 60 million or so people In another thread..you wrote UKIP do not stand a chance of winning anything..so what you worried about. didn't say i'm worried ... just commented on the irony of the turds intensions And if he does it's because he will have been elected to do it...bit of a difference (he won't be, by the way, speaking hypothetically). Shame on those who chased him out. Not least because this has given him even more publicity. They'd have been better off just ignoring him in the corner."
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"....should shut the fuck up because your apathetic judgemental opinionated attitudes are worth shit, or at least a five minute stroll at most!. I'm personally sick of people who talk the talk but got no commitment either way, I've seen people write that if ukip get in I'm going to emigrate!! WTF if you can't even be arsed getting up from your tv and doing something about something that's going to make you emigrate. Sounds like you obstinately, irrationally and intolerantly dislikes other people and other ideas. So you're not only a bigot yourself but you seem quite dangerous IMHO. Anger issues?. Absolutely I am angry and the stuff I'm angry about I try to do something about through lots of different actions that involve me getting off my arse doing things and putting my money where my mouth is.... Can you say the same? You're admitting that you're a bigot and that you are dangerous? " . Absolutely I'm bigoted.... I think that nobody has the right to fuck planet up for their own selfish ends!. If you do.... I'm bigoted towards them, I really don't give a shit whether you think that's right or wrong, that's my conviction to my beliefs which are based on facts!. Not personal opinion or preferences. The world is changed by 5% of the population, always has been and always will be, the other 90% are followers! | |||
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"Immigrant and their immigrant children chased out of British pub...surely Nige should approve?" The fact that Farage's wife is German and not British could actually be used as a pointer that maybe he is not such a racist after all. Being in favour of the UK leaving Europe does not make a person a racist or bigot. | |||
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"It's funny how people come to Forage's defense, when he wants to chase families out of the country, not just a pub! A harsh lesson in karma for his kids - but a lesson in fact! " So, because he says we need to control immigration properly (not that I agree with him on how he plans to do that) it's ok for those that disagree with him to threaten and possibly assault him and his family. Wrong is wrong. What's wrong with you people. Have you lost your ability to know the difference between right and wrong. | |||
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"Define "real bigots" please People who aggressively hound a family out of a pub just because they have different views would be a good definition." This | |||
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" You're admitting that you're a bigot and that you are dangerous? . Absolutely I'm bigoted.... I think that nobody has the right to fuck planet up for their own selfish ends!. If you do.... I'm bigoted towards them, I really don't give a shit whether you think that's right or wrong, that's my conviction to my beliefs which are based on facts!. Not personal opinion or preferences. The world is changed by 5% of the population, always has been and always will be, the other 90% are followers! You missed the 'dangerous' part out. Someone has hurt the "planet" so you're going to hurt them, right? . No you said I was dangerous... Keep up with the argument at least "Yes you sound dangerous. Any thoughts on that? Also, are you going to go hurt those "baddies" you believe have hurt your planet? | |||
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. I agree with these comments. I don't agree with a number of UKIP ideas but I think that Farage is a welcome breath of fresh air to the overall political scene. The people who hounded him out of a pub during a family meal are the most dangerous people in society. That is intolerance in action.. I think jumping from a bunch of people who hassle a politician in a pub to Auschwitz commandants, is about as ludicrous as the people who think Nigel farage is the new Hitler. Having at least a commitment to get off your arse and do something about a thing you feel passionate about, whether it's Nigel farage trying to stop excessive immigration or protesters trying to stop him doing it, well at least their trying, everybody else who thinks that strolling down to an election booth once every five years and sticking a cross on a piece paper should shut the fuck up because your apathetic judgemental opinionated attitudes are worth shit, or at least a five minute stroll at most!. I'm personally sick of people who talk the talk but got no commitment either way, I've seen people write that if ukip get in I'm going to emigrate!! WTF if you can't even be arsed getting up from your tv and doing something about something that's going to make you emigrate. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country... I'd suggest some people mull that phrase over! There is no place for intolerance in a civilised democracy. Whatever delusions people may be under about how right, or how wrong things are in this country, no-one has the right to shut another person up by brute force just because they disagree with their views. It is very much the way of the agenda driven activist to try to eliminate dissent by intimidation. It happens in the real world and it happens in the virtual world too. I disagree vehemently with much of the UKIP nonsense because it is nothing more than populist claptrap. I despise even more though the empty heads who resort to violence, intimidation and mob justice as a way of silencing people they disagree with. " This | |||
