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By *bfoxxx OP   Man
over a year ago

Crete or LANCASTER

1 million sign.

I went to add my signature, and the site wanted £3-00 as a donation.

Oh yeah?

Nice little earner.

I'll have to fry that.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

he is a self absorbed twat....

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Shame the NHS petitions and similar aren't getting as much support. The NHS is of more use to most of us than Clarkson.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"1 million sign.

I went to add my signature, and the site wanted £3-00 as a donation.

Oh yeah?

Nice little earner.

I'll have to fry that."

Its a voluntary Contribution

Gimp

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"1 million sign.

I went to add my signature, and the site wanted £3-00 as a donation.

Oh yeah?

Nice little earner.

I'll have to fry that.

Its a voluntary Contribution

Gimp"

Who does the money go to?

Not that I'll be signing. He is a bulky boy who believe's own hype.

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By *errygTV/TS
over a year ago

denton

clarkson knows if the beeb sack him, he will get a job, no doubt he has had offers already, and his 2 sidekicks will join him, he is already a millionaire and more than likely has investments

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By *bfoxxx OP   Man
over a year ago

Crete or LANCASTER


"he is a self absorbed twat....

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Some say. . .

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By *bfoxxx OP   Man
over a year ago

Crete or LANCASTER


"1 million sign.

I went to add my signature, and the site wanted £3-00 as a donation.

Oh yeah?

Nice little earner.

I'll have to fry that.

Its a voluntary Contribution

Gimp"

I didn't see how to proceed without contribution. ??

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge


"1 million sign.

I went to add my signature, and the site wanted £3-00 as a donation.

Oh yeah?

Nice little earner.

I'll have to fry that.

Its a voluntary Contribution fool and there money easily parted

Gimp

I didn't see how to proceed without contribution. ?? "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"1 million sign.

I went to add my signature, and the site wanted £3-00 as a donation.

Oh yeah?

Nice little earner.

I'll have to fry that.

Its a voluntary Contribution

Gimp

Who does the money go to?

Not that I'll be signing. He is a bulky boy who believe's own hype. "

It goes toward the upkeep of the server space and to advertize the change org website, The Clarkson petition is just one of Hundreds on there.

Gimp

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By *bfoxxx OP   Man
over a year ago

Crete or LANCASTER

We've had all the opinions,likes and dislikes on threads already.

I am just commenting that the petition asks for the quid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"1 million sign.

I went to add my signature, and the site wanted £3-00 as a donation.

Oh yeah?

Nice little earner.

I'll have to fry that.

Its a voluntary Contribution

Gimp

I didn't see how to proceed without contribution. ?? "

Well if you fill it in and then click on Sign it will then say cannot contribute now..no problem.

Gimp

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman
over a year ago

Tenbury Wells

My _iew is this

If he was earning minimum wage and attacked his boss he'd have got the sack

I like the show with him in it because it's a great show

But why should he get better treatment for violent behaviour just because he's famous

So I'll not be adding my name

Bring Noel Edmonds back or Quentin whatever his name is

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"My _iew is this

If he was earning minimum wage and attacked his boss he'd have got the sack

I like the show with him in it because it's a great show

But why should he get better treatment for violent behaviour just because he's famous

So I'll not be adding my name

Bring Noel Edmonds back or Quentin whatever his name is "

Exactly. It all makes me quite sad so many people seem to support him because of his celebrity status. Nothing changes, ever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"he is a self absorbed twat....

Some say. . . "

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman
over a year ago

Tenbury Wells


"My _iew is this

If he was earning minimum wage and attacked his boss he'd have got the sack

I like the show with him in it because it's a great show

But why should he get better treatment for violent behaviour just because he's famous

So I'll not be adding my name

Bring Noel Edmonds back or Quentin whatever his name is

Exactly. It all makes me quite sad so many people seem to support him because of his celebrity status. Nothing changes, ever."

You're quite right

Bad behaviour is bad behaviour if your the village idiot or the king

Let him learn the lesson and some humility

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My _iew is this

If he was earning minimum wage and attacked his boss he'd have got the sack

I like the show with him in it because it's a great show

But why should he get better treatment for violent behaviour just because he's famous

PLEASE any one except for that twat Edmonds

So I'll not be adding my name

Bring Noel Edmonds back or Quentin whatever his name is "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quiten willson does the classic car show on Thursday very good too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quinten

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By (user no longer on site)
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Where does that money from the petition go?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My _iew is this

If he was earning minimum wage and attacked his boss he'd have got the sack

I like the show with him in it because it's a great show

But why should he get better treatment for violent behaviour just because he's famous

So I'll not be adding my name

Bring Noel Edmonds back or Quentin whatever his name is

Exactly. It all makes me quite sad so many people seem to support him because of his celebrity status. Nothing changes, ever."

It makes me quite Sad that because he is a Celebrity so many people have condemned Him before the facts are known.

Innocent until proven guilty whether it be a Pauper or a King

Gimp

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quentin

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By *eovilcouple76Couple
over a year ago

yeovil

Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too. "

Then I'd expect you to be sacked too. Do you often "smack" people when you get cold meat?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

Then I'd expect you to be sacked too. Do you often "smack" people when you get cold meat?"

Yes

But She so does enjoy it

Gimp

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Won't be getting my signature. Can't stand the self obsessed knob!!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

Then I'd expect you to be sacked too. Do you often "smack" people when you get cold meat?

Yes

But She so does enjoy it

Gimp"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Noel Edmonds did it before. Show cancelled

Quentin Wilson did it before. Show cancelled

A lot of people really haven't given it any thought.

The show only works because of the chemistry between the three presenters. People forget that it took several series to get that right.

Dominic Littlewood was one presenter that was let go because it didn't work.

The petition was free to sign, there was a request for a £3 donation to help finance and promote the the site and petition. I signed it and did not pay.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"he is a self absorbed twat....

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By *carineMan
over a year ago

Armthorpe, Doncaster

This is a good thing. It`s been a while since the last accurate Idiot Count.

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too. "

Couldn't agree more!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

Couldn't agree more! "

Most people manage to make, or make arrangements for, their own dinner, even after a hard day at work. It's not like he couldn't afford to go to a restaurant. Perhaps he should have taken the production team who had also done a hard day's work.

He's a spoilt uppity baby.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"1 million sign.

I went to add my signature, and the site wanted £3-00 as a donation.

Oh yeah?

Nice little earner.

I'll have to fry that."

Personnally I like top gear but cannot stand clarkson,he's a 1st class big mouthed numpty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

Couldn't agree more!

Most people manage to make, or make arrangements for, their own dinner, even after a hard day at work. It's not like he couldn't afford to go to a restaurant. Perhaps he should have taken the production team who had also done a hard day's work.

He's a spoilt uppity baby."

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy


"he is a self absorbed twat....

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...but, self-deprecating with it. Which makes it tolerable.

As James May mentioned, the guy is an idiot. But, quite likeable with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Won't be getting my signature. Can't stand the self obsessed knob!!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Won't be getting my signature. Can't stand the self obsessed knob!!"

Lol

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too. "

What a ridiculous attitude. Condoning physical violence when you don't get what you want!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Shame the NHS petitions and similar aren't getting as much support. The NHS is of more use to most of us than Clarkson."

Bur not as entertaining maybe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Shame the NHS petitions and similar aren't getting as much support. The NHS is of more use to most of us than Clarkson."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Shame the NHS petitions and similar aren't getting as much support. The NHS is of more use to most of us than Clarkson.

Bur not as entertaining maybe "

oh i dont know. i'll have a chuckle when someone in casualty tries to say i'd prefer top gear rather than treatment. prime example of society today. rave about "important" stars but think the nhs is a god given right.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"My _iew is this

If he was earning minimum wage and attacked his boss he'd have got the sack

I like the show with him in it because it's a great show

But why should he get better treatment for violent behaviour just because he's famous

So I'll not be adding my name

Bring Noel Edmonds back or Quentin whatever his name is "

This

I'm a fan of Clarkson but, when the full facts are known, it it turns out that he has done what has been alleged then he should be treated in the same way anyone else would.

I won't be signing any petition.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too. "

And if you did you'd almost definitely end up in court for assault at the very least.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"he is a self absorbed twat....

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan


"Shame the NHS petitions and similar aren't getting as much support. The NHS is of more use to most of us than Clarkson.

Bur not as entertaining maybe

oh i dont know. i'll have a chuckle when someone in casualty tries to say i'd prefer top gear rather than treatment. prime example of society today. rave about "important" stars but think the nhs is a god given right."

the NHS should be a god given right. ..unless you want a system of pay for treatment if you can afford it or suffer.

amuses me that all the JC bashers have plenty to say......if you don't like him why watch him? Turn off and go stress about something else.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

What a ridiculous attitude. Condoning physical violence when you don't get what you want!"

Particularly when it's something as minor as a hot meal. Let's face it, it wouldn't have been Jezza's first hot meal in weeks, that he was sooo looking forward to.

What next? Thumping someone because they haven't got quilted toilet roll in the loos?

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

God yes......cant wipe your botty on that shiny stuff...that would deserve a drop kick and a stone cold stunner

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Shame the NHS petitions and similar aren't getting as much support. The NHS is of more use to most of us than Clarkson.

Bur not as entertaining maybe

oh i dont know. i'll have a chuckle when someone in casualty tries to say i'd prefer top gear rather than treatment. prime example of society today. rave about "important" stars but think the nhs is a god given right.

the NHS should be a god given right. ..unless you want a system of pay for treatment if you can afford it or suffer.

amuses me that all the JC bashers have plenty to say......if you don't like him why watch him? Turn off and go stress about something else."

It's not a god given right, it's a service we pay for and which we own, which is being sold off under our noses to make profit for millionaires at our expense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

And if you did you'd almost definitely end up in court for assault at the very least."

Not without a complaint they wouldn't and in Clarkson's case there isn't one. He reported the incident himself.

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

That was my point...probably not put across very well. .....x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not really a good thing that so many people support casual racism that's never well hidden in a snidey remark.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

And if you did you'd almost definitely end up in court for assault at the very least.

Not without a complaint they wouldn't and in Clarkson's case there isn't one. He reported the incident himself. "

Possibly because he anticipated a complaint and was trying to pre-empt matters. He wanted to get the bosses involved before the alleged victim had a chance to see a solicitor.

Just a theory since the facts aren't known.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

Couldn't agree more!

Most people manage to make, or make arrangements for, their own dinner, even after a hard day at work. It's not like he couldn't afford to go to a restaurant. Perhaps he should have taken the production team who had also done a hard day's work.

He's a spoilt uppity baby."
You are not getting this are you. It's a Tv programme filmed on location. Most of the time it is down to the production team to arrange catering for for the talent and crew. If arrangements haven't been made then the member of the production crew responsible will get a bollocking. If that turns into a heated argument things can sometimes go too far. Not condoning it, just stating a fact.

For all we know, the producer may be a stroppy twat that likes antagonising people and pushing them to the limit. This time he may have gone too far and the person he wound up lashed out.

Where I work there are several people like this. One that I know dresses up in stupid fancy dress type costumes and does whatever he can to cause distress to the people around him. He pushes boundaries and invades people's personal space seeing how far he can go. On a few occasions he has ended up getting a slap. He then demands money or he will go to the police.

