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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The worst speeding drivers in 2014

146mph Twice on the M25 in Kent at Westerham and Swanley (70mph limit)

145mph M6 Toll in Staffordshire (70mph limit)

141mph A1 in Great Ponton, Lincolnshire (70mph limit)

128mph A22 in East Grinstead, West Sussex (30mph limit)

119mph M1 in Swinford, Leicestershire (50mph limit)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They probably all got a "Yes" response to a "I'm in the area, wanna fuck tonight" question

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"They probably all got a "Yes" response to a "I'm in the area, wanna fuck tonight" question"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are idiots !!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The one doing 128 in a 30! Fucktard!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

128 in a 30!!

That's just mindless.

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By *ittle Pocket PerveWoman
over a year ago

Portsmouth


"They probably all got a "Yes" response to a "I'm in the area, wanna fuck tonight" question"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only meet people 30 minutes drive away

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By *aul_the_nudistMan
over a year ago

WREXHAM


"Only meet people 30 minutes drive away"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Only meet people 30 minutes drive away"

So thats about 135 miles then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was there a custodial sentence ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well of course they're fucking idiots everyone knows if you want to speed in Kent then do it on the M20 between Maidstone & Folkestone because there's no cameras on that stretch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only meet people 30 minutes drive away

So thats about 135 miles then? "

Give or take.

Normally a bit of traffic so I draw the line at around the 120 mark

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The one doing 128 in a 30! Fucktard!"

this..

totally cuntish behaviour..

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

To be fair the M6 toll is lovely and empty, so you just want to put your foot down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For how much a speeding find costs, it's cheaper to go and do a track day where you can drive as fast as your skills allow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For how much a speeding find costs, it's cheaper to go and do a track day where you can drive as fast as your skills allow. "
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I did track racing as a youth.

Most people who speed are wank drivers!.

We used to have twats come down in some fancy ford cosworth and come last and couldn't think why till some guy said.... There's more to going fast than shoving your foot on an accelerator

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I thought the figures were kilometres not miles for a minute!! My car doesn't even do 140 mph.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For how much a speeding find costs, it's cheaper to go and do a track day where you can drive as fast as your skills allow. "

Plus the recovery truck fees.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its simple if you have been in / experienced fast cars or high performance cars you drive them simply because you know what they can do, its the idiots that get a fast car and dont know how to drive that cause mayhem and accidents, a truly good driver will take the road for what it is regardless of what car they are in

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"For how much a speeding find costs, it's cheaper to go and do a track day where you can drive as fast as your skills allow. "

Or Mad Sunday if yer a biker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always behave in built up areas (too easy to be captured...), open countryside is a different matter on the bike

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For how much a speeding find costs, it's cheaper to go and do a track day where you can drive as fast as your skills allow. .

I did track racing as a youth.

Most people who speed are wank drivers!.

We used to have twats come down in some fancy ford cosworth and come last and couldn't think why till some guy said.... There's more to going fast than shoving your foot on an accelerator"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works....."

...only needed 88mph

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works.....

...only needed 88mph"

Modern day equivalent maybe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works.....

...only needed 88mph"

Bit more than 88mph..

Needed a spark too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works.....

...only needed 88mph

Bit more than 88mph..

Needed a spark too"

Easy in a Veyron

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works.....

...only needed 88mph

Bit more than 88mph..

Needed a spark too

Easy in a Veyron "

Its been 2.5 years since we met at the lodge... time also flys fast

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works.....

...only needed 88mph

Bit more than 88mph..

Needed a spark too

Easy in a Veyron

Its been 2.5 years since we met at the lodge... time also flys fast"

I return to my previous statement " its easy in a Veyron " lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works.....

...only needed 88mph

Bit more than 88mph..

Needed a spark too

Easy in a Veyron

Its been 2.5 years since we met at the lodge... time also flys fast

I return to my previous statement " its easy in a Veyron " lol "

Are you saying you bought one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works.....

...only needed 88mph

Bit more than 88mph..

Needed a spark too

Easy in a Veyron

Its been 2.5 years since we met at the lodge... time also flys fast

I return to my previous statement " its easy in a Veyron " lol

Are you saying you bought one"

Ha ha fuck no lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works.....

