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"They probably all got a "Yes" response to a "I'm in the area, wanna fuck tonight" question" | |||
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"Only meet people 30 minutes drive away" | |||
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"Only meet people 30 minutes drive away" So thats about 135 miles then? | |||
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"Only meet people 30 minutes drive away So thats about 135 miles then? " Give or take. Normally a bit of traffic so I draw the line at around the 120 mark | |||
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"The one doing 128 in a 30! Fucktard!" this.. totally cuntish behaviour.. | |||
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"For how much a speeding find costs, it's cheaper to go and do a track day where you can drive as fast as your skills allow. " . I did track racing as a youth. Most people who speed are wank drivers!. We used to have twats come down in some fancy ford cosworth and come last and couldn't think why till some guy said.... There's more to going fast than shoving your foot on an accelerator | |||
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"For how much a speeding find costs, it's cheaper to go and do a track day where you can drive as fast as your skills allow. " Plus the recovery truck fees. | |||
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"For how much a speeding find costs, it's cheaper to go and do a track day where you can drive as fast as your skills allow. " Or Mad Sunday if yer a biker | |||
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"For how much a speeding find costs, it's cheaper to go and do a track day where you can drive as fast as your skills allow. . I did track racing as a youth. Most people who speed are wank drivers!. We used to have twats come down in some fancy ford cosworth and come last and couldn't think why till some guy said.... There's more to going fast than shoving your foot on an accelerator" | |||
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"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works....." ...only needed 88mph | |||
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"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works..... ...only needed 88mph" Modern day equivalent maybe | |||
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"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works..... ...only needed 88mph" Bit more than 88mph.. Needed a spark too | |||
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"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works..... ...only needed 88mph Bit more than 88mph.. Needed a spark too" Easy in a Veyron | |||
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"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works..... ...only needed 88mph Bit more than 88mph.. Needed a spark too Easy in a Veyron " Its been 2.5 years since we met at the lodge... time also flys fast | |||
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"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works..... ...only needed 88mph Bit more than 88mph.. Needed a spark too Easy in a Veyron Its been 2.5 years since we met at the lodge... time also flys fast" I return to my previous statement " its easy in a Veyron " lol | |||
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"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works..... ...only needed 88mph Bit more than 88mph.. Needed a spark too Easy in a Veyron Its been 2.5 years since we met at the lodge... time also flys fast I return to my previous statement " its easy in a Veyron " lol " Are you saying you bought one | |||
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"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works..... ...only needed 88mph Bit more than 88mph.. Needed a spark too Easy in a Veyron Its been 2.5 years since we met at the lodge... time also flys fast I return to my previous statement " its easy in a Veyron " lol Are you saying you bought one" Ha ha fuck no lol | |||
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"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works..... ...only needed 88mph Bit more than 88mph.. Needed a spark too Easy in a Veyron Its been 2.5 years since we met at the lodge... time also flys fast I return to my previous statement " its easy in a Veyron " lol Are you saying you bought one Ha ha fuck no lol " Good. They have no appeal.. cant beat good old great British AM | |||
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"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works..... ...only needed 88mph Bit more than 88mph.. Needed a spark too Easy in a Veyron Its been 2.5 years since we met at the lodge... time also flys fast I return to my previous statement " its easy in a Veyron " lol Are you saying you bought one Ha ha fuck no lol Good. They have no appeal.. cant beat good old great British AM" Mmm a gorgeous db9 vanquish......... enough said lol | |||
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"It's not so much getting to 140mph that's the problem it's stopping once your at that speed " They are built to stop on a dime have you not been watching top gear lately lol x | |||
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"It's not so much getting to 140mph that's the problem it's stopping once your at that speed They are built to stop on a dime have you not been watching top gear lately lol x" My point is anyone can put their foot down in a fast (or not so fast) car Keeping a car under control at heavy braking from such speeds is where people usually cock up. | |||
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"It's not so much getting to 140mph that's the problem it's stopping once your at that speed They are built to stop on a dime have you not been watching top gear lately lol x My point is anyone can put their foot down in a fast (or not so fast) car Keeping a car under control at heavy braking from such speeds is where people usually cock up. " Yep with you on that , hence my earlier post | |||
