FabSwingers.com forum: Benefits Britain!!!

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

£37'500 per year benefits!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What the f**k!!!

Is anyone else watching this??????

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

No, I don't watch programmes like this.

I thought there was a cap on benefits?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No, I don't watch programmes like this.

I thought there was a cap on benefits?

I don't know? I suppose it depends on how many kids?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"No, I don't watch programmes like this.

I thought there was a cap on benefits?

I don't know? I suppose it depends on how many kids? "
I thought it was £26000 why did they get the benefits?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No, I don't watch programmes like this.

I thought there was a cap on benefits?

I don't know? I suppose it depends on how many kids? I thought it was £26000 why did they get the benefits?"

Have no idea, I just heard the narrator say that amount and couldn't believe it.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"No, I don't watch programmes like this.

I thought there was a cap on benefits?

I don't know? I suppose it depends on how many kids? I thought it was £26000 why did they get the benefits?

Have no idea, I just heard the narrator say that amount and couldn't believe it. "
so you didn't really watch it then lol

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I think it said she gets child benefit for three kids. One child has some disability so she gets invalidity benefit for that child. Plus her own dole. Plus tax credits and her rent paid . .All adding to over 35k per year.

its time this was stopped. All of it.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

They have capped benefits...however DLA is not a means tested benefit so they may get that on top...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it said she gets child benefit for three kids. One child has some disability so she gets invalidity benefit for that child. Plus her own dole. Plus tax credits and her rent paid . .All adding to over 35k per year.

its time this was stopped. All of it. "

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

its time this was stopped. All of it. "

It's time the state stopped supporting children? Or supporting people who are unemployed? Or keeping roofs over the heads of families?

What an odd opinion.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

its time this was stopped. All of it. "

workhouse then..?

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything."

Yes, those dyslexic children are a real gravy train.

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

There is a cap.

However, if you're in receipt of DLA or PIP you are exempt or the money that is awarded is not counted.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

its time this was stopped. All of it. "

So you'd rather three kids, one of them disabled, were on the street? Harsh!

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

You should only get out of the system what you have put into the pot.

Regardless of how many kids you have. Regardless of how available jobs Are.

Only the severely disabled should qualify for long term benefits.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything."

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Have the MPs, corporations not paying tax and rich people been mentioned yet.

On these threads, it won't be long

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Severe disability allowance and carers allowance but not DLA/pip

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"You should only get out of the system what you have put into the pot.

Regardless of how many kids you have. Regardless of how available jobs Are.

Only the severely disabled should qualify for long term benefits.

That's right, sPEaK yoUr brAnes!

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"There is a cap.

However, if you're in receipt of DLA or PIP you are exempt or the money that is awarded is not counted.

"
yes I just read up on that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

Yes, those dyslexic children are a real gravy train.

"
Or travy grain as they would say

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"You should only get out of the system what you have put into the pot.

Regardless of how many kids you have. Regardless of how available jobs Are.

Only the severely disabled should qualify for long term benefits.

That's right, sPEaK yoUr brAnes!

Wow, its been a while since I thought about that website!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its time this was stopped. All of it. "
So what do you do? Do you want the children to suffer hardship? Its clear the family need support and help you only have to look at the state of the accommodation to see that. Its about education not sanction

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"You should only get out of the system what you have put into the pot.

Regardless of how many kids you have. Regardless of how available jobs Are.

Only the severely disabled should qualify for long term benefits.

That's right, sPEaK yoUr brAnes!

Do what? Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Be magic if folks got this pissed of at politicians ripping off that kind of cash for expenses......in fact fuck it where's ma pitchfork?

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By *ackdd72Man
over a year ago

the valleys

why don't they overhaul the benefits system and instead of dishing out millions of pounds switch it over to a voucher system which can be used in government run stores something along the same line as Aldis it'll create jobs at the same time or strike a deal with the current supermarkets and stop shelling out all that money to people who have no intention of ever getting a job because the state gives them everything they need it would save so much money long term and it could be used for better things like the nhs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You should only get out of the system what you have put into the pot.

Regardless of how many kids you have. Regardless of how available jobs Are.

Only the severely disabled should qualify for long term benefits.

Can you be the one that tells the children there is nothing to eat, nothing to wear and they can't put the heating on because they haven't got a home? Its not a childs fault it was born.

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire

Programs like this are for shock value......they do not reflect the true nature of people who are claiming benefits, they just go for the sensational cases as it makes good _iewing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan.."

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

"You should only get out of the system what you have put into the pot.

Regardless of how many kids you have. Regardless of how available jobs Are.

Only the severely disabled should qualify for long term benefits.

How do you define what is a severe disability? Who makes that call?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

These programmes are the filth as well as the philosophy of divide and conquer.

Put your attention elsewhere for what is really very wrong and harming our well being, and don't become a puppet for others who have vested interests.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Child labour camps... Feed them skittles, they will work their socks off...

E numbers rock for productivity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The purpose of such programmes us to encourage a gut reaction to headlines, without displaying the facts objectively first, as it will help bring the ad money in.

Unfortunately it seems to be the direction most programmes are going nowadays.

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Put an end to these leeches bleeding the system.

They don't want work, they expect the system to feed them. . they Have kids to ensure a roof, to ensure they get benefits . Then say I can't work cause I have depression lol lol

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"You should only get out of the system what you have put into the pot.

Regardless of how many kids you have. Regardless of how available jobs Are.

Only the severely disabled should qualify for long term benefits.

bit ironic you saying that as your a smoker and the tax you have and will pay for your 'habit' you have chosen will not be anywhere near the cost of the treatment you will be given through the NHS..

a disabled child doesn't have a choice how they are born, they just are..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You should only get out of the system what you have put into the pot.

Regardless of how many kids you have. Regardless of how available jobs Are.

Only the severely disabled should qualify for long term benefits. The government and its acolytes

How do you define what is a severe disability? Who makes that call?"

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

"You should only get out of the system what you have put into the pot.

Regardless of how many kids you have. Regardless of how available jobs Are.

Only the severely disabled should qualify for long term benefits.

How do you define what is a severe disability? Who makes that call?"
according to what I've just read severely disabled is covered in the cap

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

"why don't they overhaul the benefits system and instead of dishing out millions of pounds switch it over to a voucher system which can be used in government run stores something along the same line as Aldis it'll create jobs at the same time or strike a deal with the current supermarkets and stop shelling out all that money to people who have no intention of ever getting a job because the state gives them everything they need it would save so much money long term and it could be used for better things like the nhs"

Fantastic idea. I bet all those families who are in receipt of working tax credit (there are more families receiving this than JSA for example) will love it too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Put an end to these leeches bleeding the system.