...only needed 88mph

Bit more than 88mph..

Needed a spark too

Easy in a Veyron

Its been 2.5 years since we met at the lodge... time also flys fast

I return to my previous statement " its easy in a Veyron " lol

Are you saying you bought one

Ha ha fuck no lol "

Good. They have no appeal.. cant beat good old great British AM

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Everyone knows the delorian has to reach a high speed before it works.....

...only needed 88mph

Bit more than 88mph..

Needed a spark too

Easy in a Veyron

Its been 2.5 years since we met at the lodge... time also flys fast

I return to my previous statement " its easy in a Veyron " lol

Are you saying you bought one

Ha ha fuck no lol

Good. They have no appeal.. cant beat good old great British AM"

Mmm a gorgeous db9 vanquish......... enough said lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not so much getting to 140mph that's the problem it's stopping once your at that speed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not so much getting to 140mph that's the problem it's stopping once your at that speed

"

They are built to stop on a dime have you not been watching top gear lately lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not so much getting to 140mph that's the problem it's stopping once your at that speed

They are built to stop on a dime have you not been watching top gear lately lol x"

My point is anyone can put their foot down in a fast (or not so fast) car

Keeping a car under control at heavy braking from such speeds is where people usually cock up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not so much getting to 140mph that's the problem it's stopping once your at that speed

They are built to stop on a dime have you not been watching top gear lately lol x

My point is anyone can put their foot down in a fast (or not so fast) car

Keeping a car under control at heavy braking from such speeds is where people usually cock up.

"

Yep with you on that , hence my earlier post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only meet people 30 minutes drive away

So thats about 135 miles then?

Give or take.

Normally a bit of traffic so I draw the line at around the 120 mark"

This means there doing 270mph?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston

In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4.

One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services...

According to the speedo I touched 165...

In the early 90's I had a BMW740...

One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140...

Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so.

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By *athnBobCouple
over a year ago

sandwell

Even idiots can be nice people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4.

One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services...

According to the speedo I touched 165...

In the early 90's I had a BMW740...

One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140...

Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so."

That's different from doing 128 in a 30 zone. If you do that you're an arsehole.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whilst 3 digits in a 30 is completely unacceptable 3 digits on a relatively empty motorway is a different kettle of fish.

Yes it may be illegal according to UK law but that doesn't necessarily or automatically make it unsafe.

The classic example is the German Autobahns, ok it's not as easy to do long stretches there as it used to be but I have on more than one occasion been sat on the bike (Honda Blackbird) at speeds in excess of 150mph and all completely legal.

And no I'm not going to be sanctimonious and say I don't speed in this country.

If it's safe to do so then I have been known to make progress with caution at speeds in excess of the posted speed limit.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7iUKaPlBl8

LOL

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

Many people don't realise the 70 mph limit was due to the fuel shortage in the 1970s not because of safety reasons.

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Many people don't realise the 70 mph limit was due to the fuel shortage in the 1970s not because of safety reasons."

Whereas the 30 mph limit in built up areas can make a difference to a pedestrian surviving a traffic accident.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i never would and never could - my punto flashes engine management at me if i tickle 70

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Many people don't realise the 70 mph limit was due to the fuel shortage in the 1970s not because of safety reasons."

That's funny because it was introduced in the 60's, no fuel shortage then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't speed on the M25.

They have recently activated a whole load of cameras that were previously dormant. There is one near j18 anti clock that I see go off most days when traffic is light

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not so much getting to 140mph that's the problem it's stopping once your at that speed

They are built to stop on a dime have you not been watching top gear lately lol x

My point is anyone can put their foot down in a fast (or not so fast) car

Keeping a car under control at heavy braking from such speeds is where people usually cock up.

"

having your cock up in car when breaking at any speed not good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's not so much getting to 140mph that's the problem it's stopping once your at that speed

They are built to stop on a dime have you not been watching top gear lately lol x"

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Yes but something top gear don't mention is at 140 mph it will take an average person 150ft just to think about hitting the brake pedal.... At their age considerably more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Many people don't realise the 70 mph limit was due to the fuel shortage in the 1970s not because of safety reasons.

That's funny because it was introduced in the 60's, no fuel shortage then."

