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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit "There's a difference between fit and healthy though! | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though! "I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.  | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy. "I don't think so either. It's massively obese. | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit "She could well be fitter than a slim person who does no exercise, smokes, binge drinks etc. I'm overweight. My blood pressure is perfect, my blood levels are perfect. My cardiovascular fitness is poor but that's down to doing no exercise. Yes, being overweight is hard on the joints but it does not necessarily equate to being unhealthy. The "it's so unhealthy" line, as though you give a damn about the person is a convenient cover for fat hating. Slim people can have high blood pressure, high cholesterol and all sorts of health problems. I don't see anyone "worrying" about their health. | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese. "I must admit at 27 stone your neither fit nor healthy, doing a dance does not make you fit, stick her in a show and see if she can last the duration or if she flags after a short while | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese. "It is an unhealthy weight for sure. Without knowing enough about her and what the tv programme is about though, does it matter? Is it going to be seen as encouraging people to put on weight to be like that? I'd suspect not. So if people who are already overweight feel encouraged to start dancing and do more exercise then that's a good thing. | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese.
It is an unhealthy weight for sure. Without knowing enough about her and what the tv programme is about though, does it matter? Is it going to be seen as encouraging people to put on weight to be like that? I'd suspect not. So if people who are already overweight feel encouraged to start dancing and do more exercise then that's a good thing. "Maybe, but she has given interviews saying her weight isn't a problem. I don't think extreme body types should be normalised and celebrated cos that's clearly not an okay weight. | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese.
It is an unhealthy weight for sure. Without knowing enough about her and what the tv programme is about though, does it matter? Is it going to be seen as encouraging people to put on weight to be like that? I'd suspect not. So if people who are already overweight feel encouraged to start dancing and do more exercise then that's a good thing. " | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy. "My thoughts exactly 
If she was say a stone over weight and claimed to be 'fit' I could believe that, but not at 27 stone lol | |||
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"Well good for her. I'm not saying that it's healthy to be extremely overweight, but it would be better for the world as a whole if overeight people feel less excluded from enjoyable forms of exercise like dancing and more able to take part. " Unfortunately i agree with you lol i need to get bk on my diet again as although im now embravin my body shape more due to fab ive noticed my knees n ankles hurtin again. Currently a size 14 so only one dress size n ill be healthyer again  | |||
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"As usual, a thread about a fat woman, even though it's about much she loves dancing and how great she is at it, instantly turns in to a thread about weight and "concerns" about her health. "its about accepting her size | |||
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"her confidence just oozes out of her,, love it! " and a very pretty woman too I wish I had half her confidence | |||
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its about accepting her size "I actually don't agree one should. Accept her, her dancing talent, her chutzpah, yes - whilst at the same time saying no, the weight may be her choice and she is entitled to make it, but it is not a wise one. | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese.
It is an unhealthy weight for sure. Without knowing enough about her and what the tv programme is about though, does it matter? Is it going to be seen as encouraging people to put on weight to be like that? I'd suspect not. So if people who are already overweight feel encouraged to start dancing and do more exercise then that's a good thing.
Maybe, but she has given interviews saying her weight isn't a problem. I don't think extreme body types should be normalised and celebrated cos that's clearly not an okay weight. "Agree with you to some extent but I don't think in reality anyone will go trying to increase their weight even if overweight becomes 'normalised'. However if she's promoting body confidence I don't think there's anything wrong with that. She has as much right to feel proud of what she does at 27 stone as at 17 stone or 7 stone. The flipside of the argument would be that she shouldn't be seen, should hide away in shame and to be honest it's that kind of message that means so many overweight people lack to confidence to take part in the very exercise that would be beneficial to their health. | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese.
It is an unhealthy weight for sure. Without knowing enough about her and what the tv programme is about though, does it matter? Is it going to be seen as encouraging people to put on weight to be like that? I'd suspect not. So if people who are already overweight feel encouraged to start dancing and do more exercise then that's a good thing.
Maybe, but she has given interviews saying her weight isn't a problem. I don't think extreme body types should be normalised and celebrated cos that's clearly not an okay weight. "pmsl That's every underweight female celebrity that should also not be interviewed or on television too then. Just admit it. It's basic fat hating. Fat people should be in sack cloth and ashes and shouldn't be allowed out where "normal" people can see us! We totally shouldn't be allowed to be part of society, or do anything we enjoy. This woman is active, exercising regularly and you're still slating her for it. You do realise you're putting less confident overweight women off doing exercise and joining groups they enjoy? What are we supposed to do? Sneak into darkened gyms late at night so as not to offend the "normal" people? We should be excluded until we've lost enough weight to deserve to be a part if society again? This woman is doing something she loves and she's being active. She's not letting her weight hold her back. She is FAR more likely to encourage larger women who feel embarrassed and excluded to exercise and do things they enjoy than any hating. | |||
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"As usual, a thread about a fat woman, even though it's about much she loves dancing and how great she is at it, instantly turns in to a thread about weight and "concerns" about her health.
its about accepting her size "Which see clearly does. It's not really anyone else's business. | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese.
It is an unhealthy weight for sure. Without knowing enough about her and what the tv programme is about though, does it matter? Is it going to be seen as encouraging people to put on weight to be like that? I'd suspect not. So if people who are already overweight feel encouraged to start dancing and do more exercise then that's a good thing.
Maybe, but she has given interviews saying her weight isn't a problem. I don't think extreme body types should be normalised and celebrated cos that's clearly not an okay weight.
Agree with you to some extent but I don't think in reality anyone will go trying to increase their weight even if overweight becomes 'normalised'.
However if she's promoting body confidence I don't think there's anything wrong with that. She has as much right to feel proud of what she does at 27 stone as at 17 stone or 7 stone. The flipside of the argument would be that she shouldn't be seen, should hide away in shame and to be honest it's that kind of message that means so many overweight people lack to confidence to take part in the very exercise that would be beneficial to their health. "Still don't think she's a good role model. She's not promoting healthier living and fitness (she lost weight and put it back on to be happier), she's saying it's okay to grossly overweight. I'm not saying she ought to be thin, I'm saying she shouldn't say it's okay and healthy to be 27 stone. | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese.
It is an unhealthy weight for sure. Without knowing enough about her and what the tv programme is about though, does it matter? Is it going to be seen as encouraging people to put on weight to be like that? I'd suspect not. So if people who are already overweight feel encouraged to start dancing and do more exercise then that's a good thing.
Maybe, but she has given interviews saying her weight isn't a problem. I don't think extreme body types should be normalised and celebrated cos that's clearly not an okay weight.
pmsl That's every underweight female celebrity that should also not be interviewed or on television too then.
Just admit it. It's basic fat hating. Fat people should be in sack cloth and ashes and shouldn't be allowed out where "normal" people can see us!
We totally shouldn't be allowed to be part of society, or do anything we enjoy.
This woman is active, exercising regularly and you're still slating her for it.
You do realise you're putting less confident overweight women off doing exercise and joining groups they enjoy?
What are we supposed to do? Sneak into darkened gyms late at night so as not to offend the "normal" people? We should be excluded until we've lost enough weight to deserve to be a part if society again?
This woman is doing something she loves and she's being active. She's not letting her weight hold her back. She is FAR more likely to encourage larger women who feel embarrassed and excluded to exercise and do things they enjoy than any hating.
"If someone is that easily swayed between wanting to exercise and deciding not to by just reading my comments, it's probably not me that's the problem. My point is a woman that lost 100lbs and put it back on to be happy AND gives interviews about it is not a good role model. It's fine if she wants to be 27 stone, but she shouldn't promote it as a happier and healthy way of living. | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese.
It is an unhealthy weight for sure. Without knowing enough about her and what the tv programme is about though, does it matter? Is it going to be seen as encouraging people to put on weight to be like that? I'd suspect not. So if people who are already overweight feel encouraged to start dancing and do more exercise then that's a good thing.