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" You're admitting that you're a bigot and that you are dangerous? . Absolutely I'm bigoted.... I think that nobody has the right to fuck planet up for their own selfish ends!. If you do.... I'm bigoted towards them, I really don't give a shit whether you think that's right or wrong, that's my conviction to my beliefs which are based on facts!. Not personal opinion or preferences. The world is changed by 5% of the population, always has been and always will be, the other 90% are followers! You missed the 'dangerous' part out. Someone has hurt the "planet" so you're going to hurt them, right? . No you said I was dangerous... Keep up with the argument at least
Yes you sound dangerous. Any thoughts on that? Also, are you going to go hurt those "baddies" you believe have hurt your planet?". We try to hurt them in many ways, but not physically!. .
Like I said 5% on either side of the equation actually determine the outcome, that's just the way it is I'm afraid, the other 90% will bitch and moan a lot but won't physically get off their arse and do anything, the 5% on both sides know this, the 90% don't know, don't care, too lazy, too busy, too broke... You pick the one that suits your bigotry! | |||
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" You're admitting that you're a bigot and that you are dangerous? . Absolutely I'm bigoted.... I think that nobody has the right to fuck planet up for their own selfish ends!. If you do.... I'm bigoted towards them, I really don't give a shit whether you think that's right or wrong, that's my conviction to my beliefs which are based on facts!. Not personal opinion or preferences. The world is changed by 5% of the population, always has been and always will be, the other 90% are followers! You missed the 'dangerous' part out. Someone has hurt the "planet" so you're going to hurt them, right? . No you said I was dangerous... Keep up with the argument at least
Yes you sound dangerous. Any thoughts on that? Also, are you going to go hurt those "baddies" you believe have hurt your planet?.
We try to hurt them in many ways, but not physically!..
Like I said 5% on either side of the equation actually determine the outcome, that's just the way it is I'm afraid, the other 90% will bitch and moan a lot but won't physically get off their arse and do anything, the 5% on both sides know this, the 90% don't know, don't care, too lazy, too busy, too broke... You pick the one that suits your bigotry!" | |||
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. I agree with these comments. I don't agree with a number of UKIP ideas but I think that Farage is a welcome breath of fresh air to the overall political scene. The people who hounded him out of a pub during a family meal are the most dangerous people in society. That is intolerance in action.. I think jumping from a bunch of people who hassle a politician in a pub to Auschwitz commandants, is about as ludicrous as the people who think Nigel farage is the new Hitler. Having at least a commitment to get off your arse and do something about a thing you feel passionate about, whether it's Nigel farage trying to stop excessive immigration or protesters trying to stop him doing it, well at least their trying, everybody else who thinks that strolling down to an election booth once every five years and sticking a cross on a piece paper should shut the fuck up because your apathetic judgemental opinionated attitudes are worth shit, or at least a five minute stroll at most!. I'm personally sick of people who talk the talk but got no commitment either way, I've seen people write that if ukip get in I'm going to emigrate!! WTF if you can't even be arsed getting up from your tv and doing something about something that's going to make you emigrate. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country... I'd suggest some people mull that phrase over! I sort of agree with you, even on occasion breaking the law when it is unjust can be morally right. However I don't think direct action of this sort against individuals and their families, just because you don't agree with their point of view, can be justified. I think you sort of said that but I'm not sure." .My first post said I personally wouldn't do this. But I know people who would. People with convictions either side always go to the extremes, I'm lucky as I personally have a wife and children to "check" my own convictions against but there's lots of people in circles I know that will go "the extra mile" and I'm absolutely sure the same applies to the opposing 5% | |||