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It's a famous story of somebody in a ac cobra doing a 100 up the m1 which brought in the speed limit, previously there'd thought that no cars would do over 70

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By *bfoxxxMan
over a year ago

Crete or LANCASTER

The speed limit is a cash cow.

It has little relevance to safety except in town, where 30mph whilst a legal speed, may well be more dangerous than 120mph on an open road, or motorway.

Unfortunately the camera hasn't been invented that detects idiots,lame brains or ***** that shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a motor vehicle.

Or the mainly female drivers who find driving so tedious and boring that they text or otherwise use the phone,whilst driving at 60mph in the middle lane.

Or white van man,driving in town.

Give me a speeding driver in a safe vehicle at 120mph anyday.

At least they are concentrating.

I'm off to Germany soon, and will certainly be driving at 120mph, and I will be overtaken.

Ayreton Senna famously got off a 140 mph speeding offence.

I have had, or been involved in other people's accidents when I have been stopped at lights, or parked.None when driving.

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4.

One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services...

According to the speedo I touched 165...

In the early 90's I had a BMW740...

One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140...

Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so.

That's different from doing 128 in a 30 zone. If you do that you're an arsehole. "

I absolutely agree with you. however if you look at the original post you will notice that 4 of the 5 examples were on motorways or trunk roads. Personally I have never exceeded speed limits in built up areas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Speed is objective and easy to enforce by camera. One is either over the limit or they are not. Unlike dangerous/careless driving which is a matter of opinion and unenforceable by the cash cow cameras

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hello Sexybum,

"It's a famous story of somebody in a ac cobra doing a 100 up the m1 "

There's a bit more to it than that, and for the few that had cars capable of 100 plus in those days it was common to do that speed.

The AC story was about the works team testing their Le Mans cars and at considerably more than a pedestrian 100 mph.

The works test driver for Aston Martin used to thrash up and down the M1 in the DB4 and DB5 using all the performance. You only have to see pictures of the M1 of that era, very few cars or trucks then.

Alec

aLEC

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

silly people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Many people don't realise the 70 mph limit was due to the fuel shortage in the 1970s not because of safety reasons."

It was actually set in 1965 in response to the likes of Jaguar, Aston, Bristol using the M6 and others as a high speed test track.

Although the "actual" reason was attributed to a number of high speed crashes due to poor weather/fog.

The Oil crisis was 50mph from dec 73 to mar 74.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Or the mainly female drivers who find driving so tedious and boring that they text or otherwise use the phone,whilst driving at 60mph in the middle lane.

"

Care to reference your sources for this one?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The longest skid marks were left on the M1 by a jag doing in excess of 100mph

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

The 70mph speed limit on our motorways is outdated now and needs re_iewing. Cars are much safer now than when that 70mph limit was introduced, Air bags, better brakes and stopping distances and higher top speeds, (can easily cruise at 90mph to 100mph now). The motorway speed limit needs to move on with advances in car technology.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The 70mph speed limit on our motorways is outdated now and needs re_iewing. Cars are much safer now than when that 70mph limit was introduced, Air bags, better brakes and stopping distances and higher top speeds, (can easily cruise at 90mph to 100mph now). The motorway speed limit needs to move on with advances in car technology. "

What about thinking of the environment then?

70 and under is probably best speed for our health and your pocket.

Don't get me wrong I speed but if you have a turbo or injection then it kicks in about 70 which in 5th/6th gear is just under 3000 revs.

Plus why do we need to be anywhere so bloody fast?

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Plus why do we need to be anywhere so bloody fast?"

Because we can!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Many people don't realise the 70 mph limit was due to the fuel shortage in the 1970s not because of safety reasons.

It was actually set in 1965 in response to the likes of Jaguar, Aston, Bristol using the M6 and others as a high speed test track.

Although the "actual" reason was attributed to a number of high speed crashes due to poor weather/fog.

The Oil crisis was 50mph from dec 73 to mar 74."

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And I may be alone on this but I think it should return to 50

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Plus why do we need to be anywhere so bloody fast?

Because we can!

"

No we can't

At the rate of all the fossil fuel running out we won't be using cars in the near future

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i must be the one person who like tootling down the motorway at 70..ish...

okay... its a little closer to 75-80 but i dont feel the rush to go any faster than that..... I only go into lane 2 and lane 3 when i need to overtake.....

