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"I would say yes to them all and go swimming in a sea of vaginas." Fussy bugger | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus " Damn you boys are harsh...... 4/5 ain't bad though | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus " This is so NOT me | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus Damn you boys are harsh...... 4/5 ain't bad though " What one is missing lol? | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus " 3/5. I'll come back next year to make it 4/5. | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus Damn you boys are harsh...... 4/5 ain't bad though What one is missing lol? " Well I guess they are potentially killer legs but not in the way you meant | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus This is so NOT me " me too . lol | |||
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"Just out of curiosity guys, imagine some sort of bizarre parallel universe where single males were the ones in demand on here, and single women messaged them by the tens and hundreds - what sort of standards would you set, and what would result in an instant delete from you?" My standards And preferences wouldn't be any different. It's not down to the availability its a question of connection | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus Damn you boys are harsh...... 4/5 ain't bad though What one is missing lol? Well I guess they are potentially killer legs but not in the way you meant " Your legs look great to me | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus " 2/5...hit that delete button | |||
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"I would say yes to them all and go swimming in a sea of vaginas." Whose gonna be your lifeguard? | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus Damn you boys are harsh...... 4/5 ain't bad though What one is missing lol? Well I guess they are potentially killer legs but not in the way you meant Your legs look great to me " Not me either! Oh well. Was good while it lasted! | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus " - no pussy pics | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus " 60% match here so I wouldn't message since 1) I read profiles and 2) I don't match the criteria. Simple. | |||
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"Must know the difference between their and there. Oh, and massive tits " Well hello there/their ( delete applicable) | |||
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"Must know the difference between their and there. Oh, and massive tits " I like your username by the way xD | |||
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"Doesn't play their life out for all to see Doesn't lie and cheat Authentic Individual Creative " 4/5 again......damn.....there must be a guy that I'm perfect for?.....other than hubby of course I can see why you guys struggle so much now! | |||
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"Must know the difference between their and there. Oh, and massive tits " is massive a good handful.... | |||
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"Doesn't play their life out for all to see Doesn't lie and cheat Authentic Individual Creative 4/5 again......damn.....there must be a guy that I'm perfect for?.....other than hubby of course I can see why you guys struggle so much now!" You certainly are creative and an individual | |||
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"Must know the difference between their and there. Oh, and massive tits I like your username by the way xD " I'll need to pay more attention to my neighbours judging by your username | |||
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"Must know the difference between their and there. Oh, and massive tits is massive a good handful.... " i think you have a lovely handful "there" | |||
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"Must know the difference between their and there. Oh, and massive tits Well hello there/their ( delete applicable) " Acceptable demand met! | |||
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"Must know the difference between their and there. Oh, and massive tits is massive a good handful.... " Enough to feed a small African village | |||
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"1. Has tits. 2. Has fanny. 3. Has arse. 4. Likes it up the fanny. 5. Likes it up the arse. 6. Likes it all up in her gullet. " Oh the charm! | |||
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"1. Has tits. 2. Has fanny. 3. Has arse. 4. Likes it up the fanny. 5. Likes it up the arse. 6. Likes it all up in her gullet. Oh the charm! " I got a tablespoonful of love juice heading your way. Next stop - Gullet Boulevard. | |||
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"1. Has tits. 2. Has fanny. 3. Has arse. 4. Likes it up the fanny. 5. Likes it up the arse. 6. Likes it all up in her gullet. Oh the charm! I got a tablespoonful of love juice heading your way. Next stop - Gullet Boulevard." Oh. My. God ... | |||
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"1. Has tits. 2. Has fanny. 3. Has arse. 4. Likes it up the fanny. 5. Likes it up the arse. 6. Likes it all up in her gullet. Oh the charm! I got a tablespoonful of love juice heading your way. Next stop - Gullet Boulevard. Oh. My. God ... " Scooorrre! *victory dance*. | |||
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"Must know the difference between their and there. Oh, and massive tits " Waves! Waves qualifications in English with her other hand. | |||
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"I would say yes to them all and go swimming in a sea of vaginas." Diving in like Scrooge McDuck? | |||
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"I would say yes to them all and go swimming in a sea of vaginas. Diving in like Scrooge McDuck? " Fuck it, I'm going in dry. Dem muvvafukkas can lubricate themselves. | |||
