FabSwingers.com forum: Meet the Ukippers

By *inaTitz OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

From what I've heard this should be interesting. Is anyone watching it?

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

"From what I've heard this should be interesting. Is anyone watching it?"

Is this the one about the grooming cover up?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I would rather gouge my eyes out with a rusty spoon. But I hope you enjoy the programme.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I'm watching it. I feel a little sheepish about this.

It's about Thanet and the UKIP stronghold there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

UKIP seem to have an endless supply of people who make the sort of gaffs that are manna to the tabloids.

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

"UKIP seem to have an endless supply of people who make the sort of gaffs that are manna to the tabloids.

Yeah, like that idiot who said that "the white man likes to play divide and rule"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

After that C4 'drama', 'The First 100 Days', no thanks.

I find the current political agendas by the networks to be divisive and biased, to say the least.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Nigel was in the area, the one he is going to be standing for as an MP, but he couldn't be seen in the area in case he came across anti-UKIP people.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Nigel was in the area, the one he is going to be standing for as an MP, but he couldn't be seen in the area in case he came across anti-UKIP people.

wasn't there another recent event where he had to cancel due to a protest..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The only problem I have is with negroes"......seriously? Wtf

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I really have a problem with people with negroid features..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hahahaha fuck me she's hilarious

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

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By *andS4funCouple
over a year ago

Lancashire

S is watching it

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

""I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

Some people like that were recently front bench mp's. Scary!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They're Jews they live in their community the have a bit of a hood nose"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

*hooked* nose

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""They're Jews they live in their community the have a bit of a hood nose""

But she feels betrayed and that she has done nothing wrong! You really couldn't make it up.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

Nope, propaganda at its best.

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By *andS4funCouple
over a year ago

Lancashire

Very disturbing

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By *anfiona2Couple
over a year ago

ramsgate

It's ok for you lot, you don't have to live here! Nigel Farage is possibly going to be our MP

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By *ibbyhunterCouple
over a year ago

keighley

remember it is the bbc and an election's round the corner ,

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"It's ok for you lot, you don't have to live here! Nigel Farage is possibly going to be our MP

If he fails to get elected there he doesn't stand much of a chance anywhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's ok for you lot, you don't have to live here! Nigel Farage is possibly going to be our MP

Stock up on eggs for Niges Rupert bear trousers meet the voters walkabout

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By *inaTitz OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

"It's ok for you lot, you don't have to live here! Nigel Farage is possibly going to be our MP

Yes, but you might get Al Murray

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By *anfiona2Couple
over a year ago

ramsgate

"It's ok for you lot, you don't have to live here! Nigel Farage is possibly going to be our MP

Yes, but you might get Al Murray

Hard to say who'd be worse

Don't forget we've also got bez from the happy Mondays reality party to vote for

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

Deeply disturbing, squalid seekers of 15 minutes of fame....and all from their oh so willing mouths.

You couldn't make it up.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"It's ok for you lot, you don't have to live here! Nigel Farage is possibly going to be our MP

Yes, but you might get Al Murray

Hard to say who'd be worse

Don't forget we've also got bez from the happy Mondays reality party to vote for

You will have the press permanently based there from 1st April. Anything could happen with those hustings.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"remember it is the bbc and an election's round the corner , "

do you think to counter their obvious left wing bias that the bbc should have edited out the 'slips of the tongue'..?

you know just to balance it out..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Deeply disturbing, squalid seekers of 15 minutes of fame....and all from their oh so willing mouths.

You couldn't make it up."

That's the thing, I know the pro ukippers will say "oh it's propaganda it was selectively edited" but none of the participants needed any coaxing to show themselves up.

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By *anfiona2Couple
over a year ago

ramsgate

"It's ok for you lot, you don't have to live here! Nigel Farage is possibly going to be our MP

Yes, but you might get Al Murray

Hard to say who'd be worse

Don't forget we've also got bez from the happy Mondays reality party to vote for

You will have the press permanently based there from 1st April. Anything could happen with those hustings.

Indeed, I shall be watching with interest

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

""I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

It's amazing that these people are holding positions of influence and power. This woman who thought stating negroid features was ok, because it was just a description. She admits she dislikes them because of their features, not because of who they are as people - unbelievable!

I'm never going to start a clown collection after seeing this show.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was distracted at first, as a lily livered liberal, by what seems to be an appalling lack of decent gentlemen's hairdressers in Thanet. That afflicted both left wing and right wing as far as I could see.

I don't agree with UKIP, but understood the pain that their press officer was going through before she resigned. Some of the things that some UKIP representatives said should have been truly embarrassing for the party. On the other hand, I admired the way some of the party officials stood up to the ranting and in your face raving from people who stood for the left (who were even more in need of a good barber).

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

"Deeply disturbing, squalid seekers of 15 minutes of fame....and all from their oh so willing mouths.

