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"Is there any cash value protection offered? Would your redundancy pay-off give you enough that you'd feel secure that it would last you till you'd find another job? Really difficult decision I know " They won't offer redundancy currently as there is a redeployment opportunity in place | |||
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"Is there any cash value protection offered? Would your redundancy pay-off give you enough that you'd feel secure that it would last you till you'd find another job? Really difficult decision I know They won't offer redundancy currently as there is a redeployment opportunity in place " That's a bit unfair since it's effectively a demotion with such a large pay cut. | |||
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"Is there any cash value protection offered? Would your redundancy pay-off give you enough that you'd feel secure that it would last you till you'd find another job? Really difficult decision I know They won't offer redundancy currently as there is a redeployment opportunity in place " The jobs they offer you have to be reasonable, losing that much money isn't reasonable. How long do you have in the redeployment pool? Could you refuse this and hang on for something else? | |||
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"Is there any cash value protection offered? Would your redundancy pay-off give you enough that you'd feel secure that it would last you till you'd find another job? Really difficult decision I know They won't offer redundancy currently as there is a redeployment opportunity in place " Ah of course. Same at my place. I think it's worth taking it and sitting it out for a bit until you can find something else then, at least it'll give you a little financial security while you decide what to do. Unless you've got enough savings to keep you going for a few months x | |||
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"Is there any cash value protection offered? Would your redundancy pay-off give you enough that you'd feel secure that it would last you till you'd find another job? Really difficult decision I know They won't offer redundancy currently as there is a redeployment opportunity in place That's a bit unfair since it's effectively a demotion with such a large pay cut." Where I have offered demotions (as those were the roles available) I have had to keep the salary as compensation and to make it a reasonable offer and not a redundancy. Albeit the salary would be frozen at that level and reverting back to the normal salary for anyone else taking the post once the redeployed person left. | |||
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"Is there any cash value protection offered? Would your redundancy pay-off give you enough that you'd feel secure that it would last you till you'd find another job? Really difficult decision I know They won't offer redundancy currently as there is a redeployment opportunity in place That's a bit unfair since it's effectively a demotion with such a large pay cut. Where I have offered demotions (as those were the roles available) I have had to keep the salary as compensation and to make it a reasonable offer and not a redundancy. Albeit the salary would be frozen at that level and reverting back to the normal salary for anyone else taking the post once the redeployed person left. " I think I work in the same sort of organisation as cheeky. And there is no concept of negotiation on salaries. However I would have expected a short period of cash protection on taking a redeployment at a lower grade. | |||
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"Is there any cash value protection offered? Would your redundancy pay-off give you enough that you'd feel secure that it would last you till you'd find another job? Really difficult decision I know They won't offer redundancy currently as there is a redeployment opportunity in place " Whether or not they are deeming your role redundant, it may nevertheless be a redundancy. There are many issues and aspects to whether this gives you the right to claim and whether you wish to or deem it worthwhile. | |||
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"Is there any cash value protection offered? Would your redundancy pay-off give you enough that you'd feel secure that it would last you till you'd find another job? Really difficult decision I know They won't offer redundancy currently as there is a redeployment opportunity in place That's a bit unfair since it's effectively a demotion with such a large pay cut. Where I have offered demotions (as those were the roles available) I have had to keep the salary as compensation and to make it a reasonable offer and not a redundancy. Albeit the salary would be frozen at that level and reverting back to the normal salary for anyone else taking the post once the redeployed person left. " That sounds much more reasonable. Mind you, a soul destroying job is still a soul destroying job so even that sounds like it would be only a temporary solution. | |||
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"Is the redeployment not being offered at the same salary? I have always had to negotiate to as close to the same salary as possible on all redeployments I have had to make. Have you got a union rep you can speak to about helping with the negotiations? " No there is no salary protection | |||
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"I would take it and then look around... it is easier to find a role when you are in one... then negotiate your new salary once you secure a new role that is a better fit Good luck [thumb]" Agree fully with View, but also, as Lickety says, about protected salary: " Where I have offered demotions (as those were the roles available) I have had to keep the salary as compensation and to make it a reasonable offer and not a redundancy. Albeit the salary would be frozen at that level " Certainly worth asking the question. Good luck Mr ddc | |||
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"As some know I'm in the process of being unemploymed due to no funding for my role. There is a redeployment opportunity however the job they have offered is basically at a lower grade and really a demotion and also I will have a drop in salary of £8,000. I'm very reluctant to take that job as I'm over qualified for the job and to be honest it's a soul destroying job. I just feel a bit like what the fuck do I do.... " Take it to tide you over till you find a new job | |||