They don't want work, they expect the system to feed them. . they Have kids to ensure a roof, to ensure they get benefits . Then say I can't work cause I have depression lol lol "
Really? So cast this lady and her family on to the streets? You have a vote...........scary

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"The purpose of such programmes us to encourage a gut reaction to headlines "

and to give the fuckwittery the excuse to vent their bile at others less fortunate..

hey ho..

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country."

Are we playing UKIP bingo now?

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Thankfully I don't have a severely disabled child but I would take all I could to make their life better

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You should only get out of the system what you have put into the pot.

Regardless of how many kids you have. Regardless of how available jobs Are.

Only the severely disabled should qualify for long term benefits.

bit ironic you saying that as your a smoker and the tax you have and will pay for your 'habit' you have chosen will not be anywhere near the cost of the treatment you will be given through the NHS..

a disabled child doesn't have a choice how they are born, they just are.."

Not everyone who smokes gets ill though.

and smokers pay a lot of money in taxes.

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By *tarryeyedWoman
over a year ago

Manchester

These shows are designed to provoke negative opinions. They do not show the true reflection on the average unemployed person and they do not give the full story.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And the political witch hunt goes on and on and on....

Wish I could run the country, but I can't

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By *ust MonicaWoman
over a year ago

CAMBRIDGESHIRE

If u or a child gets dla or pip u r not covered by the benefit cap

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By *ickjones993Man
over a year ago

heathrow

didnt realise there were so many daily mail readers here

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"didnt realise there were so many daily mail readers here"

Readers is putting it a bit strong, maybe. Daily Mail lookers, perhaps?

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By *ust MonicaWoman
over a year ago

CAMBRIDGESHIRE

"The purpose of such programmes us to encourage a gut reaction to headlines, without displaying the facts objectively first, as it will help bring the ad money in.

Unfortunately it seems to be the direction most programmes are going nowadays. "

bad reporting to vilify those on benefits

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And the political witch hunt goes on and on and on....

Wish I could run the country, but I can't

"
Yes you can. Form a political party and stand for election. Your platform could be equality and reason which is what this country is all about not stupid television programmes on those who need help! I would vote for you. After watching Milliband and Cameron on the swiss bank account "debate" yesterday you could do a lot better!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You should only get out of the system what you have put into the pot.

Regardless of how many kids you have. Regardless of how available jobs Are.

Only the severely disabled should qualify for long term benefits.

bit ironic you saying that as your a smoker and the tax you have and will pay for your 'habit' you have chosen will not be anywhere near the cost of the treatment you will be given through the NHS..

a disabled child doesn't have a choice how they are born, they just are..

Not everyone who smokes gets ill though.

and smokers pay a lot of money in taxes."
I think that this sums up the debate................I despair

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

Are we playing UKIP bingo now?"

No, just saying it how it is. sorry if that worrys you.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"didnt realise there were so many daily mail readers here"

I think even Daily Mail fans are moving quietly away from some of the posters on here.

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

The mum in question who is getting 35k also said she has no intention of ever working. as long as She gets this benefit she is content.

Now tell me that is morally right.

Now tell me people shouldn't be piSsed off with these leeches.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its time this was stopped. All of it. "

Dude seriously you'd stop money going to disabled children ?

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By *laineabdneilCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

700 million in people dodging taxes is much much worse ...

But let's hammer the poor let's close more shops let's open more foodbanks...

Give the poor nothing give the tax dodgers a pat on the back.

Wreck the NHS and privatise everything

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"The mum in question who is getting 35k also said she has no intention of ever working. as long as She gets this benefit she is content.

Now tell me that is morally right.

Now tell me people shouldn't be piSsed off with these leeches.

If you think that whatever happens in her life has any perceptible effect on what happens in yours, and so is a valid reason for you to be angry, you are not thinking very clearly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is bad but why isn't there any programs on TV about the bankers that shafted the country out of billions and escaped without prosecution. And they still get huge bonuses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The mum in question who is getting 35k also said she has no intention of ever working. as long as She gets this benefit she is content.

Now tell me that is morally right.

Now tell me people shouldn't be piSsed off with these leeches.

"
So what is your alternative? Place the family in a situation where the kids are taken into care and the costs of said care are circa £30k per annum per child........financially its mad?

Give an alternative instead of just rounding on a family who are in need?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country."

no its stupid and short sighted..

and your ignorance is evident by your last sentence..

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

"The mum in question who is getting 35k also said she has no intention of ever working. as long as She gets this benefit she is content.

Now tell me that is morally right.

Now tell me people shouldn't be piSsed off with these leeches.

I don't watch programmes like this for reasons stated by other posters.

How do you know that what she said was in context. Was that just an edited sound bite? Can you be sure it wasn't?

If she has a severely disabled child can she work or is all her time spent caring for that child and their siblings?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Oh god here we go again...

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

I would hope some of the small minded opinions on this thread arent from people working and also claiming working tax credits and help towards childcare costs, because news flash you yourself are on benefits!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

its time this was stopped. All of it.

Dude seriously you'd stop money going to disabled children ?

No. I said disabled should qualify.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is bad but why isn't there any programs on TV about the bankers that shafted the country out of billions and escaped without prosecution. And they still get huge bonuses. "

Yes but there are though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I'd like to know is which execs at Channels 4 and 5 are in bed with the government, as they seem to be doing an extraordinary hatchet job on those on benefits, wholly mirroring Cameron's demonisation of the out of work. Incredible that such flagrant political propaganda takes some in, as we've seen on this post (and many similar ones)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best of luck to them ,how about politians with expenses and tax evasion with banks quite happy to take ordinary people to court how many MPs and bankers got knicked

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The mum in question who is getting 35k also said she has no intention of ever working. as long as She gets this benefit she is content.

Now tell me that is morally right.

Now tell me people shouldn't be piSsed off with these leeches.

Give it a rest Alf Garnet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

no its stupid and short sighted..

and your ignorance is evident by your last sentence.."

My ignorance or your fear

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What I'd like to know is which execs at Channels 4 and 5 are in bed with the government, as they seem to be doing an extraordinary hatchet job on those on benefits, wholly mirroring Cameron's demonisation of the out of work. Incredible that such flagrant political propaganda takes some in, as we've seen on this post (and many similar ones) "
Yes its just the government using its influence to whip up hysteria. The real issue and crime is that we have a prime minister who has appointed a phone hacker as his director of communications and a tax evasion facilitator to be his business minister. In the real world he would be sacked for having extremely poor judgement!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

no its stupid and short sighted..

and your ignorance is evident by your last sentence..

My ignorance or your fear

fear of what, something that wont happen..

if you seriously think that we will be a 3rd world country because kids with dyslexia have support then you are ignorant..

of many things..

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

its time this was stopped. All of it.

Dude seriously you'd stop money going to disabled children ?

No. I said disabled should qualify. "

Nope, you said "severly disabled". That means those who are disabled, but not severly would get nothing.