You couldn't make it up.

That's the thing, I know the pro ukippers will say "oh it's propaganda it was selectively edited" but none of the participants needed any coaxing to show themselves up."

"The white man likes to play divide and rule"

"The British invented racism"

"Blonde haired blue eyed Finns should not be nurses as they have never seen a black person"

What do people think of those quotes?

They were made by a high profile labour front bench mp and leadership candidate. This mp has not been expelled from the party as this ukip non entity has been.

Can people really not see that there are idiots in all parties?

I honestly believe that BS like this only serves to help ukip, it certainly did in the euro elections.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I've learnt from nearly twenty years in the green party is.

Nobody actually wants to be saved.

You can impose your own views on people but in the end there'll vote like they always have done, in their own interests and with their own moral judgement.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Which Labour MP are you talking about?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like kippers.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

Whilst I don't support UKIP's main policy of the UK leaving the EU I also don't think that believing that that is a good idea is necessarily racist.

However, as we are seeing very clearly in the case of UKIP, having such a policy will attract both xenophobes and racists.

I personably will not be playing the race card against UKIP as I believe that the issues of our EU membership are serious enough and, presented well and properly, the arguments for are continued membership will win out in a free and open discussion of the issues.

Some of these arguments have been made on this forum under UKIP, UKIP 2 and UKIP 3 (which I'm just about to start up after I've finished this post)

But I do find it difficult not to have a little chuckle to myself every time a UKIPper scores yet another own goal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Diane abbot obviously

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Couldn't believe what I was hearing!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's just media bullshit, first they push left wing tax evading jingoism, then they push right wing benefit cheating, then they push ukip racism.

It's bollocks like thousands of poppies pouring out of castles, it's subliminal messaging that they want to rub off on the very bad things they do.

Good wars/bad wars merge into patriotism so now you don't see bad wars you just patriots and patriots never do anything bad!.

Benefit cheats and immigration and racism all roll into one, so you can't question anything without being attached to the idiots that they portray.

It's a constant bombardment of the people in such an intricate arrangement that most people can't see any facts or can't debate anything without being connected to the subliminal message they've attached to it.

the 911 fallout goes on 15 years after its ending.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

""I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

Good job she was expelled from the party really. In other news tonight Jack Straw (former Labour Home secretary) and Malcolm Rifkind (Conservative MP) both hitting the headlines for accepting cash bribes in exchange for "influence" in government. Seems the Labour party have now suspended Jack Straw but will he be expelled or Malcolm Rifkind for that matter?........I doubt it.

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

""I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

You missed the bit about why chuka umana avoided answering questions about tax dodging 5 times on the telly. Apparently he has just received a £5k tax free payment from a company in Dubai!

Couldn't bloody make it up!

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Woman's Hour is looking at every party and women standing. Today it's UKIP.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Thanks Lickety - I'm a big Womans Hour regular, so will get it on.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

It's very telling that the Ukippers on Fab are far more interested in trying to draw attention to issues in other parties than looking at the racists in their own party of choice.

It's the same every time a prominent Ukipper makes one of their tediously regular racist gaffes. 'No, UKIP aren't racist! Look over there!'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find it very very sad that not one of the main political parties (or the fringe 'Green Party for all its whining about wanting to be included) are able to take on UKIPs gaining traction in the political landscape and challenge it with sensible debate and counter arguments.

Instead, the 'opiate of the masses' has been deployed to try and 'hatchet-job' them though editorializing and detestable dramatizations.

Is this what the political landscape has been reduced to?

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Thanks Lickety - I'm a big Womans Hour regular, so will get it on."

They are coming across well. Clear, coherent and consistent in their views.

WH have had to make the point that they are not singling out UKIP for this feature as they have already done the main parties and Plaid Cymru.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"I find it very very sad that not one of the main political parties (or the fringe 'Green Party for all its whining about wanting to be included) are able to take on UKIPs gaining traction in the political landscape and challenge it with sensible debate and counter arguments.

People who support UKIP are doing so out of blind prejudice and ignorance. Sensible debate or argument will not change that.

Of course, neither will holding up a mirror to the party's racism, or mocking the party's 'policies' through satire and drama, so it's a moot point anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No one wants to directly challenge UKIP, they would rather undermine them through media subversion.

Why? Because theirs a real proability that UKIP will hold a power balance post the election in May and all three main parties realise that a coalition with them is a real political prospect - so no one wants to really piss them off because they may have to cosy up to them.

Thats why Farage hasn't announced a full-on manifesto and policies - and he wont. Hes seen the drubbing the Lib-Dems have taken after getting steamrollered by the Tories in coalition and how they've turned themselves into a 'political wilderness' party for the next 12 years.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I do find it lamentable that policies and rhetoric seem to have been lost to politics today.