He is an extreme example but he is not the only one I know like that. Therefore to have a blanket hitting somebody should mean instant dismissal without knowing the FULL mitigating circumstances is wrong.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

And if you did you'd almost definitely end up in court for assault at the very least.

Not without a complaint they wouldn't and in Clarkson's case there isn't one. He reported the incident himself. "

I think you'll find that the police can bring a case these days even if the alleged victim does not wish to press charges or has not even made a complaint. This is in fact quite common these days especially in cases of assault.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This kind of incident happens day in and day out at all kinds of places of work up and down the country. If you put a group if men in a stressful environment sooner or later it will boil over. Most will be resolved with a handshake and a pint, not with a ridiculous enquiry and people getting sacked. It's only gone so far because he is famous, had he been a builder it would have been forgotten about that night and the two men would be taking the piss out of each other the next day

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

Couldn't agree more!

Most people manage to make, or make arrangements for, their own dinner, even after a hard day at work. It's not like he couldn't afford to go to a restaurant. Perhaps he should have taken the production team who had also done a hard day's work.

He's a spoilt uppity baby.You are not getting this are you. It's a Tv programme filmed on location. Most of the time it is down to the production team to arrange catering for for the talent and crew. If arrangements haven't been made then the member of the production crew responsible will get a bollocking. If that turns into a heated argument things can sometimes go too far. Not condoning it, just stating a fact.

For all we know, the producer may be a stroppy twat that likes antagonising people and pushing them to the limit. This time he may have gone too far and the person he wound up lashed out.

Where I work there are several people like this. One that I know dresses up in stupid fancy dress type costumes and does whatever he can to cause distress to the people around him. He pushes boundaries and invades people's personal space seeing how far he can go. On a few occasions he has ended up getting a slap. He then demands money or he will go to the police.

He is an extreme example but he is not the only one I know like that. Therefore to have a blanket hitting somebody should mean instant dismissal without knowing the FULL mitigating circumstances is wrong. "

A bollocking for failing to provide adequate catering is one thing. Being punched, if that is what happened, is another.

Shit happens. Clarkson is a big boy and should be capable of sorting his own dinner occasionally if circumstances require it.

I doubt the location was so remote that there weren't options. They could have been in a hotel for all we know.

He's still a spoilt uppity baby.

Poor little Jezza, after such a long, hard day's work, not having dindins that suited him dished up ready.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

And if you did you'd almost definitely end up in court for assault at the very least.

Not without a complaint they wouldn't and in Clarkson's case there isn't one. He reported the incident himself.

I think you'll find that the police can bring a case these days even if the alleged victim does not wish to press charges or has not even made a complaint. This is in fact quite common these days especially in cases of assault."

Such cases will never get to court, the person may well get arrested and inter_iewed but without a complaint they'll never get charged. But that's another thread altogether

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we will probably never get to hear the full true story - i like top gear - love the banter between the 3 guys and all that - not into the techy side much but it is entertaining - has been for a long time - he does come across as the great I am though - and that i dont like at all - also a lot of youngsters are fans and are now seeing the hoo har on tv - consequences of all of this spread quite far in my eyes

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

Couldn't agree more!

Most people manage to make, or make arrangements for, their own dinner, even after a hard day at work. It's not like he couldn't afford to go to a restaurant. Perhaps he should have taken the production team who had also done a hard day's work.

He's a spoilt uppity baby.You are not getting this are you. It's a Tv programme filmed on location. Most of the time it is down to the production team to arrange catering for for the talent and crew. If arrangements haven't been made then the member of the production crew responsible will get a bollocking. If that turns into a heated argument things can sometimes go too far. Not condoning it, just stating a fact.

For all we know, the producer may be a stroppy twat that likes antagonising people and pushing them to the limit. This time he may have gone too far and the person he wound up lashed out.

Where I work there are several people like this. One that I know dresses up in stupid fancy dress type costumes and does whatever he can to cause distress to the people around him. He pushes boundaries and invades people's personal space seeing how far he can go. On a few occasions he has ended up getting a slap. He then demands money or he will go to the police.

He is an extreme example but he is not the only one I know like that. Therefore to have a blanket hitting somebody should mean instant dismissal without knowing the FULL mitigating circumstances is wrong. "

I don't get it either to be honest. If a footballer,in the heat of play, lashes out everyone beats on about them being role models and being responsible for showing the general public the right way to behave but some jumped up middle aged man who is upset at not having steak for dinner after a day of driving cars around is A-ok for lashing out at someone in a very primadonna fashion?!

As others have said, arrangements were made for his dinner but he didn't like it. He has the available funds to get something else if he fancied it. It was childish and showed him to be the bully he comes across as.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

Couldn't agree more!

Most people manage to make, or make arrangements for, their own dinner, even after a hard day at work. It's not like he couldn't afford to go to a restaurant. Perhaps he should have taken the production team who had also done a hard day's work.

He's a spoilt uppity baby.You are not getting this are you. It's a Tv programme filmed on location. Most of the time it is down to the production team to arrange catering for for the talent and crew. If arrangements haven't been made then the member of the production crew responsible will get a bollocking. If that turns into a heated argument things can sometimes go too far. Not condoning it, just stating a fact.

For all we know, the producer may be a stroppy twat that likes antagonising people and pushing them to the limit. This time he may have gone too far and the person he wound up lashed out.

Where I work there are several people like this. One that I know dresses up in stupid fancy dress type costumes and does whatever he can to cause distress to the people around him. He pushes boundaries and invades people's personal space seeing how far he can go. On a few occasions he has ended up getting a slap. He then demands money or he will go to the police.

He is an extreme example but he is not the only one I know like that. Therefore to have a blanket hitting somebody should mean instant dismissal without knowing the FULL mitigating circumstances is wrong.

A bollocking for failing to provide adequate catering is one thing. Being punched, if that is what happened, is another.

Shit happens. Clarkson is a big boy and should be capable of sorting his own dinner occasionally if circumstances require it.

I doubt the location was so remote that there weren't options. They could have been in a hotel for all we know.

He's still a spoilt uppity baby.

Poor little Jezza, after such a long, hard day's work, not having dindins that suited him dished up ready."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not really a good thing that so many people support casual racism that's never well hidden in a snidey remark. "

Well said

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By *ob and angelaCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

id sack that smug b.....d

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Clarkson has a dreadful attitude towards people he sees as paid to serve him.

He attends an event I know of occasionally and he has the staff - essential to the running of the event and by no means star-struck autograph hunters - instructed not to speak to him unless spoken to first. They're the help and worth less than shit on his shoe. He's known to throw his toys out over any little thing that doesn't go his way.

Prince William attended the same event recently. He made a point of meeting every member of staff afterwards, saying thank you and shaking their hand. (So not-star-struck are these people that some of them didn't know who he was!)

That is the sort of man Clarkson is, and how he regards those he sees as servants. I don't know if the allegations being made are true or not but he's a vile, pompous man who believes his own hype.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Met JC several times and he has never been anything other than charming.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Met JC several times and he has never been anything other than charming. "

Rose tinted glasses perhaps, if you are a fan of his you won't see his flaws.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Met JC several times and he has never been anything other than charming. "

In what capacity? If he was charming he apparently didn't rate you as the help.

When he's away from cameras and publicity his true character comes out and he is not a nice man at all.

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

Couldn't agree more!

Most people manage to make, or make arrangements for, their own dinner, even after a hard day at work. It's not like he couldn't afford to go to a restaurant. Perhaps he should have taken the production team who had also done a hard day's work.

He's a spoilt uppity baby.You are not getting this are you. It's a Tv programme filmed on location. Most of the time it is down to the production team to arrange catering for for the talent and crew. If arrangements haven't been made then the member of the production crew responsible will get a bollocking. If that turns into a heated argument things can sometimes go too far. Not condoning it, just stating a fact.

For all we know, the producer may be a stroppy twat that likes antagonising people and pushing them to the limit. This time he may have gone too far and the person he wound up lashed out.

Where I work there are several people like this. One that I know dresses up in stupid fancy dress type costumes and does whatever he can to cause distress to the people around him. He pushes boundaries and invades people's personal space seeing how far he can go. On a few occasions he has ended up getting a slap. He then demands money or he will go to the police.

He is an extreme example but he is not the only one I know like that. Therefore to have a blanket hitting somebody should mean instant dismissal without knowing the FULL mitigating circumstances is wrong. "

There are no mitigating circumstances for violence in the workplace.

If you cannot control yourself sufficiently to walk away even when/if someone is intentionally antagonising you then you deserve any retribution your contract will demand. Most contracts stipulate that raising a hand to a colleague or client will result in mandatory dismissal.

If, as alleged, Clarkson struck his producer than petition or no he should be dismissed.

In the light of Jimmy Saville getting away with heinous abuse and allegations about Cyril Smith and a whole string of influential people being allowed to continue with abuse and possibly worse by virtue of fame and influence and fear of red faces if someone was wrongly investigated the BBC has a duty of care to be transparent and thorough in there handling of this.

And yes, I am aware that child abuse and possibly murder does not equate to an argument between two grown adults which allegedly descended into one striking the other, but no-one should be immune from investigation.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

Couldn't agree more!

Most people manage to make, or make arrangements for, their own dinner, even after a hard day at work. It's not like he couldn't afford to go to a restaurant. Perhaps he should have taken the production team who had also done a hard day's work.

He's a spoilt uppity baby.You are not getting this are you. It's a Tv programme filmed on location. Most of the time it is down to the production team to arrange catering for for the talent and crew. If arrangements haven't been made then the member of the production crew responsible will get a bollocking. If that turns into a heated argument things can sometimes go too far. Not condoning it, just stating a fact.

For all we know, the producer may be a stroppy twat that likes antagonising people and pushing them to the limit. This time he may have gone too far and the person he wound up lashed out.

Where I work there are several people like this. One that I know dresses up in stupid fancy dress type costumes and does whatever he can to cause distress to the people around him. He pushes boundaries and invades people's personal space seeing how far he can go. On a few occasions he has ended up getting a slap. He then demands money or he will go to the police.

He is an extreme example but he is not the only one I know like that. Therefore to have a blanket hitting somebody should mean instant dismissal without knowing the FULL mitigating circumstances is wrong. "

We have all the facts and in the Court of FabS, he has been found guilty

So take your rational and logical arguments to someone who has a brain. I enjoy being an emotional twat who follows the herd

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

There is no point supporting or condemning Clarkson until the facts are known.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"There is no point supporting or condemning Clarkson until the facts are known. "

Hurrah!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

Couldn't agree more!

Most people manage to make, or make arrangements for, their own dinner, even after a hard day at work. It's not like he couldn't afford to go to a restaurant. Perhaps he should have taken the production team who had also done a hard day's work.

He's a spoilt uppity baby.You are not getting this are you. It's a Tv programme filmed on location. Most of the time it is down to the production team to arrange catering for for the talent and crew. If arrangements haven't been made then the member of the production crew responsible will get a bollocking. If that turns into a heated argument things can sometimes go too far. Not condoning it, just stating a fact.