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"Only meet people 30 minutes drive away So thats about 135 miles then? Give or take. Normally a bit of traffic so I draw the line at around the 120 mark" This means there doing 270mph? | |||
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"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4. One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services... According to the speedo I touched 165... In the early 90's I had a BMW740... One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140... Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so." That's different from doing 128 in a 30 zone. If you do that you're an arsehole. | |||
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"Many people don't realise the 70 mph limit was due to the fuel shortage in the 1970s not because of safety reasons." Whereas the 30 mph limit in built up areas can make a difference to a pedestrian surviving a traffic accident. | |||
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"Many people don't realise the 70 mph limit was due to the fuel shortage in the 1970s not because of safety reasons." That's funny because it was introduced in the 60's, no fuel shortage then. | |||
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"It's not so much getting to 140mph that's the problem it's stopping once your at that speed They are built to stop on a dime have you not been watching top gear lately lol x My point is anyone can put their foot down in a fast (or not so fast) car Keeping a car under control at heavy braking from such speeds is where people usually cock up. " having your cock up in car when breaking at any speed not good | |||
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"It's not so much getting to 140mph that's the problem it's stopping once your at that speed They are built to stop on a dime have you not been watching top gear lately lol x" . Yes but something top gear don't mention is at 140 mph it will take an average person 150ft just to think about hitting the brake pedal.... At their age considerably more | |||
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"Many people don't realise the 70 mph limit was due to the fuel shortage in the 1970s not because of safety reasons. That's funny because it was introduced in the 60's, no fuel shortage then." . It's a famous story of somebody in a ac cobra doing a 100 up the m1 which brought in the speed limit, previously there'd thought that no cars would do over 70 | |||
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"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4. One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services... According to the speedo I touched 165... In the early 90's I had a BMW740... One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140... Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so. That's different from doing 128 in a 30 zone. If you do that you're an arsehole. " I absolutely agree with you. however if you look at the original post you will notice that 4 of the 5 examples were on motorways or trunk roads. Personally I have never exceeded speed limits in built up areas. | |||
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"Many people don't realise the 70 mph limit was due to the fuel shortage in the 1970s not because of safety reasons." It was actually set in 1965 in response to the likes of Jaguar, Aston, Bristol using the M6 and others as a high speed test track. Although the "actual" reason was attributed to a number of high speed crashes due to poor weather/fog. The Oil crisis was 50mph from dec 73 to mar 74. | |||
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" Or the mainly female drivers who find driving so tedious and boring that they text or otherwise use the phone,whilst driving at 60mph in the middle lane. " Care to reference your sources for this one? | |||
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"The 70mph speed limit on our motorways is outdated now and needs re_iewing. Cars are much safer now than when that 70mph limit was introduced, Air bags, better brakes and stopping distances and higher top speeds, (can easily cruise at 90mph to 100mph now). The motorway speed limit needs to move on with advances in car technology. " What about thinking of the environment then? 70 and under is probably best speed for our health and your pocket. Don't get me wrong I speed but if you have a turbo or injection then it kicks in about 70 which in 5th/6th gear is just under 3000 revs. Plus why do we need to be anywhere so bloody fast? | |||
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"Plus why do we need to be anywhere so bloody fast?" Because we can! | |||
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"Many people don't realise the 70 mph limit was due to the fuel shortage in the 1970s not because of safety reasons. It was actually set in 1965 in response to the likes of Jaguar, Aston, Bristol using the M6 and others as a high speed test track. Although the "actual" reason was attributed to a number of high speed crashes due to poor weather/fog. The Oil crisis was 50mph from dec 73 to mar 74." . And I may be alone on this but I think it should return to 50 | |||
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"Plus why do we need to be anywhere so bloody fast? Because we can! " No we can't At the rate of all the fossil fuel running out we won't be using cars in the near future | |||
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"Plus why do we need to be anywhere so bloody fast? Because we can! No we can't At the rate of all the fossil fuel running out we won't be using cars in the near future " Really? Ever heard of renewable energy? Ever heard of hydrogen fuel cells? 70% of the planet is covered with water (H2O) thats a lot of hydrogen to use once the hydrocarbons have been burned. | |||