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""Also it's way of topic for this thread." It throws light on the psychology of those that use violence as a political weapon." . You keep misquoting me.... Where did I say I use violence?. I have lots of answers for a sustainable way of life, I just don't think explaining them to you will make my point any better, all that will happen is we'll have a lot longer argument over something else. The vast majority of People who join the environmental movement do it through their own life experiences not through recruitment,I could spend 4 hours explaining how were managing to fuck up the entire world but unfortunately the ways things work is,... You'll disagree about facts because those facts don't suit your world... you'll admit that were ruining the planet but proclaim I'm just one man, what about the Chinese and their coal burning!.. You'll agree that everythings fucked but still can't be arsed doing anything about it.. Or its life!! Species come and species go... It's natures way. Believe it or not after 18 years in the green party and Greenpeace I've heard it all before and I'm certainly not here to recruit anybody. My point was anybody in the 5% on either side know that 90% will go along with mostly anything the 5% say, because sloth and apathy are built in to most humans nature! Hence the battleground between the five percenters! | |||
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"There you are. That didn't hurt to explain your position, did it? You seem to be locked in a siege mentality of you vs them and only you know only you understand. Are you sure your struggle is doing you any good? You're green but where is the peace?" .Lol It is a siege mentality I'm afraid because we're under siege from all sides, it's neither a message that the public,business nor politicians like.... It just happens to be the truth! | |||
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There is absolutely no need to get personal and angry in a reasonable debate on an anonymous forum. You don't like me, you made the clear once or twice before when you got a ban for overstepping the mark.
Just chill out and enjoy the forums instead of getting personal with people. Save you getting another ban for sure. This is after all supposed to be just a bit of fun.". Your right that was over the mark I apologise! | |||
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"... You vehemently disagree with anything and everything, nobody holds a high opinion of you than you!, that's blindingly obvious
There is absolutely no need to get personal and angry in a reasonable debate on an anonymous forum. You don't like me, you made the clear once or twice before when you got a ban for overstepping the mark.
Just chill out and enjoy the forums instead of getting personal with people. Save you getting another ban for sure. This is after all supposed to be just a bit of fun..
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Just chill out and enjoy the forums instead of getting personal with people. Save you getting another ban for sure. This is after all supposed to be just a bit of fun..
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. I agree with these comments. I don't agree with a number of UKIP ideas but I think that Farage is a welcome breath of fresh air to the overall political scene. The people who hounded him out of a pub during a family meal are the most dangerous people in society. That is intolerance in action.. I think jumping from a bunch of people who hassle a politician in a pub to Auschwitz commandants, is about as ludicrous as the people who think Nigel farage is the new Hitler. Having at least a commitment to get off your arse and do something about a thing you feel passionate about, whether it's Nigel farage trying to stop excessive immigration or protesters trying to stop him doing it, well at least their trying, everybody else who thinks that strolling down to an election booth once every five years and sticking a cross on a piece paper should shut the fuck up because your apathetic judgemental opinionated attitudes are worth shit, or at least a five minute stroll at most!. I'm personally sick of people who talk the talk but got no commitment either way, I've seen people write that if ukip get in I'm going to emigrate!! WTF if you can't even be arsed getting up from your tv and doing something about something that's going to make you emigrate. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country... I'd suggest some people mull that phrase over!" I compare these people to the gas chamber operators at Auschwitz and I stand by that, I reckon they would be very good at it and really make sure their victims suffered to the end and then go home, have tea and play with their kids. Whatever Farages motives are, the subject he raises certain people view as a black and white issue. Such as the people who terrorised his family. They look at it this way for one reason they want an excuse to be assholes, like a football thugs they do it name of their team, same goes for these people who think they're fighting racism, they're not, they're venting spleen and chosen this cause, it could be about anything, take if every cause were to magically disappear, they'd fight about what colour car was right. If Farage was a new Hitler in charge opening the new Dachau, reckon they'd be fighting each other down the job centre to get their black Hugo Boss designed uniform. | |||
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"kind of ironic when you consider the turd is gearing-up to interfere in the private lives of 60 million or so people There is nothing ironic about it at all. " yes there is | |||
