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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Always liked tattoos on women, but has to be good art and have often ended up in in relationships with women partly covered or the likes of a sleeve or a leg.

Do like tattoos but dont have any myself as my mates an artist for tats.

During my youth when he was learning he told me "never get a tattoo mate, they not safe" I never did. He got cancer now and its been put down to all then lead and heavy metal in his body......his kidneys are full of black ink.

Tattoos, though extremely popular, have not historically been heavily regulated.

As a result, some tattoo inks have contained harmful and even toxic ingredients, ranging from metallic salts and lead to plastics, formaldehyde and a range of other chemicals. Today, many tattoo artists recognize the importance of using nontoxic inks in their work but the carrier solutions

contain harmful substances such as denatured alcohols, methanol, rubbing alcohol, antifreeze, detergents, or formaldehyde and other highly toxic aldehydes.

Then is the inks...

The oldest pigments came from using ground up minerals and carbon (known cause of cancer) black. Science has proved a wide range of dyes and pigments are now used in tattoos "from inorganic materials like titanium dioxide and iron oxides to carbon black, azo dyes, and acridine, quinoline, phthalocyanine and naphthol derivates, dyes made from ash, and other mixtures."  Currently popular is Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene (ABS plastic), used in Intenze, Millenium and other ABS pigmented brands.Auto mobile paint and industrial floor paints are often used in the bright colours.

Often see women on here with loads of tattoos.

People must think they safe or don't care if are or not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd like to see a proper peer reviewed research paper on these claims and not just "hear-say" claims from a friend.

Tattoo's have been around for decades, and are incredibly regulated these days. There is so much health and safety involved its unreal.

And what about the men that have tattoos? Is it only woman that aren't "Safe"

The trouble is any one can buy a tattoo gun from ebay and self-tattoo and claim to be something they're not. If you're going to these types of unlicensed people, then there are risks, especially if they have no experience or idea of sterilisation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also to add. You can buy inks from anywhere. But like anything you buy, albeit online or not, there are risks of counterfeiting and fakes. That's buy you buy from licensed and supported sources.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Also to add. You can buy inks from anywhere. But like anything you buy, albeit online or not, there are risks of counterfeiting and fakes. That's buy you buy from licensed and supported sources. "

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd like to see a proper peer reviewed research paper on these claims and not just "hear-say" claims from a friend.

Tattoo's have been around for decades, and are incredibly regulated these days. There is so much health and safety involved its unreal.

And what about the men that have tattoos? Is it only woman that aren't "Safe"

The trouble is any one can buy a tattoo gun from ebay and self-tattoo and claim to be something they're not. If you're going to these types of unlicensed people, then there are risks, especially if they have no experience or idea of sterilisation.

"

It's just archaic evidence. It was true about 20-30 years ago, but the industry has acknowledged and adapted since (for example, certain metal based inks mean tattooed people can't have MRIs).

I hope so anyway, otherwise I'll be looking at a sex change as I'm one of the susceptible females.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is this aimed at just ladies?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'd like to see a proper peer reviewed research paper on these claims and not just "hear-say" claims from a friend.

Tattoo's have been around for decades, and are incredibly regulated these days. There is so much health and safety involved its unreal.

And what about the men that have tattoos? Is it only woman that aren't "Safe"

The trouble is any one can buy a tattoo gun from ebay and self-tattoo and claim to be something they're not. If you're going to these types of unlicensed people, then there are risks, especially if they have no experience or idea of sterilisation.

It's just archaic evidence. It was true about 20-30 years ago, but the industry has acknowledged and adapted since (for example, certain metal based inks mean tattooed people can't have MRIs).

I hope so anyway, otherwise I'll be looking at a sex change as I'm one of the susceptible females. "

Then industry has not adapted. Sorry your wrong there.

Is no regulation to be had and ink manufacturing don't ever tell what's in their products so is no competition. Science proves many cases and reports that ink is not safe even the old natural inks...like carbon black. Carbon in body causes cancer.

Did you read post...it apply to men too. I just like tattoos on women like said in post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd like to see a proper peer reviewed research paper on these claims and not just "hear-say" claims from a friend.

Tattoo's have been around for decades, and are incredibly regulated these days. There is so much health and safety involved its unreal.

And what about the men that have tattoos? Is it only woman that aren't "Safe"

The trouble is any one can buy a tattoo gun from ebay and self-tattoo and claim to be something they're not. If you're going to these types of unlicensed people, then there are risks, especially if they have no experience or idea of sterilisation.

It's just archaic evidence. It was true about 20-30 years ago, but the industry has acknowledged and adapted since (for example, certain metal based inks mean tattooed people can't have MRIs).

I hope so anyway, otherwise I'll be looking at a sex change as I'm one of the susceptible females.

Then industry has not adapted. Sorry your wrong there.

Is no regulation to be had and ink manufacturing don't ever tell what's in their products so is no competition. Science proves many cases and reports that ink is not safe even the old natural inks...like carbon black. Carbon in body causes cancer.

Did you read post...it apply to men too. I just like tattoos on women like said in post"

The industry has adapted, you're being ignorant and biased.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'd like to see a proper peer reviewed research paper on these claims and not just "hear-say" claims from a friend.

Tattoo's have been around for decades, and are incredibly regulated these days. There is so much health and safety involved its unreal.

And what about the men that have tattoos? Is it only woman that aren't "Safe"

The trouble is any one can buy a tattoo gun from ebay and self-tattoo and claim to be something they're not. If you're going to these types of unlicensed people, then there are risks, especially if they have no experience or idea of sterilisation.

"

You might be right about regulations and health and safety to do with the art its self.

However you are incorrect is no regulation anywhere in world to do with the inks or carriers and especially not in UK.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'd like to see a proper peer reviewed research paper on these claims and not just "hear-say" claims from a friend.

Tattoo's have been around for decades, and are incredibly regulated these days. There is so much health and safety involved its unreal.

And what about the men that have tattoos? Is it only woman that aren't "Safe"

The trouble is any one can buy a tattoo gun from ebay and self-tattoo and claim to be something they're not. If you're going to these types of unlicensed people, then there are risks, especially if they have no experience or idea of sterilisation.

It's just archaic evidence. It was true about 20-30 years ago, but the industry has acknowledged and adapted since (for example, certain metal based inks mean tattooed people can't have MRIs).

I hope so anyway, otherwise I'll be looking at a sex change as I'm one of the susceptible females.

Then industry has not adapted. Sorry your wrong there.

Is no regulation to be had and ink manufacturing don't ever tell what's in their products so is no competition. Science proves many cases and reports that ink is not safe even the old natural inks...like carbon black. Carbon in body causes cancer.

Did you read post...it apply to men too. I just like tattoos on women like said in post

The industry has adapted, you're being ignorant and biased. "

.

Sorry I'm not and your wrongly informed. Have facts in front of me by way of two PhDs and whole stack of scientific articles. You live in a dream world if think industry has adapted

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I think if you go to a proper place you will be less likely to come a cropper.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd like to see a proper peer reviewed research paper on these claims and not just "hear-say" claims from a friend.

Tattoo's have been around for decades, and are incredibly regulated these days. There is so much health and safety involved its unreal.

And what about the men that have tattoos? Is it only woman that aren't "Safe"

The trouble is any one can buy a tattoo gun from ebay and self-tattoo and claim to be something they're not. If you're going to these types of unlicensed people, then there are risks, especially if they have no experience or idea of sterilisation.

It's just archaic evidence. It was true about 20-30 years ago, but the industry has acknowledged and adapted since (for example, certain metal based inks mean tattooed people can't have MRIs).

I hope so anyway, otherwise I'll be looking at a sex change as I'm one of the susceptible females.

Then industry has not adapted. Sorry your wrong there.

Is no regulation to be had and ink manufacturing don't ever tell what's in their products so is no competition. Science proves many cases and reports that ink is not safe even the old natural inks...like carbon black. Carbon in body causes cancer.

Did you read post...it apply to men too. I just like tattoos on women like said in post

The industry has adapted, you're being ignorant and biased. .

Sorry I'm not and your wrongly informed. Have facts in front of me by way of two PhDs and whole stack of scientific articles. You live in a dream world if think industry has adapted"

Disprove me adequately then.

The inks have changed massively over the years due to biocompatibility issues as well as improving the aesthetic result. Just because there may be little regulation, it doesn't mean that you are going to get cancer.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think if you go to a proper place you will be less likely to come a cropper. "

What's a proper place?

Given that non of the ink manufacturing tells the artists what exactly is in their inks.

So if the artist dont know...how does it mean its safe. Most manufactured inks claim to be safe but when tested in lab nearly all are not safe. Even some of the so called vegan inks still have nasty carriers

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Always liked tattoos on women, but has to be good art and have often ended up in in relationships with women partly covered or the likes of a sleeve or a leg.