If you lost your job, you'd be happy to have zero financial support from the state? Would you wish the same on some poor hard-working guy or gal who loses their low paid job?

Callous in the extreme.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

no its stupid and short sighted..

and your ignorance is evident by your last sentence..

My ignorance or your fear

fear of what, something that wont happen..

if you seriously think that we will be a 3rd world country because kids with dyslexia have support then you are ignorant..

of many things.."

Ok, fear of something that is likely to happen maybe not for a long time yet, what makes you so sure that it wont happen, not just because of kids with dyslexia of course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

no its stupid and short sighted..

and your ignorance is evident by your last sentence..

My ignorance or your fear

fear of what, something that wont happen..

if you seriously think that we will be a 3rd world country because kids with dyslexia have support then you are ignorant..

of many things..

Ok, fear of something that is likely to happen maybe not for a long time yet, what makes you so sure that it wont happen, not just because of kids with dyslexia of course.

"
What on earth are you on about?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

no its stupid and short sighted..

and your ignorance is evident by your last sentence..

My ignorance or your fear

fear of what, something that wont happen..

if you seriously think that we will be a 3rd world country because kids with dyslexia have support then you are ignorant..

of many things..

Ok, fear of something that is likely to happen maybe not for a long time yet, what makes you so sure that it wont happen, not just because of kids with dyslexia of course.

you raised the issue of us being a 3rd world country initially, maybe elaborate on the reasons why you think that..?

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over a year ago

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

no its stupid and short sighted..

and your ignorance is evident by your last sentence..

My ignorance or your fear

fear of what, something that wont happen..

if you seriously think that we will be a 3rd world country because kids with dyslexia have support then you are ignorant..

of many things..

Ok, fear of something that is likely to happen maybe not for a long time yet, what makes you so sure that it wont happen, not just because of kids with dyslexia of course.

What on earth are you on about? "

Sorry, have I confused you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

no its stupid and short sighted..

and your ignorance is evident by your last sentence..

My ignorance or your fear

fear of what, something that wont happen..

if you seriously think that we will be a 3rd world country because kids with dyslexia have support then you are ignorant..

of many things..

Ok, fear of something that is likely to happen maybe not for a long time yet, what makes you so sure that it wont happen, not just because of kids with dyslexia of course.

you raised the issue of us being a 3rd world country initially, maybe elaborate on the reasons why you think that..?"

Try reading a bit more and taking notice.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

its called divide and conquer

make the working class hate the poor and the poor hate the people others

when the real target you should be looking at is the rich that cream as much as they can from everyone else

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

And how many millions are dodged in tax by various companies and individuals?

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"you raised the issue of us being a 3rd world country initially, maybe elaborate on the reasons why you think that..?

Try reading a bit more and taking notice."

As you obviously don't understand your own reasoning here is some bits of info for you that might help you see why your opinions are being mocked:

1) The UK has the fifth largest economy in terms of GDP in the world, and is on track to become the fourth largest.

2) A 'third world country' is a term that is used a refer to a developing nation.

Basically, the government could shower laptops on every man, woman and child in this country, and we wouldn't be in any danger of becoming a third world country.

If anything, we would probably see an economic boost.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

no its stupid and short sighted..

and your ignorance is evident by your last sentence..

My ignorance or your fear

fear of what, something that wont happen..

if you seriously think that we will be a 3rd world country because kids with dyslexia have support then you are ignorant..

of many things..

Ok, fear of something that is likely to happen maybe not for a long time yet, what makes you so sure that it wont happen, not just because of kids with dyslexia of course.

What on earth are you on about?

Sorry, have I confused you."
I think you have confused yourself? You are asserting that if we (in the UK) continue to operate a welfare system we will become a third world country. On what factual basis do you assert that hypothesis? The department for work and pensions accounts for circa 8% of GDP. So if we carry on spending on defence for example pro rata to GDP will that force us into a third world situation? also

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"The mum in question who is getting 35k also said she has no intention of ever working. as long as She gets this benefit she is content.

Now tell me that is morally right.

Now tell me people shouldn't be piSsed off with these leeches.

Give it a rest Alf Garnet"

Open forum Nora Batty

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By *amslam1000Man
over a year ago

willenhall

Fantastic idea. I bet all those families who are in receipt of working tax credit (there are more families receiving this than JSA for example) will love it too.

Why? if it gives enough to feed everyone correctly clothe them and keep them warm under a decent roof why should we subsidise the booze / fags and the 50" plasma tellys?

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

You know what I don’t care good luck to them, they can have my taxes. The world seems so full of negativity these days, it’s so depressing.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

no its stupid and short sighted..

and your ignorance is evident by your last sentence..

My ignorance or your fear

fear of what, something that wont happen..

if you seriously think that we will be a 3rd world country because kids with dyslexia have support then you are ignorant..

of many things..

Ok, fear of something that is likely to happen maybe not for a long time yet, what makes you so sure that it wont happen, not just because of kids with dyslexia of course.

you raised the issue of us being a 3rd world country initially, maybe elaborate on the reasons why you think that..?

Try reading a bit more and taking notice."

you dont duck it that easy Doreen, perhaps answer the question and saying what you (no one else) referred to and your reasons why..?

you cant have forgotten now, can you..?

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I love nostalgia. Victorian era logic here from some. Lovely to go back to those days.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

"And how many millions are dodged in tax by various companies and individuals? "

a rough idea

Quote from Guardian ‘Opinion’ thread:

3250 – Number of staff at DWP investigating benefit fraud of £1.2 billion.(Source DWP)

300 – Number of staff at HMRC investigating tax evasion of £70 billion+(Source HMRC tax evasion report March 2012)

Cameron also cut the HMRC budget by £577 million, uncollected tax rose by £3 billion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

no its stupid and short sighted..

and your ignorance is evident by your last sentence..

My ignorance or your fear

fear of what, something that wont happen..

if you seriously think that we will be a 3rd world country because kids with dyslexia have support then you are ignorant..

of many things..

Ok, fear of something that is likely to happen maybe not for a long time yet, what makes you so sure that it wont happen, not just because of kids with dyslexia of course.

you raised the issue of us being a 3rd world country initially, maybe elaborate on the reasons why you think that..?

Try reading a bit more and taking notice.

you dont duck it that easy Doreen, perhaps answer the question and saying what you (no one else) referred to and your reasons why..?

you cant have forgotten now, can you..?

like I say, try reading a bit more, and not burying your head in the sand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love nostalgia. Victorian era logic here from some. Lovely to go back to those days.

"
Ms DB it further than that its positively medieval.............I do worry !

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

no its stupid and short sighted..

and your ignorance is evident by your last sentence..

My ignorance or your fear

fear of what, something that wont happen..

if you seriously think that we will be a 3rd world country because kids with dyslexia have support then you are ignorant..

of many things..

