FabSwingers.com forum: Who is the greatest British historical figure of all time?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Churchill? Nelson? Wellington? Tell me your opinions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bill Shankly

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

I wish they would re run the great Britons series, that was brilliant.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Charles Darwin - shifted the landscape globally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God. Influencing peoples' lives since the year dot

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Darwin is a good shout, Brunel has to be mentioned for his brilliant architecture.

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By *illbillMan
over a year ago

dublin

James connolly

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By *rnortholtMan
over a year ago

Waveney Valley

Jenner - who pioneered vaccination. Now where would we be without that?

Or maybe Sir Alexander Flemming with the first antibiotic.

Then what about Sir Frank Whittle the jet engine pioneer. Like it or not the jet has changed the world from making mass air travel possible to all the produce that's now air freighted to a supermarket near you. Hard to see that happening if were still relying on planes powered by internal combustion engines.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Churchill? Nelson? Wellington? Tell me your opinions. "

Joey Essex lol

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By *illbillMan
over a year ago

dublin

"Churchill? Nelson? Wellington? Tell me your opinions. "
Wellington was from trim co meath .....was never proud of the fact

...famously said just because you are born in a stable doesn't make you a horse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boudica. What a woman!

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By *irtyAndCh33kyCouple
over a year ago

North Wales

Isambard Kingdom Brunel & Robert Stephenson for engineering brilliance.

Sir Isaac Newton for science & mathematics

They can be judged not only what they gave Britain but what they gave to the world

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I'll say Nelson, not only an English hero but from Norfolk too! P.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sir Frances drake, he put the great into Great Britain, it was he who looked to the sea to increase British power and wealth

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Captain James Cook, Shackleton.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I must also add John logie Baird and alexander Graham bell in the inventors category. Modern life owes much to them and of course Tim Berners Lee

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mr Bean

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

a shout for Oliver Cromwell anyone?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Elizabeth I, Sir Francis Wallsingham or Brunel.

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By *oconut2Woman
over a year ago

Nether regions of the back of beyond

"Churchill? Nelson? Wellington? Tell me your opinions.

Joey Essex lol

You beat me to it pmsl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Churchill? Nelson? Wellington? Tell me your opinions.

Joey Essex lol

You beat me to it pmsl

Margaret Thatcher (sexy too)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Robert catesby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mary Seacole

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

george stephenson

he had a fab house too everything water powered! even had a lift ! he'ya man!

just a bloke with a shed tho!

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By *rnortholtMan
over a year ago

Waveney Valley

"a shout for Oliver Cromwell anyone?"

Just not in the Ireland room - if you please!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"a shout for Oliver Cromwell anyone?"

No. He was a sour faced miserable cunt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sir Isaac Newton

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By *ldestswingerintownMan
over a year ago

Lancaster

has to be Charles Darwin - worked for years on ideas that completely changed the way we look at the world and emphasised our relationship to nature - led to a huge cultural shift

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shakespeare - his writings will always be remembered as classics and his name is synonymous with the English language.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"a shout for Oliver Cromwell anyone?

No. He was a sour faced miserable cunt. "
. Who banned Christmas!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Faraday or Berners Lee.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

How about Alan Turing, he broke the Nazi Enigma code in WW2 and invented the computer.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

This is difficult to answer. Do you go for a warlord who made a difference: Churchill, Nelson, Wellington, Marlborough, Henry V, Athelstan, Alfred?

A scientist? Jenner, Whittle, Darwin, Newton, Hawking?

Someone on the social side, Beveridge, Lloyd George?

The Arts? Shakespeare, Wodehouse, Coward, Bede?

Arguments can be made in favour of all, even if in some cases it may be said that it would have turned out much the same if they'd not done anything, ie, someone else would have invented it, beat the French, and so on.

However, Alfred the Great (the only Great we have) seems to tick more of the boxes. He was the last man standing out of the Anglo-Saxon kings and without him, this place would have fallen under the sway of the Danes. He revitalised the arts and laid the foundations for a unified state, work carried on by his successors, Edward the Elder and Athelstan.