Do like tattoos but dont have any myself as my mates an artist for tats.

During my youth when he was learning he told me "never get a tattoo mate, they not safe" I never did. He got cancer now and its been put down to all then lead and heavy metal in his body......his kidneys are full of black ink.

Tattoos, though extremely popular, have not historically been heavily regulated.

As a result, some tattoo inks have contained harmful and even toxic ingredients, ranging from metallic salts and lead to plastics, formaldehyde and a range of other chemicals. Today, many tattoo artists recognize the importance of using nontoxic inks in their work but the carrier solutions

contain harmful substances such as denatured alcohols, methanol, rubbing alcohol, antifreeze, detergents, or formaldehyde and other highly toxic aldehydes.

Then is the inks...

The oldest pigments came from using ground up minerals and carbon (known cause of cancer) black. Science has proved a wide range of dyes and pigments are now used in tattoos "from inorganic materials like titanium dioxide and iron oxides to carbon black, azo dyes, and acridine, quinoline, phthalocyanine and naphthol derivates, dyes made from ash, and other mixtures."  Currently popular is Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene (ABS plastic), used in Intenze, Millenium and other ABS pigmented brands.Auto mobile paint and industrial floor paints are often used in the bright colours.

Often see women on here with loads of tattoos.

People must think they safe or don't care if are or not?

"

This is basically very generalised scaremongering, unless you have any reputable scientific evidence to back it up, (which I doubt).

Statements such as carbon is a known cause of cancer is ridiculous. *Some* types of carbon via *some* methods of exposure are thought to be carcinogenic to varying degrees, but the human body is roughly 1/5 carbon so let's not be silly, eh? Diamonds are carbon. Carbon is present in every living (or previously living) organism. It's one of the most abundant elements in the universe.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'd like to see a proper peer reviewed research paper on these claims and not just "hear-say" claims from a friend.

Tattoo's have been around for decades, and are incredibly regulated these days. There is so much health and safety involved its unreal.

And what about the men that have tattoos? Is it only woman that aren't "Safe"

The trouble is any one can buy a tattoo gun from ebay and self-tattoo and claim to be something they're not. If you're going to these types of unlicensed people, then there are risks, especially if they have no experience or idea of sterilisation.

It's just archaic evidence. It was true about 20-30 years ago, but the industry has acknowledged and adapted since (for example, certain metal based inks mean tattooed people can't have MRIs).

I hope so anyway, otherwise I'll be looking at a sex change as I'm one of the susceptible females.

Then industry has not adapted. Sorry your wrong there.

Is no regulation to be had and ink manufacturing don't ever tell what's in their products so is no competition. Science proves many cases and reports that ink is not safe even the old natural inks...like carbon black. Carbon in body causes cancer.

Did you read post...it apply to men too. I just like tattoos on women like said in post

The industry has adapted, you're being ignorant and biased. .

Sorry I'm not and your wrongly informed. Have facts in front of me by way of two PhDs and whole stack of scientific articles. You live in a dream world if think industry has adapted

Disprove me adequately then.

The inks have changed massively over the years due to biocompatibility issues as well as improving the aesthetic result. Just because there may be little regulation, it doesn't mean that you are going to get cancer. "

Why should I disprove.

How about you prove your claim.

I have after all piles of scientific papers and PhDs here proving otherwise.

Not sure where your brain washed ideas come from

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where is these papers then? If you have claims and sources then show us? What's the hide. I have no problems admitting im wrong if I'm wrong. But I refuse to do so until I'm shown evidence

There are risks of cancer in every aspect of life now. Too much and too little of anything these days apparently can give you cancer. I better stay in doors from now on. But that might give me cancer. So I better go outside. But that might give me cancer also.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Science proves many cases and reports that ink is not safe even the old natural inks...like carbon black. Carbon in body causes cancer."

Your body consists naturally of approximately 18.5% carbon!

Where are all the papers on these cases science proves?

You clearly have no idea at all what you're on about and are making yourself look ill-informed and rather silly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd like to see a proper peer reviewed research paper on these claims and not just "hear-say" claims from a friend.

Tattoo's have been around for decades, and are incredibly regulated these days. There is so much health and safety involved its unreal.

And what about the men that have tattoos? Is it only woman that aren't "Safe"

The trouble is any one can buy a tattoo gun from ebay and self-tattoo and claim to be something they're not. If you're going to these types of unlicensed people, then there are risks, especially if they have no experience or idea of sterilisation.

It's just archaic evidence. It was true about 20-30 years ago, but the industry has acknowledged and adapted since (for example, certain metal based inks mean tattooed people can't have MRIs).

I hope so anyway, otherwise I'll be looking at a sex change as I'm one of the susceptible females.

Then industry has not adapted. Sorry your wrong there.

Is no regulation to be had and ink manufacturing don't ever tell what's in their products so is no competition. Science proves many cases and reports that ink is not safe even the old natural inks...like carbon black. Carbon in body causes cancer.

Did you read post...it apply to men too. I just like tattoos on women like said in post

The industry has adapted, you're being ignorant and biased. .

Sorry I'm not and your wrongly informed. Have facts in front of me by way of two PhDs and whole stack of scientific articles. You live in a dream world if think industry has adapted

Disprove me adequately then.

The inks have changed massively over the years due to biocompatibility issues as well as improving the aesthetic result. Just because there may be little regulation, it doesn't mean that you are going to get cancer.

Why should I disprove.

How about you prove your claim.

I have after all piles of scientific papers and PhDs here proving otherwise.

Not sure where your brain washed ideas come from"

Because you're making broad statements.

The Council of Europe regulate tattoo ink. Although the UK doesn't, the manufacturers adhere to these laws as it makes financial sense to sell one product throughout Europe. I do not believe that the Council of Europe allows carcinogens to be used and I think that you are either mistaken or stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why should you prove? Because you started the thread making claims mate.

Now all you're doing is sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "LALALALALA" because you don't want to hear our side of the argument.

Debates work both ways and so do opinions. If youre willing to give you're side then you should at least be open to hearing others.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Always liked tattoos on women, but has to be good art and have often ended up in in relationships with women partly covered or the likes of a sleeve or a leg.

Do like tattoos but dont have any myself as my mates an artist for tats.

During my youth when he was learning he told me "never get a tattoo mate, they not safe" I never did. He got cancer now and its been put down to all then lead and heavy metal in his body......his kidneys are full of black ink.

Tattoos, though extremely popular, have not historically been heavily regulated.

As a result, some tattoo inks have contained harmful and even toxic ingredients, ranging from metallic salts and lead to plastics, formaldehyde and a range of other chemicals. Today, many tattoo artists recognize the importance of using nontoxic inks in their work but the carrier solutions

contain harmful substances such as denatured alcohols, methanol, rubbing alcohol, antifreeze, detergents, or formaldehyde and other highly toxic aldehydes.

Then is the inks...

The oldest pigments came from using ground up minerals and carbon (known cause of cancer) black. Science has proved a wide range of dyes and pigments are now used in tattoos "from inorganic materials like titanium dioxide and iron oxides to carbon black, azo dyes, and acridine, quinoline, phthalocyanine and naphthol derivates, dyes made from ash, and other mixtures."  Currently popular is Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene (ABS plastic), used in Intenze, Millenium and other ABS pigmented brands.Auto mobile paint and industrial floor paints are often used in the bright colours.

Often see women on here with loads of tattoos.

People must think they safe or don't care if are or not?

This is basically very generalised scaremongering, unless you have any reputable scientific evidence to back it up, (which I doubt).

Statements such as carbon is a known cause of cancer is ridiculous. *Some* types of carbon via *some* methods of exposure are thought to be carcinogenic to varying degrees, but the human body is roughly 1/5 carbon so let's not be silly, eh? Diamonds are carbon. Carbon is present in every living (or previously living) organism. It's one of the most abundant elements in the universe."

I never claimed that. Its in the independent and also several scientific reports. Slightly different but they said don't eat burnt toast a while back haha why...cancer

The carbon black was one thing I personally thought safe. Its the other stuff that's bad and the carrier solution

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"I'd like to see a proper peer reviewed research paper on these claims and not just "hear-say" claims from a friend.

Tattoo's have been around for decades, and are incredibly regulated these days. There is so much health and safety involved its unreal.

And what about the men that have tattoos? Is it only woman that aren't "Safe"

The trouble is any one can buy a tattoo gun from ebay and self-tattoo and claim to be something they're not. If you're going to these types of unlicensed people, then there are risks, especially if they have no experience or idea of sterilisation.

It's just archaic evidence. It was true about 20-30 years ago, but the industry has acknowledged and adapted since (for example, certain metal based inks mean tattooed people can't have MRIs).

I hope so anyway, otherwise I'll be looking at a sex change as I'm one of the susceptible females.