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"Plus why do we need to be anywhere so bloody fast?

Because we can!

No we can't

At the rate of all the fossil fuel running out we won't be using cars in the near future "

Really?

Ever heard of renewable energy?

Ever heard of hydrogen fuel cells?

70% of the planet is covered with water (H2O) thats a lot of hydrogen to use once the hydrocarbons have been burned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The 70mph speed limit on our motorways is outdated now and needs re_iewing. Cars are much safer now than when that 70mph limit was introduced, Air bags, better brakes and stopping distances and higher top speeds, (can easily cruise at 90mph to 100mph now). The motorway speed limit needs to move on with advances in car technology. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Many people don't realise the 70 mph limit was due to the fuel shortage in the 1970s not because of safety reasons.

That's funny because it was introduced in the 60's, no fuel shortage then."

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ECEMBER 22, 1965: Britain’s 70mph top speed limit was imposed on motorways on this day in 1965 – in what was supposed to be only a temporary measure.

The trial was introduced due to the high number of accidents while drivers were free to go as fast as they liked after the first highway – the M1 – was opened in 1959.

The two-year experiment by the Department of Transport was deeply unpopular and led to protest campaigns by motoring groups such as the RAC and AA.

Silent British Pathé footage shows hundreds of – mostly male - drivers attending a demonstration at Newport Pagnell service station on the M1 in Buckinghamshire.

But by 1967 – when Transport Secretary Barbara Castle made her decision to make the speed limit permanent – polls showed 61 per cent of Britons were in favour.

This was due to studies by the Government’s Road Research Laboratory that showed casualties had been cut by 20 per cent and 60 lives had been saved.

However, motoring groups and manufacturers still doubted the report’s finding and demanded the speed limit was scrapped.

Lord Chesham, executive vice-chairman of the RAC, then said: 'There are enough red herrings in this report to fill the hold of the largest Grimsby trawler.'

Today, Britain’s top speed limit is one of the slowest in Europe and there have been repeated calls to increase it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are also cases of speed limits being set too far below the 85th percentile where the number of accidents actually increased.

Recall one stretch of road down in Exeter that was changed from a 50 to a 40 then reverted back to a 50 again

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The speed limit is commonly set at or below the 85th percentile operating speed (being the speed which no more than 15% of traffic is exceeding)[39][40][41] and in the US is typically set 8 to 12 mph (13 to 19 km/h) below that speed.[42] Thus, if the 85th percentile operating speed as measured by a Traffic and Engineering Survey exceeds the design speed, compulsory legal protection is given to that speed—even if it is unsafe. This speed creep tends to continue until the 85th percentile operating speed is comparable to speed psychologically perceived as uncomfortably hazardous.

The theory behind the 85th percentile rules is, that as a policy, most of the electorate should be seen as lawful, and limits must be practical to enforce. However, there are some circumstances where motorists do not tend to process all the risks involved, and as a mass choose a poor 85th percentile speed.

This rule in substance is a process for voting the speed limit by driving; and in contrast to delegating the speed limit to an engineering expert

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By *horltzMan
over a year ago

heysham


"There are also cases of speed limits being set too far below the 85th percentile where the number of accidents actually increased.

Recall one stretch of road down in Exeter that was changed from a 50 to a 40 then reverted back to a 50 again

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The speed limit is commonly set at or below the 85th percentile operating speed (being the speed which no more than 15% of traffic is exceeding)[39][40][41] and in the US is typically set 8 to 12 mph (13 to 19 km/h) below that speed.[42] Thus, if the 85th percentile operating speed as measured by a Traffic and Engineering Survey exceeds the design speed, compulsory legal protection is given to that speed—even if it is unsafe. This speed creep tends to continue until the 85th percentile operating speed is comparable to speed psychologically perceived as uncomfortably hazardous.

The theory behind the 85th percentile rules is, that as a policy, most of the electorate should be seen as lawful, and limits must be practical to enforce. However, there are some circumstances where motorists do not tend to process all the risks involved, and as a mass choose a poor 85th percentile speed.