On the other hand, this land fell to the Danes under Cnut little more than a century later, but by then it was unified land, the Anglo-Danish part, anyway.

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By *ustsomedude83Man
over a year ago

Berkshire

John Logie Baird deserves an honorable mention. TV has changed the world....not entirely for the better, mind...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isambard Kingdom Brunel. End of.

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman
over a year ago

West Midlands

Nye Bevan

Or Queen Elizabeth Tudor

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By *lovisMan
over a year ago

Twickenham

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff

Gareth Edwards...what a scrum half!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

me, lol

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isambard Kingdom Brunel & Robert Stephenson for engineering brilliance.

Sir Isaac Newton for science & mathematics

They can be judged not only what they gave Britain but what they gave to the world"

These and Fred Dibnah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

William Caxton another possible?

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By *ere-for-my-convenienceWoman
over a year ago

West Midlands

"Gareth Edwards...what a scrum half!"

Now that's the right answer x

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By *icolehertsCouple
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

Sherlock Holmes gets my vote !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your mum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Joey Barton

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By *v_heatherTV/TS
over a year ago

Leeds

"Gareth Edwards...what a scrum half!

Now that's the right answer x "

Surely Gareth Edwards, what a score

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"God. Influencing peoples' lives since the year dot"

I had no idea the 'big man' was British!! lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Queen Victoria, owned the biggest empire ever, and had a shit load of kids with someone who had a cock piercing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Queen Victoria, owned the biggest empire ever, and had a shit load of kids with someone who had a cock piercing.

Aren't them lot all German?

YaY to the PA Ring originator

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By *cotguy39Man
over a year ago

perth

William Wallace ??

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

Sir Christopher Wren an architect, scientist, Scholar, writer, artist.

Churchill was a war criminal & it was lucky he was on the winning side otherwise he would have stood for war crimes, Wellington on the other hand was a very strategic leader who was bloody good at his job.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Queen Victoria, owned the biggest empire ever, and had a shit load of kids with someone who had a cock piercing.

He didn't have a cock piercing . Just one of those things that everyone thinks is true but isn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has to be Tim Berners Lee. Invented the world wide web and then gave it to the world for free. He basically is the source of what we think of as the modern world.

And of course, we could not have this site without him!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Joey Barton "

He has lost the plot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Queen Victoria, owned the biggest empire ever, and had a shit load of kids with someone who had a cock piercing.

He didn't have a cock piercing . Just one of those things that everyone thinks is true but isn't."

He did but Queen Vic sucked it out by accident, so another reason to admire her.

(PS i'm not taking this topic seriously).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Captain James Cook, Shackleton."

Fyi.

Shackleton's Way is well worth a read.

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By *aro7Man
over a year ago

wickford

John surtees, James hunt, sterling moss, Barry Sheene, graham hill, Norman dewis, jim Clark,,,,,,,,

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

Mr kipling, for he makes exceedingly good cakes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bobby moore the only enlish man that will ever lift world cup

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By *aro7Man
over a year ago

wickford

"Bobby moore the only enlish man that will ever lift world cup"

Oh definitely, my footballing hero,,,,,how could I forget him,,,,,,,!

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By *icolehertsCouple
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

"William Wallace ??"

I always preferred Gromit myself !

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

Dangermouse obviously

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

Or an outside bet would be SuperTed.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

Sir Francis bacon xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Hmm nobody's mentioned Oscar Wilde.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hmm nobody's mentioned Oscar Wilde."

Maybe because he was Irish?

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South

"Robert catesby

The most important day of his life was a failure.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Winston Churchill gets my vote.

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

I think everyone has seriously overlooked Andy Capp

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Robert catesby

The most important day of his life was a failure."
.At least he tried at least he tried

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

And have we all forgotten about the media genius Rogar Mellie?

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By *illbillMan
over a year ago

dublin

"Hmm nobody's mentioned Oscar Wilde."
he was from Dublin Ireland...wasn't British

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Charles Darwin - shifted the landscape globally."

William Wallace!