Ok, fear of something that is likely to happen maybe not for a long time yet, what makes you so sure that it wont happen, not just because of kids with dyslexia of course.

you raised the issue of us being a 3rd world country initially, maybe elaborate on the reasons why you think that..?

Try reading a bit more and taking notice.

you dont duck it that easy Doreen, perhaps answer the question and saying what you (no one else) referred to and your reasons why..?

you cant have forgotten now, can you..?

like I say, try reading a bit more, and not burying your head in the sand."

oh come on now you can do better than that old chestnut surely..?

educate me then about your reasons why we will be a 3rd world country..

i'm all ears..

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By *aul_the_nudistMan
over a year ago

WREXHAM

its time this was stopped. All of it. "

Is she up for a meet....

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By *opping_candyWoman
over a year ago

West Yorkshire

Oh this again

Wish me luck for my job inter_iew in the morning then I can stop living this life of luxury with the £30k+ I get in benefits.

Oh hang on no I don't get that...

But I'll still take any luck going for my job inter_iew please, I'm even wearing my lucky knickers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh this again

Wish me luck for my job inter_iew in the morning then I can stop living this life of luxury with the £30k+ I get in benefits.

Oh hang on no I don't get that...

But I'll still take any luck going for my job inter_iew please, I'm even wearing my lucky knickers. "

Best wishes for your inter_iew... I hope you get the job and not have to take your knickers off in order to secure it!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haven't read the above... But this type of program is designed to deflect anger away from the cunts who are really to blame for the mess we are in.... And it's not the type of people on this program.

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By *opping_candyWoman
over a year ago

West Yorkshire

"Oh this again

Wish me luck for my job inter_iew in the morning then I can stop living this life of luxury with the £30k+ I get in benefits.

Oh hang on no I don't get that...

But I'll still take any luck going for my job inter_iew please, I'm even wearing my lucky knickers.

Best wishes for your inter_iew... I hope you get the job and not have to take your knickers off in order to secure it!!!

At this point I'd definitely consider it in order to get the job

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh this again

Wish me luck for my job inter_iew in the morning then I can stop living this life of luxury with the £30k+ I get in benefits.

Oh hang on no I don't get that...

But I'll still take any luck going for my job inter_iew please, I'm even wearing my lucky knickers. "

Good luck.

Yes, most on benefits are keen - even desperate - to get back to work, tired of living off a pittance and living with the threat of that being taken away, allied to the self respect that comes from working for a reasonable living. So hope you get what you want.

As for the inter_iew, maybe not wearing any knickers might bring more luck? Matt

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

"Oh this again

Wish me luck for my job inter_iew in the morning then I can stop living this life of luxury with the £30k+ I get in benefits.

Oh hang on no I don't get that...

But I'll still take any luck going for my job inter_iew please, I'm even wearing my lucky knickers. "

Good luck - genuinely hope you get it.

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By *opping_candyWoman
over a year ago

West Yorkshire

"Oh this again

Wish me luck for my job inter_iew in the morning then I can stop living this life of luxury with the £30k+ I get in benefits.

Oh hang on no I don't get that...

But I'll still take any luck going for my job inter_iew please, I'm even wearing my lucky knickers.

Good luck.

As for the inter_iew, maybe not wearing any knickers might bring more luck? Matt

No chance, if I can find my wonder woman knickers I'm wearing those too!

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By *opping_candyWoman
over a year ago

West Yorkshire

There are some nice people about

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Oh this again

Wish me luck for my job inter_iew in the morning then I can stop living this life of luxury with the £30k+ I get in benefits.

Oh hang on no I don't get that...

But I'll still take any luck going for my job inter_iew please, I'm even wearing my lucky knickers.

Good luck - genuinely hope you get it."

this..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"And how many millions are dodged in tax by various companies and individuals?

a rough idea

Quote from Guardian ‘Opinion’ thread:

3250 – Number of staff at DWP investigating benefit fraud of £1.2 billion.(Source DWP)

300 – Number of staff at HMRC investigating tax evasion of £70 billion+(Source HMRC tax evasion report March 2012)

Cameron also cut the HMRC budget by £577 million, uncollected tax rose by £3 billion."

this tells you all you need to know about the ideology of the current incumbents..

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By *ornycouplemgCouple
over a year ago

Northumberland

FFs

love the amount of experts on the forum ...it's a program ..yeah I watched it and yeah £36k a year cos one of her kids is "" well the many on here was saying ( dyslexia) but in fact it was autistic

.. Bollox was fuck all wrong with him enough to award any kid that amount .. An tony Taylor the scrappy bloke was on £53 a week ..... Hahaha it's the system .

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

its time this was stopped. All of it. "

Your absolutely right. How dare anyone with a disabled child expect help from the state after the last Tory government closed down all the hospitals in favor of 'care in the community'.

Much better to open a camp, (lets put it near Coatbridge and call it something like Sobijock), then we can send all those you consider unworthy, unproductive or disabled to it and solve the problem once and for all...

Maybe you would like to be the first to take a shower!

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By *orestersCouple
over a year ago

The Forest

Cash in hand work is still as easy to find as it ever was

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have the MPs, corporations not paying tax and rich people been mentioned yet.

On these threads, it won't be long

Yup, you mentioned them

the Television program does have a "hate the benefit users" agenda, could almost be financed by the government it serves their agenda so well. I don't watch it properly but was struck by the irony of a fashionably dressed teenage girl texting on her iPhone to scrounge cash for food... Poster girl for the cut benefits lobby.

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By *ornycouplemgCouple
over a year ago

Northumberland

All the jealousy about her ..! Good benefits or not .not exactly the lap of luxury there living in and would shit myself if she turned up for a meet

hahahaha Witt whoo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In reality reality TV isn't in any way real ,its so precious how almost no one has thought of this ,its a show show business .I have family doing work like this .wake up its a hatchet job from media puppets working for the real thieves the corrupt UK ministers that run the media corporations and skim all the money from you all

its propaganda Even the news is funded by the MOD through donations .Its a fact look things up for yourself people

..you-ll all be believing east-enders next

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

..you-ll all be believing east-enders next "

Is that not real !!!? You will be telling me there is no Coronation Street soon too.

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

its time this was stopped. All of it.

Your absolutely right. How dare anyone with a disabled child expect help from the state after the last Tory government closed down all the hospitals in favor of 'care in the community'.

Maybe you would like to be the first to take a shower!

Now that is funny lol

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

My apologies to the more on the ball enlightened people that had noticed it was like the govt had made the program with an agenda to shift the blame away from the govt bbc bankers and other tax dodging organisations .well done

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

its time this was stopped. All of it.

Your absolutely right. How dare anyone with a disabled child expect help from the state after the last Tory government closed down all the hospitals in favor of 'care in the community'.

Maybe you would like to be the first to take a shower!

