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Barebacking without consent

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By *erbyDalesCpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

Just to clarify, I believe Mr Cracken is right. There was a time when the worst barebacking could have got you charged with was assault. However I believe, after Julian Assange, the Supreme Court ruled that bare-backing without consent is indeed rape, which is why he is where he is....

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swedish law

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Without video evidence etc - difficult to prove that consent to bareback didn't take place? Unless there were multiple witnesses of course! Xx

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By *erbyDalesCpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"Swedish law"

Swedish law yes, but to enable him to be extradited they had to consider the implication under UK law.

Not sure if I'm allowed to post the link, but it's on the CPS website.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

so are you trying to say someone you have had agreed to have sex with then the condom is removed could be classed as rape?

EXAMPLE BTW

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No means no. End of.

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By *eithoWoman
over a year ago

Chatham

Indeed. If the consent given had conditions attached (eg must wear condom) and those conditions were not fulfilled, the consent is invalid.

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By *erbyDalesCpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"so are you trying to say someone you have had agreed to have sex with then the condom is removed could be classed as rape?

EXAMPLE BTW"

There was an example somewhere....

In the case of Mr Assange, the UK court found that since the lady in question had made it clear that she would only consent to sex if he was wearing a condom, this constituted 'conditional consent'.

Thereby, without a condom there was no consent, hence he could have been charged under UK law.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so are you trying to say someone you have had agreed to have sex with then the condom is removed could be classed as rape?

EXAMPLE BTW

There was an example somewhere....

In the case of Mr Assange, the UK court found that since the lady in question had made it clear that she would only consent to sex if he was wearing a condom, this constituted 'conditional consent'.

Thereby, without a condom there was no consent, hence he could have been charged under UK law."

right i get it thanks x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you went bareback with HIV?

could you could be classed as a murderer?

Ignorant little wankers in my book

And if questioned i bet it would be oh i didnt think very unintelligent.

Her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wish I could take part in this discussion. Last time I tried I got sent to the naughty step.

No consent=rape.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"so are you trying to say someone you have had agreed to have sex with then the condom is removed could be classed as rape?

EXAMPLE BTW

There was an example somewhere....

In the case of Mr Assange, the UK court found that since the lady in question had made it clear that she would only consent to sex if he was wearing a condom, this constituted 'conditional consent'.

Thereby, without a condom there was no consent, hence he could have been charged under UK law."

Quite right, removal of a condom when that is the basis on which consent has been given is a violation.

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By *erbyDalesCpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"If you went bareback with HIV?

could you could be classed as a murderer?

Her"

Not under UK law no, since technically it is the disease, not the person who kills.

However there are a number of applicable charges, at least one of which carries a potential life sentence.

(Assuming the carrier knew they were a carrier)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about assault with a deadly weapon?

Trying to stay flippant for my own reasons

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

Or assault with natal consequences?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you went bareback with HIV?

could you could be classed as a murderer?

Her

Not under UK law no, since technically it is the disease, not the person who kills.

However there are a number of applicable charges, at least one of which carries a potential life sentence.

(Assuming the carrier knew they were a carrier)

"
Yes thats right, no different to pointing a loaded gun though is it, if proof can be found they should be put away.

Her

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By *erbyDalesCpl OP   Couple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"

Trying to stay flippant for my own reasons "

Flippant is good too

I don't often do serious posts, and whenever I do I normally regret it. But I saw a few shocking posts that I knew would be gone before I would have the opportunity to answer.

Thanks to the mods for letting this one run, I was sure I'd end up owing Fabio a fiver too

Still, I'll go back to talking bollocks as normal!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol. I try not to get too deep and serious. I have a propensity to cry if I do.

The sun is out and I'm feeling really horny. Anyone fancy getting the most mind blowing BJ of their lives?

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By *ustsomedude83Man
over a year ago

Berkshire

What if it comes off during the act?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"If you went bareback with HIV?

could you could be classed as a murderer?

Her"

no... however there have been cases in both england and scotland where people have been charged with in effect Grevious Bodily Harm (GBH) because they have not told the person they had slept with that they had hiv.... its comes under reckless endangerment (sexual transmission of HIV)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What if it comes off during the act? "
That is an accident, not with intent.

Her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What if it comes off during the act? "

In my view the then the male would know and should jump right off so that the female then is aware of it. After all it's the male who wod feel it first. Like everything make the rules and limits before playing and just be honest and upfront, after all we are all adults and know these things do happen

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I have heard tales of women trying to have bareback sex with men without consent too. One guy we spoke to had to bodily lift a woman off him.

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"What if it comes off during the act? "

Then you would be done for dangerous riding?, or riding Without due care and attention ?. .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you went bareback with HIV?

could you could be classed as a murderer?

Her

Not under UK law no, since technically it is the disease, not the person who kills.

However there are a number of applicable charges, at least one of which carries a potential life sentence.

(Assuming the carrier knew they were a carrier)

"
Would it not be classed as reckless endangerment ??

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