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"Just out of curiosity guys, imagine some sort of bizarre parallel universe where single males were the ones in demand on here, and single women messaged them by the tens and hundreds - what sort of standards would you set, and what would result in an instant delete from you?" I imagine this kind of parallel universe already exists in the form of any website that caters to people wanting to form lifelong monogamous relationships. In fact I know of a few guys who use these for sex as their inboxes get swamped on them, Its like being in a sweet shop apparently. They're the type who find sex sites too much effort so instead flip the odds drastically the other way. The majority of women on there will have sex with them after a meet or two as they know full well a woman who's _iewed as "frigid" will be screwed on those sites as there'll be thousands of women that will. I suppose they would defend there actions as Its like women who come here looking For a relationship to tip the odds in their favour, but I couldn't do it, For one it smacks of being a twat, For two Im having much better more openminded sex on here! | |||
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"Must know the difference between their and there. Oh, and massive tits Waves! Waves qualifications in English with her other hand. " If your titz are filled with Jack Daniels then I may consider | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus " Demanding but doable | |||
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"Ability to converse and make me smile, do that by chatting etc and take it from there..i just go with the flow and if we click...bingo." I'm great at bingo | |||
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"Must know the difference between their and there. Oh, and massive tits Waves! Waves qualifications in English with her other hand. If your titz are filled with Jack Daniels then I may consider " If Tinas Titz are filled with Jack Daniels I call dibs while you consider... LOTR & JD... Tig | |||
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"i dont see the point in demanding anything in the first place id rather spend my time with someone that i enjoy spending my time with everything else is just a bonus " Such an attractive thing to say | |||
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"Just out of curiosity guys, imagine some sort of bizarre parallel universe where single males were the ones in demand on here, and single women messaged them by the tens and hundreds - what sort of standards would you set, and what would result in an instant delete from you? I imagine this kind of parallel universe already exists in the form of any website that caters to people wanting to form lifelong monogamous relationships. In fact I know of a few guys who use these for sex as their inboxes get swamped on them, Its like being in a sweet shop apparently. They're the type who find sex sites too much effort so instead flip the odds drastically the other way. The majority of women on there will have sex with them after a meet or two as they know full well a woman who's _iewed as "frigid" will be screwed on those sites as there'll be thousands of women that will. I suppose they would defend there actions as Its like women who come here looking For a relationship to tip the odds in their favour, but I couldn't do it, For one it smacks of being a twat, For two Im having much better more openminded sex on here! " Smacks as the truth tbh, ok you men folk on here, who else on this thread is on PoF as well? I haven't been on a dating site for over 8 years but I do tend to think a lot of men will say whatever they want for a means to an end | |||
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"Must enjoy the musical stylings of Take That and Madonna whilst also indulging in the pleasurable acts of anal coitus. Right in the butthole. Also, make me a sandwich." And I will not budge on my demands, damn it! *slams fist on desk*. | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus " My heels kill... | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus " You need to be pickier. Even I can do 4/5 of those! | |||
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"Just out of curiosity guys, imagine some sort of bizarre parallel universe where single males were the ones in demand on here, and single women messaged them by the tens and hundreds - what sort of standards would you set, and what would result in an instant delete from you? I imagine this kind of parallel universe already exists in the form of any website that caters to people wanting to form lifelong monogamous relationships. In fact I know of a few guys who use these for sex as their inboxes get swamped on them, Its like being in a sweet shop apparently. They're the type who find sex sites too much effort so instead flip the odds drastically the other way. The majority of women on there will have sex with them after a meet or two as they know full well a woman who's _iewed as "frigid" will be screwed on those sites as there'll be thousands of women that will. I suppose they would defend there actions as Its like women who come here looking For a relationship to tip the odds in their favour, but I couldn't do it, For one it smacks of being a twat, For two Im having much better more openminded sex on here! " Oo-er I've been called a twat . Likewise I'm on conventional dating sites and prefer this one | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus My heels kill... " Prove it | |||