Now that is funny lol "

Actually there is nothing funny about it at all. I may have been slightly too sarcastic but the intolerance you and many others on this thread voice is so similar to the intolerance voiced by the Nazi party and their supporters in the early 30's that it is frightening.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I avoid watching shit like this so was the mum footage cut with film of rats scurrying over a drain?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yeap and it doesnt stop there did see the tattoo addiction,,(yeap it was a repeat), father of four on benifits had a house and a car two dogs and was spending his dole on the next tatoo.. ,oh and last night they have the cheek to wonder why millionairs want to bring money into the country with out paying taxes,,doah !!

and last month the tax man had the bailiffs evict an ex solider out of his home of twenty years for none payment of taxes,, this is the proud uk ,,NOT

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh this again

Wish me luck for my job inter_iew in the morning then I can stop living this life of luxury with the £30k+ I get in benefits.

Oh hang on no I don't get that...

But I'll still take any luck going for my job inter_iew please, I'm even wearing my lucky knickers.

Best wishes for your inter_iew... I hope you get the job and not have to take your knickers off in order to secure it!!!

"
.oi

I'm inter_iewing her

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

its time this was stopped. All of it.

Your absolutely right. How dare anyone with a disabled child expect help from the state after the last Tory government closed down all the hospitals in favor of 'care in the community'.

Maybe you would like to be the first to take a shower!

Now that is funny lol

this is an open forum and I will say (within site rules) what I believe to be true.

Yeah go on, play the Nazi card, most do when they run out of argument.

Is it so wrong for me the be angry that some. . And I say some, take the benefit system as a personal piggy bank when they do not contribute a penny to the pot?

I state again. Take out what you put in, not a penny more, not a penny less.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is a cap.

However, if you're in receipt of DLA or PIP you are exempt or the money that is awarded is not counted.

I thought PIP were tit implants

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over a year ago

Glasgow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything."

I have a child with dyslexia and I never got anything free, define free everything?

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over a year ago

this is an open forum and I will say (within site rules) what I believe to be true.

Yeah go on, play the Nazi card, most do when they run out of argument.

Is it so wrong for me the be angry that some. . And I say some, take the benefit system as a personal piggy bank when they do not contribute a penny to the pot?

I state again. Take out what you put in, not a penny more, not a penny less.

Does that extend to the police?, nhs?, education?

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

its time this was stopped. All of it.

Your absolutely right. How dare anyone with a disabled child expect help from the state after the last Tory government closed down all the hospitals in favor of 'care in the community'.

Maybe you would like to be the first to take a shower!

Now that is funny lol

this is an open forum and I will say (within site rules) what I believe to be true.

Yeah go on, play the Nazi card, most do when they run out of argument.

Is it so wrong for me the be angry that some. . And I say some, take the benefit system as a personal piggy bank when they do not contribute a penny to the pot?

I state again. Take out what you put in, not a penny more, not a penny less.

You're very gullible but the government love people like you, who totally buy into their propaganda so easily.

It's blatantly clear that you don't have a clue about the benefit system.

But it was on TV and it's in the papers so it must be true, right?

Carry on with the anger, prejudice and hatred, by all means, but know that you're showing your ignorance and extreme gullibility every time you comment.

It's not all you're showing but it's always useful when people demonstrate who they really are.

You're a pawn being used by the government and if you bothered to actually find out the truth about the welfare system in this country, if you're any sort of human at all, you'd be appalled and thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

People are going hungry to feed their kids. They're having to choose between heating their home and eating. They're relying on food banks because they are desperate. They're losing their homes. In some tragic cases people have died as a result of the failings of our "welfare" system and they won't be the last.

Poverty is at a frightening level in this country now and still increasing.

Those you see paraded on the programmes mentioned and in articles designed to - and, incredibly, succeeding in - making the poor hate the even poorer are a tiny, tiny, tiny minority.

Very few people are living well on benefits, or even in low paid work. Most are suffering, some worse than others, and some are suffering very badly indeed.

However, I know you won't look for the truth and you'll see what you want to see. Your sort generally do.

I'm so disappointed in our species sometimes; certain members of it, anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Way i see it when we are born its at that very moment we start to die..

So yes it may be to much and it may be a pain in your pocket but at the end of the day we are born to survive as long as we can as its in out nature to do so.If its handed to you on a plate you would take it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its time this was stopped. All of it.

Your absolutely right. How dare anyone with a disabled child expect help from the state after the last Tory government closed down all the hospitals in favor of 'care in the community'.

Maybe you would like to be the first to take a shower!

Now that is funny lol

this is an open forum and I will say (within site rules) what I believe to be true.

Yeah go on, play the Nazi card, most do when they run out of argument.

Is it so wrong for me the be angry that some. . And I say some, take the benefit system as a personal piggy bank when they do not contribute a penny to the pot?

I state again. Take out what you put in, not a penny more, not a penny less.

Having read this thread what do you put in ?? Whats been your contribution to this country ? What can you can you stand up and truly say yeh i made a difference ?? Fact is you cant !!!

I read your posts and find a you a misogynistic, self gloating dudley do right with about as much balls as a eunuch, who are you to judge others circumstances based on what you see on tv and then come here and and think everyone else is the same. Im so glad we / i will never get to meet someone like you face to face because your the kind of person that incites the hatred and idiotic crap this country doesnt need.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

this is an open forum and I will say (within site rules) what I believe to be true.

Yeah go on, play the Nazi card, most do when they run out of argument.

Is it so wrong for me the be angry that some. . And I say some, take the benefit system as a personal piggy bank when they do not contribute a penny to the pot?

I state again. Take out what you put in, not a penny more, not a penny less.

Does that extend to the police?, nhs?, education?"

Use of the roads, street lighting, refuse collection, libraries, ambulances, the fire service, road gritting in winter, pensioners' fuel allowance, pensioners' bus passes, coastguards...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is an open forum and I will say (within site rules) what I believe to be true.

Yeah go on, play the Nazi card, most do when they run out of argument.

Is it so wrong for me the be angry that some. . And I say some, take the benefit system as a personal piggy bank when they do not contribute a penny to the pot?

I state again. Take out what you put in, not a penny more, not a penny less.

Does that extend to the police?, nhs?, education?

Use of the roads, street lighting, refuse collection, libraries, ambulances, the fire service, road gritting in winter, pensioners' fuel allowance, pensioners' bus passes, coastguards..."

Im lost now but yh..what you said..

CRACKING TITS

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The point being the vast majority of people are going to 'take out' far more than they ever pay in, whether it's benefits, health, schools, pensions or not slipping arse over tit in the snow.

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over a year ago

"The point being the vast majority of people are going to 'take out' far more than they ever pay in, whether it's benefits, health, schools, pensions or not slipping arse over tit in the snow."

