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"Miliband is totally out of his depths. Hardly surprising he is a laughing stock." I must admit Milliband is the least attractive Labour leader for a very long while, which is saying something when you remember luminaries like Kinnock and Callaghan. I'm a Labour voter but I cringe every time I see him on TV. Such a shame. | |||
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"Are you genuinely angry about what happened in Rotherham? Or are you just angry about what Ed Milliband said about Rotherham? Because as far as I am concerned, it wasn't just the city council who was at fault, and at least he apologised, which is more than Sean Wright did." I'm genuinely angry about what happened at Rotherham (a scale beyond belief) and elsewhere. The processes and policies that lead to it. Not least the lack of repsonsibilty and accountability by those all involved. But, Milliband, is only "deeply sorry" now so as to be able to hoodwink the electorate again (ie Blair) so as to be able to do the same again. | |||
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"Miliband is totally out of his depths. Hardly surprising he is a laughing stock." Could not agree more !!!! | |||
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"the brother was better...." Yes but he wasn't/isn't in Len McCluskey's pocket. | |||
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" The shameless **** (ie CUNT) is now saying he's "deeply sorry" for all the carry on's at Rotherham. To quote : "Mr Miliband said it was important for the Labour Party to "learn the lessons" from Rotherham. Mr Milliband, you were part of the Nu-Labour Govt during which the whole Rotherham scandal incl serious criminality took place. Rather than grovel for mine and other people's votes, to use a well known phrase, won't you just fuck off and die and take all your responsible colleagues with you. As if such as Milliband or the Labour Party would learn the lessons, and causes, of the scandal. Or do something about it. ps call this a rant if you wish, but my blood is beyond boiling. " . It's not just Rotherham though is it, there's half a dozen cities with the same scandal. What's needed here is a public enquiry into What went wrong How it went wrong Who knew what And more importantly let's jail some fuckers for the absolute incompetence of doing their job and I might add in one or two cases compliancy! As a gas engineer(and lots of other positions) if I'd failed in my duty I would be looking at jail time | |||
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" The shameless **** (ie CUNT) is now saying he's "deeply sorry" for all the carry on's at Rotherham. To quote : "Mr Miliband said it was important for the Labour Party to "learn the lessons" from Rotherham. Mr Milliband, you were part of the Nu-Labour Govt during which the whole Rotherham scandal incl serious criminality took place. Rather than grovel for mine and other people's votes, to use a well known phrase, won't you just fuck off and die and take all your responsible colleagues with you. As if such as Milliband or the Labour Party would learn the lessons, and causes, of the scandal. Or do something about it. ps call this a rant if you wish, but my blood is beyond boiling. . It's not just Rotherham though is it, there's half a dozen cities with the same scandal. What's needed here is a public enquiry into What went wrong How it went wrong Who knew what And more importantly let's jail some fuckers for the absolute incompetence of doing their job and I might add in one or two cases compliancy! As a gas engineer(and lots of other positions) if I'd failed in my duty I would be looking at jail time " | |||
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"ok, flack jacket on before I say this, but since when did the committing of a criminal act become the responsibility of the enforcemen agency? do we blame the police for d*unk drivers? now I'm old and ugly enought to know that's a gross oversimplification, and especially in social care there are waaaay more than 50 shades of grey, but some of the cases under investigation are the responsibility of the families/community. retire into bunker and await ban....." . If they had responsible families? There in care because some are shit, some haven't got any family anyway, and others are vulnerable. But yes to an extent their families should be under investigation just like the care authority | |||
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"agree.the whole of the establishment seems to have been corrupt for years .very disconcerting ." And alot of people are waking up to this fact. | |||
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" The shameless **** (ie CUNT) is now saying he's "deeply sorry" for all the carry on's at Rotherham. To quote : "Mr Miliband said it was important for the Labour Party to "learn the lessons" from Rotherham. Mr Milliband, you were part of the Nu-Labour Govt during which the whole Rotherham scandal incl serious criminality took place. Rather than grovel for mine and other people's votes, to use a well known phrase, won't you just fuck off and die and take all your responsible colleagues with you. As if such as Milliband or the Labour Party would learn the lessons, and causes, of the scandal. Or do something about it. ps call this a rant if you wish, but my blood is beyond boiling. " | |||
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"Tories and lib dems are as bad.....must be a throw back from their time at public schools. ..they obviously didn't get taught right or wrong" As someone who went to Public School, I can assure you that right and wrong are instilled into you at an early age. I'm also pretty sure that those involved in the sex trafficking didn't go to Public Schools I find your comment deeply offensive | |||
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" surely u could say that about most of them." Of course. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. There have been numerous cover ups over the years: how long was the Hillsborough scandal covered up for? The inquiry into Bloody Sunday? Those in power hide the truth, supress unpleasant facts. Sad but true and I'm sure that will always be so | |||
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"Tories and lib dems are as bad.....must be a throw back from their time at public schools. ..they obviously didn't get taught right or wrong As someone who went to Public School, I can assure you that right and wrong are instilled into you at an early age. I'm also pretty sure that those involved in the sex trafficking didn't go to Public Schools I find your comment deeply offensive" As someone who doesn't vote Tory or Lib Dem and went to public school as it was my single mom's contribution to giving me the best educational start in life...deeply offensive doesn't even cut it... | |||