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"Just out of curiosity guys, imagine some sort of bizarre parallel universe where single males were the ones in demand on here, and single women messaged them by the tens and hundreds - what sort of standards would you set, and what would result in an instant delete from you? I imagine this kind of parallel universe already exists in the form of any website that caters to people wanting to form lifelong monogamous relationships. In fact I know of a few guys who use these for sex as their inboxes get swamped on them, Its like being in a sweet shop apparently. They're the type who find sex sites too much effort so instead flip the odds drastically the other way. The majority of women on there will have sex with them after a meet or two as they know full well a woman who's _iewed as "frigid" will be screwed on those sites as there'll be thousands of women that will. I suppose they would defend there actions as Its like women who come here looking For a relationship to tip the odds in their favour, but I couldn't do it, For one it smacks of being a twat, For two Im having much better more openminded sex on here! Smacks as the truth tbh, ok you men folk on here, who else on this thread is on PoF as well? I haven't been on a dating site for over 8 years but I do tend to think a lot of men will say whatever they want for a means to an end " They do, that's why I prefer the honesty on here (it appears a higher percentage). | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus My heels kill... Prove it " Blisters on my feet? | |||
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"Great thread, but are single guys being really honest with so many women watching " Someone mentioned farting, so yeah | |||
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"Great thread, but are single guys being really honest with so many women watching " I would hazard a guess having been on the forums for a while that quite a few of the guys who have posted are actually being honest. Tongue in cheek maybe but why shouldn't they have demands that are reasonable? A lot of women and couples do, after all. | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus My heels kill... " the walk in the other persons shoes comes to mind with those comments above | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus My heels kill... Prove it Blisters on my feet?" Nice | |||
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"Great thread, but are single guys being really honest with so many women watching " I think some are, there's nothing to lose after all | |||
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"- Must have photos or exchange Face photos before meeting - 35-55's - Must have killer legs - Must have killer heels - Extra kinky and filthy is a bonus My heels kill... Prove it Blisters on my feet? Nice " I'd love a pair of killer heels, but comfy ones | |||
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"Great thread, but are single guys being really honest with so many women watching " The ones who reckon they wouldn't have demands, no. | |||
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"Any one who really knows me from here will know what I listed is complete bollocks, except the face photo one. . " i know you have a thing for legs! | |||
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"I'd delete all the messages that had been thought out and showed that they had read your profile" Oh, definitely this. In fact I'd only bother replying to pm's demanding "I want u 2 smash my back door in" (Assuming they were prepared to travel, and bring pizza and beer) Mr ddc | |||
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"Any one who really knows me from here will know what I listed is complete bollocks, except the face photo one. . i know you have a thing for legs! " Yours felt great Yeah I do love legs but they don't have to be long and skinny | |||
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"Oh dear...do you think curvy women would be posting "why can't I get meets?" " Nah, they'd just be told to bring bigger pizzas | |||
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"Oh dear...do you think curvy women would be posting "why can't I get meets?" Nah, they'd just be told to bring bigger pizzas " Ahhh now you're talking. No jalapeños though. I've found them to be dangerous. | |||
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"Oh dear...do you think curvy women would be posting "why can't I get meets?" " It all depends. Some men have a specific fetish For larger ladies and they would still exist. Plus there's bigger guys on here that I can't imagine ever posting those threads and they get meets anyway. I think the biggest posters of "I can't get meets" threads would be ladies who weren't willing to put in the effort, same as the majority of men who post now. Unimaginative ladies would post plenty more as I imagine an email she sent to every male that appealed to her that didn't flow well, be of quite a decent length and showed she had considered all his wants and needs would be filed under b1n. Once this had happened so many times the thread would be posted. In fact I think there would be hundreds of the threads a day, much more than now, as men generally have thicker skin than women for dealing with rejection. Plus women are used to a support network with their peer group much much more than men. I think that perhaps as many as two thirds of the entire amount of threads would be from women asking why they couldn't get meets, were this parallel site to happen.... | |||
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"Oh dear...do you think curvy women would be posting "why can't I get meets?" It all depends. Some men have a specific fetish For larger ladies and they would still exist. Plus there's bigger guys on here that I can't imagine ever posting those threads and they get meets anyway. I think the biggest posters of "I can't get meets" threads would be ladies who weren't willing to put in the effort, same as the majority of men who post now. Unimaginative ladies would post plenty more as I imagine an email she sent to every male that appealed to her that didn't flow well, be of quite a decent length and showed she had considered all his wants and needs would be filed under b1n. Once this had happened so many times the thread would be posted. In fact I think there would be hundreds of the threads a day, much more than now, as men generally have thicker skin than women for dealing with rejection. Plus women are used to a support network with their peer group much much more than men. I think that perhaps as many as two thirds of the entire amount of threads would be from women asking why they couldn't get meets, were this parallel site to happen...." I don't think so. If women couldn't get meets here we'd, mostly, change our approach or go look in places with a more even ratio of men to women (or more men). If we couldn't get meets we'd work it out or go somewhere we could. I don't think many would have the attitude, "This is a sex site. If you are here then you must want sex. I want sex. So let's go have sex" Many men post why can't I get meet threads from the position of incredulity. "Why can't I get meets?" really means "What the hell is the matter with everyone?" Very few men ask expecting to hear it's something they are doing wrong, or with much intention, if any, of changing their own approach. | |||