For all we know, the producer may be a stroppy twat that likes antagonising people and pushing them to the limit. This time he may have gone too far and the person he wound up lashed out.

Where I work there are several people like this. One that I know dresses up in stupid fancy dress type costumes and does whatever he can to cause distress to the people around him. He pushes boundaries and invades people's personal space seeing how far he can go. On a few occasions he has ended up getting a slap. He then demands money or he will go to the police.

He is an extreme example but he is not the only one I know like that. Therefore to have a blanket hitting somebody should mean instant dismissal without knowing the FULL mitigating circumstances is wrong.

There are no mitigating circumstances for violence in the workplace.

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Actually there can be mitigating circumstances for anything, however mitigation would normally only be considered after guilt has been proved. If the mitigating circumstances are sufficient then the punishment may be reduced.


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If you cannot control yourself sufficiently to walk away even when/if someone is intentionally antagonising you then you deserve any retribution your contract will demand. Most contracts stipulate that raising a hand to a colleague or client will result in mandatory dismissal.

If, as alleged, Clarkson struck his producer than petition or no he should be dismissed.

In the light of Jimmy Saville getting away with heinous abuse and allegations about Cyril Smith and a whole string of influential people being allowed to continue with abuse and possibly worse by virtue of fame and influence and fear of red faces if someone was wrongly investigated the BBC has a duty of care to be transparent and thorough in there handling of this.

And yes, I am aware that child abuse and possibly murder does not equate to an argument between two grown adults which allegedly descended into one striking the other, but no-one should be immune from investigation."

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"There is no point supporting or condemning Clarkson until the facts are known.

Hurrah! "

And there was light.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

Couldn't agree more!

Most people manage to make, or make arrangements for, their own dinner, even after a hard day at work. It's not like he couldn't afford to go to a restaurant. Perhaps he should have taken the production team who had also done a hard day's work.

He's a spoilt uppity baby.You are not getting this are you. It's a Tv programme filmed on location. Most of the time it is down to the production team to arrange catering for for the talent and crew. If arrangements haven't been made then the member of the production crew responsible will get a bollocking. If that turns into a heated argument things can sometimes go too far. Not condoning it, just stating a fact.

For all we know, the producer may be a stroppy twat that likes antagonising people and pushing them to the limit. This time he may have gone too far and the person he wound up lashed out.

Where I work there are several people like this. One that I know dresses up in stupid fancy dress type costumes and does whatever he can to cause distress to the people around him. He pushes boundaries and invades people's personal space seeing how far he can go. On a few occasions he has ended up getting a slap. He then demands money or he will go to the police.

He is an extreme example but he is not the only one I know like that. Therefore to have a blanket hitting somebody should mean instant dismissal without knowing the FULL mitigating circumstances is wrong.

We have all the facts and in the Court of FabS, he has been found guilty

So take your rational and logical arguments to someone who has a brain. I enjoy being an emotional twat who follows the herd"

PMSFL

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

How is it logical or reasonable to say because the 'talent' wasn't happy they had the right to throw their dollies out of their pram?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's made millions out of public money, which makes him all but a public servant, so why shouldn't the public have a hire him/fire him opinion?

Besides, public servants behaving badly, in Clarkson's very own opinion, - "should be lined up & shot in front of their families!"

For once I agree with the trumped up snob!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

Whether Clarkson is the biggest shit in the world or the nicest person not yet in heaven is totally irrelevant.

When the facts are known a judgment can be made on his guilt or otherwise. If it's found from the facts there is no case to answer then that will be the end of it. If there is a case to answer then he will have to answer for it. If he is found to be guilty of either an offence in law or action inappropriate to is contact then any mitigating circumstances will be considered and an appropriate punishment given. Until all of this process has been gone through no one can really say, with any integrity, whether his treatment is fair, over lenient or over server.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whether Clarkson is the biggest shit in the world or the nicest person not yet in heaven is totally irrelevant.

When the facts are known a judgment can be made on his guilt or otherwise. If it's found from the facts there is no case to answer then that will be the end of it. If there is a case to answer then he will have to answer for it. If he is found to be guilty of either an offence in law or action inappropriate to is contact then any mitigating circumstances will be considered and an appropriate punishment given. Until all of this process has been gone through no one can really say, with any integrity, whether his treatment is fair, over lenient or over server."

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You all realize of course this is publicity for him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's made millions out of public money, which makes him all but a public servant, so why shouldn't the public have a hire him/fire him opinion?

Besides, public servants behaving badly, in Clarkson's very own opinion, - "should be lined up & shot in front of their families!"

Actually the show in it's current format which he developed makes the bbc about 50 million a year, so the millions he has made have been paid back in revenue many times over

For once I agree with the trumped up snob! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have never met him in front of the cameras, the majority of times he has been in the street, not while working. I am loving all the comments about him throwing his dummy out of the pram about not being fed. I bet all of these people have been quite happy to work all day and not have a break of any kind. None of these people ever complain about their unreasonable boss or not getting the service they have paid for in a shop. All of them meekly walk away and say nothing when they have right royally been shafted. None of them have ever had a cross word with a work colleague, been pissed off my a superior or even been cut up when driving their car. Nobody blocks box junctions, had unprotected sex, or gets abusive messages and blocks people

Because everyone here lives in fabworld and not The real world.

In the real world shit happens and people have to deal with it. Sometimes that ends up in tribunals or courts. Then the case is dealt with based on facts, not on whether the person is likeable or not and certainly not on anything they may have said or not in the past.

None of us know all the facts but many are prepared to convict purely down to prejudices.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Complaining is reasonable, I'll give you that but he didn't just complain did he? By his own admission it was more than that.

I have worked long days, on my feet all day etc etc and not once have I even threatened to hit people because of it. Let's face it, driving cars for a tv shoe is hardly comparable to real life jobs where you get no breaks etc is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He's made millions out of public money, which makes him all but a public servant, so why shouldn't the public have a hire him/fire him opinion?

Besides, public servants behaving badly, in Clarkson's very own opinion, - "should be lined up & shot in front of their families!"

For once I agree with the trumped up snob! "

You've mis-quoted him just like the Daily Mail did.

When you listen to the full clip/quote he said when asked about the strikes at the BBC. Paraphrased..

"I fully support them and I hope they get what they want..

But, this being the BBC I have to be impartial and offer another _iew, in which case I'd take them outside and shoot them in front of their families"

It was a joke, not his personal _iew.

As for his future, I'm sure it will be a bright one, he's very hard-working and well liked.

I guess we'll find out if he's guilty of punching someone next week....

Until then I'll reserve my judgment just like everyone else should...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

he didn't just complain, he ended up in an argument and you don't have a clue about what was said to him to provoke him to act like that, for all anyone knows the producer may have said something along the lines of "shut up and sit down before I put you down"

It was a fracas, that suggests more than just shouting in a heated argument, the producer may have looked like he was raising his arm to strike and Clarkson hit him first. From the description I have had I certainly doubt that the producer was all meek and mild and cowering away like a frightened mouse because if he was, the situation would not have escalated. There are two sides and as shown on yesterday's meltdown thread both sides need to be heard before anyone can judge.

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By *bfoxxx OP   Man
over a year ago

Crete or LANCASTER


"Quiten willson does the classic car show on Thursday very good too"

No, sorry.

I find it completely boring.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"he didn't just complain, he ended up in an argument and you don't have a clue about what was said to him to provoke him to act like that, for all anyone knows the producer may have said something along the lines of "shut up and sit down before I put you down"

It was a fracas, that suggests more than just shouting in a heated argument, the producer may have looked like he was raising his arm to strike and Clarkson hit him first. From the description I have had I certainly doubt that the producer was all meek and mild and cowering away like a frightened mouse because if he was, the situation would not have escalated. There are two sides and as shown on yesterday's meltdown thread both sides need to be heard before anyone can judge. "

Hang about...you have no clue either. Why is your opinion on the subject more correct than mine, because you've seen him in the street a couple of times? Quite a lot of assumption in your post.

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By *isexmistressWoman
over a year ago

Prestwich

TRUE STOREY ABOUT CLARKSON ..

So he accepts delivery of a new F70 which sits in his garage a while before using it and when he goes to turn it over for the first time,it wont start..

So,knowing everything there is to know about cars,he thinks `flat battery` and opens up the hood to jump start it..

After ages pondering how magnificent the engine looks,pulling a few things apart,uncovering things,he cant find the battery for life or money..

Accepting defeat,he goes to the provided manual,which still offers no indication of how (or where from) to jump start the battery..

So now admitting total defeat , he phones the Ferrari dealearship and gets a machenic to guide him thru this minefield..

Cant be too hard surely,to recharge a battery // jumpstart a car,surely..

Some several hours into this , it transpires the battery is in an unreachable place,UNDER the engine ,and can only be charged @ the dealers...

So,he DOESNT know everything about cars tho he likes to sound too.

I dont mind him in small doses.He is witty,intelligent but FFS once you have heard him 15 times,its like you have heard him 500 times..

Gets a bit samey,a bit predictable,like a one trick pony or record that needs changing.

I cant abide a man with bad manners .. anyone who threatens someone else is a bit of a moron in my eyes,a bully, obnoxious...

I can only think the 1m people who supported this petition gave little thought to the poor guy on the end of Clarkson`s vitriolic tirade..He is the one who should be being supported.

I wish i had been witness to his 40 minute tirade so I could have said to him to stop being so tiresome,to grow up,and show some manners and respect...Something his producer wouldnt be able to do under the circumstances..

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over a year ago


"TRUE STOREY ABOUT CLARKSON ..

So he accepts delivery of a new F70 which sits in his garage a while before using it and when he goes to turn it over for the first time,it wont start..

So,knowing everything there is to know about cars,he thinks `flat battery` and opens up the hood to jump start it..

After ages pondering how magnificent the engine looks,pulling a few things apart,uncovering things,he cant find the battery for life or money..

Accepting defeat,he goes to the provided manual,which still offers no indication of how (or where from) to jump start the battery..

So now admitting total defeat , he phones the Ferrari dealearship and gets a machenic to guide him thru this minefield..

Cant be too hard surely,to recharge a battery // jumpstart a car,surely..

Some several hours into this , it transpires the battery is in an unreachable place,UNDER the engine ,and can only be charged @ the dealers...

So,he DOESNT know everything about cars tho he likes to sound too.

I dont mind him in small doses.He is witty,intelligent but FFS once you have heard him 15 times,its like you have heard him 500 times..

Gets a bit samey,a bit predictable,like a one trick pony or record that needs changing.

I cant abide a man with bad manners .. anyone who threatens someone else is a bit of a moron in my eyes,a bully, obnoxious...

I can only think the 1m people who supported this petition gave little thought to the poor guy on the end of Clarkson`s vitriolic tirade..He is the one who should be being supported.