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"Well, the main topic apart, I challenge anyone to justify the general behaviour, pompous attitude and lack or any understanding of 'normal life' displayed by the politicians from the upper classes and public school. This is a swinging site, most people on here are broad minded but most will also be sick and tired of the relentless reports of politicians misdemeanours, tax evasions, extreme deviations etc. Sorry if you are offended." I somehow doubt that the Labour Councillors of Rotherham and similar towns, are from the upper classes or public school elite. So where else do they draw their policies and intent, yes intent, from? | |||
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"Tories and lib dems are as bad.....must be a throw back from their time at public schools. ..they obviously didn't get taught right or wrong As someone who went to Public School, I can assure you that right and wrong are instilled into you at an early age. I'm also pretty sure that those involved in the sex trafficking didn't go to Public Schools I find your comment deeply offensive As someone who doesn't vote Tory or Lib Dem and went to public school as it was my single mom's contribution to giving me the best educational start in life...deeply offensive doesn't even cut it..." . Alright Muhammed were meeting in the cafe next week to discuss your offence | |||
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"Well, the main topic apart, I challenge anyone to justify the general behaviour, pompous attitude and lack or any understanding of 'normal life' displayed by the politicians from the upper classes and public school. This is a swinging site, most people on here are broad minded but most will also be sick and tired of the relentless reports of politicians misdemeanours, tax evasions, extreme deviations etc. Sorry if you are offended. I somehow doubt that the Labour Councillors of Rotherham and similar towns, are from the upper classes or public school elite. So where else do they draw their policies and intent, yes intent, from?" . The one I keep telling people runs politics. Bribery | |||
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"Well, the main topic apart, I challenge anyone to justify the general behaviour, pompous attitude and lack or any understanding of 'normal life' displayed by the politicians from the upper classes and public school. This is a swinging site, most people on here are broad minded but most will also be sick and tired of the relentless reports of politicians misdemeanours, tax evasions, extreme deviations etc. Sorry if you are offended." I am. Many will look at Churchill as being a great wartime leader. Educated at Public School. Around the same time, on the opposite side of the political spectrum, Attlee's labour government gave us the NHS and Benefits system. He was also educated at a Public School. I don't know what someone's education has to do with the issue being discussed. It is having power over others that leads to the problem: no matter where people have come from, the abuses come from people working for their own interest rather than the greater good. There are good and bad people from all walks of life. Please do not imagine any different. We need people of integrity in government: these, too, could come from any station | |||
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"When will people understand that the idiots in the hallowed towers of councils and government are so disconnected from reality that this will all happen again. ...the 'political correctness' we have to abide with nowadays is laughable" Wasn't it the police who were reluctant to take action over political correctness? | |||
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"When will people understand that the idiots in the hallowed towers of councils and government are so disconnected from reality that this will all happen again. ...the 'political correctness' we have to abide with nowadays is laughable Wasn't it the police who were reluctant to take action over political correctness?" And other reasons, ie can't be arsed or worse still corrupt reasons. But who makes the rules, laws? eg Data Protection Act. Public Body 1 has info that may assist Public Body 2 but due to NuLabour laws we cannot possibly give you access to it. ie We'll cover your sorry and negligent/corrupt arses if you cover ours. | |||
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"When will people understand that the idiots in the hallowed towers of councils and government are so disconnected from reality that this will all happen again. ...the 'political correctness' we have to abide with nowadays is laughable" Just googled Cyril Smith. Educated at Grammer School. Came from a very poor background As I say, good and bad from every walk of life | |||
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"Well, the main topic apart, I challenge anyone to justify the general behaviour, pompous attitude and lack or any understanding of 'normal life' displayed by the politicians from the upper classes and public school. This is a swinging site, most people on here are broad minded but most will also be sick and tired of the relentless reports of politicians misdemeanours, tax evasions, extreme deviations etc. Sorry if you are offended." Labour Councillors in Rotherham are unlikely to be from the upper classes or public schools. They will be from working class backgrounds. | |||
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" The shameless **** (ie CUNT) is now saying he's "deeply sorry" for all the carry on's at Rotherham. To quote : "Mr Miliband said it was important for the Labour Party to "learn the lessons" from Rotherham. Mr Milliband, you were part of the Nu-Labour Govt during which the whole Rotherham scandal incl serious criminality took place. Rather than grovel for mine and other people's votes, to use a well known phrase, won't you just fuck off and die and take all your responsible colleagues with you. As if such as Milliband or the Labour Party would learn the lessons, and causes, of the scandal. Or do something about it. ps call this a rant if you wish, but my blood is beyond boiling. " are you equally angry about the issue's in your own area which whilst not on the scale of Rotherham and as said in other places also are equally reprehensible and disgusting..? or is where you live perfect and no one vulnerable is exploited and abused.. | |||
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"They are all the same every one of them " This - the problem on Rotherham is repeated all over the country right now - is very very common and politicians are in it up to their filthy necks | |||
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