Then industry has not adapted. Sorry your wrong there.

Is no regulation to be had and ink manufacturing don't ever tell what's in their products so is no competition. Science proves many cases and reports that ink is not safe even the old natural inks...like carbon black. Carbon in body causes cancer.

Did you read post...it apply to men too. I just like tattoos on women like said in post

The industry has adapted, you're being ignorant and biased. .

Sorry I'm not and your wrongly informed. Have facts in front of me by way of two PhDs and whole stack of scientific articles. You live in a dream world if think industry has adapted

Disprove me adequately then.

The inks have changed massively over the years due to biocompatibility issues as well as improving the aesthetic result. Just because there may be little regulation, it doesn't mean that you are going to get cancer.

Why should I disprove.

How about you prove your claim.

I have after all piles of scientific papers and PhDs here proving otherwise.

Not sure where your brain washed ideas come from"

You're the one who posted a ridiculous claim so yeah, you're the one who should be able to back it up when challenged.

Your claims about carbon alone suggest you don't have much scientific knowledge, if any.

As for PhDs, yeah, ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh well eh, so I have tattoos and one day I'll die, shit happens, and even though some no-mark who claims to have a PhD and a pile of scientific papers says it's harmful it won't stop me having more.

There's little point trying to start an argument or debate if you're not prepared to back up your facts, it's not for anyone else to disprove, it's for you to prove you're right, most people who have tattoos (for the right reasons) couldn't really care less.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"The oldest pigments came from using ground up minerals and carbon (known cause of cancer) black.

This is basically very generalised scaremongering, unless you have any reputable scientific evidence to back it up, (which I doubt).

Statements such as carbon is a known cause of cancer is ridiculous. *Some* types of carbon via *some* methods of exposure are thought to be carcinogenic to varying degrees, but the human body is roughly 1/5 carbon so let's not be silly, eh? Diamonds are carbon. Carbon is present in every living (or previously living) organism. It's one of the most abundant elements in the universe.

I never claimed that. Its in the independent and also several scientific reports."

Go back and read what you wrote!

"The oldest pigments came from using ground up minerals and carbon (known cause of cancer) black."

"carbon in body causes cancer"

Where are these "scientific reports"?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'd like to see a proper peer reviewed research paper on these claims and not just "hear-say" claims from a friend.

Tattoo's have been around for decades, and are incredibly regulated these days. There is so much health and safety involved its unreal.

And what about the men that have tattoos? Is it only woman that aren't "Safe"

The trouble is any one can buy a tattoo gun from ebay and self-tattoo and claim to be something they're not. If you're going to these types of unlicensed people, then there are risks, especially if they have no experience or idea of sterilisation.

It's just archaic evidence. It was true about 20-30 years ago, but the industry has acknowledged and adapted since (for example, certain metal based inks mean tattooed people can't have MRIs).

I hope so anyway, otherwise I'll be looking at a sex change as I'm one of the susceptible females.

Then industry has not adapted. Sorry your wrong there.

Is no regulation to be had and ink manufacturing don't ever tell what's in their products so is no competition. Science proves many cases and reports that ink is not safe even the old natural inks...like carbon black. Carbon in body causes cancer.

Did you read post...it apply to men too. I just like tattoos on women like said in post

The industry has adapted, you're being ignorant and biased. .

Sorry I'm not and your wrongly informed. Have facts in front of me by way of two PhDs and whole stack of scientific articles. You live in a dream world if think industry has adapted

Disprove me adequately then.

The inks have changed massively over the years due to biocompatibility issues as well as improving the aesthetic result. Just because there may be little regulation, it doesn't mean that you are going to get cancer.

Why should I disprove.

How about you prove your claim.

I have after all piles of scientific papers and PhDs here proving otherwise.

Not sure where your brain washed ideas come from

Because you're making broad statements.

The Council of Europe regulate tattoo ink. Although the UK doesn't, the manufacturers adhere to these laws as it makes financial sense to sell one product throughout Europe. I do not believe that the Council of Europe allows carcinogens to be used and I think that you are either mistaken or stupid. "

Clearly one those believe all that told by EU haha.

Sorry but your one those brain washed people

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The oldest pigments came from using ground up minerals and carbon (known cause of cancer) black.

This is basically very generalised scaremongering, unless you have any reputable scientific evidence to back it up, (which I doubt).

Statements such as carbon is a known cause of cancer is ridiculous. *Some* types of carbon via *some* methods of exposure are thought to be carcinogenic to varying degrees, but the human body is roughly 1/5 carbon so let's not be silly, eh? Diamonds are carbon. Carbon is present in every living (or previously living) organism. It's one of the most abundant elements in the universe.

I never claimed that. Its in the independent and also several scientific reports.

Go back and read what you wrote!

"The oldest pigments came from using ground up minerals and carbon (known cause of cancer) black."

"carbon in body causes cancer"

Where are these "scientific reports"?"

Here and the net is full of them. Ain't the room to quote all here and I'm too busy to bother. You don't agree with what I wrote no problem, but you have proved nothing to me other than your own misinformed information

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Clearly one those believe all that told by EU haha.

Sorry but your one those brain washed people "

You're ridiculous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you don't have any , why are you so concerned ??

Let us that have or decide to get them make our own conclusions about how safe they are

My grandad was a navy man and was covered in tattoos which I suspect he didn't get in this country and most likely under the influence of alcohol so wouldn't have asked what ink was being used on him and he died at a good age and not a sign of cancer ..

I love my tattoo and plan to get more

A x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Oh well eh, so I have tattoos and one day I'll die, shit happens, and even though some no-mark who claims to have a PhD and a pile of scientific papers says it's harmful it won't stop me having more.

There's little point trying to start an argument or debate if you're not prepared to back up your facts, it's not for anyone else to disprove, it's for you to prove you're right, most people who have tattoos (for the right reasons) couldn't really care less."

Good one

No no.mark

Live in real world

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Sorry but your one those brain washed people "

No, you are thoroughly ill-informed and have no clue what you're on about.

You're one of those who believes everything they read on the internet and in the media and parrot it out again to all and sundry.

It's funny that someone so gullible and lacking in any scientific knowledge, and totally unable to substantiate any of their wild claims, should accuse anyone else of being brainwashed.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If you don't have any , why are you so concerned ??

Let us that have or decide to get them make our own conclusions about how safe they are

My grandad was a navy man and was covered in tattoos which I suspect he didn't get in this country and most likely under the influence of alcohol so wouldn't have asked what ink was being used on him and he died at a good age and not a sign of cancer ..

I love my tattoo and plan to get more

A x "

Good for you. I like tats on women like I said in post.

Yeah your grandad likely safe as back in day most inks came from natural substances not chemilacls and non natural stuff. Its the inks of today not safe in opinion of science

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"The oldest pigments came from using ground up minerals and carbon (known cause of cancer) black.

This is basically very generalised scaremongering, unless you have any reputable scientific evidence to back it up, (which I doubt).

Statements such as carbon is a known cause of cancer is ridiculous. *Some* types of carbon via *some* methods of exposure are thought to be carcinogenic to varying degrees, but the human body is roughly 1/5 carbon so let's not be silly, eh? Diamonds are carbon. Carbon is present in every living (or previously living) organism. It's one of the most abundant elements in the universe.

I never claimed that. Its in the independent and also several scientific reports.

Go back and read what you wrote!

"The oldest pigments came from using ground up minerals and carbon (known cause of cancer) black."

"carbon in body causes cancer"

Where are these "scientific reports"?

Here and the net is full of them. Ain't the room to quote all here and I'm too busy to bother. You don't agree with what I wrote no problem, but you have proved nothing to me other than your own misinformed information"

If you had any scientific knowledge at all, you'd already know the human body is roughly 1/5 carbon and it's one of the most abundant elements in the universe!

You won't provide evidence, not because you can't be bothered or are too busy (not too busy to start the thread though ), but because you can't.

The only papers you have are The Sun and the sort you wipe your arse on!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you don't have any , why are you so concerned ??

Let us that have or decide to get them make our own conclusions about how safe they are

My grandad was a navy man and was covered in tattoos which I suspect he didn't get in this country and most likely under the influence of alcohol so wouldn't have asked what ink was being used on him and he died at a good age and not a sign of cancer ..

I love my tattoo and plan to get more

A x

Good for you. I like tats on women like I said in post.

Yeah your grandad likely safe as back in day most inks came from natural substances not chemilacls and non natural stuff. Its the inks of today not safe in opinion of science"

Yes, natural except for the heavy metals used. You don't know what you're talking about, you shouldn't be advising anyone.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"If you don't have any , why are you so concerned ??