I wish i had been witness to his 40 minute tirade so I could have said to him to stop being so tiresome,to grow up,and show some manners and respect...Something his producer wouldnt be able to do under the circumstances..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"he didn't just complain, he ended up in an argument and you don't have a clue about what was said to him to provoke him to act like that, for all anyone knows the producer may have said something along the lines of "shut up and sit down before I put you down"

It was a fracas, that suggests more than just shouting in a heated argument, the producer may have looked like he was raising his arm to strike and Clarkson hit him first. From the description I have had I certainly doubt that the producer was all meek and mild and cowering away like a frightened mouse because if he was, the situation would not have escalated. There are two sides and as shown on yesterday's meltdown thread both sides need to be heard before anyone can judge.

Hang about...you have no clue either. Why is your opinion on the subject more correct than mine, because you've seen him in the street a couple of times? Quite a lot of assumption in your post.

"

You have a big opinion on the rights and wrongs of the case without knowing the evidence

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"he didn't just complain, he ended up in an argument and you don't have a clue about what was said to him to provoke him to act like that, for all anyone knows the producer may have said something along the lines of "shut up and sit down before I put you down"

It was a fracas, that suggests more than just shouting in a heated argument, the producer may have looked like he was raising his arm to strike and Clarkson hit him first. From the description I have had I certainly doubt that the producer was all meek and mild and cowering away like a frightened mouse because if he was, the situation would not have escalated. There are two sides and as shown on yesterday's meltdown thread both sides need to be heard before anyone can judge.

Hang about...you have no clue either. Why is your opinion on the subject more correct than mine, because you've seen him in the street a couple of times? Quite a lot of assumption in your post.

You have a big opinion on the rights and wrongs of the case without knowing the evidence"

we both do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"TRUE STOREY ABOUT CLARKSON ..

So he accepts delivery of a new F70 which sits in his garage a while before using it and when he goes to turn it over for the first time,it wont start..

So,knowing everything there is to know about cars,he thinks `flat battery` and opens up the hood to jump start it..

After ages pondering how magnificent the engine looks,pulling a few things apart,uncovering things,he cant find the battery for life or money..

Accepting defeat,he goes to the provided manual,which still offers no indication of how (or where from) to jump start the battery..

So now admitting total defeat , he phones the Ferrari dealearship and gets a machenic to guide him thru this minefield..

Cant be too hard surely,to recharge a battery // jumpstart a car,surely..

Some several hours into this , it transpires the battery is in an unreachable place,UNDER the engine ,and can only be charged @ the dealers...

So,he DOESNT know everything about cars tho he likes to sound too.

I dont mind him in small doses.He is witty,intelligent but FFS once you have heard him 15 times,its like you have heard him 500 times..

Gets a bit samey,a bit predictable,like a one trick pony or record that needs changing.

I cant abide a man with bad manners .. anyone who threatens someone else is a bit of a moron in my eyes,a bully, obnoxious...

I can only think the 1m people who supported this petition gave little thought to the poor guy on the end of Clarkson`s vitriolic tirade..He is the one who should be being supported.

I wish i had been witness to his 40 minute tirade so I could have said to him to stop being so tiresome,to grow up,and show some manners and respect...Something his producer wouldnt be able to do under the circumstances..

"

Yes always said he's not mechanically minded and has troubkenchanging a light bulb, he's never claimed to know everything about cars.

Especially the F70, which he doesn't and never has owned...

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"he didn't just complain, he ended up in an argument and you don't have a clue about what was said to him to provoke him to act like that, for all anyone knows the producer may have said something along the lines of "shut up and sit down before I put you down"

It was a fracas, that suggests more than just shouting in a heated argument, the producer may have looked like he was raising his arm to strike and Clarkson hit him first. From the description I have had I certainly doubt that the producer was all meek and mild and cowering away like a frightened mouse because if he was, the situation would not have escalated. There are two sides and as shown on yesterday's meltdown thread both sides need to be heard before anyone can judge.

Hang about...you have no clue either. Why is your opinion on the subject more correct than mine, because you've seen him in the street a couple of times? Quite a lot of assumption in your post.

You have a big opinion on the rights and wrongs of the case without knowing the evidence"

As for you, it would seem. Of course you may have been there given your vehement defence of this situation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am not saying he is guilty or innocent

I am not the one saying he should be sacked without hearing the evidence

I am not the one saying sack him purely because I don't like the personality he portrays on a tv programme.

I am not saying saying that if after the outcome of the investigation he is found to have done something wrong that he should not be punished either.

Far too many people who claim to be reasonable people are desperate for a witch hunt

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

i've never said sack him, just that he should face consequences for what he has done (and admitted he has done) and pointed out that it is not ok for him to do it just because he is Jeremy Clarkson which is what a lot of the defense seems to say.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"he didn't just complain, he ended up in an argument and you don't have a clue about what was said to him to provoke him to act like that, for all anyone knows the producer may have said something along the lines of "shut up and sit down before I put you down"

It was a fracas, that suggests more than just shouting in a heated argument, the producer may have looked like he was raising his arm to strike and Clarkson hit him first. From the description I have had I certainly doubt that the producer was all meek and mild and cowering away like a frightened mouse because if he was, the situation would not have escalated. There are two sides and as shown on yesterday's meltdown thread both sides need to be heard before anyone can judge. "

My comments on appropriate action have said *if* he is guilty of what has been alleged.

Whether he's liked or not has, or should have, no bearing on the outcome. That's exactly the point some are making. IF he's guilty, he shouldn't get away with it, or get off lightly, because he's a popular presenter.

Stating the opinion he's a jumped up, spoilt, crybaby and I don't like him, and why, is no different to all the people on here supporting him and saying they like him/find him entertaining/signed the petition. If one is valid, so is the other.

My comments on his true nature are

to make the point that I can well believe he lashed out over something minor, with little or no provocation, against someone he _iewed as massively inferior to him.

And where has it been reported that JC had filmed all day with no breaks at all? For someone declaring we need to know the facts, you seem to have stated quite a lot of "facts" with no apparent basis.

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By *isexmistressWoman
over a year ago

Prestwich


"TRUE STOREY ABOUT CLARKSON ..

So he accepts delivery of a new F70 which sits in his garage a while before using it and when he goes to turn it over for the first time,it wont start..

So,knowing everything there is to know about cars,he thinks `flat battery` and opens up the hood to jump start it..

After ages pondering how magnificent the engine looks,pulling a few things apart,uncovering things,he cant find the battery for life or money..

Accepting defeat,he goes to the provided manual,which still offers no indication of how (or where from) to jump start the battery..

So now admitting total defeat , he phones the Ferrari dealearship and gets a machenic to guide him thru this minefield..

Cant be too hard surely,to recharge a battery // jumpstart a car,surely..

Some several hours into this , it transpires the battery is in an unreachable place,UNDER the engine ,and can only be charged @ the dealers...

So,he DOESNT know everything about cars tho he likes to sound too.

I dont mind him in small doses.He is witty,intelligent but FFS once you have heard him 15 times,its like you have heard him 500 times..

Gets a bit samey,a bit predictable,like a one trick pony or record that needs changing.

I cant abide a man with bad manners .. anyone who threatens someone else is a bit of a moron in my eyes,a bully, obnoxious...

I can only think the 1m people who supported this petition gave little thought to the poor guy on the end of Clarkson`s vitriolic tirade..He is the one who should be being supported.

I wish i had been witness to his 40 minute tirade so I could have said to him to stop being so tiresome,to grow up,and show some manners and respect...Something his producer wouldnt be able to do under the circumstances..

Yes always said he's not mechanically minded and has troubkchanging a light bulb, he's never claimed to know everything about cars.

Especially the F70, which he doesn't and never has owned..."

Whether owned or not, he definately accepted delivery of one..

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

tho i enjoy topgear ..he is a massive wanker so dont think he should come back ..big fucking bully .

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Saw a massive tank arrive at the BBC headquarters yesterday on the news, (with the stig on top), to deliver the 1 million signature petition. Wonder what the BBC bosses though of that little stunt.

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By *isexmistressWoman
over a year ago

Prestwich


"tho i enjoy topgear ..he is a massive wanker so dont think he should come back ..big fucking bully ."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Won't be getting my signature. Can't stand the self obsessed knob!!"

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"tho i enjoy topgear ..he is a massive wanker so dont think he should come back ..big fucking bully ."

Top Gear without Clarkson would be shit, don't think i will continue to watch it if he goes. Will probably morph into a politically correct boring 5th gear type programme.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It has been reported that he was filming in Surrey all day with no catering available. It was also reported that filming in Surrey ran late due to hold ups caused by not enough producers being there. It was also reported that they went straight from Surrey to Yorkshire by helicopter, a journey which took two and a half hours. During this journey James May is reported to have had drank a bottle of wine while Clarkson continued to work on his script for the following day. It is reported that some cold meats were laid on. It was reported that this was because the kitchen was closed.

After that an argument ensued between JC and Oisin Tymon.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"he didn't just complain, he ended up in an argument and you don't have a clue about what was said to him to provoke him to act like that, for all anyone knows the producer may have said something along the lines of "shut up and sit down before I put you down"

It was a fracas, that suggests more than just shouting in a heated argument, the producer may have looked like he was raising his arm to strike and Clarkson hit him first. From the description I have had I certainly doubt that the producer was all meek and mild and cowering away like a frightened mouse because if he was, the situation would not have escalated. There are two sides and as shown on yesterday's meltdown thread both sides need to be heard before anyone can judge.

My comments on appropriate action have said *if* he is guilty of what has been alleged.

Whether he's liked or not has, or should have, no bearing on the outcome. That's exactly the point some are making. IF he's guilty, he shouldn't get away with it, or get off lightly, because he's a popular presenter.

Stating the opinion he's a jumped up, spoilt, crybaby and I don't like him, and why, is no different to all the people on here supporting him and saying they like him/find him entertaining/signed the petition. If one is valid, so is the other.

My comments on his true nature are

to make the point that I can well believe he lashed out over something minor, with little or no provocation, against someone he _iewed as massively inferior to him.

And where has it been reported that JC had filmed all day with no breaks at all? For someone declaring we need to know the facts, you seem to have stated quite a lot of "facts" with no apparent basis."

*If* he has committed murder and *if* he is found guilty of said murder in a Court of law in a land where the penalty for murder is death, then he sould be hanged, shot, etc.

He is most probably capable of commiting murder since he is wealthy, perceived big slob, perceived prat, perceived bully by some, therefore I say that cut short the offence or the trial and lets just hang him

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"he didn't just complain, he ended up in an argument and you don't have a clue about what was said to him to provoke him to act like that, for all anyone knows the producer may have said something along the lines of "shut up and sit down before I put you down"

It was a fracas, that suggests more than just shouting in a heated argument, the producer may have looked like he was raising his arm to strike and Clarkson hit him first. From the description I have had I certainly doubt that the producer was all meek and mild and cowering away like a frightened mouse because if he was, the situation would not have escalated. There are two sides and as shown on yesterday's meltdown thread both sides need to be heard before anyone can judge.

My comments on appropriate action have said *if* he is guilty of what has been alleged.

Whether he's liked or not has, or should have, no bearing on the outcome. That's exactly the point some are making. IF he's guilty, he shouldn't get away with it, or get off lightly, because he's a popular presenter.

Stating the opinion he's a jumped up, spoilt, crybaby and I don't like him, and why, is no different to all the people on here supporting him and saying they like him/find him entertaining/signed the petition. If one is valid, so is the other.