I think Alec Salmond may end up being the kingmaker, rather than Nigel Garage, though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who support UKIP are doing so out of blind prejudice and ignorance. Sensible debate or argument will not change that.

Of course, neither will holding up a mirror to the party's racism, or mocking the party's 'policies' through satire and drama, so it's a moot point anyway."

People are voting UKIP becuase

a) The Tories have fucked every front line service in this country and will keep fucking them if re-elected

b) Labour have Ed Milliband and no sense of direction. Plus they are blamed with sleepwalking this country into the financial crisis.

c) The Lib Dems sold their souls to get a taste of power, then got fucked over by the Tories. Who wants to vote for a party that rolls over on its principles?

d) The Green Party have no clue whatsoever.

Yes, UKIP are feeding into the fears of many. They are also taking advantage of a political vacuum. This not their fault, that's the fault of every other major party.

History tells us that far-right ideology often rises up in times of great financial and social upheaval. Liberalisim goes out of the window when there's not enough for you and even less for everyone else.

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By *luezuluMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

Sits, watches and smiles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

""I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

You missed the bit about why chuka umana avoided answering questions about tax dodging 5 times on the telly. Apparently he has just received a £5k tax free payment from a company in Dubai!

Couldn't bloody make it up!"

These are good examples of the current media bias against Ukip.

They don't even try to hide it. For example. The Daily Mail's headline on the website the other day showed Farage posing for a photo with an unknown face from the general public who god knows how many weeks/months/years later was on the Paris tube with a gang of Chelsea supporters who stopped a black guy boarding. (there is no evidence that he was involved in incident just that he was there BTW) The anti Ukip mob were falling over themselves to find a link and sure enough they found one, obscure yes but one was found.

Then today we have a story about two former ministers of the crown caught with their fingers well and truly in the till. Where is the story? top of the page? Not bloody likely. It's buried below the Oscars, the weather, three story's about IS. a moan about supermarket checkout's, and how to save a few quid on a train ticket. No bias? My arse.

Like all of the other party's Ukip has its share of nutters and fruitcakes and I have no problem with the worst ones being exposed. But until we get similar programmes such as "Meet the Lefties/Greenies/Tory's Etc. then programmes like this will always be, rightly, accused of bias.

I missed out Lib Dems because there are not enough left to meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I do find it lamentable that policies and rhetoric seem to have been lost to politics today.

I think Alec Salmond may end up being the kingmaker, rather than Nigel Garage, though.

This is the most likely scenario. The SNP will win a lot of seats. For their support the SNP will demand further devolution of powers to Scotland while maintaining influence over English, Welsh and Northern Irish legislation. Will the main parties sell their souls to secure power or refuse to be blackmailed??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think ukip gave already peaked, and I'll go out on a limb and say not only won't they win a single seat in their own right but that reckless will lose his seat (carswell might hold his but with a slim majority).

N.B. Nige is so incoincidental that the spell check doesn't even recognise the name and constantly changes it to garage

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

"I do find it lamentable that policies and rhetoric seem to have been lost to politics today.

I think Alec Salmond may end up being the kingmaker, rather than Nigel Garage, though.

I did like the lib dems response to this scenario on question time a couple of weeks ago. He basically said that he couldn't envisage any party going into a coalition with a party whose main aim is the break up of the country!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

You missed the bit about why chuka umana avoided answering questions about tax dodging 5 times on the telly. Apparently he has just received a £5k tax free payment from a company in Dubai!

Couldn't bloody make it up!

These are good examples of the current media bias against Ukip.

I missed out Lib Dems because there are not enough left to meet.

Because tge press have never slated any other party ever have they?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Instead, the 'opiate of the masses' has been deployed to try and 'hatchet-job' them though editorializing and detestable dramatizations.

Is this what the political landscape has been reduced to? "

Reduced to? Twas ever thus. It was just a damn sight more subtle. At least now the various media biases are blase and obvious. Believe nothing!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I do find it lamentable that policies and rhetoric seem to have been lost to politics today.

I think Alec Salmond may end up being the kingmaker, rather than Nigel Garage, though.

How does the saying go, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely! They will all do whatever it takes to secure power when the time comes.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

""I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

You missed the bit about why chuka umana avoided answering questions about tax dodging 5 times on the telly. Apparently he has just received a £5k tax free payment from a company in Dubai!

Couldn't bloody make it up!

These are good examples of the current media bias against Ukip.

I missed out Lib Dems because there are not enough left to meet.

Because tge press have never slated any other party ever have they?

the irony of those on the right moaning because the daily mail is having a go at ukip and not affording the same scrutiny to the tories..

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By *luezuluMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

""I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

You missed the bit about why chuka umana avoided answering questions about tax dodging 5 times on the telly. Apparently he has just received a £5k tax free payment from a company in Dubai!