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"kind of ironic when you consider the turd is gearing-up to interfere in the private lives of 60 million or so people There is nothing ironic about it at all. yes there is " Well I don't see the irony. Maybe you could point it out more clearly by showing exactly how saying we should control immigration (something all the other parties are saying to) and that the UK should leave the EU is ironically related to a bunch of thugs threatening his wife and kids. What would be ironic would be if, after leaving the EU, his German wife was refused entry into the UK or he was refused entry into Germany because either the UK or Germany changed their immigration laws on the residency of spouses; something they could not do while both are members of the EU | |||
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"kind of ironic when you consider the turd is gearing-up to interfere in the private lives of 60 million or so people There is nothing ironic about it at all. yes there is " Absolutely nothing ironic about seeking election on a specific mandate. Ironic would be rowdy protesters heckling and shouting down someone depriving them of their right to free speech | |||
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"kind of ironic when you consider the turd is gearing-up to interfere in the private lives of 60 million or so people There is nothing ironic about it at all. yes there is Absolutely nothing ironic about seeking election on a specific mandate. Ironic would be rowdy protesters heckling and shouting down someone depriving them of their right to free speech" It would be even more ironic if they claimed to be doing it in the name of freedom, tolerance or democracy. | |||
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"kind of ironic when you consider the turd is gearing-up to interfere in the private lives of 60 million or so people There is nothing ironic about it at all. yes there is Well I don't see the irony. Maybe you could point it out more clearly by showing exactly how saying we should control immigration (something all the other parties are saying to) and that the UK should leave the EU is ironically related to a bunch of thugs threatening his wife and kids. What would be ironic would be if, after leaving the EU, his German wife was refused entry into the UK or he was refused entry into Germany because either the UK or Germany changed their immigration laws on the residency of spouses; something they could not do while both are members of the EU " if the kippers are a one trick pony then you may be right but on reading their website they definately intend to meddle with peoples private lives as all politicians do by the default nature of their career. because the turd decided to scarper when some folks in fancy dress did a conga into the pub where he was finishing his pint and some women were openly breast feeding in front of him there is a consensus that his private life has been interfered with ..... this is where the irony lies. as for violence and intimidation then there is no evidence from any party other than what the turd says that this happened and there are several reports from eye witnesses that testify to the fact that his wife and kids were no-where in the vacinity at the time. this is merely a storm in a tea cup as result of the turds attempt to create positive spin for himself. it's all very ironic. | |||
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"kind of ironic when you consider the turd is gearing-up to interfere in the private lives of 60 million or so people There is nothing ironic about it at all. yes there is Well I don't see the irony. Maybe you could point it out more clearly by showing exactly how saying we should control immigration (something all the other parties are saying to) and that the UK should leave the EU is ironically related to a bunch of thugs threatening his wife and kids. What would be ironic would be if, after leaving the EU, his German wife was refused entry into the UK or he was refused entry into Germany because either the UK or Germany changed their immigration laws on the residency of spouses; something they could not do while both are members of the EU if the kippers are a one trick pony then you may be right but on reading their website they definately intend to meddle with peoples private lives as all politicians do by the default nature of their career. because the turd decided to scarper when some folks in fancy dress did a conga into the pub where he was finishing his pint and some women were openly breast feeding in front of him there is a consensus that his private life has been interfered with ..... this is where the irony lies. as for violence and intimidation then there is no evidence from any party other than what the turd says that this happened and there are several reports from eye witnesses that testify to the fact that his wife and kids were no-where in the vacinity at the time. this is merely a storm in a tea cup as result of the turds attempt to create positive spin for himself. it's all very ironic." That's still not ironic. If he supported woman breast feeding in public and a bunch of women upset him or his wife and kids by breastfeeding in front of him that would be ironic. Another example would be if his wife was caught breastfeeding in public, that would be ironic because he opposes breastfeeding in public. What they did is not ironic because that's just not what the word means. | |||
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"Why as nobody mentioned the SCUMBAG bird with her tit out standing infront of the car with a baby in her arms. Shows what fuckwits went out there. If you think that was weird then you should see the other pictures. "shame i cant private message you, would love to see the pics Dorren | |||