My comments on his true nature are

to make the point that I can well believe he lashed out over something minor, with little or no provocation, against someone he _iewed as massively inferior to him.

And where has it been reported that JC had filmed all day with no breaks at all? For someone declaring we need to know the facts, you seem to have stated quite a lot of "facts" with no apparent basis.

*If* he has committed murder and *if* he is found guilty of said murder in a Court of law in a land where the penalty for murder is death, then he sould be hanged, shot, etc.

He is most probably capable of commiting murder since he is wealthy, perceived big slob, perceived prat, perceived bully by some, therefore I say that cut short the offence or the trial and lets just hang him"

Excellent plan

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford


"tho i enjoy topgear ..he is a massive wanker so dont think he should come back ..big fucking bully .

Top Gear without Clarkson would be shit, don't think i will continue to watch it if he goes. Will probably morph into a politically correct boring 5th gear type programme. "

but the other 2 are still entertaining so i think it will be ok ..im sure they could find someone with less of an ego to take over

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By *he nicknameMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Can't see why anyone would like him or the show.

Except middle aged men, with middle aged spreads who feel at ease looking at him. Or very young boys who like playing with toys.

Anyone could present that show. None of the presenters are attractive. Dull as dishwater.

Can't they get some of the former big brother contestants who might be struggling for tv work to replace him?

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By *IDNIGHTMADNESSMan
over a year ago

Nr Exeter


"Won't be getting my signature. Can't stand the self obsessed knob!!"

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"Can't see why anyone would like him or the show.

Except middle aged men, with middle aged spreads who feel at ease looking at him. Or very young boys who like playing with toys.

Anyone could present that show. None of the presenters are attractive. Dull as dishwater.

Can't they get some of the former big brother contestants who might be struggling for tv work to replace him? "

As a middle aged man with a middle aged spread, I like him and the programme

Can't say I watch it all the time as I am usually down the pub with the lads for a pint and a curry, ogling at all the women on their way to their gym and when they don't give us lads the time of day, labelling them as "dykes"

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS
over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

i think you'll find that all kinds of people watch it ..unlike Big Brother which i imagine is watched by people that have no life of their own..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"TRUE STOREY ABOUT CLARKSON ..

So he accepts delivery of a new F70 which sits in his garage a while before using it and when he goes to turn it over for the first time,it wont start..

So,knowing everything there is to know about cars,he thinks `flat battery` and opens up the hood to jump start it..

After ages pondering how magnificent the engine looks,pulling a few things apart,uncovering things,he cant find the battery for life or money..

Accepting defeat,he goes to the provided manual,which still offers no indication of how (or where from) to jump start the battery..

So now admitting total defeat , he phones the Ferrari dealearship and gets a machenic to guide him thru this minefield..

Cant be too hard surely,to recharge a battery // jumpstart a car,surely..

Some several hours into this , it transpires the battery is in an unreachable place,UNDER the engine ,and can only be charged @ the dealers...

So,he DOESNT know everything about cars tho he likes to sound too.

I dont mind him in small doses.He is witty,intelligent but FFS once you have heard him 15 times,its like you have heard him 500 times..

Gets a bit samey,a bit predictable,like a one trick pony or record that needs changing.

I cant abide a man with bad manners .. anyone who threatens someone else is a bit of a moron in my eyes,a bully, obnoxious...

I can only think the 1m people who supported this petition gave little thought to the poor guy on the end of Clarkson`s vitriolic tirade..He is the one who should be being supported.

I wish i had been witness to his 40 minute tirade so I could have said to him to stop being so tiresome,to grow up,and show some manners and respect...Something his producer wouldnt be able to do under the circumstances..

Yes always said he's not mechanically minded and has troubkchanging a light bulb, he's never claimed to know everything about cars.

Especially the F70, which he doesn't and never has owned...

Whether owned or not, he definately accepted delivery of one.."

He hasn't.

I'll let you into a secret. The story is about his old Ferrari 355, he wrote about it in one of his books.

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By *aula.ceciliaWoman
over a year ago

Cheltenham

This man is out of control and is baiting the BBC and if he gets away with this he will consider himself untouchable,,,, Mmmmmmmmmm who else thought himself untouchable, though far more sinister.

No-one is too big to be censured,, and no-one is indispensable.

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By *bfoxxx OP   Man
over a year ago

Crete or LANCASTER

Well done to everyone who posted totally irrelevant comments.

The rights and wrongs,

likes and dislikes thing was done days ago when the story was News.

The thread was really about my surprise at being asked for a £3-00 donation to join the petition.

No way am I contributing, for what?

Clarkson can support himself, and the money doesn't go to a worthy cause.

Meanwhile I've given out my email and bank details.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well done to everyone who posted totally irrelevant comments.

The rights and wrongs,

likes and dislikes thing was done days ago when the story was News.

The thread was really about my surprise at being asked for a £3-00 donation to join the petition.

No way am I contributing, for what?

Clarkson can support himself, and the money doesn't go to a worthy cause.

Meanwhile I've given out my email and bank details. "

Think you should have used a different thread title then if you wanted to avoid a Clarkson debate

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"The thread was really about my surprise at being asked for a £3-00 donation to join the petition."

Your post was answered though. There wasn't that much to say about it. As pointed out, it's a voluntary donation.


"No way am I contributing, for what?"

To contribute towards the running costs of the site that allows people to start and sign petitions.

Hosting and bandwidth are not free and for popular sites with a lot of traffic, the costs can be high.


"Clarkson can support himself, and the money doesn't go to a worthy cause."

Apparently you haven't read the answers. The money doesn't go to Clarkson.

If you support the concept of sites existing for people to start petitions and support causes they care about, is keeping such sites running not a good cause? If you use a 'free' service, why shouldn't you consider making a small contribution to the costs of providing it?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Well done to everyone who posted totally irrelevant comments.

The rights and wrongs,

likes and dislikes thing was done days ago when the story was News.

The thread was really about my surprise at being asked for a £3-00 donation to join the petition.

No way am I contributing, for what?

Clarkson can support himself, and the money doesn't go to a worthy cause.

Meanwhile I've given out my email and bank details.

Think you should have used a different thread title then if you wanted to avoid a Clarkson debate "

Agreed.

Plus the OP is very easily answered and isn't much to actually debate.

It's a voluntary contribution and the money goes to help fund the site, not to Clarkson.

There's not much more to say.

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By *bfoxxx OP   Man
over a year ago

Crete or LANCASTER


"Well done to everyone who posted totally irrelevant comments.

The rights and wrongs,

likes and dislikes thing was done days ago when the story was News.

The thread was really about my surprise at being asked for a £3-00 donation to join the petition.

No way am I contributing, for what?

Clarkson can support himself, and the money doesn't go to a worthy cause.

Meanwhile I've given out my email and bank details.

Think you should have used a different thread title then if you wanted to avoid a Clarkson debate "

Comprehension.

Look it up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where would radio phone ins and the internet be today without people in possecian of half the facts weighing in with their sixpence worth?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Well done to everyone who posted totally irrelevant comments.

The rights and wrongs,

likes and dislikes thing was done days ago when the story was News.

The thread was really about my surprise at being asked for a £3-00 donation to join the petition.

No way am I contributing, for what?

Clarkson can support himself, and the money doesn't go to a worthy cause.

Meanwhile I've given out my email and bank details.

Think you should have used a different thread title then if you wanted to avoid a Clarkson debate

Comprehension.

Look it up."

There's no need for that.

Your OP was answered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too.

And if you did you'd almost definitely end up in court for assault at the very least.

Not without a complaint they wouldn't and in Clarkson's case there isn't one. He reported the incident himself.

I think you'll find that the police can bring a case these days even if the alleged victim does not wish to press charges or has not even made a complaint. This is in fact quite common these days especially in cases of assault.

Such cases will never get to court, the person may well get arrested and inter_iewed but without a complaint they'll never get charged. But that's another thread altogether "

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"Where would radio phone ins and the internet be today without people in possecian of half the facts weighing in with their sixpence worth?"

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Well done to everyone who posted totally irrelevant comments.

The rights and wrongs,

likes and dislikes thing was done days ago when the story was News.

The thread was really about my surprise at being asked for a £3-00 donation to join the petition.

No way am I contributing, for what?

Clarkson can support himself, and the money doesn't go to a worthy cause.

Meanwhile I've given out my email and bank details.

Think you should have used a different thread title then if you wanted to avoid a Clarkson debate

Comprehension.

Look it up."

And if you'd have read all of the replies you'd have learnt that the money goes to the website for server upkeep or something similar. It doesn't go to Clarkson.

I'm sure you always stick rigidly to all posts and never post tangents on any right? Although technically discussing the subject matter of the petition you wanted to sign isn't really that much of a tangent is it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Think you should have used a different thread title then if you wanted to avoid a Clarkson debate

Comprehension.

Look it up."

'The ability to understand something'

So i will say it again for you to comprehend.. if you didn't want a Clarkson debate why even mention him??

You could have had an opening post along the lines of: 'Fancy that, trying to do my bit for a cause by signing an online petition and getting asked to contribute £3 for the privilege.. cheeky feckers'

:

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Can't see why anyone would like him or the show.

"

Yes you can see why. You'll even be telling us why in a moment.


"

Except middle aged men, with middle aged spreads who feel at ease looking at him.

"

See, you knew why all along.

Yep, I'm guilty as charged on that score.


"

Or very young boys who like playing with toys.

Anyone could present that show. None of the presenters are attractive. Dull as dishwater.

Can't they get some of the former big brother contestants who might be struggling for tv work to replace him? "

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By *onkersMan
over a year ago

livingston


"Personally I like him. I like the show and I find it rather entertaining compared to all the reality shite that is rammed down our throats all the time.

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech.

If I'd been working all day and was expecting a nice meal, and someone brought me a cold meat platter, I'd probably smack them too. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Way to get your priorities right sheople of Britain!

Much more important issues to deal with than that egotistical twat!

Just my humble opinion of course

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But this thread isn't about egotistical people, this thread is about people that don't understand that democracy comes with a price and the price in this case is a voluntary donation of £3 to keep a worthy cause going.

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By *ouble CCouple
over a year ago

Gran Canaria


"Shame the NHS petitions and similar aren't getting as much support. The NHS is of more use to most of us than Clarkson."

Preach!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"But this thread isn't about egotistical people, this thread is about people that don't understand that democracy comes with a price and the price in this case is a voluntary donation of £3 to keep a worthy cause going. "

Or an unworthy cause, depending on one's point of _iew.

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By *isexmistressWoman
over a year ago

Prestwich


"TRUE STOREY ABOUT CLARKSON ..

So he accepts delivery of a new F70 which sits in his garage a while before using it and when he goes to turn it over for the first time,it wont start..

So,knowing everything there is to know about cars,he thinks `flat battery` and opens up the hood to jump start it..

After ages pondering how magnificent the engine looks,pulling a few things apart,uncovering things,he cant find the battery for life or money..

Accepting defeat,he goes to the provided manual,which still offers no indication of how (or where from) to jump start the battery..

So now admitting total defeat , he phones the Ferrari dealearship and gets a machenic to guide him thru this minefield..