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"The 70mph speed limit on our motorways is outdated now and needs re_iewing. Cars are much safer now than when that 70mph limit was introduced, Air bags, better brakes and stopping distances and higher top speeds, (can easily cruise at 90mph to 100mph now). The motorway speed limit needs to move on with advances in car technology. " | |||
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"Many people don't realise the 70 mph limit was due to the fuel shortage in the 1970s not because of safety reasons. That's funny because it was introduced in the 60's, no fuel shortage then." +++++++ ECEMBER 22, 1965: Britain’s 70mph top speed limit was imposed on motorways on this day in 1965 – in what was supposed to be only a temporary measure. The trial was introduced due to the high number of accidents while drivers were free to go as fast as they liked after the first highway – the M1 – was opened in 1959. The two-year experiment by the Department of Transport was deeply unpopular and led to protest campaigns by motoring groups such as the RAC and AA. Silent British Pathé footage shows hundreds of – mostly male - drivers attending a demonstration at Newport Pagnell service station on the M1 in Buckinghamshire. But by 1967 – when Transport Secretary Barbara Castle made her decision to make the speed limit permanent – polls showed 61 per cent of Britons were in favour. This was due to studies by the Government’s Road Research Laboratory that showed casualties had been cut by 20 per cent and 60 lives had been saved. However, motoring groups and manufacturers still doubted the report’s finding and demanded the speed limit was scrapped. Lord Chesham, executive vice-chairman of the RAC, then said: 'There are enough red herrings in this report to fill the hold of the largest Grimsby trawler.' Today, Britain’s top speed limit is one of the slowest in Europe and there have been repeated calls to increase it. | |||
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"There are also cases of speed limits being set too far below the 85th percentile where the number of accidents actually increased. Recall one stretch of road down in Exeter that was changed from a 50 to a 40 then reverted back to a 50 again ++++++ The speed limit is commonly set at or below the 85th percentile operating speed (being the speed which no more than 15% of traffic is exceeding)[39][40][41] and in the US is typically set 8 to 12 mph (13 to 19 km/h) below that speed.[42] Thus, if the 85th percentile operating speed as measured by a Traffic and Engineering Survey exceeds the design speed, compulsory legal protection is given to that speed—even if it is unsafe. This speed creep tends to continue until the 85th percentile operating speed is comparable to speed psychologically perceived as uncomfortably hazardous. The theory behind the 85th percentile rules is, that as a policy, most of the electorate should be seen as lawful, and limits must be practical to enforce. However, there are some circumstances where motorists do not tend to process all the risks involved, and as a mass choose a poor 85th percentile speed. This rule in substance is a process for voting the speed limit by driving; and in contrast to delegating the speed limit to an engineering expert " Leaves the thread with a headache | |||
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"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4. One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services... According to the speedo I touched 165... In the early 90's I had a BMW740... One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140... Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so." Tbh I think it makes you irresponsible. If there's an incident/pile-up/debris ahead of you, there's no way you can respond appropriately at that speed - therefore you simply add to the problem/pile-up/mortality rate! | |||
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"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4. One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services... According to the speedo I touched 165... In the early 90's I had a BMW740... One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140... Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so. Tbh I think it makes you irresponsible. If there's an incident/pile-up/debris ahead of you, there's no way you can respond appropriately at that speed - therefore you simply add to the problem/pile-up/mortality rate! " ++++++++++ Its all about appropriate speed (or as the Police refer to it, making progress with caution) taking into account all the factors such as visibility, road surface,weather conditions, road layout, traffic volume etc etc Just because you can safely do 150mph (as an extremish example) on a particular stretch of road at one time doesn't necessarily mean you can on another | |||
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"i must be the one person who like tootling down the motorway at 70..ish... okay... its a little closer to 75-80 but i dont feel the rush to go any faster than that..... I only go into lane 2 and lane 3 when i need to overtake..... " I do the same and find on a long journey I can get 70mpg instead of 60mpg | |||