This rule in substance is a process for voting the speed limit by driving; and in contrast to delegating the speed limit to an engineering expert

"

Leaves the thread with a headache

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4.

One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services...

According to the speedo I touched 165...

In the early 90's I had a BMW740...

One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140...

Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so."

Tbh I think it makes you irresponsible. If there's an incident/pile-up/debris ahead of you, there's no way you can respond appropriately at that speed - therefore you simply add to the problem/pile-up/mortality rate!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4.

One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services...

According to the speedo I touched 165...

In the early 90's I had a BMW740...

One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140...

Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so.

Tbh I think it makes you irresponsible. If there's an incident/pile-up/debris ahead of you, there's no way you can respond appropriately at that speed - therefore you simply add to the problem/pile-up/mortality rate! "

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Its all about appropriate speed (or as the Police refer to it, making progress with caution) taking into account all the factors such as visibility, road surface,weather conditions, road layout, traffic volume etc etc

Just because you can safely do 150mph (as an extremish example) on a particular stretch of road at one time doesn't necessarily mean you can on another

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By *obsrocketMan
over a year ago

Loughborough


"i must be the one person who like tootling down the motorway at 70..ish...

okay... its a little closer to 75-80 but i dont feel the rush to go any faster than that..... I only go into lane 2 and lane 3 when i need to overtake.....

"

I do the same and find on a long journey I can get 70mpg instead of 60mpg

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By *illwill69uMan
over a year ago

moston


"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4.

One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services...

According to the speedo I touched 165...

In the early 90's I had a BMW740...

One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140...

Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so.

Tbh I think it makes you irresponsible. If there's an incident/pile-up/debris ahead of you, there's no way you can respond appropriately at that speed - therefore you simply add to the problem/pile-up/mortality rate! "

OK...

So I am not capable of riding or driving at that sort of speed because I don't know how to (although at the time I held and RAC national restricted track and rally competition licence, an ACU road/track clubman licence as well as IAM car and bike licences plus having passed a military all arms advanced driving course run at School of Mechanical Transport, Leconfield.) However a police officer has the skill providing a Garage Sargent says so. bit like it's unacceptably dangerous to use a none hands free phone (same as being d*unk) while driving unless your a police officer when it's OK (the law does not apply to police).

OK not really fair as I did not let anyone know I used to race or attended military driving courses...

But, my point is speed is not an issue, inappropriate speed is and there is a big difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i must be the one person who like tootling down the motorway at 70..ish...

okay... its a little closer to 75-80 but i dont feel the rush to go any faster than that..... I only go into lane 2 and lane 3 when i need to overtake.....

I do the same and find on a long journey I can get 70mpg instead of 60mpg"

if you cut it down to 55 you'd probably get nearer 80 mpg.

And think of it this way on a 100 mile journey it will only cost you around an extra 20 minutes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i must be the one person who like tootling down the motorway at 70..ish...

okay... its a little closer to 75-80 but i dont feel the rush to go any faster than that..... I only go into lane 2 and lane 3 when i need to overtake.....

I do the same and find on a long journey I can get 70mpg instead of 60mpg if you cut it down to 55 you'd probably get nearer 80 mpg.

And think of it this way on a 100 mile journey it will only cost you around an extra 20 minutes"

++++

55mph?

I'm sure a lot of people on the M6 or the M60 would like to be able to get up to that speed ;o)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4.

One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services...

According to the speedo I touched 165...

In the early 90's I had a BMW740...

One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140...

Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so.

Tbh I think it makes you irresponsible. If there's an incident/pile-up/debris ahead of you, there's no way you can respond appropriately at that speed - therefore you simply add to the problem/pile-up/mortality rate!

OK...

So I am not capable of riding or driving at that sort of speed because I don't know how to (although at the time I held and RAC national restricted track and rally competition licence, an ACU road/track clubman licence as well as IAM car and bike licences plus having passed a military all arms advanced driving course run at School of Mechanical Transport, Leconfield.) However a police officer has the skill providing a Garage Sargent says so. bit like it's unacceptably dangerous to use a none hands free phone (same as being d*unk) while driving unless your a police officer when it's OK (the law does not apply to police).

OK not really fair as I did not let anyone know I used to race or attended military driving courses...