Cant be too hard surely,to recharge a battery // jumpstart a car,surely..

Some several hours into this , it transpires the battery is in an unreachable place,UNDER the engine ,and can only be charged @ the dealers...

So,he DOESNT know everything about cars tho he likes to sound too.

I dont mind him in small doses.He is witty,intelligent but FFS once you have heard him 15 times,its like you have heard him 500 times..

Gets a bit samey,a bit predictable,like a one trick pony or record that needs changing.

I cant abide a man with bad manners .. anyone who threatens someone else is a bit of a moron in my eyes,a bully, obnoxious...

I can only think the 1m people who supported this petition gave little thought to the poor guy on the end of Clarkson`s vitriolic tirade..He is the one who should be being supported.

I wish i had been witness to his 40 minute tirade so I could have said to him to stop being so tiresome,to grow up,and show some manners and respect...Something his producer wouldnt be able to do under the circumstances..

Yes always said he's not mechanically minded and has troubkchanging a light bulb, he's never claimed to know everything about cars.

Especially the F70, which he doesn't and never has owned...

Whether owned or not, he definately accepted delivery of one..

He hasn't.

I'll let you into a secret. The story is about his old Ferrari 355, he wrote about it in one of his books."

Same story,different car... does it really matter ffs.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"But this thread isn't about egotistical people, this thread is about people that don't understand that democracy comes with a price and the price in this case is a voluntary donation of £3 to keep a worthy cause going.

Or an unworthy cause, depending on one's point of _iew."

How is a petition website a worthy cause anyway?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"But this thread isn't about egotistical people, this thread is about people that don't understand that democracy comes with a price and the price in this case is a voluntary donation of £3 to keep a worthy cause going.

Or an unworthy cause, depending on one's point of _iew.

How is a petition website a worthy cause anyway? "

I think he means that the petition itself and the publicising of it is a cause worth supporting.

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By *gNeMan
over a year ago

Harrogate

It's crazy that people are giving this so much attention. Meanwhile his mate David Cameron is making deals to privatise the NHS! All the while the pair of them are getting very rich and laughing at us all..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"he is a self absorbed twat....

"

Totally agree.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

It is funny reading this and other threads on Clarkson.

They all read the same.

On one side you have the Clarkson fans who love the program and think the sun shines out of his arse. On the other you have the haters who want him out no matter what. In the centre you have a group that say I cant hit anyone at work and expect to get away with it, why should he?

Does anyone other than me see the elephant in the room?

Clarkson makes the BBC over £50 million a year, why was some jumped up little twat allowed lose us £50 million a year because he failed to make sure that the money earner had a hot meal at the end of a days work? Why did none of the other hangers on not shift the prick who was winding Clarkson up out of it?

At what point will the BBC governors be held to account for destroying such a valuable asset?

And now a question for all those who think he should be sacked...

If you had a primadonna who earned you £50 million a year would you treat them the same way as you treat the cleaner on minimum wage or would you pander to their every whim?

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts


"

If you had a primadonna who earned you £50 million a year would you treat them the same way as you treat the cleaner on minimum wage or would you pander to their every whim?"

So I guess people aren't equal to you; it just depends on how useful they are as to how you value an individual.

How would you feel if the star performer in your place, or any business you visit thumped you? Would you be ok about it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this to make sure he doesn't return to top gear? I will sign lol

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"

If you had a primadonna who earned you £50 million a year would you treat them the same way as you treat the cleaner on minimum wage or would you pander to their every whim?

So I guess people aren't equal to you; it just depends on how useful they are as to how you value an individual.

How would you feel if the star performer in your place, or any business you visit thumped you? Would you be ok about it? "

I would not be happy...

However if my meal ticket was mad at me rather than spending 40 mins winding it up further I would be doing everything in my power to calm them down or failing that I would be beating a hasty retreat.

It is called enlightened self interest!

As for all being equal, that utopian ideal has and will never be the case. There will always be people that for one reason or another command a premium. Clarkson is one such as are premiership footballers, it does not matter what you and I think of them the fact is they are revenue machines and while we have a trading system based on currency there will always be those who for one reason or another command premiums and special treatment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But this thread isn't about egotistical people, this thread is about people that don't understand that democracy comes with a price and the price in this case is a voluntary donation of £3 to keep a worthy cause going.

Or an unworthy cause, depending on one's point of _iew.

How is a petition website a worthy cause anyway?

I think he means that the petition itself and the publicising of it is a cause worth supporting."
no I dont and you know what I mean. Change and the 38 degrees site rely on donations to fund their campaigns, whether it be the plight of starving refugees, political prisoners or the homeless in inner cities.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love Clarkson, he's a self-proclaimed dinosaur? But by heck he makes me laugh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is funny reading this and other threads on Clarkson.

They all read the same.

On one side you have the Clarkson fans who love the program and think the sun shines out of his arse. On the other you have the haters who want him out no matter what. In the centre you have a group that say I cant hit anyone at work and expect to get away with it, why should he?

Does anyone other than me see the elephant in the room?

Clarkson makes the BBC over £50 million a year, why was some jumped up little twat allowed lose us £50 million a year because he failed to make sure that the money earner had a hot meal at the end of a days work? Why did none of the other hangers on not shift the prick who was winding Clarkson up out of it?

At what point will the BBC governors be held to account for destroying such a valuable asset?

And now a question for all those who think he should be sacked...

If you had a primadonna who earned you £50 million a year would you treat them the same way as you treat the cleaner on minimum wage or would you pander to their every whim?"

Oh... so you're the only one smart enough to get it right? Is that what you're saying?

Perhaps 'the jumped up little twat' who made a MISTAKE should have offered golden boy his wrists and a razor.

How dare he not provide a meal for a grown man who earns too much money to think for himself.

He's a tosser and if someone at work thumped me I'd prosecute.

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By *oward1978Man
over a year ago

Rotherham


"1 million sign.

I went to add my signature, and the site wanted £3-00 as a donation.

Oh yeah?

Nice little earner.

I'll have to fry that."

Don't fry it. Grill it. It's a lot healthier

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By *verysmileMan
over a year ago

Canterbury

Some say he has invented 26 types of cheese and thacynic in me reckons that this is one huge publicity stunt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"TRUE STOREY ABOUT CLARKSON ..

So he accepts delivery of a new F70 which sits in his garage a while before using it and when he goes to turn it over for the first time,it wont start..

So,knowing everything there is to know about cars,he thinks `flat battery` and opens up the hood to jump start it..

After ages pondering how magnificent the engine looks,pulling a few things apart,uncovering things,he cant find the battery for life or money..

Accepting defeat,he goes to the provided manual,which still offers no indication of how (or where from) to jump start the battery..

So now admitting total defeat , he phones the Ferrari dealearship and gets a machenic to guide him thru this minefield..

Cant be too hard surely,to recharge a battery // jumpstart a car,surely..

Some several hours into this , it transpires the battery is in an unreachable place,UNDER the engine ,and can only be charged @ the dealers...

So,he DOESNT know everything about cars tho he likes to sound too.

I dont mind him in small doses.He is witty,intelligent but FFS once you have heard him 15 times,its like you have heard him 500 times..

Gets a bit samey,a bit predictable,like a one trick pony or record that needs changing.

I cant abide a man with bad manners .. anyone who threatens someone else is a bit of a moron in my eyes,a bully, obnoxious...

I can only think the 1m people who supported this petition gave little thought to the poor guy on the end of Clarkson`s vitriolic tirade..He is the one who should be being supported.

I wish i had been witness to his 40 minute tirade so I could have said to him to stop being so tiresome,to grow up,and show some manners and respect...Something his producer wouldnt be able to do under the circumstances..

Yes always said he's not mechanically minded and has troubkchanging a light bulb, he's never claimed to know everything about cars.

Especially the F70, which he doesn't and never has owned...

Whether owned or not, he definately accepted delivery of one..

He hasn't.

I'll let you into a secret. The story is about his old Ferrari 355, he wrote about it in one of his books.

Same story,different car... does it really matter ffs."

Yes, because I'm a pedant and because the F70 doesn't have a battery, well not in the traditional sense anyway...

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Oh... so you're the only one smart enough to get it right? Is that what you're saying?

Perhaps 'the jumped up little twat' who made a MISTAKE should have offered golden boy his wrists and a razor.

How dare he not provide a meal for a grown man who earns too much money to think for himself.

He's a tosser and if someone at work thumped me I'd prosecute."

I am saying I seem to be the only one pointing out that there are 2 men involved in this, 1 makes the BBC £50 million a year, the other is employed to make sure the first ones working day is smooth and drama free.

Now when you remember who and what the 2 men are, how come the first did not get a hot meal at the end of a days filming? And a lot more to the point considering how many are in a film crew why didn't any of the others there drag the uppity little twat who's job was ensure the star was looked after away rather than leave a bad situation deteriorate over 40 mins to a point a punch or punches were thrown?

Further if someone had to be sacked it should have been the director, because like it or not Clarkson is the money. And to be clear his loss represents either an extra £3 on every TV licence or £50 million cut from the BBC budget (thats the cost of radio 1 or 3, or maybe BBC News...)

Seems to me the cost of all this self-righteous outrage that you and others are voicing is just a little too high.

But then what do I know...

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden


"It has been reported that he was filming in Surrey all day with no catering available. It was also reported that filming in Surrey ran late due to hold ups caused by not enough producers being there. It was also reported that they went straight from Surrey to Yorkshire by helicopter, a journey which took two and a half hours. During this journey James May is reported to have had drank a bottle of wine while Clarkson continued to work on his script for the following day. It is reported that some cold meats were laid on. It was reported that this was because the kitchen was closed.

After that an argument ensued between JC and Oisin Tymon.

"

Where exactly was all this "reported"?

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

Clarkson for MP...

At least he calls a spade a spade !!!

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden


"Oh... so you're the only one smart enough to get it right? Is that what you're saying?

Perhaps 'the jumped up little twat' who made a MISTAKE should have offered golden boy his wrists and a razor.

How dare he not provide a meal for a grown man who earns too much money to think for himself.

He's a tosser and if someone at work thumped me I'd prosecute.

I am saying I seem to be the only one pointing out that there are 2 men involved in this, 1 makes the BBC £50 million a year, the other is employed to make sure the first ones working day is smooth and drama free.

Now when you remember who and what the 2 men are, how come the first did not get a hot meal at the end of a days filming? And a lot more to the point considering how many are in a film crew why didn't any of the others there drag the uppity little twat who's job was ensure the star was looked after away rather than leave a bad situation deteriorate over 40 mins to a point a punch or punches were thrown?

Further if someone had to be sacked it should have been the director, because like it or not Clarkson is the money. And to be clear his loss represents either an extra £3 on every TV licence or £50 million cut from the BBC budget (thats the cost of radio 1 or 3, or maybe BBC News...)

Seems to me the cost of all this self-righteous outrage that you and others are voicing is just a little too high.

But then what do I know..."

Oh sorry, I had no idea that because he makes loads of money for the BBC that he is allowed to be a violent, racist idiot!

Now what if it had been you or one of your family on the end of this idiots trade? Of course, you would still back Clarkson!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"TRUE STOREY ABOUT CLARKSON ..