Let us that have or decide to get them make our own conclusions about how safe they are

My grandad was a navy man and was covered in tattoos which I suspect he didn't get in this country and most likely under the influence of alcohol so wouldn't have asked what ink was being used on him and he died at a good age and not a sign of cancer ..

I love my tattoo and plan to get more

A x

Good for you. I like tats on women like I said in post.

Yeah your grandad likely safe as back in day most inks came from natural substances not chemilacls and non natural stuff. Its the inks of today not safe in opinion of science"

Not safe in the opinion of *you*. Who knows nothing of science, clearly.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sorry but your one those brain washed people

No, you are thoroughly ill-informed and have no clue what you're on about.

You're one of those who believes everything they read on the internet and in the media and parrot it out again to all and sundry.

It's funny that someone so gullible and lacking in any scientific knowledge, and totally unable to substantiate any of their wild claims, should accuse anyone else of being brainwashed. "

I've read your daft posts before...you drive a Scooby as you call it and talk about tyres etc with about as many facts as me here yet prove nothing.

Yeah your posts and answers are along lines of a dafty so I care little of your thoughts

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Weird!

I just did a quick google and found that there have been no scientific studies (the FDA in America started one in 2013 - still awaiting the results!) re the safety of tattoo ink.

So I'm curious as to your 'piles of scientific data' !

As someone with many tattoos - am I worried? Not in the slightest.

A

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"If you don't have any , why are you so concerned ??

Let us that have or decide to get them make our own conclusions about how safe they are

My grandad was a navy man and was covered in tattoos which I suspect he didn't get in this country and most likely under the influence of alcohol so wouldn't have asked what ink was being used on him and he died at a good age and not a sign of cancer ..

I love my tattoo and plan to get more

A x

Good for you. I like tats on women like I said in post.

Yeah your grandad likely safe as back in day most inks came from natural substances not chemilacls and non natural stuff. Its the inks of today not safe in opinion of science

Yes, natural except for the heavy metals used. You don't know what you're talking about, you shouldn't be advising anyone. "

And the carbon which causes cancer when it gets into the body, which is roughly 18.5% carbon

I wonder if anyone has cited their engagement ring as causing cancer. Stop the press! Science says diamonds cause cancer!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If you don't have any , why are you so concerned ??

Let us that have or decide to get them make our own conclusions about how safe they are

My grandad was a navy man and was covered in tattoos which I suspect he didn't get in this country and most likely under the influence of alcohol so wouldn't have asked what ink was being used on him and he died at a good age and not a sign of cancer ..

I love my tattoo and plan to get more

A x

Good for you. I like tats on women like I said in post.

Yeah your grandad likely safe as back in day most inks came from natural substances not chemilacls and non natural stuff. Its the inks of today not safe in opinion of science

Not safe in the opinion of *you*. Who knows nothing of science, clearly.

"

Well you know nothing about tyres or rubber moulding and design processes yet you discussed them at great length like some kind of expert haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ahh...read that in the DailyFail once...must be true

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Weird!

I just did a quick google and found that there have been no scientific studies (the FDA in America started one in 2013 - still awaiting the results!) re the safety of tattoo ink.

So I'm curious as to your 'piles of scientific data' !

As someone with many tattoos - am I worried? Not in the slightest.

A"

Just because its not on Larry's search engine. Don't mean shit.

Do you not know Google only searches 0.3% of the internet dear

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By *andomfodCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Are you one of these trolls running anti tattoo pages on Facebook? Lol I have a mate that runs a studio and health departments are all over them to make sure they're all in line!

That being said, anyone who gets it done at their mates' house, a shed or a tent deserve what they get!

B

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ahh...read that in the DailyFail once...must be true "

Been in independent, herald, Scotsman, observer and that shite rag u talk of don't make it not true it being in that paper

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Sorry but your one those brain washed people

No, you are thoroughly ill-informed and have no clue what you're on about.

You're one of those who believes everything they read on the internet and in the media and parrot it out again to all and sundry.

It's funny that someone so gullible and lacking in any scientific knowledge, and totally unable to substantiate any of their wild claims, should accuse anyone else of being brainwashed.

I've read your daft posts before...you drive a Scooby as you call it and talk about tyres etc with about as many facts as me here yet prove nothing.

Yeah your posts and answers are along lines of a dafty so I care little of your thoughts

"

The difference is I never made any claims about what "science" says about my Scoob or its tyres. Those posts were my opinions, with no claims of papers, PhDs or scientific "fact".

You're really making yourself look very silly as well as gullible and poorly educated.

You can't back up your claims and we all know it. My claims, such as those about carbon, are very well known. Why do you think humans are called carbon-based life forms?

Oh no! We all have carbon in our bodies. We must all have cancer. Call the National Guard!

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Weird!

I just did a quick google and found that there have been no scientific studies (the FDA in America started one in 2013 - still awaiting the results!) re the safety of tattoo ink.

So I'm curious as to your 'piles of scientific data' !

As someone with many tattoos - am I worried? Not in the slightest.

A

Just because its not on Larry's search engine. Don't mean shit.

Do you not know Google only searches 0.3% of the internet dear"

So 'dear' - would you care to name a single source to back up your claims?

Just one?

Pretty please?

A

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Ahh...read that in the DailyFail once...must be true

Been in independent, herald, Scotsman, observer and that shite rag u talk of don't make it not true it being in that paper"

Links?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"If you don't have any , why are you so concerned ??

Let us that have or decide to get them make our own conclusions about how safe they are

My grandad was a navy man and was covered in tattoos which I suspect he didn't get in this country and most likely under the influence of alcohol so wouldn't have asked what ink was being used on him and he died at a good age and not a sign of cancer ..

I love my tattoo and plan to get more

A x

Good for you. I like tats on women like I said in post.

Yeah your grandad likely safe as back in day most inks came from natural substances not chemilacls and non natural stuff. Its the inks of today not safe in opinion of science

Not safe in the opinion of *you*. Who knows nothing of science, clearly.

Well you know nothing about tyres or rubber moulding and design processes yet you discussed them at great length like some kind of expert haha "

And made no scientific claims I couldn't back up at all.

Unlike you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Here and the net is full of them. Ain't the room to quote all here and I'm too busy to bother. You don't agree with what I wrote no problem, but you have proved nothing to me other than your own misinformed information"

You're contradicting yourself massively here.

There is plenty of space to post links

You're to busy to provide source to prove you claims, yet not but buy enough to post here

How can we me misinformed if you won't provide proof stating other wise.

Your logic is questionable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Holy fuck........Life would be really REALLY boring if we stopped doing things, eating things, drinking things that 'could' potentially cause us harm.

Tell you what, I think I'll carry on the way I am. I'd rather go with a smile on the face than die of boredom.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've never heard of anyone getting cancer due to tattoo ink. Sounds like a load of blshit to me. I shall continue to collect more tattoos. I'm sure everything gives you cancer these days anyway.

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By *andomfodCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Holy fuck........Life would be really REALLY boring if we stopped doing things, eating things, drinking things that 'could' potentially cause us harm.

Tell you what, I think I'll carry on the way I am. I'd rather go with a smile on the face than die of boredom."

This! Nothing is safe in life and you will always be at risk of something. Do what makes you happy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

as someone who is heavily inked as well as a fully qualified tattooist i find this whole thread fookin funny!

and for the record before you try and jump on me about what ink i use,i mix my own so yes i know what goes into them and no i wont tell you my mix since i dont give away trade secrets to those of the unmarked variety :P

also all i can say to the OP is : when you started this thread surely you didnt think people wouldnt question your so called "scientific data"?!?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sure everything gives you cancer these days anyway. "

That true.

The OP's original post gave me cancer.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sorry but your one those brain washed people

No, you are thoroughly ill-informed and have no clue what you're on about.

You're one of those who believes everything they read on the internet and in the media and parrot it out again to all and sundry.

It's funny that someone so gullible and lacking in any scientific knowledge, and totally unable to substantiate any of their wild claims, should accuse anyone else of being brainwashed.

I've read your daft posts before...you drive a Scooby as you call it and talk about tyres etc with about as many facts as me here yet prove nothing.

Yeah your posts and answers are along lines of a dafty so I care little of your thoughts

The difference is I never made any claims about what "science" says about my Scoob or its tyres. Those posts were my opinions, with no claims of papers, PhDs or scientific "fact".

You're really making yourself look very silly as well as gullible and poorly educated.

You can't back up your claims and we all know it. My claims, such as those about carbon, are very well known. Why do you think humans are called carbon-based life forms?

Oh no! We all have carbon in our bodies. We must all have cancer. Call the National Guard! "

Having read few of your posts before. Clearly your a bit thick but obviously more intelligent than me eh haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think if you go to a proper place you will be less likely to come a cropper. "

Tattoos have the side effect of making you a greasy spoon owner in Weatherfield, socially awkward with a penchant for shopping bags and locomotives?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sure everything gives you cancer these days anyway.