But, my point is speed is not an issue, inappropriate speed is and there is a big difference."

Lots of top racing drivers have died driving fast, you cannot say that you have the skill to drive fast and therefore that minimises risks on the road.

That is just nonsense, you may have the skill on the track but you are in a controlled environment, on the road you are not... speed kills, it's a fact.

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4.

One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services...

According to the speedo I touched 165...

In the early 90's I had a BMW740...

One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140...

Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so."

. If you were adhering to the speed limits there would be a lot more time to react if things go wrong . Speed limits are set for a reason .

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4.

One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services...

According to the speedo I touched 165...

In the early 90's I had a BMW740...

One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140...

Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so.

Tbh I think it makes you irresponsible. If there's an incident/pile-up/debris ahead of you, there's no way you can respond appropriately at that speed - therefore you simply add to the problem/pile-up/mortality rate!

OK...

So I am not capable of riding or driving at that sort of speed because I don't know how to (although at the time I held and RAC national restricted track and rally competition licence, an ACU road/track clubman licence as well as IAM car and bike licences plus having passed a military all arms advanced driving course run at School of Mechanical Transport, Leconfield.) However a police officer has the skill providing a Garage Sargent says so. bit like it's unacceptably dangerous to use a none hands free phone (same as being d*unk) while driving unless your a police officer when it's OK (the law does not apply to police).

OK not really fair as I did not let anyone know I used to race or attended military driving courses...

But, my point is speed is not an issue, inappropriate speed is and there is a big difference."

. How can driving at a speed in excess of 70 even with all your training be justified . ?. It shows a callous indifference towards other road users. I dread to think what would happen if you had a tyre blowout at 140. or maybe failed to notice a workman attending to an emergency. He / she would not expect anyone to be driving at these speeds which are best left. to a race track.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

All previous comments notwithstanding, it's time for a sensible re_iew of speed limits on motorways and arguably some major trunk roads with central reservations.

The current limits were set in the 1950s and based on the stopping distance of something like a split windscreen Morris Minor with primitive drum brakes.

The stopping distances in the highway code are risibly ludicrous and have been for several years.

As demonstrated recently by Top Gear, a Diesel Vauxhall Insignia can stop from 112 mph in the distance quoted for 70 mph in the highway code.

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By *obsrocketMan
over a year ago

Loughborough


"All previous comments notwithstanding, it's time for a sensible re_iew of speed limits on motorways and arguably some major trunk roads with central reservations.

The current limits were set in the 1950s and based on the stopping distance of something like a split windscreen Morris Minor with primitive drum brakes.

The stopping distances in the highway code are risibly ludicrous and have been for several years.

As demonstrated recently by Top Gear, a Diesel Vauxhall Insignia can stop from 112 mph in the distance quoted for 70 mph in the highway code."

I can see where you are coming from with this but has the stopping distance of a 40 ton truck improved to the same level. I'm not sure if it has or not, but if we are to look at the speed of cars on the motorway then we would have to also look at the speeds of other vehicles too. Perhaps if we are to take it to an extreme and look at what is done on the German Autobahns. However I'm not sure that the skills of the average motorist would be up to the job and even in Germany the manufacturers themselves limit the speed to 155mph.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

There are already different rules for different types of vehicle, and these may need to be enhanced too with the new gross weights - probably reduced to 50 for the heaviest LGVs.

I like the German model, managed motorways with variable speed limits, and un-restricted where clear and safe. They also have harsh penalties for driving like a cunt, eg tailgating at high speed

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"In the mid 80's I had a Bimoto SB4.

One night I took it for a blast on the M6 between Middlewich and Knutsford services...

According to the speedo I touched 165...

In the early 90's I had a BMW740...

One morning I was late setting out for an appointment in Aberdeen and I don't think I dropped below 90 on the M6 and I know at times I was doing over 140...

Does this make me a bad person? I don't think so.

Tbh I think it makes you irresponsible. If there's an incident/pile-up/debris ahead of you, there's no way you can respond appropriately at that speed - therefore you simply add to the problem/pile-up/mortality rate!

OK...