So he accepts delivery of a new F70 which sits in his garage a while before using it and when he goes to turn it over for the first time,it wont start..

So,knowing everything there is to know about cars,he thinks `flat battery` and opens up the hood to jump start it..

After ages pondering how magnificent the engine looks,pulling a few things apart,uncovering things,he cant find the battery for life or money..

Accepting defeat,he goes to the provided manual,which still offers no indication of how (or where from) to jump start the battery..

So now admitting total defeat , he phones the Ferrari dealearship and gets a machenic to guide him thru this minefield..

Cant be too hard surely,to recharge a battery // jumpstart a car,surely..

Some several hours into this , it transpires the battery is in an unreachable place,UNDER the engine ,and can only be charged @ the dealers...

So,he DOESNT know everything about cars tho he likes to sound too.

I dont mind him in small doses.He is witty,intelligent but FFS once you have heard him 15 times,its like you have heard him 500 times..

Gets a bit samey,a bit predictable,like a one trick pony or record that needs changing.

I cant abide a man with bad manners .. anyone who threatens someone else is a bit of a moron in my eyes,a bully, obnoxious...

I can only think the 1m people who supported this petition gave little thought to the poor guy on the end of Clarkson`s vitriolic tirade..He is the one who should be being supported.

I wish i had been witness to his 40 minute tirade so I could have said to him to stop being so tiresome,to grow up,and show some manners and respect...Something his producer wouldnt be able to do under the circumstances..

Yes always said he's not mechanically minded and has troubkchanging a light bulb, he's never claimed to know everything about cars.

Especially the F70, which he doesn't and never has owned...

Whether owned or not, he definately accepted delivery of one..

He hasn't.

I'll let you into a secret. The story is about his old Ferrari 355, he wrote about it in one of his books.

Same story,different car... does it really matter ffs."

Does the story matter whatever the car?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clarkson is an idiot. Get rid!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"

If you had a primadonna who earned you £50 million a year would you treat them the same way as you treat the cleaner on minimum wage or would you pander to their every whim?

So I guess people aren't equal to you; it just depends on how useful they are as to how you value an individual.

How would you feel if the star performer in your place, or any business you visit thumped you? Would you be ok about it? "

I don't think he's actually saying it's OK. I think he's trying to point out the possible hypocrisy of those claiming he should be sacked.

Ask yourself the question he just asked. We all know what the correct answer should be but, if you're really honest with yourself, would you really treat them both the same?

I know I should treat them the same but I'm not sure I would! Are you? Really?

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Oh... so you're the only one smart enough to get it right? Is that what you're saying?

Perhaps 'the jumped up little twat' who made a MISTAKE should have offered golden boy his wrists and a razor.

How dare he not provide a meal for a grown man who earns too much money to think for himself.

He's a tosser and if someone at work thumped me I'd prosecute.

I am saying I seem to be the only one pointing out that there are 2 men involved in this, 1 makes the BBC £50 million a year, the other is employed to make sure the first ones working day is smooth and drama free.

Now when you remember who and what the 2 men are, how come the first did not get a hot meal at the end of a days filming? And a lot more to the point considering how many are in a film crew why didn't any of the others there drag the uppity little twat who's job was ensure the star was looked after away rather than leave a bad situation deteriorate over 40 mins to a point a punch or punches were thrown?

Further if someone had to be sacked it should have been the director, because like it or not Clarkson is the money. And to be clear his loss represents either an extra £3 on every TV licence or £50 million cut from the BBC budget (thats the cost of radio 1 or 3, or maybe BBC News...)

Seems to me the cost of all this self-righteous outrage that you and others are voicing is just a little too high.

But then what do I know..."

id happily pay the £3.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would not piss on the pompus deluded twat if he was on fire. Fact is he assaulted someone why are folk defending him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He's a cockwomble! Sky will take him on if the bbc don't take him back. Can't stand the guy...x

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Would not piss on the pompus deluded twat if he was on fire. Fact is he assaulted someone why are folk defending him."

because he's the 'talent' and makes the bbc lots of money.

funny though. most of the defenders don't seem to think the same of the royal family who bring in lots of money for the country (not just a broadcasting company). If one of those assaulted the 'staff' they'd call for them to be taken to task no doubt.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts


"

I know I should treat them the same but I'm not sure I would! Are you? Really?"

As it happens I would. You either believe in equality or you don't. I don't think it is something you can pick and choose over. No one is more equal than the rest.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"It is funny reading this and other threads on Clarkson.

They all read the same.

On one side you have the Clarkson fans who love the program and think the sun shines out of his arse. On the other you have the haters who want him out no matter what. In the centre you have a group that say I cant hit anyone at work and expect to get away with it, why should he?

Does anyone other than me see the elephant in the room?

Clarkson makes the BBC over £50 million a year, why was some jumped up little twat allowed lose us £50 million a year because he failed to make sure that the money earner had a hot meal at the end of a days work? Why did none of the other hangers on not shift the prick who was winding Clarkson up out of it?

At what point will the BBC governors be held to account for destroying such a valuable asset?

And now a question for all those who think he should be sacked...

If you had a primadonna who earned you £50 million a year would you treat them the same way as you treat the cleaner on minimum wage or would you pander to their every whim?"

I've not run £50m enterprises but I have had highly paid and influential people working for me over the years. None of them was pandered too when they were out of line. Why should be the cleaner be treated worse regardless of wage?

Of course to Fab forum folk I'm a PC do-gooder but I have never allowed anyone to get better treatment because they are seen as being more profitable. Problem children in the organisation costs in £s as well as stress and strain for everyone involved, which becomes £s when a claim is then made.

The rules are for everyone and that is how I believe they should be applied.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"

I know I should treat them the same but I'm not sure I would! Are you? Really?

As it happens I would. You either believe in equality or you don't. I don't think it is something you can pick and choose over. No one is more equal than the rest. "

Four legs good, two legs bad again.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

The thing is there are countless examples historically whereby the rules as set have not been applied equally across the board within organisations, public sector being a prime example..

doesn't make it right but its happened..

personally i'm in the no one has a get out of jail card just because of their material worth to the organisation..

its a recipe for disaster as well as being wrong..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh... so you're the only one smart enough to get it right? Is that what you're saying?

Perhaps 'the jumped up little twat' who made a MISTAKE should have offered golden boy his wrists and a razor.

How dare he not provide a meal for a grown man who earns too much money to think for himself.

He's a tosser and if someone at work thumped me I'd prosecute.

I am saying I seem to be the only one pointing out that there are 2 men involved in this, 1 makes the BBC £50 million a year, the other is employed to make sure the first ones working day is smooth and drama free.

Now when you remember who and what the 2 men are, how come the first did not get a hot meal at the end of a days filming? And a lot more to the point considering how many are in a film crew why didn't any of the others there drag the uppity little twat who's job was ensure the star was looked after away rather than leave a bad situation deteriorate over 40 mins to a point a punch or punches were thrown?

Further if someone had to be sacked it should have been the director, because like it or not Clarkson is the money. And to be clear his loss represents either an extra £3 on every TV licence or £50 million cut from the BBC budget (thats the cost of radio 1 or 3, or maybe BBC News...)

Seems to me the cost of all this self-righteous outrage that you and others are voicing is just a little too high.

But then what do I know..."

Clearly you think you know quite a bit.

Doesn't matter who he is or what happened he cannot just physically abuse someone when things don't go his way.

He is a role model to a lot of car mad kids and he needs to be shown to be taking the consequences for his actions.

Its about time he, and people like you who defend him, grew up.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"

But then what do I know...

Clearly you think you know quite a bit.

Doesn't matter who he is or what happened he cannot just physically abuse someone when things don't go his way.

He is a role model to a lot of car mad kids and he needs to be shown to be taking the consequences for his actions.

Its about time he, and people like you who defend him, grew up."

I was talking to some teenage boys about this. One said "I liked TG and Clarkson when I was 10 but I grew up and it's just sad".

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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago

Hereford


"

I think people don't like him because he has opinions and says things as they are. Hey, it's a democratic country and (supposedly) we have freedom of speech. "

Freedom of speech is just that - he is entitled to say what he likes.

I am entitled to think he is a surplus prick and challenge his _iews should I choose.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"TRUE STOREY ABOUT CLARKSON ..

So he accepts delivery of a new F70 which sits in his garage a while before using it and when he goes to turn it over for the first time,it wont start..

So,knowing everything there is to know about cars,he thinks `flat battery` and opens up the hood to jump start it..

After ages pondering how magnificent the engine looks,pulling a few things apart,uncovering things,he cant find the battery for life or money..

Accepting defeat,he goes to the provided manual,which still offers no indication of how (or where from) to jump start the battery..

So now admitting total defeat , he phones the Ferrari dealearship and gets a machenic to guide him thru this minefield..

Cant be too hard surely,to recharge a battery // jumpstart a car,surely..

Some several hours into this , it transpires the battery is in an unreachable place,UNDER the engine ,and can only be charged @ the dealers...

So,he DOESNT know everything about cars tho he likes to sound too.

I dont mind him in small doses.He is witty,intelligent but FFS once you have heard him 15 times,its like you have heard him 500 times..

Gets a bit samey,a bit predictable,like a one trick pony or record that needs changing.

I cant abide a man with bad manners .. anyone who threatens someone else is a bit of a moron in my eyes,a bully, obnoxious...

I can only think the 1m people who supported this petition gave little thought to the poor guy on the end of Clarkson`s vitriolic tirade..He is the one who should be being supported.

I wish i had been witness to his 40 minute tirade so I could have said to him to stop being so tiresome,to grow up,and show some manners and respect...Something his producer wouldnt be able to do under the circumstances..

Yes always said he's not mechanically minded and has troubkchanging a light bulb, he's never claimed to know everything about cars.

Especially the F70, which he doesn't and never has owned...

Whether owned or not, he definately accepted delivery of one..

He hasn't.

I'll let you into a secret. The story is about his old Ferrari 355, he wrote about it in one of his books.

Same story,different car... does it really matter ffs."

Getting ones facts correct matters, ffs. Ofcourse on forums like this one, facts are of little importance; innuendo and anecdotal evidence seem to have replaced facts

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Oh sorry, I had no idea that because he makes loads of money for the BBC that he is allowed to be a violent, racist idiot!

Now what if it had been you or one of your family on the end of this idiots trade? Of course, you would still back Clarkson! "

It's a scripted show, like any actor or any other presenter he delivers lines written by the production staff to camera. The racist is behind the camera putting words in Clarkson's mouth


"

I don't think he's actually saying it's OK. I think he's trying to point out the possible hypocrisy of those claiming he should be sacked.

Ask yourself the question he just asked. We all know what the correct answer should be but, if you're really honest with yourself, would you really treat them both the same?

I know I should treat them the same but I'm not sure I would! Are you? Really?"

Thank god someone else is looking past all the hype to the reality of the situation. Fact is somewhere in the BBC is a high-powered executive or board member who has a hard on for destroying Clarkson and because it is not their money or jobs that is/are being lost they are happy to kill a BBC global brand.