That true.

The OP's original post gave me cancer."

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Sorry but your one those brain washed people

No, you are thoroughly ill-informed and have no clue what you're on about.

You're one of those who believes everything they read on the internet and in the media and parrot it out again to all and sundry.

It's funny that someone so gullible and lacking in any scientific knowledge, and totally unable to substantiate any of their wild claims, should accuse anyone else of being brainwashed.

I've read your daft posts before...you drive a Scooby as you call it and talk about tyres etc with about as many facts as me here yet prove nothing.

Yeah your posts and answers are along lines of a dafty so I care little of your thoughts

The difference is I never made any claims about what "science" says about my Scoob or its tyres. Those posts were my opinions, with no claims of papers, PhDs or scientific "fact".

You're really making yourself look very silly as well as gullible and poorly educated.

You can't back up your claims and we all know it. My claims, such as those about carbon, are very well known. Why do you think humans are called carbon-based life forms?

Oh no! We all have carbon in our bodies. We must all have cancer. Call the National Guard!

Having read few of your posts before. Clearly your a bit thick but obviously more intelligent than me eh haha "

Yeah, a lot more intelligent than you.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Ok OP.

Since you're reluctant to supply any data I'll share what I found.

From 'Science or Not'

"Obviously, millions of people have carried out their own personal experiments with tattoos. Although some people suffer allergic reactions from inks, there doesn’t appear to be any evidence of long-term harm.

My conclusion

I have to withhold judgement in this case. On the positive side, I couldn’t find any evidence that tattoo pigments are responsible for serious harm. Certainly, there are problems, such as allergies, but there is no evidence of generalised toxic reactions. On the negative side, there is no evidence that the newer synthetic pigments are safe. Many of them have been used for only a short time, they are not produced specifically for tattooing, and their use is not regulated."

From 'The Conversation'

"Tattoo ink

There is no doubt some of the chemicals in tattoo ink have been associated with cancer.

The red colours can contain mercury which causes cancer in rats and growth problems in babies of exposed women. But no definite evidence exists of linking mercury exposure in humans to cancer.

The greens and blues contain cobalt, which has been found to cause cancers in animals - however, the risk in humans needs to be explored further.

One component of black ink, benzo(a)pyrene, is a potent cancer-causing chemical and has been linked to skin cancers in petroleum workers.

Last year, Jorgen Serup, Professor of Dermatology from Copenhagen University, reported that 13 of 21 tattoo inks commonly used in Europe contained cancer-causing chemicals. Even the tattoo ink manufacturers admit that 5% of their products contain these types of chemicals.

How much is too much?

But even if these inks do contain components which have the potential to cause cancer, we still don’t know whether people who have tattoos are exposed to enough of them to actually cause cancer.

It may be that very large doses are needed, well beyond the exposure from tattooing, or perhaps only small doses are required over time. This is an important fact which needs further research before the link between tattooing and cancer can be confirmed."

From the FDA in America

"Research has also shown that some pigment migrates from the tattoo site to the body's lymph nodes, says Howard. Lymph nodes are part of the lymphatic system, a collection of fluid-carrying vessels in the body that filter out disease-causing organisms. Whether the migration of tattoo ink has health consequences or not is still unknown. NCTR is doing further research to answer this and other questions about the safety of tattoo inks."

So while it clearly seems there are potential concerns about safety there is NO scientific evidence to support proof they are in any way dangerous or cancer causing.

If you want to shout FACT about something - best be able to back up your claims.

A

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"I'm sure everything gives you cancer these days anyway.

That true.

The OP's original post gave me cancer."

I already had cancer due to all the carbon in my body but the OP and his posts are giving me cramp and indigestion from laughing so much.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One word to the OP " Owned "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry but your one those brain washed people

No, you are thoroughly ill-informed and have no clue what you're on about.

You're one of those who believes everything they read on the internet and in the media and parrot it out again to all and sundry.

It's funny that someone so gullible and lacking in any scientific knowledge, and totally unable to substantiate any of their wild claims, should accuse anyone else of being brainwashed.

I've read your daft posts before...you drive a Scooby as you call it and talk about tyres etc with about as many facts as me here yet prove nothing.

Yeah your posts and answers are along lines of a dafty so I care little of your thoughts

The difference is I never made any claims about what "science" says about my Scoob or its tyres. Those posts were my opinions, with no claims of papers, PhDs or scientific "fact".

You're really making yourself look very silly as well as gullible and poorly educated.

You can't back up your claims and we all know it. My claims, such as those about carbon, are very well known. Why do you think humans are called carbon-based life forms?

Oh no! We all have carbon in our bodies. We must all have cancer. Call the National Guard!

Having read few of your posts before. Clearly your a bit thick but obviously more intelligent than me eh haha

Yeah, a lot more intelligent than you.

"

^^ and since he clearly doesn't know the difference between your and you're im definitely agreeing with you

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By *ivilizedkinkCouple
over a year ago

harrow

Judging by what the op has written and the way he has listed things it looks very much like he has got many of his facts from Wikipedia (which we all know to be the most reputable and factually correct fountain of knowledge ) . Yes your right in saying that ink manufactures dont have to list their ingredients, but many do particularly thoughs sold in the EU

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd like to see a proper peer reviewed research paper on these claims and not just "hear-say" claims from a friend.

Tattoo's have been around for decades, and are incredibly regulated these days. There is so much health and safety involved its unreal.

And what about the men that have tattoos? Is it only woman that aren't "Safe"

The trouble is any one can buy a tattoo gun from ebay and self-tattoo and claim to be something they're not. If you're going to these types of unlicensed people, then there are risks, especially if they have no experience or idea of sterilisation.

"

What he said. I feel completely safe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was getting a bit bored of work till I stopped by here. Thanks for the giggle OP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was getting a bit bored of work till I stopped by here. Thanks for the giggle OP"

this^

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Sorry but your one those brain washed people

No, you are thoroughly ill-informed and have no clue what you're on about.

You're one of those who believes everything they read on the internet and in the media and parrot it out again to all and sundry.

It's funny that someone so gullible and lacking in any scientific knowledge, and totally unable to substantiate any of their wild claims, should accuse anyone else of being brainwashed.

I've read your daft posts before...you drive a Scooby as you call it and talk about tyres etc with about as many facts as me here yet prove nothing.

Yeah your posts and answers are along lines of a dafty so I care little of your thoughts

The difference is I never made any claims about what "science" says about my Scoob or its tyres. Those posts were my opinions, with no claims of papers, PhDs or scientific "fact".

You're really making yourself look very silly as well as gullible and poorly educated.

You can't back up your claims and we all know it. My claims, such as those about carbon, are very well known. Why do you think humans are called carbon-based life forms?

Oh no! We all have carbon in our bodies. We must all have cancer. Call the National Guard!

Having read few of your posts before. Clearly your a bit thick but obviously more intelligent than me eh haha

Yeah, a lot more intelligent than you.

^^ and since he clearly doesn't know the difference between your and you're im definitely agreeing with you "

My honours degree in Chemistry from a Russell group university, 2 years postgraduate work in biological organic chemistry and the Masters degree I am currently doing would suggest you are correct in your decision

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Sorry but your one those brain washed people

No, you are thoroughly ill-informed and have no clue what you're on about.

You're one of those who believes everything they read on the internet and in the media and parrot it out again to all and sundry.

It's funny that someone so gullible and lacking in any scientific knowledge, and totally unable to substantiate any of their wild claims, should accuse anyone else of being brainwashed.

I've read your daft posts before...you drive a Scooby as you call it and talk about tyres etc with about as many facts as me here yet prove nothing.

Yeah your posts and answers are along lines of a dafty so I care little of your thoughts

The difference is I never made any claims about what "science" says about my Scoob or its tyres. Those posts were my opinions, with no claims of papers, PhDs or scientific "fact".

You're really making yourself look very silly as well as gullible and poorly educated.

You can't back up your claims and we all know it. My claims, such as those about carbon, are very well known. Why do you think humans are called carbon-based life forms?

Oh no! We all have carbon in our bodies. We must all have cancer. Call the National Guard!

Having read few of your posts before. Clearly your a bit thick but obviously more intelligent than me eh haha

Yeah, a lot more intelligent than you.

^^ and since he clearly doesn't know the difference between your and you're im definitely agreeing with you

My honours degree in Chemistry from a Russell group university, 2 years postgraduate work in biological organic chemistry and the Masters degree I am currently doing would suggest you are correct in your decision "

Show off!

I just googled and used common sense!

A

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Ok, let's see...

Journal of the American Academy of Dermatology

September 2006, Vol.55(3):413–421, doi:10.1016/j.jaad.2006.03.026

Tattoos and body piercings in the United States: A national data set

Anne E. Laumann MBChB, MRCP(UK)Amy J. Derick MD

Background

Little is known about the prevalence and consequences of body art application.