Maybe, but she has given interviews saying her weight isn't a problem. I don't think extreme body types should be normalised and celebrated cos that's clearly not an okay weight.
Agree with you to some extent but I don't think in reality anyone will go trying to increase their weight even if overweight becomes 'normalised'.
However if she's promoting body confidence I don't think there's anything wrong with that. She has as much right to feel proud of what she does at 27 stone as at 17 stone or 7 stone. The flipside of the argument would be that she shouldn't be seen, should hide away in shame and to be honest it's that kind of message that means so many overweight people lack to confidence to take part in the very exercise that would be beneficial to their health.
Still don't think she's a good role model. She's not promoting healthier living and fitness (she lost weight and put it back on to be happier), she's saying it's okay to grossly overweight. I'm not saying she ought to be thin, I'm saying she shouldn't say it's okay and healthy to be 27 stone. "She's promoting being happy, confident and doing what you enjoy, and ignoring the haters. The women portrayed in the media, airbrushed within an inch if their lives, and in Hollywood aren't usually a "normal" weight either. Do we see a thread on here about it every time a glossy magazine is published or a film is released? Nope, it's rarely the slim that are criticised, even if they are underweight and follow an extreme way of living to stay that way. | |||
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its about accepting her size
Which see clearly does. It's not really anyone else's business."I'd agree it isn't anyone else's business . . . if she didn't stick herself on YouTube and do TV interviews. | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese.
It is an unhealthy weight for sure. Without knowing enough about her and what the tv programme is about though, does it matter? Is it going to be seen as encouraging people to put on weight to be like that? I'd suspect not. So if people who are already overweight feel encouraged to start dancing and do more exercise then that's a good thing.
Maybe, but she has given interviews saying her weight isn't a problem. I don't think extreme body types should be normalised and celebrated cos that's clearly not an okay weight.
Agree with you to some extent but I don't think in reality anyone will go trying to increase their weight even if overweight becomes 'normalised'.
However if she's promoting body confidence I don't think there's anything wrong with that. She has as much right to feel proud of what she does at 27 stone as at 17 stone or 7 stone. The flipside of the argument would be that she shouldn't be seen, should hide away in shame and to be honest it's that kind of message that means so many overweight people lack to confidence to take part in the very exercise that would be beneficial to their health.
Still don't think she's a good role model. She's not promoting healthier living and fitness (she lost weight and put it back on to be happier), she's saying it's okay to grossly overweight. I'm not saying she ought to be thin, I'm saying she shouldn't say it's okay and healthy to be 27 stone.
She's promoting being happy, confident and doing what you enjoy, and ignoring the haters.
The women portrayed in the media, airbrushed within an inch if their lives, and in Hollywood aren't usually a "normal" weight either.
Do we see a thread on here about it every time a glossy magazine is published or a film is released?
Nope, it's rarely the slim that are criticised, even if they are underweight and follow an extreme way of living to stay that way."But size 0 is still a huge thing within the industry. It'd be completely different if she were just promoting being happy and confident, but she's not. She wouldn't capitalise on being a "fat girl" and intentionally gain weight if it were just about being happy with who she is. | |||
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"I wonder how many of you who are commenting have actually watched interviews with her or her programme? She's not encouraging people to be overweight or saying that she's happy with her weight, she has said she wants to lose weight. The whole point is that she's encouraging people to live their life to the full and not let their weight and other people's attitudes stop them. Great attitude to have because I'm certainly guilty of saying "when I lose weight I'll..." Before you know it, you get knocked down by a bus and you've missed your chance." Ah, but all that extra padding will increase your chances of survival after a collision with said bus  | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese.
It is an unhealthy weight for sure. Without knowing enough about her and what the tv programme is about though, does it matter? Is it going to be seen as encouraging people to put on weight to be like that? I'd suspect not. So if people who are already overweight feel encouraged to start dancing and do more exercise then that's a good thing.
Maybe, but she has given interviews saying her weight isn't a problem. I don't think extreme body types should be normalised and celebrated cos that's clearly not an okay weight.
pmsl That's every underweight female celebrity that should also not be interviewed or on television too then.
Just admit it. It's basic fat hating. Fat people should be in sack cloth and ashes and shouldn't be allowed out where "normal" people can see us!
We totally shouldn't be allowed to be part of society, or do anything we enjoy.
This woman is active, exercising regularly and you're still slating her for it.
You do realise you're putting less confident overweight women off doing exercise and joining groups they enjoy?
What are we supposed to do? Sneak into darkened gyms late at night so as not to offend the "normal" people? We should be excluded until we've lost enough weight to deserve to be a part if society again?
This woman is doing something she loves and she's being active. She's not letting her weight hold her back. She is FAR more likely to encourage larger women who feel embarrassed and excluded to exercise and do things they enjoy than any hating.
If someone is that easily swayed between wanting to exercise and deciding not to by just reading my comments, it's probably not me that's the problem.
My point is a woman that lost 100lbs and put it back on to be happy AND gives interviews about it is not a good role model. It's fine if she wants to be 27 stone, but she shouldn't promote it as a happier and healthy way of living. "I don't think she's promoting it as something someone else should do. She's not saying hey, gain 100 pounds and you'll be happy. She's saying I am big, I am happy and I'm confident and you should accept and live yourself too. You don't think it's a problem to potentially put larger women off exercising by being negative about it because if they're put off then they obviously have a problem? What?! 
A huge proportion of overweight women are too short in confidence to get started in trying to lose weight. YES they have a problem. They need encouragement, not negativity. If you can't be encouraging and supportive, at least try not to put anyone off. | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese.
It is an unhealthy weight for sure. Without knowing enough about her and what the tv programme is about though, does it matter? Is it going to be seen as encouraging people to put on weight to be like that? I'd suspect not. So if people who are already overweight feel encouraged to start dancing and do more exercise then that's a good thing.
Maybe, but she has given interviews saying her weight isn't a problem. I don't think extreme body types should be normalised and celebrated cos that's clearly not an okay weight.
Agree with you to some extent but I don't think in reality anyone will go trying to increase their weight even if overweight becomes 'normalised'.
However if she's promoting body confidence I don't think there's anything wrong with that. She has as much right to feel proud of what she does at 27 stone as at 17 stone or 7 stone. The flipside of the argument would be that she shouldn't be seen, should hide away in shame and to be honest it's that kind of message that means so many overweight people lack to confidence to take part in the very exercise that would be beneficial to their health.
Still don't think she's a good role model. She's not promoting healthier living and fitness (she lost weight and put it back on to be happier), she's saying it's okay to grossly overweight. I'm not saying she ought to be thin, I'm saying she shouldn't say it's okay and healthy to be 27 stone.
She's promoting being happy, confident and doing what you enjoy, and ignoring the haters.
The women portrayed in the media, airbrushed within an inch if their lives, and in Hollywood aren't usually a "normal" weight either.
Do we see a thread on here about it every time a glossy magazine is published or a film is released?
Nope, it's rarely the slim that are criticised, even if they are underweight and follow an extreme way of living to stay that way.
But size 0 is still a huge thing within the industry.
It'd be completely different if she were just promoting being happy and confident, but she's not. She wouldn't capitalise on being a "fat girl" and intentionally gain weight if it were just about being happy with who she is. "Show me the last thread on here started to hate size 0 women. | |||
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"I wonder how many of you who are commenting have actually watched interviews with her or her programme? She's not encouraging people to be overweight or saying that she's happy with her weight, she has said she wants to lose weight. The whole point is that she's encouraging people to live their life to the full and not let their weight and other people's attitudes stop them. Great attitude to have because I'm certainly guilty of saying "when I lose weight I'll..." Before you know it, you get knocked down by a bus and you've missed your chance." | |||
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"I think she is rather mesmerising I enjoyed watching her dance "In all seriousness I don't think she's all that. I've seen bigger women who are much better dancers. | |||
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"As usual, a thread about a fat woman, even though it's about much she loves dancing and how great she is at it, instantly turns in to a thread about weight and "concerns" about her health.
its about accepting her size
Which see clearly does. It's not really anyone else's business.