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"Why as nobody mentioned the SCUMBAG bird with her tit out standing infront of the car with a baby in her arms. Shows what fuckwits went out there." Why is she a scumbag? Or a fuckwit? | |||
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. I agree with these comments. I don't agree with a number of UKIP ideas but I think that Farage is a welcome breath of fresh air to the overall political scene. The people who hounded him out of a pub during a family meal are the most dangerous people in society. That is intolerance in action.. I think jumping from a bunch of people who hassle a politician in a pub to Auschwitz commandants, is about as ludicrous as the people who think Nigel farage is the new Hitler. Having at least a commitment to get off your arse and do something about a thing you feel passionate about, whether it's Nigel farage trying to stop excessive immigration or protesters trying to stop him doing it, well at least their trying, everybody else who thinks that strolling down to an election booth once every five years and sticking a cross on a piece paper should shut the fuck up because your apathetic judgemental opinionated attitudes are worth shit, or at least a five minute stroll at most!. I'm personally sick of people who talk the talk but got no commitment either way, I've seen people write that if ukip get in I'm going to emigrate!! WTF if you can't even be arsed getting up from your tv and doing something about something that's going to make you emigrate. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country... I'd suggest some people mull that phrase over! There is no place for intolerance in a civilised democracy. Whatever delusions people may be under about how right, or how wrong things are in this country, no-one has the right to shut another person up by brute force just because they disagree with their views. It is very much the way of the agenda driven activist to try to eliminate dissent by intimidation. It happens in the real world and it happens in the virtual world too. I disagree vehemently with much of the UKIP nonsense because it is nothing more than populist claptrap. I despise even more though the empty heads who resort to violence, intimidation and mob justice as a way of silencing people they disagree with. " Yes, but this thread is about Farage, not 'our' police force!! | |||
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"Why as nobody mentioned the SCUMBAG bird with her tit out standing infront of the car with a baby in her arms. Shows what fuckwits went out there. Why is she a scumbag? Or a fuckwit? " You think putting your baby in front of a moving car is acceptable ???? | |||
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"kind of ironic when you consider the turd is gearing-up to interfere in the private lives of 60 million or so people There is nothing ironic about it at all. yes there is Well I don't see the irony. Maybe you could point it out more clearly by showing exactly how saying we should control immigration (something all the other parties are saying to) and that the UK should leave the EU is ironically related to a bunch of thugs threatening his wife and kids. What would be ironic would be if, after leaving the EU, his German wife was refused entry into the UK or he was refused entry into Germany because either the UK or Germany changed their immigration laws on the residency of spouses; something they could not do while both are members of the EU if the kippers are a one trick pony then you may be right but on reading their website they definately intend to meddle with peoples private lives as all politicians do by the default nature of their career. because the turd decided to scarper when some folks in fancy dress did a conga into the pub where he was finishing his pint and some women were openly breast feeding in front of him there is a consensus that his private life has been interfered with ..... this is where the irony lies. as for violence and intimidation then there is no evidence from any party other than what the turd says that this happened and there are several reports from eye witnesses that testify to the fact that his wife and kids were no-where in the vacinity at the time. this is merely a storm in a tea cup as result of the turds attempt to create positive spin for himself. it's all very ironic. That's still not ironic. If he supported woman breast feeding in public and a bunch of women upset him or his wife and kids by breastfeeding in front of him that would be ironic. Another example would be if his wife was caught breastfeeding in public, that would be ironic because he opposes breastfeeding in public. What they did is not ironic because that's just not what the word means." it is ironic .... you merely chose not to find it ironic for whatever personal reason you have | |||
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"The irony is that the language police are pouring scorn over the postee's use of the word ironic, when a quick look in the language police's Oxford guidebook would show the word ironic to have multi-meanig. Oh, the irony!! "That would be ironic if it were true and even more so now I've added this post. | |||
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"The irony is that the language police are pouring scorn over the postee's use of the word ironic, when a quick look in the language police's Oxford guidebook would show the word ironic to have multi-meanig. Oh, the irony!!
