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By *hyllyphylly OP   Man
over a year ago

Bradford

Are Blurred Lines, by Robin Thicke and Got to give it up, by Marvin Gaye, the same song?

Well a Jury in LA, thinks it is and have awarded the Gaye family $7.4 million.

What do you think?

https://youtu.be/ziz9HW2ZmmY

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By *afadaoMan
over a year ago

Staines

I didn't know for sure a decision had been reached but I heard it through the grapevine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i believe them to be different.. i think that ruling is way over the top

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are Blurred Lines, by Robin Thicke and Got to give it up, by Marvin Gaye, the same song?

Well a Jury in LA, thinks it is and have awarded the Gaye family $7.4 million.

What do you think?

I can here similarities but nothing major....

https://youtu.be/ziz9HW2ZmmY"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was going to squeeze fab based lyrics into Blurred Lines for FPF, but I may have to rethink it now.

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington

The song as a whole sounds very different. It sounds like a sample thats been altered. You cant trade mark a style of music. The jury didnt even hear the full song. Ms gaye was hammimg it up for the cameras though, made me cringe

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Let's say you have an idea to cut costs at work. Someone overhears your idea and thinks it's good. Some time later they have a brainwave. However, it's very similar to yours. They've left out some bits and added a few new ones but basically it's your idea. They then get a bonus based on it thereby making money from what is, essentially, your original idea.

They argue it's all their own but clearly many parts of it are lifted straight from yours. Shouldn't you be allowed some compensation for that? After all, THEY made money from it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have to say having listened to the both of them although there is a similarity they are clearly different songs, think the ruling was quite unfair tbh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The song as a whole sounds very different. It sounds like a sample thats been altered. You cant trade mark a style of music. The jury didnt even hear the full song. Ms gaye was hammimg it up for the cameras though, made me cringe "

Agree with all of this. Couldn't believe how upset she was! Songs sound markedly different to me too

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By *carineMan
over a year ago

Armthorpe, Doncaster

I bet Pharrel`s not Happy now...

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Can understand why the musicologists have reached this decision.

There are not only striking harmonic similarities, (bass line is very obvious), but the rhythmic syncopations are pretty much the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its pretty well established that musicians 'borrow' ideas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

bollocks to robin thicke giving gayes family royalties he should pay me compensation that i had to listen to that shit.

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By *icky999Man
over a year ago

warrington

The important thing about this ruling is i still got sucked of by a stripper driving down manchester road while this song was blasting out the windows

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are similar but very generous ruling.

They say good composers borrow, great composers steal.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

The bass line is lifted note for note and the tempo and syncopation is identical.

Yes, they've overlaid a different melody and lyrics, but to claim it as a totally original composition is just blatantly passing off and copyright infringement.

Speaking as a musician (one that plays instruments, not a studio cut and paste merchant), I think the panel got it entirely right.

Currently, the track can no longer be sold until a resolution on the split of future profits is worked out. 50/50 would seem about right to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its happened to loads of songs before this but nothings ever came about wonder how many will try to claim now

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By *oe bloggs69Man
over a year ago

fife


"bollocks to robin thicke giving gayes family royalties he should pay me compensation that i had to listen to that shit."
some sensible talk at last!

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen


"its happened to loads of songs before this but nothings ever came about wonder how many will try to claim now"

It has actually, several times - Richard Ashcroft, George Harrison, Led Zeppelin to name but a few notable ones.

Often though, using samples or using parts of a song are done properly, in negotiation with the copyright owner, for a share of the proceeds.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Theme from S Express....S Express and Is it love your after..Rose Royce seem to remember Rose Royce complaining about that but came to nothing

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Robin Thicke is an arsehole so couldn't happen to a better man.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Robin Thicke is an arsehole so couldn't happen to a better man. "
You tell em Wyrd

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

There is a new song in the charts at the moment.... To me the verses sound rather like "I predict a riot" but slower.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For a better example, have a look at :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMvxfTe7h4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eiQTFcFPDY

Spot any similarity, at all?

Bolan claims his was entirely original. (Admittedly improved)

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

Doesn't sound like the same chords, melody, or words.

Sounds like a similar drum pattern.

Quite how that is enough to prove plagiarism is a mystery, but I haven't seen what evidence was presented in court.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen


"Doesn't sound like the same chords, melody, or words.

Sounds like a similar drum pattern.

Quite how that is enough to prove plagiarism is a mystery, but I haven't seen what evidence was presented in court."

It is exactly the same intervals, with the same stepped bass line between them - I think it's even in the same key, but A/B'd it to check. The Thickie version doesn't do the turnaround that the Gaye one does, Thickie simplified it in that respect, then he and Pharoah put a different melody line and lyrics on top.

I'd guess that in court they'd play sections of the two songs back to back and A/B.

Anyone who has a musical ear, or is a musician, will hear immediately that the underlying bas line, is identical, thus the verdict, which as I've stated (as a musician) I consider to be entirely fair

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Doesn't sound like the same chords, melody, or words.

Sounds like a similar drum pattern.

Quite how that is enough to prove plagiarism is a mystery, but I haven't seen what evidence was presented in court.

It is exactly the same intervals, with the same stepped bass line between them - I think it's even in the same key, but A/B'd it to check. The Thickie version doesn't do the turnaround that the Gaye one does, Thickie simplified it in that respect, then he and Pharoah put a different melody line and lyrics on top.

I'd guess that in court they'd play sections of the two songs back to back and A/B.

Anyone who has a musical ear, or is a musician, will hear immediately that the underlying bas line, is identical, thus the verdict, which as I've stated (as a musician) I consider to be entirely fair"

I concur.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sound the same to me.

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

I think the only fair way to compare Marvin Gaye and Pharell is to compare them to a wank and a wet fart...........one is gratifying and enjoyable.....the other is embarrassing and some what uncomfortable to listen to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should have just asked permission from the start.

Listen to destinys child~ bootilicious

That's been ripped by stevie nicks ~ edge of seventeen (which I love) BUT beyonce aske stevie nicks and she said yes and in the video for bootilicious she's actually in the beginning of the video playing the guitar!

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