True but there is a difference between someone having expensive medical treatment because they get ill or having their wages topped up with tax credits because they are trying to help themselves but just don't earn enough and someone who activity chooses to sit on benefits all their lifes spitting out kid after kid with no intentions of ever supporting them themselves

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By *illycarrolCouple
over a year ago

n/cle on tyne

its daily mail poverty porn for the snarling masses i know quite a few people unemployed now for whatever reason and they got the shock of their lives on what benefits they got as in virtually fuck all after jumping through so many hoops lets hope these people on here who cant see through the propagander never lose their job the companies that run these schemes are the ones making all the money, thank you for reading i hope my little rant is understood

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"this is an open forum and I will say (within site rules) what I believe to be true.

Yeah go on, play the Nazi card, most do when they run out of argument.

Is it so wrong for me the be angry that some. . And I say some, take the benefit system as a personal piggy bank when they do not contribute a penny to the pot?

I state again. Take out what you put in, not a penny more, not a penny less.

Correct this is an open forum, you are entitled to voice any belief you hold and I would defend that right with my last breath. However if the beliefs you voice are of intolerance, bigotry and prejudice do not be surprised when you are challenged and they are compared to others who held similar _iews.

If you don't like being compared to the Nazi's, don't voice _iews that can be compared to those of the Nazis.

As for being angry, you have every right to be angry but please direct your anger in the right direction. Don't direct it at those who have been thrown on the scrap heap, direct it at those who for the sake of an extra 0 on the balance of a bank account in a foreign country (money they can never spend) have systematically stripped industry and wealth and now infrastructure from this country!

And if you don't know what I am talking about go out and look at the state of the roads, the lack of social housing, the queues at your local A&E, the lack of bobbies on the beat... The list goes on and on...

Then ask yourself why do we import coal when this is an island of coal? Why are all the shipyards gone, when this is an island and everything we trade has to travel over the sea that surrounds us? Why do we allow foreign countries to run parts of our government for their profit when we cant do the same in their countries?

Ask yourself what has happened to all the people (and their children) who used to do all those jobs that have been exported to China and the Far East? And who is really ripping this country off? The woman with a disabled child or the bastards who have asset stripped this country to satisfy their personal greed?

Finally may I suggest that rather than looking for people worse off than you to do down and grind into the dirt your time may be better employed in looking to see whose boot is on your neck grinding you into the mire.

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I do take your point. And I accept a lot of it. Bigotry? Intolerance? Or any other kind of ism is not in any of my comments.

The system itself feeds the situation . The system needs totally overhauled.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

"I do take your point. And I accept a lot of it. Bigotry? Intolerance? Or any other kind of ism is not in any of my comments.

The system itself feeds the situation . The system needs totally overhauled. "

It's not just me that sees intolerance and bigotry. I know I am very caustic and sarcastic at times, more than I should be. but the truth is we are sleepwalking into becoming a fascist state in exactly the same way as Germany and Italy sleepwalked into fascism in the late 20's and early 30's.

It is not the system that needs overhauling, it's the corrupt way it is administrated that needs to change.

We need stop this rush to a completely open Laissez faire economy and return to a genuinely mixed economy where the state runs essential services on our behalf on a 'not for profit' basis.

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

Don't watch these programs cos don't ever feel its a true representation of what us really going on.

Just to show the other side of the coin what about all those benifits that are not claimed? If we are lead to believe all we read/ watch in the media what about this?! :

'Awareness'

The DWP has outlined data on the various income-related benefits that were not claimed. The latest figures, which refer to 2009-10, include:

Up to 620,000 people failing to claim up to £2bn in income support, and employment and support allowance

Up to 1.6 million people failing to claim up to £2.8bn in pension credit

Up to 1.1 million people not claiming up to £3.1bn in housing benefit

Up to 3.2 million people missing out on up to £2.4bn in council tax benefit

Up to 610,000 people failing to claim up to £1.95bn in jobseeker's allowance

Now if this was added to all thise £1000's already claimed would the situation be even worse? If people are entitled to stuff should they not claim? Some say they don't claim, only cos they don't know they are able to! My point being that not every one is a scum bag cheating benifit looser and all the ' immigrants' aint claiming all our benifits! Will there be TV programs telling the oldens they can have a warm house and food every day, and not have to choose between the two ... Same with families and housing! Course not! The World gone mad!

Put a tv programe on , rattle sum cages and before ya know it all cheating scum bags ... Get real!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got layed off xmas thankfully got a start dont see how people think everyone on benefit can afford 50in plasma tellys etc

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

"its daily mail poverty porn for the snarling masses i know quite a few people unemployed now for whatever reason and they got the shock of their lives on what benefits they got as in virtually fuck all after jumping through so many hoops lets hope these people on here who cant see through the propagander never lose their job the companies that run these schemes are the ones making all the money, thank you for reading i hope my little rant is understood

I used to have the biasef opinion that people on benefits are getting too much if tgey can afford the luxeries in these type of shows then ive recently been.made redundant. Couldnt have come at a worse time as im currently pregnant with baby number 3, and now im struggling on the pittance im given, the reality is these people paying for these luxeries are obviously in unimaginable amounts of debt, they have to be as i know i cant afford such luxeries like posh tvs, holidays, tattoos etc, but of course they wont show you the reality of that debt they are in for choosing to spend their benefit on the wrong things, I personally choose to put it all on my monthly outgoings as opposed to luxeries and im still just scrapping by.

I have however always worked full time since the age of 16 until i was laid off, so have paid my dues in that sense, im truely grateful for the welfare i do recieve or me and my kids would be homeless and destitute by now, but id rather be working as I was much better off, so I have every intention of finding work asap.

Valuable lesson here is dont judge until youve walked a mile in another persons shoes. Ive certainly learnt my lesson the hard way

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By *orneyashell87Couple
over a year ago

stockotn on tees

"No, I don't watch programmes like this.

I thought there was a cap on benefits?

The cap is lifted if.you are claiming dla lol xx

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By *orneyashell87Couple
over a year ago

stockotn on tees

Can't wait for the thread after the new benefit street is aired lol its filmed in an area near me lol..

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple
over a year ago

near cardiff

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country."

Lol..no we won't..people forget how much wealth is in this country.

Not everyone on the dole takes £35k year!

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

There speaks someone who has no idea what the reality ofliving in a third world country is.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

its time this was stopped. All of it.

Your absolutely right. How dare anyone with a disabled child expect help from the state after the last Tory government closed down all the hospitals in favor of 'care in the community'.

Maybe you would like to be the first to take a shower!

Now that is funny lol

this is an open forum and I will say (within site rules) what I believe to be true.

Yeah go on, play the Nazi card, most do when they run out of argument.

Is it so wrong for me the be angry that some. . And I say some, take the benefit system as a personal piggy bank when they do not contribute a penny to the pot?