Oh the controversy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Hmm nobody's mentioned Oscar Wilde.

Maybe because he was Irish?

"
. He was British actually, Ireland didn't become independent from the United Kingdom until 1922. George Orwell was born in India but was still considered a British citizen.

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

Honorary Brit, not many are bestowed with that honour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cpt birds eye...cause I fucking love his fish fingers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

William Willbaforce

Charles Darwin

Christopher Collumbus

There are so many that contributed in such varied ways you couldn't name one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"William Wallace ??"

You beat me to it!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Christopher Columbus was Italian.

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

Tommy Steele?

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

Mr Grimsdale?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Churchill? Nelson? Wellington? Tell me your opinions. Wellington was from trim co meath .....was never proud of the fact

...famously said just because you are born in a stable

doesn't make you a horse"

It has always been my belief that the man was a total snob. He objected to the railways because common people would be able to move around. He had no respect for the army that served him. As far as he was concerned, they were scum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Charles Darwin - shifted the landscape globally.

William Wallace!

Oh the controversy. "

ALFRED Wallace.

I'm such an idiot. Long day.

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

Am I in the wrong room?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"a shout for Oliver Cromwell anyone?

No. He was a sour faced miserable cunt. . Who banned Christmas!"

Lol, this is true !

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

I think Dave from the papershop is a strong contender, his shop is always open and his cheery smile when I buy my fags at 05.15 in the morning always sends me to work with a positive spring in my step.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

" Hard to see that happening if were still relying on planes powered by internal combustion engines. "

The Jet engine is an internal combustion engine, just not a piston one :P

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

"Mary Seacole "

Pleasantly surprised to see a Caucasian bringing her up but as much as she is now a forgotten hero I still wouldn't class her as one of the "greatest" Britons.

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

Lenny Henry?

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

Whats his name who invented dry rosst nuts?

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By *.nottsbloke..Man
over a year ago

the vale

Henry 5th gave them French a jolly good thrashing

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

What about Jimmy Kranky?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nat king cole ( unforgettable)

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

Beth Tweddle?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't believe nobody's mentioned Francis drake.

Plundered (stole) all the gold and used some of it to(bribe) obtain trade rights through the orient and India.

Came back the richest man in the world and the queens take paid for the entire war with Spain.

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

That cartoon bloke off the Tetley Tea advert

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By *anfiona2Couple
over a year ago

ramsgate

Hugh Dowding our REAL saviour in WW2

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

Biffa Bacon?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

tolpuddle matyrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Emmeline Pankhurst helping women win the right to vote.

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

Arthur Scargill

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

Captain Pickard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mary Seacole

Pleasantly surprised to see a Caucasian bringing her up but as much as she is now a forgotten hero I still wouldn't class her as one of the "greatest" Britons."

She won an award for being the greatest black Briton recently. My daughter studied her at school and hers is a great story.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Arthur Scargill"

He'd get Putins vote!

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

"Mary Seacole

Pleasantly surprised to see a Caucasian bringing her up but as much as she is now a forgotten hero I still wouldn't class her as one of the "greatest" Britons.

She won an award for being the greatest black Briton recently. My daughter studied her at school and hers is a great story. "

Your daughter studying her at school is a great step forward.

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

How about Shaun the Sheep.....always good for a laugh

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Thinking back, I'd like to nominate a person many may not be familiar with:

AD Wintle. A chap who you could call bloody minded, probably a nightmare to live with, but of a kind that they don't seem to make anymore.

He lost one eye at Wipers in 1917 and had to wear a monocle in his other as that was damaged, yet tried to escape hospital dressed as a nurse in order to get back to the front.

During the second world war, as France was falling he demanded an aircraft to fly him to France so he could try to persuade their air force to leave France and continue the fight from Britain. Upon being refused he then drew his revolver and asked again. For this he was arrested.

Whilst being taken by train to The Tower, the sergeant escorting him lost his arrest warrant, so after berating him for his incompetence he then marched up and down the train to find an officer who could sign a new one and when he couldn't he signed it himself to keep the affair in order. At his trial he didn't deny threatening to shoot the air marshal, but produced a list of people he believed should be shot as a patriotic measure. The charges were all thrown out, apart from the assault upon an officer of the air force, which the army gave him a light punishment for.