Objective

Our aim was to provide US tattooing and body piercing prevalence, societal distribution, and medical and social consequence data.

Methods

Random digit dialing technology was used to obtain a national probability sample of 253 women and 247 men who were 18 to 50 years of age.

Results

Of our respondents, 24% had tattoos and 14% had body piercings. Tattooing was equally common in both sexes, but body piercing was more common among women. Other associations were a lack of religious affiliation, extended jail time, previous drinking, and recreational drug use. Local medical complications, including broken teeth, were present in one third of those with body piercings. The prevalence of jewelry allergy increased with the number of piercings. Of those with tattoos, 17% were considering removal but none had had a tattoo removed.

Limitations

This was a self-reported data set with a 33% response rate.

Conclusion

Tattooing and body piercing are associated with risk-taking activities. Body piercing has a high incidence of medical complications.

Supported by the Portes Center administered through the Institute of Medicine of Chicago and the Sage Foundation

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So, body piercing has a high incidence of complications. No mention of any complications from tattoos though.

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over a year ago


"My honours degree in Chemistry from a Russell group university, 2 years postgraduate work in biological organic chemistry and the Masters degree I am currently doing would suggest you are correct in your decision "

and as someone who knows what Virago means im not going to argue with you!

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over a year ago


"Always liked tattoos on women, but has to be good art and have often ended up in in relationships with women partly covered or the likes of a sleeve or a leg.

Do like tattoos but dont have any myself as my mates an artist for tats.

During my youth when he was learning he told me "never get a tattoo mate, they not safe" I never did. He got cancer now and its been put down to all then lead and heavy metal in his body......his kidneys are full of black ink.

Tattoos, though extremely popular, have not historically been heavily regulated.

As a result, some tattoo inks have contained harmful and even toxic ingredients, ranging from metallic salts and lead to plastics, formaldehyde and a range of other chemicals. Today, many tattoo artists recognize the importance of using nontoxic inks in their work but the carrier solutions

contain harmful substances such as denatured alcohols, methanol, rubbing alcohol, antifreeze, detergents, or formaldehyde and other highly toxic aldehydes.

Then is the inks...

The oldest pigments came from using ground up minerals and carbon (known cause of cancer) black. Science has proved a wide range of dyes and pigments are now used in tattoos "from inorganic materials like titanium dioxide and iron oxides to carbon black, azo dyes, and acridine, quinoline, phthalocyanine and naphthol derivates, dyes made from ash, and other mixtures."  Currently popular is Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene (ABS plastic), used in Intenze, Millenium and other ABS pigmented brands.Auto mobile paint and industrial floor paints are often used in the bright colours.

Often see women on here with loads of tattoos.

People must think they safe or don't care if are or not?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Sorry but your one those brain washed people

No, you are thoroughly ill-informed and have no clue what you're on about.

You're one of those who believes everything they read on the internet and in the media and parrot it out again to all and sundry.

It's funny that someone so gullible and lacking in any scientific knowledge, and totally unable to substantiate any of their wild claims, should accuse anyone else of being brainwashed.

I've read your daft posts before...you drive a Scooby as you call it and talk about tyres etc with about as many facts as me here yet prove nothing.

Yeah your posts and answers are along lines of a dafty so I care little of your thoughts

The difference is I never made any claims about what "science" says about my Scoob or its tyres. Those posts were my opinions, with no claims of papers, PhDs or scientific "fact".

You're really making yourself look very silly as well as gullible and poorly educated.

You can't back up your claims and we all know it. My claims, such as those about carbon, are very well known. Why do you think humans are called carbon-based life forms?

Oh no! We all have carbon in our bodies. We must all have cancer. Call the National Guard!

Having read few of your posts before. Clearly your a bit thick but obviously more intelligent than me eh haha

Yeah, a lot more intelligent than you.

^^ and since he clearly doesn't know the difference between your and you're im definitely agreeing with you

My honours degree in Chemistry from a Russell group university, 2 years postgraduate work in biological organic chemistry and the Masters degree I am currently doing would suggest you are correct in your decision

Show off!

I just googled and used common sense!

A"

Show off? What do I have to show off about? I'm a "bit thick". The OP said so and there are probably scientific reports that prove it.

I'm just doing a quick literature search.

Back in a min!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"My honours degree in Chemistry from a Russell group university, 2 years postgraduate work in biological organic chemistry and the Masters degree I am currently doing would suggest you are correct in your decision

and as someone who knows what Virago means im not going to argue with you! "

Most people either read it as Virgo or think I meant Virgo and couldn't spell it

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset


"Sorry but your one those brain washed people

No, you are thoroughly ill-informed and have no clue what you're on about.

You're one of those who believes everything they read on the internet and in the media and parrot it out again to all and sundry.

It's funny that someone so gullible and lacking in any scientific knowledge, and totally unable to substantiate any of their wild claims, should accuse anyone else of being brainwashed.

I've read your daft posts before...you drive a Scooby as you call it and talk about tyres etc with about as many facts as me here yet prove nothing.

Yeah your posts and answers are along lines of a dafty so I care little of your thoughts

The difference is I never made any claims about what "science" says about my Scoob or its tyres. Those posts were my opinions, with no claims of papers, PhDs or scientific "fact".

You're really making yourself look very silly as well as gullible and poorly educated.

You can't back up your claims and we all know it. My claims, such as those about carbon, are very well known. Why do you think humans are called carbon-based life forms?

Oh no! We all have carbon in our bodies. We must all have cancer. Call the National Guard!

Having read few of your posts before. Clearly your a bit thick but obviously more intelligent than me eh haha

Yeah, a lot more intelligent than you.

^^ and since he clearly doesn't know the difference between your and you're im definitely agreeing with you

My honours degree in Chemistry from a Russell group university, 2 years postgraduate work in biological organic chemistry and the Masters degree I am currently doing would suggest you are correct in your decision

Show off!

I just googled and used common sense!

A

Show off? What do I have to show off about? I'm a "bit thick". The OP said so and there are probably scientific reports that prove it.

I'm just doing a quick literature search.

Back in a min!"

Don't forget to check The Sun, The Mail and The Independant!

A

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over a year ago


"My honours degree in Chemistry from a Russell group university, 2 years postgraduate work in biological organic chemistry and the Masters degree I am currently doing would suggest you are correct in your decision

and as someone who knows what Virago means im not going to argue with you!

Most people either read it as Virgo or think I meant Virgo and couldn't spell it "

haha and my guess is the OP is one of those people

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Journal of Radiology Nursing

March 2012, Vol.31(1):20–25, doi:10.1016/j.jradnu.2011.09.001

Tattoos, Body Piercing, and Healthcare Concerns

Sue E. Durkin MSN, CCRN, CCNS, APN

Abstract

Tattooing imprints a permanent marking or design on the skin. There is an increasing need for states to set standards for safety and prevention of disease transmission. Minor burns have been noted during magnetic resonance testing with tattoos and permanent make-up. Body piercing punctures or cuts the skin to create an opening for jewelry or apparatus. Complications with jewelry left in place may cause difficulty with placement of treatment devices and can interfere with magnetic resonance imaging, creating artifact, distortion, or even injuring the patient

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So, burns but no mention of cancer. It suggests regulation is needed, but it may be an American study - the spelling is American.

I can't get the full text of that one though. I might check other libraries later.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Clinics in Dermatology

January–February 2008, Vol.26(1):30–34, doi:10.1016/j.clindermatol.2007.10.009

Permanent makeup: indications and complications

Christa De Cuyper MD

Abstract

Cosmetic tattoos, simulating makeup, have become very popular in the last decades; the technique of micropigmentation consists of implantation of pigment into the skin using a tattoo pen. The procedure can also be used to camouflage vitiligo, to mask scars, and as an adjunct to reconstructive surgery. Risks and complications include infections, allergic reactions, scarring, fanning, fading, and dissatisfaction about color and shape. Lasers offer the best cosmetic result for removal of unwanted tattoos.

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So, risks and complications include infections, allergic reactions, scarring, fanning, fading, and dissatisfaction about color and shape.

Still no mention of cancer.

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By *ivilizedkinkCouple
over a year ago

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How strange the Op has gone all silent. I wonder why. The moral of this tail is before you start a thread be very very sure you can back it up or the scientists will get you

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Ah-ha!

Science of The Total Environment

15 November 2009, Vol.407(23):5997–6002, doi:10.1016/j.scitotenv.2009.08.034

Market survey on toxic metals contained in tattoo inks

Giovanni Forte, Francesco Petrucci, Beatrice Bocca

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This one is very relevant and analyses 56 inks from 4 US suppliers for toxic metals.