I'd agree it isn't anyone else's business . . . if she didn't stick herself on YouTube and do TV interviews."She's promoting confidence and living your life. If she wasn't also fat she'd be being praised, even though the message would be exactly the same. | |||
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"I wonder how many of you who are commenting have actually watched interviews with her or her programme? She's not encouraging people to be overweight or saying that she's happy with her weight, she has said she wants to lose weight. The whole point is that she's encouraging people to live their life to the full and not let their weight and other people's attitudes stop them. Great attitude to have because I'm certainly guilty of saying "when I lose weight I'll..." Before you know it, you get knocked down by a bus and you've missed your chance."
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"I think she is rather mesmerising I enjoyed watching her dance
In all seriousness I don't think she's all that. I've seen bigger women who are much better dancers."She looks like shes enjoying herself,thats what I like,Im not bothered that shes not technically perfect as a dancer I know im not myself | |||
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"I don't think she's promoting it as something someone else should do. She's not saying hey, gain 100 pounds and you'll be happy. She's saying I am big, I am happy and I'm confident and you should accept and live yourself too. You don't think it's a problem to potentially put larger women off exercising by being negative about it because if they're put off then they obviously have a problem? What?!
A huge proportion of overweight women are too short in confidence to get started in trying to lose weight. YES they have a problem. They need encouragement, not negativity. If you can't be encouraging and supportive, at least try not to put anyone off."No, I didn't say that. I said if someone is prepared to use my comments as an excuse to not exercise then it's probably not my comments that are the issue, it's more likely their lack of motivation and will. If she's not promoting obesity, why would she give interviews stating how unhappy her life was when she lost the weight and how she intentionally gained it back? It's as bad as Kate Moss saying nothing tastes as good as looking thing feels, just the inverse. | |||
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"As usual, a thread about a fat woman, even though it's about much she loves dancing and how great she is at it, instantly turns in to a thread about weight and "concerns" about her health.
its about accepting her size
Which see clearly does. It's not really anyone else's business.
I'd agree it isn't anyone else's business . . . if she didn't stick herself on YouTube and do TV interviews.
She's promoting confidence and living your life.
If she wasn't also fat she'd be being praised, even though the message would be exactly the same."If she wasn't also fat she wouldn't be getting/seeking the publicity. | |||
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"I think she is rather mesmerising I enjoyed watching her dance
In all seriousness I don't think she's all that. I've seen bigger women who are much better dancers.
She looks like shes enjoying herself,thats what I like,Im not bothered that shes not technically perfect as a dancer
I know im not myself " Next time you're at a wedding or any other event involving public dancing I want no ridiculing of the 'dad dancers', they also enjoy themselves. | |||
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"I think she is rather mesmerising I enjoyed watching her dance
In all seriousness I don't think she's all that. I've seen bigger women who are much better dancers.
She looks like shes enjoying herself,thats what I like,Im not bothered that shes not technically perfect as a dancer
I know im not myself
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"I don't think she's promoting it as something someone else should do. She's not saying hey, gain 100 pounds and you'll be happy. She's saying I am big, I am happy and I'm confident and you should accept and live yourself too. You don't think it's a problem to potentially put larger women off exercising by being negative about it because if they're put off then they obviously have a problem? What?!
A huge proportion of overweight women are too short in confidence to get started in trying to lose weight. YES they have a problem. They need encouragement, not negativity. If you can't be encouraging and supportive, at least try not to put anyone off.
No, I didn't say that. I said if someone is prepared to use my comments as an excuse to not exercise then it's probably not my comments that are the issue, it's more likely their lack of motivation and will.
If she's not promoting obesity, why would she give interviews stating how unhappy her life was when she lost the weight and how she intentionally gained it back? It's as bad as Kate Moss saying nothing tastes as good as looking thing feels, just the inverse. "Excuse? Oh FFS! If you make negative comments about exercising to a group of people already lacking in confidence, it's pretty obviously not going to help them. You could be doing something to support and empower these people, who you clearly think should change, to do so if they want to. But you'd rather be negative, potentially making people more self-conscious and uncomfortable and then say that's an excuse?!
It must be bloody lovely to be in a position to not be able to understand why people lacking in confidence might struggle with something and how being negative is going to make that worse.
As for not promoting health, her lifestyle is healthier than that of an overweight person who just sits at home and eats because they're miserable and feel excluded by society. | |||
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"As usual, a thread about a fat woman, even though it's about much she loves dancing and how great she is at it, instantly turns in to a thread about weight and "concerns" about her health.
its about accepting her size
Which see clearly does. It's not really anyone else's business.
I'd agree it isn't anyone else's business . . . if she didn't stick herself on YouTube and do TV interviews.
She's promoting confidence and living your life.
If she wasn't also fat she'd be being praised, even though the message would be exactly the same.
If she wasn't also fat she wouldn't be getting/seeking the publicity."You don't know that. | |||
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"As usual, a thread about a fat woman, even though it's about much she loves dancing and how great she is at it, instantly turns in to a thread about weight and "concerns" about her health.
its about accepting her size
Which see clearly does. It's not really anyone else's business.
I'd agree it isn't anyone else's business . . . if she didn't stick herself on YouTube and do TV interviews.
She's promoting confidence and living your life.
If she wasn't also fat she'd be being praised, even though the message would be exactly the same.
If she wasn't also fat she wouldn't be getting/seeking the publicity.
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"I don't think she's promoting it as something someone else should do. She's not saying hey, gain 100 pounds and you'll be happy. She's saying I am big, I am happy and I'm confident and you should accept and live yourself too. You don't think it's a problem to potentially put larger women off exercising by being negative about it because if they're put off then they obviously have a problem? What?!
A huge proportion of overweight women are too short in confidence to get started in trying to lose weight. YES they have a problem. They need encouragement, not negativity. If you can't be encouraging and supportive, at least try not to put anyone off.
No, I didn't say that. I said if someone is prepared to use my comments as an excuse to not exercise then it's probably not my comments that are the issue, it's more likely their lack of motivation and will.
If she's not promoting obesity, why would she give interviews stating how unhappy her life was when she lost the weight and how she intentionally gained it back? It's as bad as Kate Moss saying nothing tastes as good as looking thing feels, just the inverse.
Excuse?
Oh FFS!
If you make negative comments about exercising to a group of people already lacking in confidence, it's pretty obviously not going to help them.
You could be doing something to support and empower these people, who you clearly think should change, to do so if they want to. But you'd rather be negative, potentially making people more self-conscious and uncomfortable and then say that's an excuse?!
It must be bloody lovely to be in a position to not be able to understand why people lacking in confidence might struggle with something and how being negative is going to make that worse.
As for not promoting health, her lifestyle is healthier than that of an overweight person who just sits at home and eats because they're miserable and feel excluded by society."You keep saying I'm saying larger people shouldn't exercise, which is the opposite of what I'm saying. I'm saying that that woman should not say it's better and healthy being 27 stone. If someone is going to use that as an excuse to not lose weight, then it's not about lack of confidence or being embarrassed. Being healthier than a sedentary 27 stone person is still not being healthy. I don't know why anyone wouldn't take precautions to prolong their life and health when it's a choice. It's simply not an okay weight. | |||
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"As usual, a thread about a fat woman, even though it's about much she loves dancing and how great she is at it, instantly turns in to a thread about weight and "concerns" about her health.
its about accepting her size
Which see clearly does. It's not really anyone else's business.
I'd agree it isn't anyone else's business . . . if she didn't stick herself on YouTube and do TV interviews.
She's promoting confidence and living your life.
If she wasn't also fat she'd be being praised, even though the message would be exactly the same.
If she wasn't also fat she wouldn't be getting/seeking the publicity.
You don't know that.