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"Take the job but apply for others. Unless its that bad you would rather be unemployed." This is probably the only decision you need to make, I'm guessing you probably don't have the length of service (based on your age) that statutory redundancy would be much of a comfort. Good luck with whatever happens. And I know it sounds trite but everyone I work with that this has happened to in the past couple of years (and that's an awful lot) it has worked out ok and they've gone on to better things even if it's taken a little while x | |||
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"Take the job but apply for others. Unless its that bad you would rather be unemployed. This is probably the only decision you need to make, I'm guessing you probably don't have the length of service (based on your age) that statutory redundancy would be much of a comfort. Good luck with whatever happens. And I know it sounds trite but everyone I work with that this has happened to in the past couple of years (and that's an awful lot) it has worked out ok and they've gone on to better things even if it's taken a little while x " I know I just feel like I've been kicked in the bollocks I've worked my arse off then to be thrown on the scrap heap... | |||
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"I know I just feel like I've been kicked in the bollocks I've worked my arse off then to be thrown on the scrap heap..." How many years?. Have they offered the other job to many people?? | |||
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"As some know I'm in the process of being unemploymed due to no funding for my role. There is a redeployment opportunity however the job they have offered is basically at a lower grade and really a demotion and also I will have a drop in salary of £8,000. I'm very reluctant to take that job as I'm over qualified for the job and to be honest it's a soul destroying job. I just feel a bit like what the fuck do I do.... " I would take the job while I look fr something else, a £8,000 pay drop will still be better than JSA Good luck x | |||
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"I know I just feel like I've been kicked in the bollocks I've worked my arse off then to be thrown on the scrap heap... How many years?. Have they offered the other job to many people?? " There is 8 of us and because no fucker wants the other job/s there is enough posts for all of us | |||
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"As some know I'm in the process of being unemploymed due to no funding for my role. There is a redeployment opportunity however the job they have offered is basically at a lower grade and really a demotion and also I will have a drop in salary of £8,000. I'm very reluctant to take that job as I'm over qualified for the job and to be honest it's a soul destroying job. I just feel a bit like what the fuck do I do.... I would take the job while I look fr something else, a £8,000 pay drop will still be better than JSA Good luck x" Actually once rent and bills have been taken out I'll be on the same as JSA but I refuse to sign on | |||
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"I would take it and then look around... it is easier to find a role when you are in on... then negotiate your new salary once you secure a new role that is a better fit" | |||
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"Did this happen last year as well? I would take the other job but In the mean time I would also circulate my CV and look at finding another job, 8k is a big drop, but you'll still have a wage coming in and as others have said its better than signing on and receiving JSA." Not the same situation last year but thanks for Advice | |||
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"A soul destroying job is better than no job at all. " i used to think that till i spent 2 weeks in a soul destroying job | |||
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" I know I just feel like I've been kicked in the bollocks I've worked my arse off then to be thrown on the scrap heap..." That's why I think it might not be a bad idea to take the shit job, just to give you a bit of time to get your head together and make some decisions about the future. | |||
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"I know I just feel like I've been kicked in the bollocks I've worked my arse off then to be thrown on the scrap heap... How many years?. Have they offered the other job to many people?? There is 8 of us and because no fucker wants the other job/s there is enough posts for all of us " . Ah that stops what I was going to suggest. Is the Job in the same Location Mine was 8 years, job relocation to Manchester which for me wasn't even an option. So eventually turned into redundancy, but that was also down to there would have been too many people for the new jobs. It's a difficult one | |||
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"As some know I'm in the process of being unemploymed due to no funding for my role. There is a redeployment opportunity however the job they have offered is basically at a lower grade and really a demotion and also I will have a drop in salary of £8,000. I'm very reluctant to take that job as I'm over qualified for the job and to be honest it's a soul destroying job. I just feel a bit like what the fuck do I do.... " sorry to hear the news chuck If I could offer any advice, it would be to accept the job, even though its a pay drop as at least you will still have some form of income whilst you can be looking around for a different job? Try to keep your hopes and chin up as best you can | |||
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" I know I just feel like I've been kicked in the bollocks I've worked my arse off then to be thrown on the scrap heap..." I know its hard but don't think of it like that. Its never is a personnel thing most of the time. I got made redundant in 2011 after 12 years working for the same the company. They did offer me another role but I opted to take the money and run. Looking back on it, for me it was the best move I made, I’m much happier now doing contracting work which I always wanted to do but never had the guts to leave my cushy job and try before. Obviously everyone’s situation is different, but if they are offering you a lot in redundancy pay take it have a bit of time off and look for something else. | |||