The saddest fact is that Clarkson, May and Hammond will take their hooning idiocy on to sky (my bet) and continue to be a money generator, just not for us.


"I've not run £50m enterprises but I have had highly paid and influential people working for me over the years. None of them was pandered too when they were out of line. Why should be the cleaner be treated worse regardless of wage?

Of course to Fab forum folk I'm a PC do-gooder but I have never allowed anyone to get better treatment because they are seen as being more profitable. Problem children in the organisation costs in £s as well as stress and strain for everyone involved, which becomes £s when a claim is then made.

The rules are for everyone and that is how I believe they should be applied.

"

Obviously! If you had you would realise Clarkson does not run a multimillion pound enterprise. HE IS A MULTIMILLION POUND ENTERPRISE! No Clarkson, no business a bit like no multi million pound premiership footballers no football clubs! Anyone thought about how many people are going to lose their jobs because of this? Anybody giving a thought to them?


"

Clearly you think you know quite a bit.

Doesn't matter who he is or what happened he cannot just physically abuse someone when things don't go his way.

He is a role model to a lot of car mad kids and he needs to be shown to be taking the consequences for his actions.

Its about time he, and people like you who defend him, grew up."

Clearly I can read, and pick out salient facts in order to form an opinion that is either unbiased or driven by enlightened self interest.

Me, grow up? Now that is funny, all I have done is point out some of the realities of the situation that are being overlooked by the string him up and burn him mob. And rather than stop and think about all the consequence of sacking Clarkson the attitude is one of string him up and if as a result of stinging him up we destroy innocents 'so what'! Because like it or not if Clarkson is sacked because of this anyone who is employed by Top Gear becomes unemployable in TV. And for those who think I am wrong ask yourself would you employ someone who in their last job helped destroy the whole business?

Finally here is a little fact for everyone to think about. In business when a company is taken over by another one the first people through the door of the acquired business are the hatchet men. Their job is to remove the previous owners and their management replacing them with the new owners management. Quite often the hatchet men throw the baby out with the bathwater because they do not understand where the value lies in the acquisition. It is my belief that that is what has happened with TG, and that the hatchet men are still in there and are now completing their task by removing the last vestige of the old management.

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By *he nicknameMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Just a line to add to this so the thread will fill and close.

Perhaps I could add is that there is ageism and sexism within the bbc. A female his age would have been dropped long ago from front line presenting.

With the thread full hopefully everyone on both sides would have had their fill and we dont have to see his name on the forums for awhile

X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would not piss on the pompus deluded twat if he was on fire. Fact is he assaulted someone why are folk defending him."

No.

The fact is he MAY have punched someone. We are not yet privvy to what happened. All we actually know is what has been reported in the press and when did many of them let facts get in the way of a good slur campaign?

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By *he nicknameMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Would not piss on the pompus deluded twat if he was on fire. Fact is he assaulted someone why are folk defending him.

No.

The fact is he MAY have punched someone. We are not yet privvy to what happened. All we actually know is what has been reported in the press and when did many of them let facts get in the way of a good slur campaign?"

Love it x

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Oh sorry, I had no idea that because he makes loads of money for the BBC that he is allowed to be a violent, racist idiot!

Now what if it had been you or one of your family on the end of this idiots trade? Of course, you would still back Clarkson!

It's a scripted show, like any actor or any other presenter he delivers lines written by the production staff to camera. The racist is behind the camera putting words in Clarkson's mouth

I don't think he's actually saying it's OK. I think he's trying to point out the possible hypocrisy of those claiming he should be sacked.

Ask yourself the question he just asked. We all know what the correct answer should be but, if you're really honest with yourself, would you really treat them both the same?

I know I should treat them the same but I'm not sure I would! Are you? Really?

Thank god someone else is looking past all the hype to the reality of the situation. Fact is somewhere in the BBC is a high-powered executive or board member who has a hard on for destroying Clarkson and because it is not their money or jobs that is/are being lost they are happy to kill a BBC global brand.

The saddest fact is that Clarkson, May and Hammond will take their hooning idiocy on to sky (my bet) and continue to be a money generator, just not for us.

I've not run £50m enterprises but I have had highly paid and influential people working for me over the years. None of them was pandered too when they were out of line. Why should be the cleaner be treated worse regardless of wage?

Of course to Fab forum folk I'm a PC do-gooder but I have never allowed anyone to get better treatment because they are seen as being more profitable. Problem children in the organisation costs in £s as well as stress and strain for everyone involved, which becomes £s when a claim is then made.

The rules are for everyone and that is how I believe they should be applied.

Obviously! If you had you would realise Clarkson does not run a multimillion pound enterprise. HE IS A MULTIMILLION POUND ENTERPRISE! No Clarkson, no business a bit like no multi million pound premiership footballers no football clubs! Anyone thought about how many people are going to lose their jobs because of this? Anybody giving a thought to them?

Clearly you think you know quite a bit.

Doesn't matter who he is or what happened he cannot just physically abuse someone when things don't go his way.

He is a role model to a lot of car mad kids and he needs to be shown to be taking the consequences for his actions.

Its about time he, and people like you who defend him, grew up.

Clearly I can read, and pick out salient facts in order to form an opinion that is either unbiased or driven by enlightened self interest.

Me, grow up? Now that is funny, all I have done is point out some of the realities of the situation that are being overlooked by the string him up and burn him mob. And rather than stop and think about all the consequence of sacking Clarkson the attitude is one of string him up and if as a result of stinging him up we destroy innocents 'so what'! Because like it or not if Clarkson is sacked because of this anyone who is employed by Top Gear becomes unemployable in TV. And for those who think I am wrong ask yourself would you employ someone who in their last job helped destroy the whole business?

Finally here is a little fact for everyone to think about. In business when a company is taken over by another one the first people through the door of the acquired business are the hatchet men. Their job is to remove the previous owners and their management replacing them with the new owners management. Quite often the hatchet men throw the baby out with the bathwater because they do not understand where the value lies in the acquisition. It is my belief that that is what has happened with TG, and that the hatchet men are still in there and are now completing their task by removing the last vestige of the old management."

That is hilarious! So the camera men and lighting technicians and production team will be unemployable because jeremy Clarkson got sacked?! What a load of absolute bollocks!

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"Would not piss on the pompus deluded twat if he was on fire. Fact is he assaulted someone why are folk defending him.

No.

The fact is he MAY have punched someone. We are not yet privvy to what happened. All we actually know is what has been reported in the press and when did many of them let facts get in the way of a good slur campaign?"

But to the Sun readers, these are all the 'facts' and 'evidence' which is required

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would not piss on the pompus deluded twat if he was on fire. Fact is he assaulted someone why are folk defending him.

No.

The fact is he MAY have punched someone. We are not yet privvy to what happened. All we actually know is what has been reported in the press and when did many of them let facts get in the way of a good slur campaign?

But to the Sun readers, these are all the 'facts' and 'evidence' which is required "

Never let facts get in the way of a good story and let's all base whether he's innocent or not on personal opinion.

I like Clarkson, he speaks his mind and I don't consider what he says as offensive or racist, he's just one of the last of the old guard, we need more like him.

Family Guy and American Dad are considerably more offensive and blatantly racist yet there's no huge campaign to have them removed from our screens or have Seth McFarlane hung drawn and quartered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Shame the NHS petitions and similar aren't getting as much support. The NHS is of more use to most of us than Clarkson."

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"

I know I should treat them the same but I'm not sure I would! Are you? Really?

As it happens I would. You either believe in equality or you don't. I don't think it is something you can pick and choose over. No one is more equal than the rest. "

Then I admire your conviction but still wonder how honest you're actually being with yourself.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts


"

I know I should treat them the same but I'm not sure I would! Are you? Really?

As it happens I would. You either believe in equality or you don't. I don't think it is something you can pick and choose over. No one is more equal than the rest.

Then I admire your conviction but still wonder how honest you're actually being with yourself."

Very.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is a fact in TV, films and music gofers or production assistants are employed to look after and cater for the talents comfort and wellbeing. Think of Mariah Carey and think of her entourage pandering to her every whim. Top Gear is no different to any other TV programme in this respect. there will be someone employed to make sure that the talent is comfortable and focused on the job in hand ie: making a telly programme. It appears in this case that somebody screwed up royally when things overran. If it was Oisin Tymon that screwed up he would have been expecting to have his ears chewed off for what happened. Ignoring the rights and wrongs of the fracas and concentrating on the aftermath, the remaining three episodes of the series were cancelled and upwards of 50 staff mainly on short term contracts are now out of work.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"That is hilarious! So the camera men and lighting technicians and production team will be unemployable because jeremy Clarkson got sacked?! What a load of absolute bollocks! "

Not really, think about it...

On your CV your last job camera man, lighting tech (or whatever) top Gear ended march 2015...

You send off your CV, it arrives on a desk and is read...

You are one of the production team that destroyed TG, I dont want you!

Why...

TV, rock and stage 'personalities' are notorious for their tantrums, to the point they are called lovies! I need back of camera staff that can pander to my lovies and protect them from anyone who is causing disruption. Not quite what the crew in Yorkshire did is it? And as for the crew in Surrey they were so inefficient and negligent that when the shoot overran they didn't phone Yorkshire to let them know that a cranky Clarkson had just climbed onto a helicopter for a 2 1/2 and would be in a foul mood when he arrived...

Do I want anyone associated with that debacle? Not chance!

It's called guilt by association, it may be wrong but it happens every day of the week.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*Finally here is a little fact for everyone to think about. In business when a company is taken over by another one the first people through the door of the acquired business are the hatchet men. Their job is to remove the previous owners and their management replacing them with the new owners management. Quite often the hatchet men throw the baby out with the bathwater because they do not understand where the value lies in the acquisition. It is my belief that that is what has happened with TG, and that the hatchet men are still in there and are now completing their task by removing the last vestige of the old management.*

I have bought lots of businesses and have never done this

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"*Finally here is a little fact for everyone to think about. In business when a company is taken over by another one the first people through the door of the acquired business are the hatchet men. Their job is to remove the previous owners and their management replacing them with the new owners management. Quite often the hatchet men throw the baby out with the bathwater because they do not understand where the value lies in the acquisition. It is my belief that that is what has happened with TG, and that the hatchet men are still in there and are now completing their task by removing the last vestige of the old management.*

I have bought lots of businesses and have never done this "

Then you are the exception to the rule and for that you have my respect (unless you have been buying companies for others or to asset strip them [after all your a city gent ).

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"*Finally here is a little fact for everyone to think about. In business when a company is taken over by another one the first people through the door of the acquired business are the hatchet men. Their job is to remove the previous owners and their management replacing them with the new owners management. Quite often the hatchet men throw the baby out with the bathwater because they do not understand where the value lies in the acquisition. It is my belief that that is what has happened with TG, and that the hatchet men are still in there and are now completing their task by removing the last vestige of the old management.*

I have bought lots of businesses and have never done this

Then you are the exception to the rule and for that you have my respect (unless you have been buying companies for others or to asset strip them [after all your a city gent ). "

I wonder how many businesses you have run, taken over or merged? I have many, albeit at just the couple of million quid level and I find your assertions of what is the norm fascinating as I have not experienced that norm.

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