He spent part of the war undercover in Vichy France, with monocle and was captured quickly. He escaped, but was recaptured. He then went on hunger strike in protest at the appearance of his guards who he felt weren't smartly dressed enough to guard an Englishman. Then he escaped and came home.

Following the war, he was involved in commandeering a train as he felt their were insufficient first class carriages and a huge legal dispute over a will that he believed a relative of his had been chiselled out of by an unscrupulous lawyer. He lost the case, sacked his legal team and took it to appeal on his own. He lost that, too, so took it to the House of Lords, where as the case had become something of a cause celebre he was successful on a useful technicality.

Some quotes of his - I've got these from his page on Wikipedia:

It may have escaped your attention, but there is no fighting to be done in England.

"No true gentleman would ever unfurl one." (his umbrella)

"This umbrella was stolen from Col. A.D. Wintle" (note left in his permanently furled umbrella)

"No true gentleman would ever leave home without one." (his monocle)

"Stop dying at once and when you get up, get your bloody hair cut." (to Trooper Cedric Mays, Royal Dragoons, who recovered and lived to the age of 95)

A long post, but I like this chap, but I am also glad he wasn't ever a neighbour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Charles Darwin - shifted the landscape globally."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is difficult to answer. Do you go for a warlord who made a difference: Churchill, Nelson, Wellington, Marlborough, Henry V, Athelstan, Alfred?

A scientist? Jenner, Whittle, Darwin, Newton, Hawking?

Someone on the social side, Beveridge, Lloyd George?

The Arts? Shakespeare, Wodehouse, Coward, Bede?

On the other hand, this land fell to the Danes under Cnut little more than a century later, but by then it was unified land, the Anglo-Danish part, anyway."

Alfred also saved the English language, and arguably England. He'd get my vote.

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By *quirrelMan
over a year ago

East Manchester

William Wilberforce, Thomas Cromwell, & The unknown soldier.

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By *ntimatediscretionMan
over a year ago

eaglescliffe

"Well I'll say Nelson, not only an English hero but from Norfolk too! P."

I thought he was south African? and anyway... didn't he go to prison ?

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

"Well I'll say Nelson, not only an English hero but from Norfolk too! P.

I thought he was south African? and anyway... didn't he go to prison ? "

Please tell me you're joking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well I'll say Nelson, not only an English hero but from Norfolk too! P.

I thought he was south African? and anyway... didn't he go to prison ?

Please tell me you're joking"

MANDELA

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ada King, wrote algorithms that were the first computer programmes. Genius!

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By *ntimatediscretionMan
over a year ago

eaglescliffe

"Well I'll say Nelson, not only an English hero but from Norfolk too! P.

I thought he was south African? and anyway... didn't he go to prison ?

Please tell me you're joking"

lol please tell me you didn't really ask that question....lol

and every other pmsl out there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brunel, bridges, ships, railways, trains - changed the UK and the world forever

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hmm nobody's mentioned Oscar Wilde. he was from Dublin Ireland...wasn't British"

During His Life Time Ireland was British

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boudicca or whatever she's called now a days

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By *allipygousMan
over a year ago

Leicester

"Well I'll say Nelson, not only an English hero but from Norfolk too! P.

I thought he was south African? and anyway... didn't he go to prison ?

Please tell me you're joking

lol please tell me you didn't really ask that question....lol

and every other pmsl out there

I don't recall seeing you post before so couldn't judge. Plus there are some pretty dumb-ass people that do post so I thought best to check

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Christopher Livingstone Eubank

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Boudicca or whatever she's called now a days "

Def, she was a force to be reckoned with and led armies. watched a history program about her and she was awesome, terrifyingly awesome.

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By *lshere77Man
over a year ago

Wigan

Roland Rat gets my vote

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By *arold_n_maudeCouple
over a year ago

preston

Houdi Elbow - clairvoyant extraordinaire

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