I've downloaded it to look but it might take me a few minutes to read.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

Ok, the full paper is obviously too big to post here in full.

The conclusion is:

The practice of tattooing is largely adopted worldwide, but the inorganic components of pigments injected into the skin are known to cause chronic or systemic pathologies. The situation is troubled by the fact that no official controls on pigments used in tattooing practices are existing and this lack of controls does not make users aware about the risk for their health.

In this view, the aim of this study was to characterize the metal composition of 56 tattoo inks from market and to draw attention to the associated risk for human health. Data indicated that the relative metal contribution to the tattoo ink compositions was highly variable between samples, brands and even among like-colored pigments. Aluminium, Ba, Cu, Fe and Sr were the main metals. Allergenic metals as Cr, Ni and Co were above the safe allergological limit of 1 ppm in 35, 9 and 1 cases, respectively. Toxic elements as Cd, Mn, Pb, Sb and V were over the 1 ppm in a few cases, while Hg was in traces.

It should be taken into account that the time of contact between skin and tattoos is rather long and this allows a continuative exposure to toxic and/or allergenic metals with consequent accumulation in the body. For this reason it urges that authorities regulate permanent tattooing dyes and makeup. Moreover, it is unacceptable that companies that provide materials to be used in tattoo practice are unwilling to provide detailed information about chemical composition of the materials injected into the skin.

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Basically, 56 inks from 4 suppliers in the US were tested. Some contained metals with safety implications, some at low levels but still above recommended levels. The main risk focused upon was allergic reactions to the ink.

A lot of the references cited in the paper are also relevant but again, focus on allergic and dermatological (skin) reactions.

Reports of actual complications, despite the presence of these metals and the potential for problems, seem fairly rare.

I've found precisely nothing to suggest tattoos are a major health risk in practice, and certainly not a common cause of cancer.

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By *ogistical NightmaresCouple
over a year ago

Manchester Area

I (M) have one or two tattoos (make that 6 or 7). During one inking session got talking to the guy doing my tattoo about how they have changed over the years and how some of the tattoos on people who have had them done years tend to go more blue and the ink tends to leach and outlines / definition becomes blurred. He told me it was due to the quality of the inks used back in the day and that modern inks were a lot better.

He knows what he is talking about as both his dad and grandad were well respected tattoo artists. What he did also say was that the downside of some modern inks is that in SOME cases the black ink can end up collecting at the thyroid gland.

Does that worry me ... hell no. Don`t really give a shiny shite..... There are only two things certain in this life , death and taxes. We can hopefully mitigate the effects of the second but cant do jack about the first. You have but one life..... live it

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

So, over to you and your stack of papers and PhDs, OP.

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By *ivilizedkinkCouple
over a year ago

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Scientists 1 ill informed 0

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ahh...read that in the DailyFail once...must be true

Been in independent, herald, Scotsman, observer and that shite rag u talk of don't make it not true it being in that paper"

Ive just done a google search...I can find articles in The Sun, Dailyfail, and Huffington Post...nothing in any of the papers you mention (happy to be proved wrong if you'd like to provide links though).

I did discover the site 'tattooscurecancer' though. Their mission is to raise awareness with cancer ribbon tattoos...now that would be some irony hey

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Ahh...read that in the DailyFail once...must be true

Been in independent, herald, Scotsman, observer and that shite rag u talk of don't make it not true it being in that paper

Ive just done a google search...I can find articles in The Sun, Dailyfail, and Huffington Post...nothing in any of the papers you mention (happy to be proved wrong if you'd like to provide links though).

I did discover the site 'tattooscurecancer' though. Their mission is to raise awareness with cancer ribbon tattoos...now that would be some irony hey "

I found it mentioned in the Sunday Times but you need to pay to subscribe in order to read it.

It's not quite as the OP describes the situation, unsurprisingly. The hoohah seems largely based on some research at Bradford University in 2013, showing tattoos modify collagen and nanoparticles can make it into the body. There is a lot of supposition based on "potentially" this and "might" that but no facts beyond the nanoparticles bit. The research does not appear to have been published.

There are also some articles on a few eco and natural living sites that are bordering on hysteria and have wording suspiciously similar to that used by the OP in the opening post.

All in, the OP is a load of hysterical nonsense with a few bits that have their foundations in the truth (but are a long way off). I've found some interesting stuff though.

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff


"I'd like to see a proper peer reviewed research paper on these claims and not just "hear-say" claims from a friend.

Tattoo's have been around for decades, and are incredibly regulated these days. There is so much health and safety involved its unreal.

And what about the men that have tattoos? Is it only woman that aren't "Safe"

The trouble is any one can buy a tattoo gun from ebay and self-tattoo and claim to be something they're not. If you're going to these types of unlicensed people, then there are risks, especially if they have no experience or idea of sterilisation.

It's just archaic evidence. It was true about 20-30 years ago, but the industry has acknowledged and adapted since (for example, certain metal based inks mean tattooed people can't have MRIs).

I hope so anyway, otherwise I'll be looking at a sex change as I'm one of the susceptible females.

Then industry has not adapted. Sorry your wrong there.

Is no regulation to be had and ink manufacturing don't ever tell what's in their products so is no competition. Science proves many cases and reports that ink is not safe even the old natural inks...like carbon black. Carbon in body causes cancer.

Did you read post...it apply to men too. I just like tattoos on women like said in post

The industry has adapted, you're being ignorant and biased. .

Sorry I'm not and your wrongly informed. Have facts in front of me by way of two PhDs and whole stack of scientific articles. You live in a dream world if think industry has adapted

Disprove me adequately then.

The inks have changed massively over the years due to biocompatibility issues as well as improving the aesthetic result. Just because there may be little regulation, it doesn't mean that you are going to get cancer.

Why should I disprove.

How about you prove your claim.

I have after all piles of scientific papers and PhDs here proving otherwise.

Not sure where your brain washed ideas come from"

You make a claim, so the onus is on you to provide proof, but you refuse to back it up. What are your sources. I'm likely to say bullshit, just because you can't type a coherent sentence and you Iinsult people who ask for evidence.

On top of that a list of toxic 'sounding' ingredients aren't necessarily toxici in small doses, and to go even further most tattooists are more educated on what they put in their clients bodies than the average, non-tattooed person, it is after all their livelihood.

So, doubting what you say until you provide something other than annecdotes. Solid evidence.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Director of the University’s Centre for Skin Sciences (bradford) said....Evidence has been found that nanoparticles from tattoo ink can leave the skin (most likely via its dense network of blood and lymphatic vessels) and be transported to other organs of the body. The toxins in the dyes may accumulate in the spleen or the kidneys – the organs which filter impurities from the blood.

A study in 2010 by German scientists for the gov, suggesting that millions of people in the Western world may have transient or persisting health problems after tattooing.

To date, much of the debate around nanomaterials in consumer products has focussed on the use of nanomaterials in sunscreen. One of the significant toxicity concerns associated with nanomaterials is their ability to produce free radicals that can damage DNA and proteins. The extent to which nanomaterials in sunscreen can penetrate the skin is still hotly debated. However, unlike sunscreens, tattoos involve the injection of chemicals such as titanium dioxide (anatase and rutile forms), aluminium oxide and carbon black directly into the dermis.

Carbon black is classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer as carcinogenic to human beings. Studies have shown that carbon black nanoparticles can cause inflammation and damage DNA. This damage is believed to be due to free radical production. Furthermore, studies confirm that nanoparticles of titanium dioxide and carbon black are more toxic and generate free radicals to a greater extent.

Again in germany for the gov it appears that tattoo inks are not as stable in the skin as one might think. The study which investigated the fate of tattoo ink injected into the skin of mice, found that 32% of the pigment had disappeared 42 days after the injection and been absorbed by the kidneys.Whilst larger particles are caught in the lymph nodes, studies with rats have shown that nanoparticles pass directly into the blood stream and can come to rest anywhere in the body.

In 2009 a Chinese study injected either silver inks into the skin of rats. The researchers found that the inks did enter blood stream and then were distributed to the major organs - especially the kidney, liver, spleen, brain and lung.

Solid science shows that many of the inks used in tattoos contain carcinogens. This means people are having cancer-producing particles injected directly into their skin. Many tattoo ink pigments also decompose in the presence of sunlight to form toxic chemicals – some of which are known or suspected human carcinogens.

In 2013, the UK Royal Society argued that nanomaterials have completely different properties to bulk forms of the same chemicals and should undergo proper safety assessments before they are allowed in tattoo inks.

eu directive from 2008...Resolution ResAP(2008)1

https://wcd.coe.int/ViewDoc.jsp?id=1254065&Site=CM

UK Health and Safety Laboratory in Buxton lot of these products are quite complex in terms of their composition, Speaking generally, many of them aren’t necessarily provided with good documentation as to what is actually in the product and most of the time they are dangerous, we know this through testing in labs.