Couldn't bloody make it up!

These are good examples of the current media bias against Ukip.

I missed out Lib Dems because there are not enough left to meet.

Great post.

We all know the media is biased, like the big two and half parties they are running scared that the upstarts from UKIP might up set the apple cart and start changing things.

Sits, watches and smiles

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

""I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

You missed the bit about why chuka umana avoided answering questions about tax dodging 5 times on the telly. Apparently he has just received a £5k tax free payment from a company in Dubai!

Couldn't bloody make it up!

These are good examples of the current media bias against Ukip.

I missed out Lib Dems because there are not enough left to meet.

Because tge press have never slated any other party ever have they?

Of course they have, but to this extent? I think (know) not.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Would anyone bemoaning 'bias' that they perceive with the programme (which ukip were more than happy to go along with btw) have wanted the comments in question to have been edited out..?

and if anyone does think that then they would have to have the same view for when other members in other parties show the same ignorant and racist opinions yes..?

is it that with some the opinion is ok..?

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

While the media is clearly guilty of helping do its bit to make UKIP look like fools, they are also guilty of giving a tiny minority party disproportionate media coverage.

So, the media has also shown extreme bias to UKIP's advantage. Yet you don't get many ukippers frothing at the mouth over that, oddly enough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

You missed the bit about why chuka umana avoided answering questions about tax dodging 5 times on the telly. Apparently he has just received a £5k tax free payment from a company in Dubai!

Couldn't bloody make it up!

These are good examples of the current media bias against Ukip.

I missed out Lib Dems because there are not enough left to meet.

Because tge press have never slated any other party ever have they?

Of course they have, but to this extent? I think (know) not."

Then you have a very selective memory. Labour have been attacked by the media for as long as I can remember.

On the subject of media biasis how do you feel about UKIPs disproportionate appearances on QT? Or their proposed participation in the pre-election TV debates? Or is that different?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"While the media is clearly guilty of helping do its bit to make UKIP look like fools, they are also guilty of giving a tiny minority party disproportionate media coverage.

So, the media has also shown extreme bias to UKIP's advantage. Yet you don't get many ukippers frothing at the mouth over that, oddly enough."

what some can't accept is that whilst there are members of this party who continue to act in such a way that the 'media' find so news worthy, the answer is with the party in how it has been a purely immigration is bad party to where they are trying to take it to now..

it has attracted those who are only interested in one aspect and its those who keep opening their mouths and letting their ignorant racism flow out..

the issue has become less about their policies across the board and immigration only..

blaming the messenger is the wrong tack, sort the issue out..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On a slightly separate but related subject, did anyone see the results of the survey by YouGov that reviewed voting intention? It then asked whether any of those people felt that they held prejudiced views about race, and then asked if they felt they held racist views.

For anyone discussing media bias here, the results were interesting ...

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

""I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

You missed the bit about why chuka umana avoided answering questions about tax dodging 5 times on the telly. Apparently he has just received a £5k tax free payment from a company in Dubai!

Couldn't bloody make it up!

These are good examples of the current media bias against Ukip.

I missed out Lib Dems because there are not enough left to meet.

Great post.

We all know the media is biased, like the big two and half parties they are running scared that the upstarts from UKIP might up set the apple cart and start changing things.

Sits, watches and smiles"

Having watched the programme my overwhelming feeling was pity for such a cast of sad dysfunctional people

However I suppose they have managed to get the attention they crave.

Surely the staunchest UKIP supporter must have felt dismayed with the quality of those charged with driving Farage's election campaign in Thanet

Meanwhile..Sits, watches and smiles

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over a year ago

""I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

You missed the bit about why chuka umana avoided answering questions about tax dodging 5 times on the telly. Apparently he has just received a £5k tax free payment from a company in Dubai!

Couldn't bloody make it up!

These are good examples of the current media bias against Ukip.

I missed out Lib Dems because there are not enough left to meet.

Seems very selective about the news you've seen in the papers over the past months.

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

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""I need to take her aside and suggest, actually you need to tone down some of these comments... I just sat there thinking, and you're a councillor already."

You can't make it up.

You missed the bit about why chuka umana avoided answering questions about tax dodging 5 times on the telly. Apparently he has just received a £5k tax free payment from a company in Dubai!

Couldn't bloody make it up!

These are good examples of the current media bias against Ukip.

I missed out Lib Dems because there are not enough left to meet.

Because tge press have never slated any other party ever have they?

Of course they have, but to this extent? I think (know) not.

Then you have a very selective memory. Labour have been attacked by the media for as long as I can remember.

On the subject of media biasis how do you feel about UKIPs disproportionate appearances on QT? Or their proposed participation in the pre-election TV debates? Or is that different? "

Spot on..Gordon Brown and the 'bigoted' Gillian Duffy for those with short memories

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