Oh please..."You don't. She could equally well be leading a campaign to encourage people to live their lives to the fullest without being fat. Plenty of slim/average people run campaigns and publicise subjects. It's a big assumption she wouldn't still be successfully promoting self confidence even if she weren't overweight. | |||
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"Unreal. I guess it goes to show fat women can't do anything right and should simply be shot. It's amusing though that there are smokers on here that seem to think they have room to make negative comments about her health and lifestyle! I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of those smokers are less active than she is. But it's ok because they're not fat." No one is suggesting culling fat people. | |||
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"surely if she carries on dancing to that level of intensity she is bound to lose weight providing her calorie intake is of a healthy limit " Clearly her calorie intake is not at a healthy limit, that is the paradox. | |||
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"I don't think she's promoting it as something someone else should do. She's not saying hey, gain 100 pounds and you'll be happy. She's saying I am big, I am happy and I'm confident and you should accept and live yourself too. You don't think it's a problem to potentially put larger women off exercising by being negative about it because if they're put off then they obviously have a problem? What?!
A huge proportion of overweight women are too short in confidence to get started in trying to lose weight. YES they have a problem. They need encouragement, not negativity. If you can't be encouraging and supportive, at least try not to put anyone off.
No, I didn't say that. I said if someone is prepared to use my comments as an excuse to not exercise then it's probably not my comments that are the issue, it's more likely their lack of motivation and will.
If she's not promoting obesity, why would she give interviews stating how unhappy her life was when she lost the weight and how she intentionally gained it back? It's as bad as Kate Moss saying nothing tastes as good as looking thing feels, just the inverse.
Excuse?
Oh FFS!
If you make negative comments about exercising to a group of people already lacking in confidence, it's pretty obviously not going to help them.
You could be doing something to support and empower these people, who you clearly think should change, to do so if they want to. But you'd rather be negative, potentially making people more self-conscious and uncomfortable and then say that's an excuse?!
It must be bloody lovely to be in a position to not be able to understand why people lacking in confidence might struggle with something and how being negative is going to make that worse.
As for not promoting health, her lifestyle is healthier than that of an overweight person who just sits at home and eats because they're miserable and feel excluded by society.
You keep saying I'm saying larger people shouldn't exercise, which is the opposite of what I'm saying. I'm saying that that woman should not say it's better and healthy being 27 stone. If someone is going to use that as an excuse to not lose weight, then it's not about lack of confidence or being embarrassed.
Being healthier than a sedentary 27 stone person is still not being healthy. I don't know why anyone wouldn't take precautions to prolong their life and health when it's a choice. It's simply not an okay weight. "No, I am not saying you're telling overweight people not to exercise; I'm saying your comments about them not being ok may well discourage them from starting by increasing their self-consciousness and embarrassment and reducing their confidence. She is encouraging people to be confident (not fat) and to live their lives. That might encourage people to exercise. Telling them their weight isn't ok, and making them feel judged before they've even started, won't encourage them at all and may actually discourage. | |||
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"As usual, a thread about a fat woman, even though it's about much she loves dancing and how great she is at it, instantly turns in to a thread about weight and "concerns" about her health.
its about accepting her size
Which see clearly does. It's not really anyone else's business.
I'd agree it isn't anyone else's business . . . if she didn't stick herself on YouTube and do TV interviews.
She's promoting confidence and living your life.
If she wasn't also fat she'd be being praised, even though the message would be exactly the same.
If she wasn't also fat she wouldn't be getting/seeking the publicity.
You don't know that.
Oh please...
You don't. She could equally well be leading a campaign to encourage people to live their lives to the fullest without being fat.
Plenty of slim/average people run campaigns and publicise subjects.
It's a big assumption she wouldn't still be successfully promoting self confidence even if she weren't overweight."Okay, I'll concede she may well have still sought publicity if she wasn't vastly overweight but you can surely admit that the amount of publicity she is currently receiving is purely down to her size? | |||
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"Fucking hell give the girl a break she is doing something that she clearly enjoys and wants to show the world that. There is so much unnecessary negative attitude towards overweight people. If people think that make fun and belittling those are that are overweight are helping the cause then you will be very much mistaken. " | |||
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"As usual, a thread about a fat woman, even though it's about much she loves dancing and how great she is at it, instantly turns in to a thread about weight and "concerns" about her health.
its about accepting her size
Which see clearly does. It's not really anyone else's business.
I'd agree it isn't anyone else's business . . . if she didn't stick herself on YouTube and do TV interviews.
She's promoting confidence and living your life.
If she wasn't also fat she'd be being praised, even though the message would be exactly the same.
If she wasn't also fat she wouldn't be getting/seeking the publicity.
You don't know that.
Oh please...
You don't. She could equally well be leading a campaign to encourage people to live their lives to the fullest without being fat.
Plenty of slim/average people run campaigns and publicise subjects.
It's a big assumption she wouldn't still be successfully promoting self confidence even if she weren't overweight.
Okay, I'll concede she may well have still sought publicity if she wasn't vastly overweight but you can surely admit that the amount of publicity she is currently receiving is purely down to her size?"No because I don't have access to alternate realities to know how things would have turned out in different circumstances. And nor do you. | |||
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"Unreal. I guess it goes to show fat women can't do anything right and should simply be shot. It's amusing though that there are smokers on here that seem to think they have room to make negative comments about her health and lifestyle! I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of those smokers are less active than she is. But it's ok because they're not fat. No one is suggesting culling fat people. You may as well because it's clear whatever we do, we're wrong." That's being overly dramatic, isn't it? I've repeated my issue with Whitney Thore several times but you seem to think I hate all fat people when that just isn't the case. | |||
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". I don't know why anyone wouldn't take precautions to prolong their life and health when it's a choice. Do you apply this comment to smokers too? Yes, and drinking. However, my smoking has less of an impact on my body than my commute due to how rarely I smoke. " But it's still something unhealthy that you do, knowing it is damaging your health and probably shortening your life. Hypocritical much? | |||
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"Unreal. I guess it goes to show fat women can't do anything right and should simply be shot. It's amusing though that there are smokers on here that seem to think they have room to make negative comments about her health and lifestyle! I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of those smokers are less active than she is. But it's ok because they're not fat. No one is suggesting culling fat people. You may as well because it's clear whatever we do, we're wrong. That's being overly dramatic, isn't it? I've repeated my issue with Whitney Thore several times but you seem to think I hate all fat people when that just isn't the case. " I don't know if you hate fat people but you're certainly not doing anything to help them feel better about themselves, or empowered to change if they want to. You certainly sound like you hate fat people. You've condemned regarding extremes of weight as normal but only the heavy extremes, not the underweight extremes. | |||
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"speaking as a very large person myself she must be fit to be able to do that level of exercise at her current weight. " I concur | |||
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"As usual, a thread about a fat woman, even though it's about much she loves dancing and how great she is at it, instantly turns in to a thread about weight and "concerns" about her health.
its about accepting her size
Which see clearly does. It's not really anyone else's business.
I'd agree it isn't anyone else's business . . . if she didn't stick herself on YouTube and do TV interviews.
She's promoting confidence and living your life.
If she wasn't also fat she'd be being praised, even though the message would be exactly the same.
If she wasn't also fat she wouldn't be getting/seeking the publicity.
You don't know that.
Oh please...
You don't. She could equally well be leading a campaign to encourage people to live their lives to the fullest without being fat.
Plenty of slim/average people run campaigns and publicise subjects.
It's a big assumption she wouldn't still be successfully promoting self confidence even if she weren't overweight.
Okay, I'll concede she may well have still sought publicity if she wasn't vastly overweight but you can surely admit that the amount of publicity she is currently receiving is purely down to her size?