So I am not capable of riding or driving at that sort of speed because I don't know how to (although at the time I held and RAC national restricted track and rally competition licence, an ACU road/track clubman licence as well as IAM car and bike licences plus having passed a military all arms advanced driving course run at School of Mechanical Transport, Leconfield.) However a police officer has the skill providing a Garage Sargent says so. bit like it's unacceptably dangerous to use a none hands free phone (same as being d*unk) while driving unless your a police officer when it's OK (the law does not apply to police).

OK not really fair as I did not let anyone know I used to race or attended military driving courses...

But, my point is speed is not an issue, inappropriate speed is and there is a big difference."

i did all the courses your talking about and more and as i recall the I.A.M. and the military ones were not about driving like a loon..

far from it, which you would know..

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford


"All previous comments notwithstanding, it's time for a sensible re_iew of speed limits on motorways and arguably some major trunk roads with central reservations.

The current limits were set in the 1950s and based on the stopping distance of something like a split windscreen Morris Minor with primitive drum brakes.

The stopping distances in the highway code are risibly ludicrous and have been for several years.

As demonstrated recently by Top Gear, a Diesel Vauxhall Insignia can stop from 112 mph in the distance quoted for 70 mph in the highway code."

Very true but there is also a lot more traffic around . The danger of increasing the limits is that people will drive even faster . As a broad generalisation , the slower your speed , the more time you have to react if anything does go wrong .

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

Of course, but by reductio ad absurdiam, we should bring back the red flag rule. It's about what is sensible and appropriate

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley


"They probably all got a "Yes" response to a "I'm in the area, wanna fuck tonight" question"

Mine turned up on a bicycle

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

My point about highway code stopping distances is that in continuing to assert what most informed people know is ludicrous, it brings into disrepute the current speed limits.

Personally, I use my judgement. In built up areas I drive like a saint, observing the limits and taking extra care near schools, hospitals etc.

On a clear motorway with good visibility, with a capable car, I feel ok up to around 150, but cruise at just below 100 to avoid an instant ban if caught. I've calibrated my speedo, so I know if it it shows 100, I'm doing 95. Obviously, if there's traffic, or bad weather, then I reduce speed accordingly

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By *obsrocketMan
over a year ago

Loughborough


"Of course, but by reductio ad absurdiam, we should bring back the red flag rule. It's about what is sensible and appropriate"

Well if we have enough accidents caused by idiots who drive too fast because they think they have the skills to do so then we will probably have the red flag brought back. Just because someone has a car that is capable of high speeds does not make it either sensible or appropriate to use all the power all the time.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

I don't disagree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All previous comments notwithstanding, it's time for a sensible re_iew of speed limits on motorways and arguably some major trunk roads with central reservations.

The current limits were set in the 1950s and based on the stopping distance of something like a split windscreen Morris Minor with primitive drum brakes.

The stopping distances in the highway code are risibly ludicrous and have been for several years.

As demonstrated recently by Top Gear, a Diesel Vauxhall Insignia can stop from 112 mph in the distance quoted for 70 mph in the highway code."

.

It's a generic speed limit.

Not everyone drives a 3 year old Vauxhall.

The older you get the slower your reactions.

Unless you go down the line of loads of different speed limits for different cars,different drivers it's 70 for the average, you might be able to do a hundred, there may be people who can drink 6 pints and have the reactions that somebody on one pint has.

They have to average things out and I'm afraid we're all stuck with it.

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen

I don't disagree, the point is, that the stopping distances which are still used today are ludicrously and laughably out of date.

I agree, it's a limit, not a target.

People should drive within their limits and capabilities of their vehicle.

Even a 20 year old Fiesta would outperform the figures used in the highway code

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would agree with the modern vehicles and old speed limits until I saw what fuel does to tarmac in a short period.

The tarmac disintegrates leaving the road unsafe and in need of urgent repair.

I've never driven on German roads, are they tarmac or concrete ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't disagree, the point is, that the stopping distances which are still used today are ludicrously and laughably out of date.

I agree, it's a limit, not a target.

People should drive within their limits and capabilities of their vehicle.

Even a 20 year old Fiesta would outperform the figures used in the highway code"

.

Yeah but what about a 20 year old fiesta driven by a 70 year old?.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Strength and weakest point, sex bum, the Germans have the old driving too...

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