I state again. Take out what you put in, not a penny more, not a penny less.

So if, God forbid any one of us gets a life threatening illness our treatment should stop when the cost of it exceeds our contributions? If one of my children who are in their twenties needs medical care they should go without because their contributions so far aren't enough to pay for it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

There speaks someone who has no idea what the reality ofliving in a third world country is."

How could anyone with eyes in their head not know that. Oh well it wont happen while you are around but possibly will when your grankids are.

I realy fear for their future.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

country is fucked!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"country is fucked!!"

Someone who has noticed whats happening then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A smooth thread, nothing to see here

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

its time this was stopped. All of it.

Your absolutely right. How dare anyone with a disabled child expect help from the state after the last Tory government closed down all the hospitals in favor of 'care in the community'.

Maybe you would like to be the first to take a shower!

Now that is funny lol

this is an open forum and I will say (within site rules) what I believe to be true.

Yeah go on, play the Nazi card, most do when they run out of argument.

Is it so wrong for me the be angry that some. . And I say some, take the benefit system as a personal piggy bank when they do not contribute a penny to the pot?

I state again. Take out what you put in, not a penny more, not a penny less.

Having read this thread what do you put in ?? Whats been your contribution to this country ? What can you can you stand up and truly say yeh i made a difference ?? Fact is you cant !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

There speaks someone who has no idea what the reality ofliving in a third world country is.

How could anyone with eyes in their head not know that. Oh well it wont happen while you are around but possibly will when your grankids are.

I realy fear for their future."
You seem to be forecasting Armageddon because of spending on the welfare system? I have eyes and a I read around this subject and your fear may have some foundation if we do not spend national income in the right places. I somehow cannot correlate a nuclear deterrent (costing 5 times the welfare budget)with cuts in welfare services?

You are looking but cannot see! Just now on Radio 4 it seems that all banks operate a private service to wealthy clients with the specific purpose to avoid income tax. Perhaps Channel 5 will make a reality programme about that but I rather doubt it as the shock value of it will not be the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"country is fucked!!

Someone who has noticed whats happening then."
I am lucky to travel with my work and have spent time in other cultures for extended periods. The UK is without doubt the fairest and most tolerant society I have ever come across (save for Denmark!)The country is not fucked it has the greatest potential of any EU state we need to adopt a fairer distribution of resources but that is a debate for another day.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

This country is far from fucked as a country we are far better off than a lot of countries in this world. We have clean running water, electricity, food, gas, housing, employment a welfare system that helps the most vulnerable of society. We are an open liberal country. We have free health care. I think the countries that are truely fucked are those that don't have any of the above but what I do think they have is hope. Which I think we severely lack over here. This country is unlikely to turn into a third world country anytime soon well not in my lifetime or the generation after that. If you want to change things then speak up make your voice heard instead of moaning about it on an forum.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"country is fucked!!

Someone who has noticed whats happening then."

Say this repeatedly to yourself with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears, and it probably starts to seem like the truth.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"country is fucked!!

Someone who has noticed whats happening then.I am lucky to travel with my work and have spent time in other cultures for extended periods. The UK is without doubt the fairest and most tolerant society I have ever come across (save for Denmark!)The country is not fucked it has the greatest potential of any EU state we need to adopt a fairer distribution of resources but that is a debate for another day."

I love Denmark

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"These programmes are the filth as well as the philosophy of divide and conquer.

Put your attention elsewhere for what is really very wrong and harming our well being, and don't become a puppet for others who have vested interests."

This!

Don't be distracted by smoke and mirrors people.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

On a more positive tack, it's heartening to see how many people on here recognise things like Benefits Britain for the propagandist trash it is, and aren't taken in by the wildly distorted story that politicians are trying to feed us about the state of the country and the poor, weak and disabled.

If this thread is any reflection of the wider populace, maybe there is some hope after all!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"didnt realise there were so many daily mail readers here"

I read the Daily Mail, life long labour voter, a full time union official and not swayed by smoke and mirrors...so your point is?!!

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

its time this was stopped. All of it.

Your absolutely right. How dare anyone with a disabled child expect help from the state after the last Tory government closed down all the hospitals in favor of 'care in the community'.

Maybe you would like to be the first to take a shower!

Now that is funny lol

this is an open forum and I will say (within site rules) what I believe to be true.

Yeah go on, play the Nazi card, most do when they run out of argument.

Is it so wrong for me the be angry that some. . And I say some, take the benefit system as a personal piggy bank when they do not contribute a penny to the pot?

I state again. Take out what you put in, not a penny more, not a penny less.

If you can point out a single adult in this country that doesn't "contribute a penny to the pot" I'd be bloody impressed.

Everyone pays VAT. VED (more commonly known as car tax) is tax that goes directly into the general tax coffers. There's an outrageous quantity of tax on fuel. Gas and electricity are taxed. I haven't checked but I suspect most utilities, if not all, are taxed.

And all these people living the life of Riley that you claim, smoking and drinking, will be paying tax on the cigarettes and alcohol.

Absolutely every adult contributes something to the pot.

Every adult in this country is a tax payer, which makes all the rhetoric about "tax payers" totally moronic.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

its time this was stopped. All of it.

I know they are onto a good thing, just having a kid with dyslexia and they get free laptops and free everything.

so rather than support someone with a disability and give them the means to be on a level playing field with their peers we withdraw it..?

and diminish their chances to succeed in life and by doing so contribute to society..?

great plan..

Yes great plan. The money isn't going to be there for ever though is it. In a few years time we will be a third world country.

There speaks someone who has no idea what the reality ofliving in a third world country is.

How could anyone with eyes in their head not know that. Oh well it wont happen while you are around but possibly will when your grankids are.

I realy fear for their future."

I do know that in Europe we have a long way to go before we reach third world status. Of course I am concerned for the future but my concerns don't centre on the UK becoming third world.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"This country is far from fucked as a country we are far better off than a lot of countries in this world. We have clean running water, electricity, food, gas, housing, employment a welfare system that helps the most vulnerable of society. We are an open liberal country. We have free health care. I think the countries that are truely fucked are those that don't have any of the above but what I do think they have is hope. Which I think we severely lack over here. This country is unlikely to turn into a third world country anytime soon well not in my lifetime or the generation after that. If you want to change things then speak up make your voice heard instead of moaning about it on an forum. "

This country will never be a third world country. Even in the Victorian era of workhouses, which we seem to be heading back to, it was nowhere near that.

We're a developed nation and in some things we remain at the forefront of development. We're not going to un-devlop, not even in a multitude of generations.

Those rattling on about us becoming a third world country have absolutely no idea what a third world country is!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yeah, like I said its not going to last forever. if it makes you happy to believe all that then go ahead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yeah, like I said its not going to last forever. if it makes you happy to believe all that then go ahead.

"
It seems this lady is the queen of the one liners!