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"I would take it and then look around... it is easier to find a role when you are in on... then negotiate your new salary once you secure a new role that is a better fit" ^^^^^ this | |||
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"As some know I'm in the process of being unemploymed due to no funding for my role. There is a redeployment opportunity however the job they have offered is basically at a lower grade and really a demotion and also I will have a drop in salary of £8,000. I'm very reluctant to take that job as I'm over qualified for the job and to be honest it's a soul destroying job. I just feel a bit like what the fuck do I do.... I would take the job while I look fr something else, a £8,000 pay drop will still be better than JSA Good luck x Actually once rent and bills have been taken out I'll be on the same as JSA but I refuse to sign on " Bear in mind that on JSA they'd be looking for any excuse to sanction you, JSA would probably work out to be less. JSA is a thoroughly miserable place to be at the moment. They're actively treating people like rubbish to encourage them to sign off, their job system is mostly full of fake jobs or 2000 agency ads for the same job and sanctions are being used in a punitive way. Definitely best worth avoiding if you can! | |||
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"Take the job but apply for others. Unless its that bad you would rather be unemployed. This is probably the only decision you need to make, I'm guessing you probably don't have the length of service (based on your age) that statutory redundancy would be much of a comfort. Good luck with whatever happens. And I know it sounds trite but everyone I work with that this has happened to in the past couple of years (and that's an awful lot) it has worked out ok and they've gone on to better things even if it's taken a little while x I know I just feel like I've been kicked in the bollocks I've worked my arse off then to be thrown on the scrap heap..." You'll have gained lot of skills and abilities by working your arse off. As others have said, it will work out better in the end. You have the positive attitude and ability to turn this into an opportunity rather than a bad situation. Hang in there. | |||
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"As some know I'm in the process of being unemploymed due to no funding for my role. There is a redeployment opportunity however the job they have offered is basically at a lower grade and really a demotion and also I will have a drop in salary of £8,000. I'm very reluctant to take that job as I'm over qualified for the job and to be honest it's a soul destroying job. I just feel a bit like what the fuck do I do.... I would take the job while I look fr something else, a £8,000 pay drop will still be better than JSA Good luck x Actually once rent and bills have been taken out I'll be on the same as JSA but I refuse to sign on Bear in mind that on JSA they'd be looking for any excuse to sanction you, JSA would probably work out to be less. JSA is a thoroughly miserable place to be at the moment. They're actively treating people like rubbish to encourage them to sign off, their job system is mostly full of fake jobs or 2000 agency ads for the same job and sanctions are being used in a punitive way. Definitely best worth avoiding if you can!" I know hence why I refuse to sign on ive got a rainy day fund if needed and supportive parents | |||
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"Take the job but apply for others. Unless its that bad you would rather be unemployed. This is probably the only decision you need to make, I'm guessing you probably don't have the length of service (based on your age) that statutory redundancy would be much of a comfort. Good luck with whatever happens. And I know it sounds trite but everyone I work with that this has happened to in the past couple of years (and that's an awful lot) it has worked out ok and they've gone on to better things even if it's taken a little while x I know I just feel like I've been kicked in the bollocks I've worked my arse off then to be thrown on the scrap heap... You'll have gained lot of skills and abilities by working your arse off. As others have said, it will work out better in the end. You have the positive attitude and ability to turn this into an opportunity rather than a bad situation. Hang in there." Thanks VV | |||
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"I feel for you. I am assuming that this is local authority? If it is, then I was made redundant 4 years ago in the first tranches of redundancies and after 20 odd years in a specialised role (youth and community development) I was offered redeployment to Waste and Fleet Management despite no experience. I was on the bins and with an £8 grand wage reduction. I took it and spent 4 months there. In the meantime, I looked for other work and was lucky enough to land my dream job. Employers are more likely to want you if you're in a job. So. my advice (for what it's worth) is to hang on in there. ACAS are really supportive (if you need further advice). Also, as part of redeployment, check if your employee offers further training/ learning opps. I wanted to go into Event Management and they paid for a diploma course to ease transition. Keep you chin up (easy for me to say) and I hope things work out. PS I now work for a small charity and it's the best thing I have ever done. " *your | |||
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"Agree to it just so you have something coming in and look for something else! It is easier to get a job when you have one, catch 22 really but good luck in whatever you decide xx" Id advise you to do the same as you have financial security while you look For another job. You also then don't hate doing that job as much as you know it well come to an end soon enough, but on your terms. Don't know about it being easier to find another job while you're employed though, that depends on How many hours you work. I average 75 a week and have been trying to find another job for ages, but there's Not many places open before 5am, after 8pm or on weekends unfortunately. And the three weeks or so I get off a year come in handy to actually spend decent time with my daughter. | |||
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