No because I don't have access to alternate realities to know how things would have turned out in different circumstances. And nor do you."You know, I have you down as one the more intelligent forumites, always ready with a reasoned, well thought out argument, something I've respected whether I agree with your point of view or not. However, I've noticed that issues of weight appear to be your kryptonite. | |||
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"Unreal. I guess it goes to show fat women can't do anything right and should simply be shot. It's amusing though that there are smokers on here that seem to think they have room to make negative comments about her health and lifestyle! I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of those smokers are less active than she is. But it's ok because they're not fat. No one is suggesting culling fat people. You may as well because it's clear whatever we do, we're wrong. That's being overly dramatic, isn't it? I've repeated my issue with Whitney Thore several times but you seem to think I hate all fat people when that just isn't the case. I don't know if you hate fat people but you're certainly not doing anything to help them feel better about themselves, or empowered to change if they want to. You certainly sound like you hate fat people. You've condemned regarding extremes of weight as normal but only the heavy extremes, not the underweight extremes." You must've missed it when I referenced Kate Moss then. But to clarify, no - I don't hate fat people. Ridiculous. | |||
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". I don't know why anyone wouldn't take precautions to prolong their life and health when it's a choice. Do you apply this comment to smokers too? Yes, and drinking. However, my smoking has less of an impact on my body than my commute due to how rarely I smoke. But it's still something unhealthy that you do, knowing it is damaging your health and probably shortening your life. Hypocritical much? Not really, I'm not giving interviews stating how much better my life is as a smoker or how unhappy I am when I go months without a cigarette. " She's not encouraging anyone to be overweight though. And your comment didn't mention being interviewed. You said you don't know why anyone would choose to knowingly damage their health and shorten their life. Yet you do. So yes, totally hypocritical. | |||
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"As usual, a thread about a fat woman, even though it's about much she loves dancing and how great she is at it, instantly turns in to a thread about weight and "concerns" about her health.
its about accepting her size
Which see clearly does. It's not really anyone else's business.
I'd agree it isn't anyone else's business . . . if she didn't stick herself on YouTube and do TV interviews.
She's promoting confidence and living your life.
If she wasn't also fat she'd be being praised, even though the message would be exactly the same.
If she wasn't also fat she wouldn't be getting/seeking the publicity.
You don't know that.
Oh please...
You don't. She could equally well be leading a campaign to encourage people to live their lives to the fullest without being fat.
Plenty of slim/average people run campaigns and publicise subjects.
It's a big assumption she wouldn't still be successfully promoting self confidence even if she weren't overweight.
Okay, I'll concede she may well have still sought publicity if she wasn't vastly overweight but you can surely admit that the amount of publicity she is currently receiving is purely down to her size?
No because I don't have access to alternate realities to know how things would have turned out in different circumstances. And nor do you.
You know, I have you down as one the more intelligent forumites, always ready with a reasoned, well thought out argument, something I've respected whether I agree with your point of view or not.
However, I've noticed that issues of weight appear to be your kryptonite."And? So are you trying to tell me that you do actually have a crystal ball and can tell us for certain how things would be if she weren't fat? Of course you can't. For all you know, if not fat she could be a celebrity dancer leading a national campaign to promote self-confidence and making the most of life. | |||
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"Fucking hell give the girl a break she is doing something that she clearly enjoys and wants to show the world that. There is so much unnecessary negative attitude towards overweight people. If people think that make fun and belittling those are that are overweight are helping the cause then you will be very much mistaken. "
However I've just watched the muffin top video and tbh the dancing was nothing special and no better than any other of a similar ilk no matter what the size of the dancer
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"As usual, a thread about a fat woman, even though it's about much she loves dancing and how great she is at it, instantly turns in to a thread about weight and "concerns" about her health.
its about accepting her size
I actually don't agree one should. Accept her, her dancing talent, her chutzpah, yes - whilst at the same time saying no, the weight may be her choice and she is entitled to make it, but it is not a wise one."Not read the whole thread so someone else could have put the comment i'm about to put on here. Saw her on ITV good morning Britain or Lorraine - one or the other! She was normal and healthy until her teens then got some illness (of the thyroid I think) that caused her to put a huge amount of weight on very quickly! Her weight is not lifestyle related. She hid away, frightened of ridicule, then was persuaded to just 'go for it' and do the things she did before she gained weight! Fortunately the outcome has been very positive and she's effectively 'got her life back'! She came across as a very lovely young woman! Xxx | |||
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4265600.stm"Thanks, but I don't smoke daily, I sometimes go weeks without. I put smoker as I sometimes will smoke. | |||
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4265600.stm
Thanks, but I don't smoke daily, I sometimes go weeks without. I put smoker as I sometimes will smoke. "You telling people how to prolong their life by making life changes while saying you wont be making changes that would prolong your life even though yours is as unhealthy as the one discussed is double standards at its best. You can probably understand why your comments now look very weak. | |||
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"You can't be fat in this day and age it's not acceptable in today's society. You get the likes of katie Hopkins stating she would never hire fat people and in fashion magazines you see slim women modelling clothes. You get the odd media storm when they have the first plus size swimwear model in a high end magazine. As a survivor of an eating disorder which pretty much consumed me for many years after being the victim of bullying I can't digest why there is so much negativity and with that there is a rise in cases of eating disorders etc. people will never begin to imagine the effect of nasty vile remarks will have on people who are overweight unless you have been overweight yourself. It's taken me years to being fully acceptable of myself and I can truely say I love myself. I beg no one to have to endure drinking salt water and taking laxatives and with your head down the toilet to look how society should perceive them to be. Just think about what you say to someone because one comment can literally tip them over the edge. " | |||
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4265600.stm
Thanks, but I don't smoke daily, I sometimes go weeks without. I put smoker as I sometimes will smoke.
You telling people how to prolong their life by making life changes while saying you wont be making changes that would prolong your life even though yours is as unhealthy as the one discussed is double standards at its best.
You can probably understand why your comments now look very weak. "But it's really not a double standard, I'm not saying smoking is healthy whereas the lady in the videos is saying 27 stone is an okay and healthy weight. It's absurd. | |||
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4265600.stm
Thanks, but I don't smoke daily, I sometimes go weeks without. I put smoker as I sometimes will smoke.
You telling people how to prolong their life by making life changes while saying you wont be making changes that would prolong your life even though yours is as unhealthy as the one discussed is double standards at its best.
You can probably understand why your comments now look very weak.
But it's really not a double standard, I'm not saying smoking is healthy whereas the lady in the videos is saying 27 stone is an okay and healthy weight. It's absurd. "You also said you don't understand why someone wouldn't act to improve their health when they had the choice. Yet you don't. That is a double standard. And again, she's not encouraging anyone else to gain weight. She's saying she is ok with herself and is healthy. | |||
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4265600.stm
Thanks, but I don't smoke daily, I sometimes go weeks without. I put smoker as I sometimes will smoke.
You telling people how to prolong their life by making life changes while saying you wont be making changes that would prolong your life even though yours is as unhealthy as the one discussed is double standards at its best.
You can probably understand why your comments now look very weak.
But it's really not a double standard, I'm not saying smoking is healthy whereas the lady in the videos is saying 27 stone is an okay and healthy weight. It's absurd. "No, but you did say "I don't know why anyone wouldn't take precautions to prolong their life and health when it's a choice. " But you don't apply that to yourself? | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese.
It is an unhealthy weight for sure. Without knowing enough about her and what the tv programme is about though, does it matter? Is it going to be seen as encouraging people to put on weight to be like that? I'd suspect not. So if people who are already overweight feel encouraged to start dancing and do more exercise then that's a good thing.
Maybe, but she has given interviews saying her weight isn't a problem. I don't think extreme body types should be normalised and celebrated cos that's clearly not an okay weight.
Agree with you to some extent but I don't think in reality anyone will go trying to increase their weight even if overweight becomes 'normalised'.
However if she's promoting body confidence I don't think there's anything wrong with that. She has as much right to feel proud of what she does at 27 stone as at 17 stone or 7 stone. The flipside of the argument would be that she shouldn't be seen, should hide away in shame and to be honest it's that kind of message that means so many overweight people lack to confidence to take part in the very exercise that would be beneficial to their health.
Still don't think she's a good role model. She's not promoting healthier living and fitness (she lost weight and put it back on to be happier), she's saying it's okay to grossly overweight. I'm not saying she ought to be thin, I'm saying she shouldn't say it's okay and healthy to be 27 stone.
She's promoting being happy, confident and doing what you enjoy, and ignoring the haters.