Ha! "But the real irony is that you still haven't explained how what these people did to Farage is actually ironic. Where's the contradiction or incongruent action. Without them it's not ironic. | |||
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 as in the irony placard was, or was not, ironic. Or the ironic placard was irony.
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"I've just been reading in the news that a group of anti-UKIP protesters have chased Farrage out of a pub. Generally I wouldn't have too much of a problem with this, if he was there rallying the local Mail readers and being busy getting misquoted. However, this time he was just having a Sunday dinner down his local with his wife and two children. I feel that everyone should have a right to respect for their family and private life (Art. 8). By all accounts I've read it looks like an unpleasant incident all round. Even in the Godfather family and home is left alone. " Good, he's an idiot - having watched a documetary about UKIP supporters on TV - I'd pescribe them all as requiring medication. I expect a barrage of backlash for this post. | |||
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"Hmm given the multiple meanings in the dictionary, if one of their placards was made of iron that could be called irony. We'd need to know the words on it to say whether or not it was ironic as in the irony placard was, or was not, ironic. Or the ironic placard was irony.
This could be why placards are usually made of wood and paper to avoid confusion. "It would definitely be irony if they had attached him with iron bars but I still don't think it would have been ironic. | |||
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"Hmm given the multiple meanings in the dictionary, if one of their placards was made of iron that could be called irony. We'd need to know the words on it to say whether or not it was ironic as in the irony placard was, or was not, ironic. Or the ironic placard was irony.
This could be why placards are usually made of wood and paper to avoid confusion.
It would definitely be irony if they had attached him with iron bars but I still don't think it would have been ironic. "As in the non-ironic placard was irony itself? | |||
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"That's just wrong " It most certainly is - what on earth was he thinking of - going down the pub for lunch with his wife and family | |||
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"I've just been reading in the news that a group of anti-UKIP protesters have chased Farrage out of a pub. Generally I wouldn't have too much of a problem with this, if he was there rallying the local Mail readers and being busy getting misquoted. However, this time he was just having a Sunday dinner down his local with his wife and two children. I feel that everyone should have a right to respect for their family and private life (Art. 8). By all accounts I've read it looks like an unpleasant incident all round. Even in the Godfather family and home is left alone. Good, he's an idiot - having watched a documetary about UKIP supporters on TV - I'd pescribe them all as requiring medication. I expect a barrage of backlash for this post. "Only from the UKIPerrs. Most rational people feel the same, especially about some of his/UKIP's supporters but that doesn't make what those anti-UKIP supporters did right. | |||
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"I've just been reading in the news that a group of anti-UKIP protesters have chased Farrage out of a pub. Generally I wouldn't have too much of a problem with this, if he was there rallying the local Mail readers and being busy getting misquoted. However, this time he was just having a Sunday dinner down his local with his wife and two children. I feel that everyone should have a right to respect for their family and private life (Art. 8). By all accounts I've read it looks like an unpleasant incident all round. Even in the Godfather family and home is left alone. Good, he's an idiot - having watched a documetary about UKIP supporters on TV - I'd pescribe them all as requiring medication. I expect a barrage of backlash for this post. "You don't think those UKIP supporters were hand-picked by the programme makers in those documentaries to make UKIP look bad then? Its called propaganda, just as all people living on benefits are not represented by a programme like " Benefits street". Don't believe everything you see on the telly. | |||
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. I agree with these comments. I don't agree with a number of UKIP ideas but I think that Farage is a welcome breath of fresh air to the overall political scene. The people who hounded him out of a pub during a family meal are the most dangerous people in society. That is intolerance in action.. I think jumping from a bunch of people who hassle a politician in a pub to Auschwitz commandants, is about as ludicrous as the people who think Nigel farage is the new Hitler. Having at least a commitment to get off your arse and do something about a thing you feel passionate about, whether it's Nigel farage trying to stop excessive immigration or protesters trying to stop him doing it, well at least their trying, everybody else who thinks that strolling down to an election booth once every five years and sticking a cross on a piece paper should shut the fuck up because your apathetic judgemental opinionated attitudes are worth shit, or at least a five minute stroll at most!. I'm personally sick of people who talk the talk but got no commitment either way, I've seen people write that if ukip get in I'm going to emigrate!! WTF if you can't even be arsed getting up from your tv and doing something about something that's going to make you emigrate. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country... I'd suggest some people mull that phrase over! I compare these people to the gas chamber operators at Auschwitz and I stand by that, I reckon they would be very good at it and really make sure their victims suffered to the end and then go home, have tea and play with their kids. Whatever Farages motives are, the subject he raises certain people view as a black and white issue. Such as the people who terrorised his family. They look at it this way for one reason they want an excuse to be assholes, like a football thugs they do it name of their team, same goes for these people who think they're fighting racism, they're not, they're venting spleen and chosen this cause, it could be about anything, take if every cause were to magically disappear, they'd fight about what colour car was right. If Farage was a new Hitler in charge opening the new Dachau, reckon they'd be fighting each other down the job centre to get their black Hugo Boss designed uniform. " Its the same with thuggish groups like the UAF, they are no better than the EDL who they oppose. The EDL and the UAF are two sides of the same ugly hate filled coin. | |||
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"Whatever you think about his views he has the right to be left in peace to have a family meal. The people who did this under the name of human rights, equality etc, are frankly fascists under a different banner, they jumped on this particular bandwagon and justify their loutish behaviour as they are caring people when actually the reverse is true. Like several vegan, religious, environment people I know, you couldn't wish to meet a more spiteful, hateful people and would be running the gas ovens at Auschwitz in a previous life. I agree with these comments. I don't agree with a number of UKIP ideas but I think that Farage is a welcome breath of fresh air to the overall political scene. The people who hounded him out of a pub during a family meal are the most dangerous people in society. That is intolerance in action.. I think jumping from a bunch of people who hassle a politician in a pub to Auschwitz commandants, is about as ludicrous as the people who think Nigel farage is the new Hitler. Having at least a commitment to get off your arse and do something about a thing you feel passionate about, whether it's Nigel farage trying to stop excessive immigration or protesters trying to stop him doing it, well at least their trying, everybody else who thinks that strolling down to an election booth once every five years and sticking a cross on a piece paper should shut the fuck up because your apathetic judgemental opinionated attitudes are worth shit, or at least a five minute stroll at most!. I'm personally sick of people who talk the talk but got no commitment either way, I've seen people write that if ukip get in I'm going to emigrate!! WTF if you can't even be arsed getting up from your tv and doing something about something that's going to make you emigrate. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country... I'd suggest some people mull that phrase over! I compare these people to the gas chamber operators at Auschwitz and I stand by that, I reckon they would be very good at it and really make sure their victims suffered to the end and then go home, have tea and play with their kids. Whatever Farages motives are, the subject he raises certain people view as a black and white issue. Such as the people who terrorised his family. They look at it this way for one reason they want an excuse to be assholes, like a football thugs they do it name of their team, same goes for these people who think they're fighting racism, they're not, they're venting spleen and chosen this cause, it could be about anything, take if every cause were to magically disappear, they'd fight about what colour car was right. If Farage was a new Hitler in charge opening the new Dachau, reckon they'd be fighting each other down the job centre to get their black Hugo Boss designed uniform. Its the same with thuggish groups like the UAF, they are no better than the EDL who they oppose. The EDL and the UAF are two sides of the same ugly hate filled coin. "Exactly ! Just like Fascists and Comunists ! | |||
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" Its the same with thuggish groups like the UAF, they are no better than the EDL who they oppose. The EDL and the UAF are two sides of the same ugly hate filled coin. "the difference being that without the EDL/BNP etc the UAF would simply fade away.. If the UAF were to walk away tomorrow the fascists in the EDL/BNP would still continue.. one is a reaction to the other.. and the comments about the death camps and women protesting about some idiots views on breastfeeding are just fucking nonsense.. | |||
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" Its the same with thuggish groups like the UAF, they are no better than the EDL who they oppose. The EDL and the UAF are two sides of the same ugly hate filled coin.
