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"When most of us were kids, we probably got our ass slapped and we learned not to be cheeky. You're not allowed to 'physically educate' your child anymore. Plus this generation is 'the entitled generation'. They expect to get everything they want." true but the programme was also about AHDD kids they said its frustration but is it? | |||
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"When most of us were kids, we probably got our ass slapped and we learned not to be cheeky. You're not allowed to 'physically educate' your child anymore. Plus this generation is 'the entitled generation'. They expect to get everything they want. true but the programme was also about AHDD kids they said its frustration but is it?" Then the parents should be educated about the disorder. That way they can deal with what happens. Could also be bad diet. | |||
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"I feel kids are pushed to do too much, too soon these days. They separate from parents at a young age (less stay at home mums) start school very young, are expected to be reading and writing ridiculously early. They have extreme emotions they struggle to express verbally so it comes out physically when they are under extreme stress. Really interesting see I can learn new parenting skills of another parent Add in that most kids TV shows violence as a way of solving problems. And I'm not surprised tbh. Lastly kids get almost no exercise! They are forced to sit down for far too long at school then come home and sit down for TV or computers. My kids are both proprioceptive seekers. Proprioception is our 7th sense. Shut your eyes. Do you still know where your feet are? Can you touch your fingers on opposite hands together? That's our proprioceptive sense. A lot of kids don't have a good proprioceptive sense. These are the kids who stamp everywhere. Who love to shove and crash into things. Who adore to push heavy furniture around. They are often afraid of the dark because when it's dark they can't sense where their body is in space. Imagine that feeling. Very scary. Proprioception is tied into emotional regulation. These kids need a good dose of proprioceptive input (crashing, jumping, banging, pushing and pulling activities) every day in order to remain I control of their emotions, and impulses. When they are upset, their body seeks to regulate FAST. So they hit and kick. Biting is another thing that give proprioception. My kid often attacks me because they just need that input. And because my kid's verbal skills vanish when they are upset. And often when they have sensory overload (eg. I touched them) or their expectations weren't met (eg. I gave them the wrong amount of milk). They had got to the point of attacking me around every 20 minutes. Strangely, no one really knew how to help. These parents, we, are left to it. Punishing increases anxiety and made them a billion times worse. I bought them a punch bag thingy and within a day their violence towards me was non-existent. I've also worked on teaching them to stamp their feet when they are angry. It's a HUGE work in progress. My other kid is a serial biter. I redirect to chewy tubes a lot (a sensory toy). And we are working on anger management for them. They do have a lot of problems. But even kids without a diagnosis can have a milder form of the same issues. It's well documented that the part of the brain that controls speech shuts down under a lot of stress. How else is a kid supposed to communicate their extreme frustration? Oh and we have used flash cards, sign language and a scripted sentence to repeat to show their anger to me without being aggressive. We've tried a lot of things. It's mostly working. The key thing, which I struggle with, is to only place them in situations that they are capable of handling emotionally. But unfortunately school is a legal requirement and it's a source of a lot of their stress. So as a parent you become a punchbag that's constantly treading on eggshells. And also fighting non stop battles to get support for various agencies. And going on training courses to learn about all this stuff. Browsing blogs of parents for tips and ideas. It's a 24/7 occupation. Hope this little insight helps. " | |||
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"As a teacher I see... Kids who have behavioural issues that are related to their condition - I'm totally understandable! But on the other hand.. I have met kids with severe behavioural issues because that's the way they are brought up. I have seen some parents swear, scream and push their children because they are late from school. Some parents only seem to have kids for the benefit and don't give a shit about them - all this leads to violent outbursts because their emotions are affected - I get annoyed with the parents here! For me, kids get away with far too much these days. They have too much freedom and not enough structure. They lack manners and respect - I dread to think about some of them breeding! It's a vicious circle, but ultimately if it's not a condition they are born with, it mostly lies with the parents and the environment they are brought up in. I know some people may disagree with me on my views, I'm talking from working with kids all the time. I have been asked numerous times by parents to diagnose their children with ADHD, Dyslexia etc so they can claim benefit or get free transport! Also I have had many parents admit they don't have time for their children either. I hate it when kids are violent, problem is kids know they have so many rights these days and are 'untouchable' -'this is where the problem lies. " I agree that although there are children with genuine problems, such as autism, many behavioural issues are the product of poor parenting. My step-son is a classic example. Strangely his ADHD and general behaviour improved massively when he moved in with us, got plenty of sleep and properly enforced boundaries. Not to mention doubling his reading age before he finished school. | |||