The women portrayed in the media, airbrushed within an inch if their lives, and in Hollywood aren't usually a "normal" weight either.
Do we see a thread on here about it every time a glossy magazine is published or a film is released?
Nope, it's rarely the slim that are criticised, even if they are underweight and follow an extreme way of living to stay that way."What about all the threads where fat women are hailed to be 'real women' and bang on about men only liking women with 'curves' while slating thin women as being 'bags of bones'...it's all swings and roundabouts, some threads you will like because they are saying something positive about your size and others you wont like because of negativity about it, personally, I cannot abide anything that results in women sniping at each other like this....we ALL have attributes and imperfections, live for who you are and not what others may think of you. | |||
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its about accepting her size
Which see clearly does. It's not really anyone else's business.
I'd agree it isn't anyone else's business . . . if she didn't stick herself on YouTube and do TV interviews.
She's promoting confidence and living your life.
If she wasn't also fat she'd be being praised, even though the message would be exactly the same.
If she wasn't also fat she wouldn't be getting/seeking the publicity.
You don't know that.
Oh please...
You don't. She could equally well be leading a campaign to encourage people to live their lives to the fullest without being fat.
Plenty of slim/average people run campaigns and publicise subjects.
It's a big assumption she wouldn't still be successfully promoting self confidence even if she weren't overweight.
Okay, I'll concede she may well have still sought publicity if she wasn't vastly overweight but you can surely admit that the amount of publicity she is currently receiving is purely down to her size?
No because I don't have access to alternate realities to know how things would have turned out in different circumstances. And nor do you.
You know, I have you down as one the more intelligent forumites, always ready with a reasoned, well thought out argument, something I've respected whether I agree with your point of view or not.
However, I've noticed that issues of weight appear to be your kryptonite.
And?
So are you trying to tell me that you do actually have a crystal ball and can tell us for certain how things would be if she weren't fat?
Of course you can't.
For all you know, if not fat she could be a celebrity dancer leading a national campaign to promote self-confidence and making the most of life."Okay, Virago, I'll resist the urge to apply your crystal ball comment to your last paragraph and reiterate my point in responding to you in the first place: She made her weight and activities other people's business by uploading to YouTube and doing TV interviews. If you can honestly, hand on heart, say you believe she would be getting the publicity she is at present receiving if she wasn't grossly overweight then you are at best, naive, at worst, deluded. I'll leave you to have the final say... | |||
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Thanks, but I don't smoke daily, I sometimes go weeks without. I put smoker as I sometimes will smoke.
You telling people how to prolong their life by making life changes while saying you wont be making changes that would prolong your life even though yours is as unhealthy as the one discussed is double standards at its best.
You can probably understand why your comments now look very weak.
But it's really not a double standard, I'm not saying smoking is healthy whereas the lady in the videos is saying 27 stone is an okay and healthy weight. It's absurd.
You also said you don't understand why someone wouldn't act to improve their health when they had the choice. Yet you don't. That is a double standard.
And again, she's not encouraging anyone else to gain weight. She's saying she is ok with herself and is healthy."She has promoted gaining weight by saying life is depressing when she loses it and that she is much happier at 27 stone. Everytime she says it in an interview, it's an advertisement. | |||
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese.
It is an unhealthy weight for sure. Without knowing enough about her and what the tv programme is about though, does it matter? Is it going to be seen as encouraging people to put on weight to be like that? I'd suspect not. So if people who are already overweight feel encouraged to start dancing and do more exercise then that's a good thing.
Maybe, but she has given interviews saying her weight isn't a problem. I don't think extreme body types should be normalised and celebrated cos that's clearly not an okay weight.
pmsl That's every underweight female celebrity that should also not be interviewed or on television too then.
Just admit it. It's basic fat hating. Fat people should be in sack cloth and ashes and shouldn't be allowed out where "normal" people can see us!
We totally shouldn't be allowed to be part of society, or do anything we enjoy.
This woman is active, exercising regularly and you're still slating her for it.
You do realise you're putting less confident overweight women off doing exercise and joining groups they enjoy?
What are we supposed to do? Sneak into darkened gyms late at night so as not to offend the "normal" people? We should be excluded until we've lost enough weight to deserve to be a part if society again?
This woman is doing something she loves and she's being active. She's not letting her weight hold her back. She is FAR more likely to encourage larger women who feel embarrassed and excluded to exercise and do things they enjoy than any hating.
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"she says shes fit and must say she sure can move at 27 stone I'd say she's far from fit
There's a difference between fit and healthy though!
I don't believe you can truly be either at that weight, it is not healthy.
I don't think so either. It's massively obese.
It is an unhealthy weight for sure. Without knowing enough about her and what the tv programme is about though, does it matter? Is it going to be seen as encouraging people to put on weight to be like that? I'd suspect not. So if people who are already overweight feel encouraged to start dancing and do more exercise then that's a good thing.
Maybe, but she has given interviews saying her weight isn't a problem. I don't think extreme body types should be normalised and celebrated cos that's clearly not an okay weight.
Agree with you to some extent but I don't think in reality anyone will go trying to increase their weight even if overweight becomes 'normalised'.
However if she's promoting body confidence I don't think there's anything wrong with that. She has as much right to feel proud of what she does at 27 stone as at 17 stone or 7 stone. The flipside of the argument would be that she shouldn't be seen, should hide away in shame and to be honest it's that kind of message that means so many overweight people lack to confidence to take part in the very exercise that would be beneficial to their health.
Still don't think she's a good role model. She's not promoting healthier living and fitness (she lost weight and put it back on to be happier), she's saying it's okay to grossly overweight. I'm not saying she ought to be thin, I'm saying she shouldn't say it's okay and healthy to be 27 stone.
She's promoting being happy, confident and doing what you enjoy, and ignoring the haters.
The women portrayed in the media, airbrushed within an inch if their lives, and in Hollywood aren't usually a "normal" weight either.
Do we see a thread on here about it every time a glossy magazine is published or a film is released?
Nope, it's rarely the slim that are criticised, even if they are underweight and follow an extreme way of living to stay that way.
What about all the threads where fat women are hailed to be 'real women' and bang on about men only liking women with 'curves' while slating thin women as being 'bags of bones'...it's all swings and roundabouts, some threads you will like because they are saying something positive about your size and others you wont like because of negativity about it, personally, I cannot abide anything that results in women sniping at each other like this....we ALL have attributes and imperfections, live for who you are and not what others may think of you. "Show me one thread that starts off singling out underweight women and saying it's unhealthy. Personally, I don't like to see anyone insulted for how they look. I agree bag of bones comments are equally unwarranted. They're usually in response to fat hating comments though, or trotted out by men who think saying it will win points and get them laid. I don't recall ever seeing a thread on here starting out to say being underweight is revolting and unhealthy. Or even just unhealthy. But of course, it's the _health_ of the fatties everyone is concerned with. | |||
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"Its quite simple ! Live your life how you want it As long as you are happy, as long as you achieving what you want. Dont live it with regrets. No ones else knows your circumstances no one else should judge " | |||
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"the odd fag is hardly comparable to being seriously overweight. one is an occasional indulgence, the other is a condition that will affect that persons life every single day. but the talk about fat hating is slightly hysterical + comes over as self loathing. dont be so hard on yourself- we've all got problems " Interesting. Where'd you get your medical degree? How many studies have you conducted and with how many subjects? How many peer reviewed papers have you written? You *think* the occasional fag is less of a health problem than being overweight but it's an opinion, not a fact. The fact here is that most people on this thread lecturing about health and judging on size, thinking they have the right to do do because they aren't obese, also have unhealthy habits. Totally hypocritical. | |||
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"As usual, a thread about a fat woman, even though it's about much she loves dancing and how great she is at it, instantly turns in to a thread about weight and "concerns" about her health.
its about accepting her size
Which see clearly does. It's not really anyone else's business.
I'd agree it isn't anyone else's business . . . if she didn't stick herself on YouTube and do TV interviews.