Toxicology department at the University of Edinburgh wrote a report in 2012. It seems that it’s the ingredients in nearly every brand of uk ink tested, that shows clearly is a danger and we need regulation, which is not in place.

A study in 2011 by German dermatologists suggests that tattoos may possibly cause skin cancer,also highlighted that there are no international standards that govern the ingredients of the tattoo ink.

The mixture of tattoo ink may also include carcinogens than can cause skin cancer. In the U.S., tattoo ink is considered a cosmetic and regulated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). However, the agency DOES NOT test the ink before it gets to tattoo artists.

Is loads more evidence.

haha was on a tablet phone this morning and it corrects everything in its own way. I know the difference between your and you're but who cares about that shit, your prob the people who have crap about spelling matters on their profiles. personally couldnt give a fuck who wants to know facts or not. these are them, maybe some of the posters should stick to pretending to know about tyres and cars rather than discuss something clearly know feck all about.

scientists zero

jack 188 in top 1% ya dafty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ooh is this a challenge to see who can Google the best?

My money is on the scientist who knows where to research, over the non scientist who hits "I'm feeling lucky"

Ok Google...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

larrys search engine only searches 0.3% of the internet and is a load of crap.

you want to search the real internet

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ooh is this a challenge to see who can Google the best?

My money is on the scientist who knows where to research, over the non scientist who hits "I'm feeling lucky"

Ok Google..."

i dont use larrys search engine to search unlike clearly every other daft on here

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"How strange the Op has gone all silent. I wonder why. The moral of this tail is before you start a thread be very very sure you can back it up or the scientists will get you "

what cus someone has to work, cant all sit about doing fuck all wasting their day on here like you clearly can

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"larrys search engine only searches 0.3% of the internet and is a load of crap.

you want to search the real internet"

What's the real Internet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How strange the Op has gone all silent. I wonder why. The moral of this tail is before you start a thread be very very sure you can back it up or the scientists will get you

what cus someone has to work, cant all sit about doing fuck all wasting their day on here like you clearly can"

Calm down sweet cheeks. They may have had the day off. No need to get personal.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Judging by what the op has written and the way he has listed things it looks very much like he has got many of his facts from Wikipedia (which we all know to be the most reputable and factually correct fountain of knowledge ) . Yes your right in saying that ink manufactures dont have to list their ingredients, but many do particularly thoughs sold in the EU "

nothing came from your assumption i used wiki. i bet your one of the many fools who uses larry's search engine. which dont search the real internet...about 0.3% of it, well your wrong about eu. have you even read the eu paper from 2008 nope

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know about tyres.

I know about cars.

I know the difference between you're & your (and also their, there and they're).

I know about tattoos.

I know the OP is a Muppet who possible ly wear a tinfoil hat....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"larrys search engine only searches 0.3% of the internet and is a load of crap.

you want to search the real internet

What's the real Internet? "

the rest that larry's engine dont show, its all the popular stuff that gets loads of hits, so you never see complete picture with google. FACT

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"larrys search engine only searches 0.3% of the internet and is a load of crap.

you want to search the real internet

What's the real Internet?

the rest that larry's engine dont show, its all the popular stuff that gets loads of hits, so you never see complete picture with google. FACT "

So how do you search this real internet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"larrys search engine only searches 0.3% of the internet and is a load of crap.

you want to search the real internet

What's the real Internet?

the rest that larry's engine dont show, its all the popular stuff that gets loads of hits, so you never see complete picture with google. FACT

So how do you search this real internet? "

He's saying he's using a Tor browser to access the deep web. It's very quick and simple to install, I use one.

Bigger all credible comes up on a deep web search either.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"larrys search engine only searches 0.3% of the internet and is a load of crap.

you want to search the real internet

What's the real Internet?

the rest that larry's engine dont show, its all the popular stuff that gets loads of hits, so you never see complete picture with google. FACT

So how do you search this real internet?

He's saying he's using a Tor browser to access the deep web. It's very quick and simple to install, I use one.

Bigger all credible comes up on a deep web search either."

Do I need sub aqua gear to go into the deep Web?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wanna live forever ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, just Google 'Tor browser' download, install and run. It's that simple (also very secure and can be used to bypass blocks put in place by isp's).

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

Toast contains carcinogens, even if it's not burnt - still having a slice or two for brekkie OP?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

OP, you note the Bradford research only shows some nanoparticles make it into the body? Everything else is "may", "might" and "potentially". It's not been published either.

Theories based on facts and actual facts established by research are somewhat different. Now if you insist on playing with a search engine, try looking for something more on your level.

Not wishing to get banned prevents me from suggesting what I consider to be more your level.

188? It doesn't count if you take the test 3 times and add up the results.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

He's not even right about the percentage of WWW content Google has indexed.

The actual number isn't known exactly (and changes constantly) but in 2009 (IIRC) Google estimated 0.004% (again IIRC).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I ain't got no cancer. I did all me own tatts with a busted biro and a pin.

*wipes nose on sleeve*

Yeah baby.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well now I'm so well informed......

Tomorrow I'm gonna wake up.

Get a bacon and cheese on toast butty (fatty and bad for me)

Go to the gym (risk injury)

Ride a motorbike (high risk of injury or death)

Get a new tattoo (cancer causing allegedly )

Have a pint or ten (all manor of risk)

Get me leg over (heart attack risk)

Go sleep (risk I might not wake up)

And you know what? It'll be a fookin good day.

Thanks for your concern OP but basically it sounds like large amounts of BS and think I'll ignore it

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"I know about tyres.

I know about cars.

I know the difference between you're & your (and also their, there and they're).

I know about tattoos.

I know the OP is a Muppet who possible ly wear a tinfoil hat...."

I do hope you're not suggesting I'm not capable of judging which tyres worked well on my Scooby and on my Civic?

*raises eyebrow*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is this aimed at just ladies? "

IM DOOOOOOMED!

Personally I think cigarettes and alcohol are far more dangerous

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over a year ago


"Toast contains carcinogens, even if it's not burnt - still having a slice or two for brekkie OP?"

I'm scared of apple seeds and daffodil bulbs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is this aimed at just ladies?

IM DOOOOOOMED!

Personally I think cigarettes and alcohol are far more dangerous "

this is true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was going to resist adding anything to this thread because I know nothing about tattoos, although obviously, having now read the OP I'm probably an actual expert!

BUT, having viewed his profile I see the issue, he's got his head stuck up his arse... I quote;

"Very bendy and flexible legs behind head kinda no problem."

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Why is this aimed at just ladies?

IM DOOOOOOMED!

Personally I think cigarettes and alcohol are far more dangerous "

A fifth (approximately) of your body is carbon, which causes cancer. You're fucked.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Wanna live forever ? "

Well, yes!

It doesn't matter which forum I'm on, there's always a conspiracy theorist or two on there, with proof of various horse pucky, and the qualifications to back it up.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"I was going to resist adding anything to this thread because I know nothing about tattoos, although obviously, having now read the OP I'm probably an actual expert!

BUT, having viewed his profile I see the issue..."

If I had coffee, that would have been a coffee over my screen moment. My laugh made the cats jump.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Why is this aimed at just ladies?

IM DOOOOOOMED!

Personally I think cigarettes and alcohol are far more dangerous

A fifth (approximately) of your body is carbon, which causes cancer. You're fucked. "

Don't forget the potassium and sodium. When that shit hits water (which we're 70% of, ish) its BOOM!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is this aimed at just ladies?

IM DOOOOOOMED!

Personally I think cigarettes and alcohol are far more dangerous

A fifth (approximately) of your body is carbon, which causes cancer. You're fucked.

Don't forget the potassium and sodium. When that shit hits water (which we're 70% of, ish) its BOOM!"

Well it's been a pleasure talking to you all, I'm off to combust, farewell x

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk


"Why is this aimed at just ladies?

IM DOOOOOOMED!

Personally I think cigarettes and alcohol are far more dangerous

A fifth (approximately) of your body is carbon, which causes cancer. You're fucked.

Don't forget the potassium and sodium. When that shit hits water (which we're 70% of, ish) its BOOM!

Well it's been a pleasure talking to you all, I'm off to combust, farewell x"

Drink and smoke more, you may not have much time left!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is this aimed at just ladies?

IM DOOOOOOMED!

Personally I think cigarettes and alcohol are far more dangerous

A fifth (approximately) of your body is carbon, which causes cancer. You're fucked.

Don't forget the potassium and sodium. When that shit hits water (which we're 70% of, ish) its BOOM!

Well it's been a pleasure talking to you all, I'm off to combust, farewell x

Drink and smoke more, you may not have much time left!!!"

How did you know?! Are you watching me

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

So many comments that are personal...dont forget people you can be banned for that.

Please be civil

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