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"As a teacher I see... Kids who have behavioural issues that are related to their condition - I'm totally understandable! But on the other hand.. I have met kids with severe behavioural issues because that's the way they are brought up. I have seen some parents swear, scream and push their children because they are late from school. Some parents only seem to have kids for the benefit and don't give a shit about them - all this leads to violent outbursts because their emotions are affected - I get annoyed with the parents here! For me, kids get away with far too much these days. They have too much freedom and not enough structure. They lack manners and respect - I dread to think about some of them breeding! It's a vicious circle, but ultimately if it's not a condition they are born with, it mostly lies with the parents and the environment they are brought up in. I know some people may disagree with me on my views, I'm talking from working with kids all the time. I have been asked numerous times by parents to diagnose their children with ADHD, Dyslexia etc so they can claim benefit or get free transport! Also I have had many parents admit they don't have time for their children either. I hate it when kids are violent, problem is kids know they have so many rights these days and are 'untouchable' -'this is where the problem lies. I agree that although there are children with genuine problems, such as autism, many behavioural issues are the product of poor parenting. My step-son is a classic example. Strangely his ADHD and general behaviour improved massively when he moved in with us, got plenty of sleep and properly enforced boundaries. Not to mention doubling his reading age before he finished school. " I obviously don't know the kid involved but I'd like to point out that any kid with ADHD or ASD is going to improve massively with extra sleep, proper structure, etc. Doesn't mean he doesn't have that issue. Well done for helping him, sounds like you did good. | |||
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"As a teacher I see... Kids who have behavioural issues that are related to their condition - I'm totally understandable! But on the other hand.. I have met kids with severe behavioural issues because that's the way they are brought up. I have seen some parents swear, scream and push their children because they are late from school. Some parents only seem to have kids for the benefit and don't give a shit about them - all this leads to violent outbursts because their emotions are affected - I get annoyed with the parents here! For me, kids get away with far too much these days. They have too much freedom and not enough structure. They lack manners and respect - I dread to think about some of them breeding! It's a vicious circle, but ultimately if it's not a condition they are born with, it mostly lies with the parents and the environment they are brought up in. I know some people may disagree with me on my views, I'm talking from working with kids all the time. I have been asked numerous times by parents to diagnose their children with ADHD, Dyslexia etc so they can claim benefit or get free transport! Also I have had many parents admit they don't have time for their children either. I hate it when kids are violent, problem is kids know they have so many rights these days and are 'untouchable' -'this is where the problem lies. " As much as i agree with this i fear that we are in the second generation of i know my rights you cant touch me, Not only in School but parenting as well, As far as i know we are the only Animal on this earth that doesn't physically Chastise our offspring but hey every other Mammal must be doing it wrong because we are the superior species Gimp | |||
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"As a teacher I see... Kids who have behavioural issues that are related to their condition - I'm totally understandable! But on the other hand.. I have met kids with severe behavioural issues because that's the way they are brought up. I have seen some parents swear, scream and push their children because they are late from school. Some parents only seem to have kids for the benefit and don't give a shit about them - all this leads to violent outbursts because their emotions are affected - I get annoyed with the parents here! For me, kids get away with far too much these days. They have too much freedom and not enough structure. They lack manners and respect - I dread to think about some of them breeding! It's a vicious circle, but ultimately if it's not a condition they are born with, it mostly lies with the parents and the environment they are brought up in. I know some people may disagree with me on my views, I'm talking from working with kids all the time. I have been asked numerous times by parents to diagnose their children with ADHD, Dyslexia etc so they can claim benefit or get free transport! Also I have had many parents admit they don't have time for their children either. I hate it when kids are violent, problem is kids know they have so many rights these days and are 'untouchable' -'this is where the problem lies. As much as i agree with this i fear that we are in the second generation of i know my rights you cant touch me, Not only in School but parenting as well, As far as i know we are the only Animal on this earth that doesn't physically Chastise our offspring but hey every other Mammal must be doing it wrong because we are the superior species Gimp" There has been some instances where I wish they would bring back the cane! | |||
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"As a teacher I see... Kids who have behavioural issues that are related to their condition - I'm totally understandable! But on the other hand.. I have met kids with severe behavioural issues because that's the way they are brought up. I have seen some parents swear, scream and push their children because they are late from school. Some parents only seem to have kids for the benefit and don't give a shit about them - all this leads to violent outbursts because their emotions are affected - I get annoyed with the parents here! For me, kids get away with far too much these days. They have too much freedom and not enough structure. They lack manners and respect - I dread to think about some of them breeding! It's a vicious circle, but ultimately if it's not a condition they are born with, it mostly lies with the parents and the environment they are brought up in. I know some people may disagree with me on my views, I'm talking from working with kids all the time. I have been asked numerous times by parents to diagnose their children with ADHD, Dyslexia etc so they can claim benefit or get free transport! Also I have had many parents admit they don't have time for their children either. I hate it when kids are violent, problem is kids know they have so many rights these days and are 'untouchable' -'this is where the problem lies. As much as i agree with this i fear that we are in the second generation of i know my rights you cant touch me, Not only in School but parenting as well, As far as i know we are the only Animal on this earth that doesn't physically Chastise our offspring but hey every other Mammal must be doing it wrong because we are the superior species Gimp There has been some instances where I wish they would bring back the cane!" Damn! i agree again..Please post something Controversial Gimp | |||