She's promoting confidence and living your life.
If she wasn't also fat she'd be being praised, even though the message would be exactly the same.
If she wasn't also fat she wouldn't be getting/seeking the publicity.
You don't know that.
Oh please...
You don't. She could equally well be leading a campaign to encourage people to live their lives to the fullest without being fat.
Plenty of slim/average people run campaigns and publicise subjects.
It's a big assumption she wouldn't still be successfully promoting self confidence even if she weren't overweight.
Okay, I'll concede she may well have still sought publicity if she wasn't vastly overweight but you can surely admit that the amount of publicity she is currently receiving is purely down to her size?
No because I don't have access to alternate realities to know how things would have turned out in different circumstances. And nor do you.
You know, I have you down as one the more intelligent forumites, always ready with a reasoned, well thought out argument, something I've respected whether I agree with your point of view or not.
However, I've noticed that issues of weight appear to be your kryptonite.
And?
So are you trying to tell me that you do actually have a crystal ball and can tell us for certain how things would be if she weren't fat?
Of course you can't.
For all you know, if not fat she could be a celebrity dancer leading a national campaign to promote self-confidence and making the most of life.
Okay, Virago, I'll resist the urge to apply your crystal ball comment to your last paragraph and reiterate my point in responding to you in the first place:
She made her weight and activities other people's business by uploading to YouTube and doing TV interviews.
If you can honestly, hand on heart, say you believe she would be getting the publicity she is at present receiving if she wasn't grossly overweight then you are at best, naive, at worst, deluded.
I'll leave you to have the final say..."Ok, I will. I didn't need a crystal ball because my example is a possibility. I'm not trying to claim it as fact. Whereas saying she wouldn't be doing this or getting this publicity if she weren't fat is a statement, made as if it's fact. It's what you believe but you can't know. You believe I'm deluded because it fits your agenda. That's fine, believe what you like but don't go declaring beliefs you can't prove as fact. You can't possibly know how things would be if circumstances were different. | |||
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". I don't know why anyone wouldn't take precautions to prolong their life and health when it's a choice. Do you apply this comment to smokers too? Yes, and drinking. However, my smoking has less of an impact on my body than my commute due to how rarely I smoke. lol ok I found something you might like to know
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4265600.stm
Thanks, but I don't smoke daily, I sometimes go weeks without. I put smoker as I sometimes will smoke.
You telling people how to prolong their life by making life changes while saying you wont be making changes that would prolong your life even though yours is as unhealthy as the one discussed is double standards at its best.
You can probably understand why your comments now look very weak.
But it's really not a double standard, I'm not saying smoking is healthy whereas the lady in the videos is saying 27 stone is an okay and healthy weight. It's absurd.
You also said you don't understand why someone wouldn't act to improve their health when they had the choice. Yet you don't. That is a double standard.
And again, she's not encouraging anyone else to gain weight. She's saying she is ok with herself and is healthy.
She has promoted gaining weight by saying life is depressing when she loses it and that she is much happier at 27 stone. Everytime she says it in an interview, it's an advertisement."No she hasn't. She's encouraging people to do what makes them happy and accept themselves. She's not saying I'm happy at 27 stone so you should totally put on weight and you'll be happy too. No way will anyone be encouraged to gain weight by this. They may be encouraged to accept themselves and find the confidence to enjoy life. Through that they are far more likely to be empowered to, and able to, change than if they were stuck on the sofa feeling miserable and hating themselves. That can only be a good thing. | |||
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"So many hypocrits posting on here it's hilarious!. I bet half haven't watched what she says yet feel compelled to stick two pennies in. She is promoting being yourself living your life they way you choose. She isn't saying she sits on the sofa all day eating McDonald's. And by way of dance she is exercising the way she chooses not the way most are told to in the gym!. How do you know she isn't healthy a lot of assumptions her being 27 stone is she is dead unhealthy sits eating pies all day, when infact she could have a balanced diet. She said depression did cause some of it and many people struggle with weight related depression. As a previous poster said there could be medical conditions which also could be a cause for her being large, but then no doubt some on here would say it's all in her mind. Just to clear something else up! Smoking is far more dangerous than being over weight! Regardless of only having a few fags now and then it's still one of the biggest reasons people are treated within the NHS with obesity being the second. I applaud this girl she's doing what she wants by dancing (and boy can she move) and living her life the way she wants." well said she did say she had polycystic ovaries | |||
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"So many hypocrits posting on here it's hilarious!. I bet half haven't watched what she says yet feel compelled to stick two pennies in. She is promoting being yourself living your life they way you choose. She isn't saying she sits on the sofa all day eating McDonald's. And by way of dance she is exercising the way she chooses not the way most are told to in the gym!. How do you know she isn't healthy a lot of assumptions her being 27 stone is she is dead unhealthy sits eating pies all day, when infact she could have a balanced diet. She said depression did cause some of it and many people struggle with weight related depression. As a previous poster said there could be medical conditions which also could be a cause for her being large, but then no doubt some on here would say it's all in her mind. Just to clear something else up! Smoking is far more dangerous than being over weight! Regardless of only having a few fags now and then it's still one of the biggest reasons people are treated within the NHS with obesity being the second. I applaud this girl she's doing what she wants by dancing (and boy can she move) and living her life the way she wants. well said she did say she had polycystic ovaries" Thats a condition i suffer terribly with and also i have hypothyroidism so know where she's coming from. Some posters on here will never understand the mental torcher both conditions can cause, they will just carry on bashing as they don't have any real knowlage and it's so much easier to remain ignorant to it. It's not at all easy to loose weight and if she chose not to dance chances are she could be a lot bigger. | |||
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"she should do a keep fit video cos I for one want someone to show how to do it when you are bigger as some exercises would be impossible" she was a dancer when younger and say she is very flexible . So maybe that all help her . Yes after this on tv and the net maybe a video next . | |||
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"Wonders why with all the dancing and she has been doing a while, why she's not toned or lost some weight "Exercise, certainly exercise alone is not the only key to weight loss - it is so much more complex! It has only recently been recognised for example that it is not fat that makes people fat, it is more down to the excessive consumption of the (wrong) carbohydrates. Mind you that is another story altogether... | |||
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How much "protein" have you been swallowing. I mean consuming. "I don't swallow much it's great for facials hence why I don't look my age lol | |||
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"Unreal. I guess it goes to show fat women can't do anything right and should simply be shot. It's amusing though that there are smokers on here that seem to think they have room to make negative comments about her health and lifestyle! I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of those smokers are less active than she is. But it's ok because they're not fat." I was thinking oh the irony. A group of people who fuck strangers for a hobby taking the moral high ground about some fat bird's unhealthy lifestyle...  ...right! | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out" at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat" See there's having an opinion and there's just being rude | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat See there's having an opinion and there's just being rude " Yea that is rude,,but wow she seriously needs to lose wieght | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat" That's ok, this one isn't into you either. You don't want to do anybody any harm? Charming? Yeah, right! | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat See there's having an opinion and there's just being rude Yea that is rude,,but wow she seriously needs to lose wieght" No she doesn't. Not if she doesn't want to. I'm sure she knows the limitations and drawbacks of being that weight and it's her choice to make. | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat See there's having an opinion and there's just being rude Yea that is rude,,but wow she seriously needs to lose wieght No she doesn't. Not if she doesn't want to. I'm sure she knows the limitations and drawbacks of being that weight and it's her choice to make." There is a difference between needing to and wanting to She may not want to loose weight and that's fine its her body she can do what she likes with it, but from a health and medical point of view she really needs to She isn't fit at all, I was watching her on youtube she did a dance that lasted less than three minutes and after she was bent over with her hands on her knees gasping for breath, not being able to hold a conversation after less than three minutes of moderate exercise is not a good sigh | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat See there's having an opinion and there's just being rude Yea that is rude,,but wow she seriously needs to lose wieght No she doesn't. Not if she doesn't want to. I'm sure she knows the limitations and drawbacks of being that weight and it's her choice to make." its my opinion,,i think she would be healthier n happier. | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat See there's having an opinion and there's just being rude Yea that is rude,,but wow she seriously needs to lose wieght No she doesn't. Not if she doesn't want to. I'm sure she knows the limitations and drawbacks of being that weight and it's her choice to make. There is a difference between needing to and wanting to She may not want to loose weight and that's fine its her body she can do what she likes with it, but from a health and medical point of view she really needs to She isn't fit at all, I was watching her on youtube she did a dance that lasted less than three minutes and after she was bent over with her hands on her knees gasping for breath, not being able to hold a conversation after less than three minutes of moderate exercise is not a good sigh " ha,,point well made | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat See there's having an opinion and there's just being rude Yea that is rude,,but wow she seriously needs to lose wieght No she doesn't. Not if she doesn't want to. I'm sure she knows the limitations and drawbacks of being that weight and it's her choice to make. There is a difference between needing to and wanting to She may not want to loose weight and that's fine its her body she can do what she likes with it, but from a health and medical point of view she really needs to She isn't fit at all, I was watching her on youtube she did a dance that lasted less than three minutes and after she was bent over with her hands on her knees gasping for breath, not being able to hold a conversation after less than three minutes of moderate exercise is not a good sigh " It's up to her, if she doesn't want to change, she doesn't need to. If she wants to weigh less she needs to lose weight, but if she accepts the limitations and risks of her weight, it's not up to anyone else to decide what she needs. | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat See there's having an opinion and there's just being rude Yea that is rude,,but wow she seriously needs to lose wieght" Im sorry I guess I could have worded it better, should I say I prefer petite females, apologies again I guess David Cameron is not that much into overweight people on benefits as he intends to cut benefits till they loose weight, have you heard todays news | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat See there's having an opinion and there's just being rude Yea that is rude,,but wow she seriously needs to lose wieght No she doesn't. Not if she doesn't want to. I'm sure she knows the limitations and drawbacks of being that weight and it's her choice to make. its my opinion,,i think she would be healthier n happier. " She obviously doesn't. | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat Im sure we are all crying into our cake about that fact "I'm a broken women, I tell you. Heartbroken. | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat See there's having an opinion and there's just being rude Yea that is rude,,but wow she seriously needs to lose wieght Im sorry I guess I could have worded it better, should I say I prefer petite females, apologies again I guess David Cameron is not that much into overweight people on benefits as he intends to cut benefits till they loose weight, have you heard todays news" It was the fact you actually have a vomit scale for women that I found rude | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat See there's having an opinion and there's just being rude Yea that is rude,,but wow she seriously needs to lose wieght No she doesn't. Not if she doesn't want to. I'm sure she knows the limitations and drawbacks of being that weight and it's her choice to make. its my opinion,,i think she would be healthier n happier. She obviously doesn't." how do you know,,have you asked her | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat See there's having an opinion and there's just being rude Yea that is rude,,but wow she seriously needs to lose wieght Im sorry I guess I could have worded it better, should I say I prefer petite females, apologies again I guess David Cameron is not that much into overweight people on benefits as he intends to cut benefits till they loose weight, have you heard todays news" Will overweight MPs, especially that fat fuck Pickles, lose their salary and expenses too then? After all, that's also public money. | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat See there's having an opinion and there's just being rude Yea that is rude,,but wow she seriously needs to lose wieght No she doesn't. Not if she doesn't want to. I'm sure she knows the limitations and drawbacks of being that weight and it's her choice to make. its my opinion,,i think she would be healthier n happier. She obviously doesn't. how do you know,,have you asked her" I only saw a short bit of it the other day, my daughter was watching it, but as others have already said she's not 100% happy with her weight, she was getting quite emotional about it on one bit I saw | |||
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"Whitney Thore aged 30 and 27 stone tv programme on Tuesday and gone viral on you tube this woman is a fantastic dancer and would put most of us to shame check it out at 27 stone I think she would be high up on the vomit scale, not really into females with huge layers of fat See there's having an opinion and there's just being rude Yea that is rude,,but wow she seriously needs to lose wieght No she doesn't. Not if she doesn't want to. I'm sure she knows the limitations and drawbacks of being that weight and it's her choice to make. its my opinion,,i think she would be healthier n happier. She obviously doesn't. how do you know,,have you asked her" If she thought she'd be healthier and happier she'd be making changes, not prancing around on tv encouraging people to accept themselves, live life and enjoy it. That's my opinion. You know, like yours is she's less happy than she could be and *needs* to lose weight? Did you ask her before deciding those things? | |||
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"As someone who has gone from very fat to moderately fat, she may be OK now but she's 30 what's she going to be like at 40? Bad joints, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol? Possible heart attack? Of cause she may not get any of these things but I don't think you can weigh 27 stone and it have no affect on your life" But as an adult surely you have to take responsibility for that? If you know the risks and choose to accept them, it's individual choice. | |||
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"Is there one day that we can not fucking argue about body size... "Apparently not. | |||
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"As someone who has gone from very fat to moderately fat, she may be OK now but she's 30 what's she going to be like at 40? Bad joints, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol? Possible heart attack? Of cause she may not get any of these things but I don't think you can weigh 27 stone and it have no affect on your life" No you can't, I've weighted over 20 stone in the past and that weight does have an affect on your life, you get out of breath easy and your joins do hurt and the older you get the worse it becomes, it also affect your mobility I couldn't even bend over to tie my own shoe laces because my belly stopped me bending over far enough | |||
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" But as an adult surely you have to take responsibility for that? If you know the risks and choose to accept them, it's individual choice."
Perhaps another point people could debate is body shape and apple versus pear...
I am joking, of course - the whole debate about weight which has enetered a new dimension by the introduction of a KPI called "vomit scale" is so silly.
Can we not accept people for what they are? 8st or 28 st, apple or pear shape... Long live diversity! Just a thought ... | |||
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"As someone who has gone from very fat to moderately fat, she may be OK now but she's 30 what's she going to be like at 40? Bad joints, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol? Possible heart attack? Of cause she may not get any of these things but I don't think you can weigh 27 stone and it have no affect on your life No you can't, I've weighted over 20 stone in the past and that weight does have an affect on your life, you get out of breath easy and your joins do hurt and the older you get the worse it becomes, it also affect your mobility I couldn't even bend over to tie my own shoe laces because my belly stopped me bending over far enough "Agreed, it has an effect. My point is, though, it was up to you to decide to accept the effects or not and decide whether to do something about it. Other than the fundamental ones like air, food and water, it's not up to anyone to tell anyone else what they need. That's even more the case when they don't even know the person they are making decisions for. Live and let live. | |||
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" But as an adult surely you have to take responsibility for that? If you know the risks and choose to accept them, it's individual choice.
Perhaps another point people could debate is body shape and apple versus pear...
I am joking, of course - the whole debate about weight which has enetered a new dimension by the introduction of a KPI called "vomit scale" is so silly.
Can we not accept people for what they are? 8st or 28 st, apple or pear shape... Long live diversity! Just a thought ..."I dream of the day that happens. | |||
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" Live and let live." That really encapsulates the whole topic - there is no need for me whatsoever to judge others for something that does not affect me! | |||
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" Live and let live. That really encapsulates the whole topic - there is no need for me whatsoever to judge others for something that does not affect me! " | |||
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"I wonder how many of you who are commenting have actually watched interviews with her or her programme? She's not encouraging people to be overweight or saying that she's happy with her weight, she has said she wants to lose weight. The whole point is that she's encouraging people to live their life to the full and not let their weight and other people's attitudes stop them. Great attitude to have because I'm certainly guilty of saying "when I lose weight I'll..." Before you know it, you get knocked down by a bus and you've missed your chance. "I just saw the interview/dance video.... And fully concur with the above. Stop the anti-fat people hate folks.. She's not promoting her size..she's promoting happiness... If she keeps feeling happy and continues the dancing she'll become healthier and have a beautiful smile on her face...throughout her journey. Good for her. | |||
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