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over a year ago

yeah, like I said its not going to last forever. if it makes you happy to believe all that then go ahead.

It seems this lady is the queen of the one liners!"

I say it as it is, lot of people don't like that do they, prefer to live in the land of fairies where everything is lovely.

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By *educedWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

I had to dip out of this thread last night as I actually found it very upsetting.

I work in a neighbourhood where 95% of the residents are in receipt of benefits. I could sit here all day and tell you harrowing stories of families torn apart by poverty, about individuals with no future because we as a society have written them off, young people who want to work but can't get a job because of where they live (post code discrimination), families who can't afford to heat their homes or eat, people who cannot read or write being sanctioned because they didn't/ can't complete their JSA obligations or because they didn't register online with Universal Jobs Match because they don't have a computer or internet access...

For me this is the reality of Benefits Britain that isn't shown on TV.

I am no bleeding heart either. I am obligated legally and morally to report benefit fraud. In 2014 I didn't make a single report.

I think people mistake poverty as being just about money. It isn't. Poverty is about lack of aspiration and opportunity, low educational attainment, poor health and limited life expectancy, poor housing and high levels of crime etc and unfortunately for all of those of you who live blinkered lives, this is the reality for a big proportion of our fellow citizens.

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood

C'mon, there are loads of people that really "take the piss" out of this country.

Then There are asylum seekers stuck in Calais that have made a LONG journey just to get to Calais, there main goal is to get to UK. but i'm think i'm sure that asylum seekers can claim asylum in the first "safe" country they come to. These people risk thee health and LIFES to get here.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

yeah, like I said its not going to last forever. if it makes you happy to believe all that then go ahead.

Ok give me the proof where you have researched that England will become a third world country and I'll happily mull over it and see if any of it has a reasonable argument I'll await your source

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

yeah, like I said its not going to last forever. if it makes you happy to believe all that then go ahead.

But it's quite easy to believe that we have clean running water I only need to walk into my kitchen and turn the tap to prove it. Claiming that we will soon be a third world country is extreme and does imply that you have no real knowledge of the reality of what being one of those countries means.

I have seen our health service deteriorate in recent years and experienced bad times due to the fluctuating jobs market but have never had to walk two days to get medical help because my kid drank untreated water.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

yeah, like I said its not going to last forever. if it makes you happy to believe all that then go ahead.

It seems this lady is the queen of the one liners!

I say it as it is, lot of people don't like that do they, prefer to live in the land of fairies where everything is lovely.

There are no fairies in my world.

Everything is not lovely for a huge number of people in this country. Poverty is growing.

However poverty does not a third world country make.

We're a developed nation. We're not going to un-devlop.

You show your ignorance of what "third world country" actually means.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

"I had to dip out of this thread last night as I actually found it very upsetting.

For me this is the reality of Benefits Britain that isn't shown on TV.

I am no bleeding heart either. I am obligated legally and morally to report benefit fraud. In 2014 I didn't make a single report.

Well said.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

"C'mon, there are loads of people that really "take the piss" out of this country."

Yes, they're called politicians and bankers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yeah, like I said its not going to last forever. if it makes you happy to believe all that then go ahead.

Ok give me the proof where you have researched that England will become a third world country and I'll happily mull over it and see if any of it has a reasonable argument I'll await your source "

No need to prove anything, its just obvious to anyone who can read and see whats going on and listen to what people are saying, not just the people who agree with you.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

No need to prove anything, its just obvious to anyone who can read and see whats going on and listen to what people are saying, not just the people who agree with you."

It's far from obvious to me. I'm interested on what you base your statement.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

yeah, like I said its not going to last forever. if it makes you happy to believe all that then go ahead.

Ok give me the proof where you have researched that England will become a third world country and I'll happily mull over it and see if any of it has a reasonable argument I'll await your source

No need to prove anything, its just obvious to anyone who can read and see whats going on and listen to what people are saying, not just the people who agree with you."

we are listening to what you're saying that's why we're replying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yeah, like I said its not going to last forever. if it makes you happy to believe all that then go ahead.

Ok give me the proof where you have researched that England will become a third world country and I'll happily mull over it and see if any of it has a reasonable argument I'll await your source

No need to prove anything, its just obvious to anyone who can read and see whats going on and listen to what people are saying, not just the people who agree with you."
What are people saying? Is that all the population or just those in your world?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yeah, like I said its not going to last forever. if it makes you happy to believe all that then go ahead.

We have been lucky so far in that we have a health service, clean water to drink except that it wont always be there as it will run out at sometime.

because we are so overpopulated and becoming even more so.

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By *homasP80Man
over a year ago

Linwood

"C'mon, there are loads of people that really "take the piss" out of this country.

Yes, they're called politicians and bankers."

there just crooks, big massive pay, making promises that are rarely kept etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And the political witch hunt goes on and on and on....

Wish I could run the country, but I can't

Yes you can. Form a political party and stand for election. Your platform could be equality and reason which is what this country is all about not stupid television programmes on those who need help! I would vote for you. After watching Milliband and Cameron on the swiss bank account "debate" yesterday you could do a lot better!"

thanks fell....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yeah, like I said its not going to last forever. if it makes you happy to believe all that then go ahead.

Ok give me the proof where you have researched that England will become a third world country and I'll happily mull over it and see if any of it has a reasonable argument I'll await your source

No need to prove anything, its just obvious to anyone who can read and see whats going on and listen to what people are saying, not just the people who agree with you.

we are listening to what you're saying that's why we're replying."

No not me, I mean listening to other people not just people who you agree with.

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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

No need to prove anything, its just obvious to anyone who can read and see whats going on and listen to what people are saying, not just the people who agree with you.

It's far from obvious to me. I'm interested on what you base your statement."

I believe the word is ignorance.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

yeah, like I said its not going to last forever. if it makes you happy to believe all that then go ahead.

We have been lucky so far in that we have a health service, clean water to drink except that it wont always be there as it will run out at sometime.

because we are so overpopulated and becoming even more so."

Lol I doubt our water supply will run out anytime soon you just have to see howuch it rains and how much we recycle water.

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over a year ago

Some people are easier to manipulate and control than others.

Those on benefits, immigrants etc are just 'tools' used to deflect. In a blame culture these tools are used to provide the masses with a small defenseless subsection of society to blame, some sadly fall for it. They are all too willing to adopt the 'us and them' instead of the 'we' approach to building our society.

What is encouraging reading threads like this is how many people no longer fall for these divide and conquer or smoke and mirror tactics.

As people become more educated and aware, those that choose to support a lack of compassion as the basis for their arguments are having to employ more extreme shock tactics in order to cling to obsolete arguments.

I've seen terms like third world and armageddon used on this thread.....come on, it's getting a bit silly to blame our impending doom on an unemployed mother trying to raise her kids...isn't it??

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