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"I would never have dreamed of hitting my parents, and if I ever answered back - I knew not to do it again. one of the things I hate is when I've been punched by a child and I get asked what I DID to MAKE him do it! In the real world, it's ASSAULT and he should be expelled - never happens these days. Always the teachers fault. "Little Johnny was hurling abuse around he classroom and throwing pencils, I told him to stop it and to leave the room - he came over and hit me" I know of one teacher who got into trouble cause a girl went to punch her and she moved out of the way. The kids fist hit the wall and she bruised her knuckles. The teacher got into trouble for moving and not softening the blow!" Do you work in mainstream or SEN. If you work in SEN, then where should these kids be expelled to? Some of these kids are terrified of school because the environment is wrong. My kids would LOVE it if they got expelled. I am terrified they are going to connect the dots between hitting teachers and me picking them up for the rest of the day. Teachers need far more training on SEN. When I trained I wasn't taught anything about it. | |||
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"I feel kids are pushed to do too much, too soon these days. They separate from parents at a young age (less stay at home mums) start school very young, are expected to be reading and writing ridiculously early. They have extreme emotions they struggle to express verbally so it comes out physically when they are under extreme stress. Add in that most kids TV shows violence as a way of solving problems. And I'm not surprised tbh. Lastly kids get almost no exercise! They are forced to sit down for far too long at school then come home and sit down for TV or computers. My kids are both proprioceptive seekers. Proprioception is our 7th sense. Shut your eyes. Do you still know where your feet are? Can you touch your fingers on opposite hands together? That's our proprioceptive sense. A lot of kids don't have a good proprioceptive sense. These are the kids who stamp everywhere. Who love to shove and crash into things. Who adore to push heavy furniture around. They are often afraid of the dark because when it's dark they can't sense where their body is in space. Imagine that feeling. Very scary. Proprioception is tied into emotional regulation. These kids need a good dose of proprioceptive input (crashing, jumping, banging, pushing and pulling activities) every day in order to remain I control of their emotions, and impulses. When they are upset, their body seeks to regulate FAST. So they hit and kick. Biting is another thing that give proprioception. My kid often attacks me because they just need that input. And because my kid's verbal skills vanish when they are upset. And often when they have sensory overload (eg. I touched them) or their expectations weren't met (eg. I gave them the wrong amount of milk). They had got to the point of attacking me around every 20 minutes. Strangely, no one really knew how to help. These parents, we, are left to it. Punishing increases anxiety and made them a billion times worse. I bought them a punch bag thingy and within a day their violence towards me was non-existent. I've also worked on teaching them to stamp their feet when they are angry. It's a HUGE work in progress. My other kid is a serial biter. I redirect to chewy tubes a lot (a sensory toy). And we are working on anger management for them. They do have a lot of problems. But even kids without a diagnosis can have a milder form of the same issues. It's well documented that the part of the brain that controls speech shuts down under a lot of stress. How else is a kid supposed to communicate their extreme frustration? Oh and we have used flash cards, sign language and a scripted sentence to repeat to show their anger to me without being aggressive. We've tried a lot of things. It's mostly working. The key thing, which I struggle with, is to only place them in situations that they are capable of handling emotionally. But unfortunately school is a legal requirement and it's a source of a lot of their stress. So as a parent you become a punchbag that's constantly treading on eggshells. And also fighting non stop battles to get support for various agencies. And going on training courses to learn about all this stuff. Browsing blogs of parents for tips and ideas. It's a 24/7 occupation. Hope this little insight helps. " exactly this then throw into the mix a physical disability x | |||
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"When most of us were kids, we probably got our ass slapped and we learned not to be cheeky. You're not allowed to 'physically educate' your child anymore. Plus this generation is 'the entitled generation'. They expect to get everything they want. true but the programme was also about AHDD kids they said its frustration but is it?" ADHD my middle brother had it, 6 of us and hes the only 1, we all got slapped arses if naughty so wasn't just lack of discipline/control or shit parenting like in a lot of cases, nor diet as we removed all E numbers and artificial colours and sweeteners and it made bob all difference, he was different and difficult from day 1, his temper was frightening, as was his lack of fear, he was also incredibably bright, just easily distracted, very short ettention span, and got frustrated as a result. now a normal 22 yr old lad, but its a miracle he made it the lil sod! | |||
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