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"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4. One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services... According to the speedo I touched 165... In the early 90's I had a BMW740... One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140... Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so. Tbh I think it makes you irresponsible. If there's an incident/pile-up/debris ahead of you, there's no way you can respond appropriately at that speed - therefore you simply add to the problem/pile-up/mortality rate! " OK... So I am not capable of riding or driving at that sort of speed because I don't know how to (although at the time I held and RAC national restricted track and rally competition licence, an ACU road/track clubman licence as well as IAM car and bike licences plus having passed a military all arms advanced driving course run at School of Mechanical Transport, Leconfield.) However a police officer has the skill providing a Garage Sargent says so. bit like it's unacceptably dangerous to use a none hands free phone (same as being d*unk) while driving unless your a police officer when it's OK (the law does not apply to police). OK not really fair as I did not let anyone know I used to race or attended military driving courses... But, my point is speed is not an issue, inappropriate speed is and there is a big difference. | |||
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"i must be the one person who like tootling down the motorway at 70..ish... okay... its a little closer to 75-80 but i dont feel the rush to go any faster than that..... I only go into lane 2 and lane 3 when i need to overtake..... I do the same and find on a long journey I can get 70mpg instead of 60mpg" if you cut it down to 55 you'd probably get nearer 80 mpg. And think of it this way on a 100 mile journey it will only cost you around an extra 20 minutes | |||
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"i must be the one person who like tootling down the motorway at 70..ish... okay... its a little closer to 75-80 but i dont feel the rush to go any faster than that..... I only go into lane 2 and lane 3 when i need to overtake..... I do the same and find on a long journey I can get 70mpg instead of 60mpg if you cut it down to 55 you'd probably get nearer 80 mpg. And think of it this way on a 100 mile journey it will only cost you around an extra 20 minutes" ++++ 55mph? I'm sure a lot of people on the M6 or the M60 would like to be able to get up to that speed ;o) | |||
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"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4. One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services... According to the speedo I touched 165... In the early 90's I had a BMW740... One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140... Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so. Tbh I think it makes you irresponsible. If there's an incident/pile-up/debris ahead of you, there's no way you can respond appropriately at that speed - therefore you simply add to the problem/pile-up/mortality rate! OK... So I am not capable of riding or driving at that sort of speed because I don't know how to (although at the time I held and RAC national restricted track and rally competition licence, an ACU road/track clubman licence as well as IAM car and bike licences plus having passed a military all arms advanced driving course run at School of Mechanical Transport, Leconfield.) However a police officer has the skill providing a Garage Sargent says so. bit like it's unacceptably dangerous to use a none hands free phone (same as being d*unk) while driving unless your a police officer when it's OK (the law does not apply to police). OK not really fair as I did not let anyone know I used to race or attended military driving courses... But, my point is speed is not an issue, inappropriate speed is and there is a big difference." Lots of top racing drivers have died driving fast, you cannot say that you have the skill to drive fast and therefore that minimises risks on the road. That is just nonsense, you may have the skill on the track but you are in a controlled environment, on the road you are not... speed kills, it's a fact. | |||
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"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4. One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services... According to the speedo I touched 165... In the early 90's I had a BMW740... One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140... Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so." . If you were adhering to the speed limits there would be a lot more time to react if things go wrong . Speed limits are set for a reason . | |||
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"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4. One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services... According to the speedo I touched 165... In the early 90's I had a BMW740... One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140... Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so. Tbh I think it makes you irresponsible. If there's an incident/pile-up/debris ahead of you, there's no way you can respond appropriately at that speed - therefore you simply add to the problem/pile-up/mortality rate! OK... So I am not capable of riding or driving at that sort of speed because I don't know how to (although at the time I held and RAC national restricted track and rally competition licence, an ACU road/track clubman licence as well as IAM car and bike licences plus having passed a military all arms advanced driving course run at School of Mechanical Transport, Leconfield.) However a police officer has the skill providing a Garage Sargent says so. bit like it's unacceptably dangerous to use a none hands free phone (same as being d*unk) while driving unless your a police officer when it's OK (the law does not apply to police). OK not really fair as I did not let anyone know I used to race or attended military driving courses... But, my point is speed is not an issue, inappropriate speed is and there is a big difference." . How can driving at a speed in excess of 70 even with all your training be justified . ?. It shows a callous indifference towards other road users. I dread to think what would happen if you had a tyre blowout at 140. or maybe failed to notice a workman attending to an emergency. He / she would not expect anyone to be driving at these speeds which are best left. to a race track. | |||