the difference being that without the EDL/BNP etc the UAF would simply fade away..
If the UAF were to walk away tomorrow the fascists in the EDL/BNP would still continue..
one is a reaction to the other..
and the comments about the death camps and women protesting about some idiots views on breastfeeding are just fucking nonsense..
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" Its the same with thuggish groups like the UAF, they are no better than the EDL who they oppose. The EDL and the UAF are two sides of the same ugly hate filled coin. "Seriously? Since when was hating Fascists anything but a rational thing to do? | |||
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" Its the same with thuggish groups like the UAF, they are no better than the EDL who they oppose. The EDL and the UAF are two sides of the same ugly hate filled coin.
Seriously?
Since when was hating Fascists anything but a rational thing to do?"Probably when they started calling anyone who's not left of centre a fascist. | |||
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" Its the same with thuggish groups like the UAF, they are no better than the EDL who they oppose. The EDL and the UAF are two sides of the same ugly hate filled coin.
Seriously?
Since when was hating Fascists anything but a rational thing to do?
Probably when they started calling anyone who's not left of centre a fascist."So.... in your view the EDL and BNP are not Fascists? | |||
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" Its the same with thuggish groups like the UAF, they are no better than the EDL who they oppose. The EDL and the UAF are two sides of the same ugly hate filled coin.
Seriously?
Since when was hating Fascists anything but a rational thing to do?
Probably when they started calling anyone who's not left of centre a fascist.
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" Its the same with thuggish groups like the UAF, they are no better than the EDL who they oppose. The EDL and the UAF are two sides of the same ugly hate filled coin.
Seriously?
Since when was hating Fascists anything but a rational thing to do?
Probably when they started calling anyone who's not left of centre a fascist.
So.... in your view the EDL and BNP are not Fascists?
Did I say that?"Whats your point then, caller? You tend not to see the ANL outside Tory party conference, and they are very right of centre. The labour party are currently right of centre, ditto them... | |||
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" Its the same with thuggish groups like the UAF, they are no better than the EDL who they oppose. The EDL and the UAF are two sides of the same ugly hate filled coin.
Seriously?
Since when was hating Fascists anything but a rational thing to do?
Probably when they started calling anyone who's not left of centre a fascist.
So.... in your view the EDL and BNP are not Fascists?
Did I say that?
Whats your point then, caller?
You tend not to see the ANL outside Tory party conference, and they are very right of centre. The labour party are currently right of centre, ditto them..."Having been to both Tory and Labour conferences I can confirm you are right about ANL (Anti Natzi League) attendance at Labour party conferences but wrong about their attendance at Conservative party conferences. Also the UAF's (Unite Against Fascism) attacks against Trevor Phillips for simply questioning the way racism and multiculturalism has been handled over the last 20 to 30 years does not convince me that they are really interested in any meaningful discussion on the issues. | |||
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