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"All previous comments notwithstanding, it's time for a sensible re_iew of speed limits on motorways and arguably some major trunk roads with central reservations. The current limits were set in the 1950s and based on the stopping distance of something like a split windscreen Morris Minor with primitive drum brakes. The stopping distances in the highway code are risibly ludicrous and have been for several years. As demonstrated recently by Top Gear, a Diesel Vauxhall Insignia can stop from 112 mph in the distance quoted for 70 mph in the highway code." I can see where you are coming from with this but has the stopping distance of a 40 ton truck improved to the same level. I'm not sure if it has or not, but if we are to look at the speed of cars on the motorway then we would have to also look at the speeds of other vehicles too. Perhaps if we are to take it to an extreme and look at what is done on the German Autobahns. However I'm not sure that the skills of the average motorist would be up to the job and even in Germany the manufacturers themselves limit the speed to 155mph. | |||
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"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4. One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services... According to the speedo I touched 165... In the early 90's I had a BMW740... One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140... Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so. Tbh I think it makes you irresponsible. If there's an incident/pile-up/debris ahead of you, there's no way you can respond appropriately at that speed - therefore you simply add to the problem/pile-up/mortality rate! OK... So I am not capable of riding or driving at that sort of speed because I don't know how to (although at the time I held and RAC national restricted track and rally competition licence, an ACU road/track clubman licence as well as IAM car and bike licences plus having passed a military all arms advanced driving course run at School of Mechanical Transport, Leconfield.) However a police officer has the skill providing a Garage Sargent says so. bit like it's unacceptably dangerous to use a none hands free phone (same as being d*unk) while driving unless your a police officer when it's OK (the law does not apply to police). OK not really fair as I did not let anyone know I used to race or attended military driving courses... But, my point is speed is not an issue, inappropriate speed is and there is a big difference." i did all the courses your talking about and more and as i recall the I.A.M. and the military ones were not about driving like a loon.. far from it, which you would know.. | |||
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"All previous comments notwithstanding, it's time for a sensible re_iew of speed limits on motorways and arguably some major trunk roads with central reservations. The current limits were set in the 1950s and based on the stopping distance of something like a split windscreen Morris Minor with primitive drum brakes. The stopping distances in the highway code are risibly ludicrous and have been for several years. As demonstrated recently by Top Gear, a Diesel Vauxhall Insignia can stop from 112 mph in the distance quoted for 70 mph in the highway code." Very true but there is also a lot more traffic around . The danger of increasing the limits is that people will drive even faster . As a broad generalisation , the slower your speed , the more time you have to react if anything does go wrong . | |||
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"Of course, but by reductio ad absurdiam, we should bring back the red flag rule. It's about what is sensible and appropriate" Well if we have enough accidents caused by idiots who drive too fast because they think they have the skills to do so then we will probably have the red flag brought back. Just because someone has a car that is capable of high speeds does not make it either sensible or appropriate to use all the power all the time. | |||
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"All previous comments notwithstanding, it's time for a sensible re_iew of speed limits on motorways and arguably some major trunk roads with central reservations. The current limits were set in the 1950s and based on the stopping distance of something like a split windscreen Morris Minor with primitive drum brakes. The stopping distances in the highway code are risibly ludicrous and have been for several years. As demonstrated recently by Top Gear, a Diesel Vauxhall Insignia can stop from 112 mph in the distance quoted for 70 mph in the highway code." . It's a generic speed limit. Not everyone drives a 3 year old Vauxhall. The older you get the slower your reactions. Unless you go down the line of loads of different speed limits for different cars,different drivers it's 70 for the average, you might be able to do a hundred, there may be people who can drink 6 pints and have the reactions that somebody on one pint has. They have to average things out and I'm afraid we're all stuck with it. | |||
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"I don't disagree, the point is, that the stopping distances which are still used today are ludicrously and laughably out of date. I agree, it's a limit, not a target. People should drive within their limits and capabilities of their vehicle. Even a 20 year old Fiesta would outperform the figures used in the highway code" . Yeah but what about a 20 year old fiesta driven by a 70 year old?. | |||
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