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"Great thread, but are single guys being really honest with so many women watching Someone mentioned farting, so yeah " | |||
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"Oh dear...do you think curvy women would be posting "why can't I get meets?" It all depends. Some men have a specific fetish For larger ladies and they would still exist. Plus there's bigger guys on here that I can't imagine ever posting those threads and they get meets anyway. I think the biggest posters of "I can't get meets" threads would be ladies who weren't willing to put in the effort, same as the majority of men who post now. Unimaginative ladies would post plenty more as I imagine an email she sent to every male that appealed to her that didn't flow well, be of quite a decent length and showed she had considered all his wants and needs would be filed under b1n. Once this had happened so many times the thread would be posted. In fact I think there would be hundreds of the threads a day, much more than now, as men generally have thicker skin than women for dealing with rejection. Plus women are used to a support network with their peer group much much more than men. I think that perhaps as many as two thirds of the entire amount of threads would be from women asking why they couldn't get meets, were this parallel site to happen.... I don't think so. If women couldn't get meets here we'd, mostly, change our approach or go look in places with a more even ratio of men to women (or more men). If we couldn't get meets we'd work it out or go somewhere we could. I don't think many would have the attitude, "This is a sex site. If you are here then you must want sex. I want sex. So let's go have sex" Many men post why can't I get meet threads from the position of incredulity. "Why can't I get meets?" really means "What the hell is the matter with everyone?" Very few men ask expecting to hear it's something they are doing wrong, or with much intention, if any, of changing their own approach." You make a good point. And yes if fab and sex sites had the ratio inverted then lots of Its female members would no doubt leave and use dating websites say merely For sex as some men do now. However there would still be a bigger amount of "Why can't I?" threads. I imagine that only a small proportion of men post these threads, the others either think "sod This" and look for other possibilities, Just lose interest in the site as its "let them down" ha, or figure out what they have done wrong and act accordingly until their success improves. The reason there are so many of these threads is because there are so many single guys. Even if only 5% of men on here posted these threads they would easily be the Most populous thread type on here. Granted, more women than not would do as you suggested were the ratio inverted. But a higher proportion than men currently would post threads, sticking to my example figure around 10-15% at least mainly because women look to a support network to overcome problems where as more men have the mindset "toughen up and stop being such a fanny". This is Why there are a higher number of male suicides than female as men don't have the ability to ask others for help as much. They perceive it quite often wrongly as a sign of weakness. This is why the old joke of the couple out driving getting lost because the man refuses to ask for directions exists. And Why less men than women see a doctor if worried about one's health. So as such, given the OP's alternate reality I believe the amount of the"Why can't I?" threads would massively increase, numbering every other kind of thread put together by two to one. Their tone would be different granted, there would be less indignancy and outrage and anger in them, replaced by tears, depression, soul-bearing and angst. They would receive less vitriol back at them too, (Apart from the Katie Hopkins type saying "Ffs woman! Grow a pair of tits and start a thread about 'Did Zaha join United too early?' if you want a response." though This type would be hounded by the masses For being unsympathetic and heartless) as women have more of a sisterhood mentality, the forums would instead become a non stop tear-jerking drama of comfort and the occasional elation and triumph, celebrated en-masse though there would still be some jealousy and bitchiness within. | |||
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"Oh dear...do you think curvy women would be posting "why can't I get meets?" It all depends. Some men have a specific fetish For larger ladies and they would still exist. Plus there's bigger guys on here that I can't imagine ever posting those threads and they get meets anyway. I think the biggest posters of "I can't get meets" threads would be ladies who weren't willing to put in the effort, same as the majority of men who post now. Unimaginative ladies would post plenty more as I imagine an email she sent to every male that appealed to her that didn't flow well, be of quite a decent length and showed she had considered all his wants and needs would be filed under b1n. Once this had happened so many times the thread would be posted. In fact I think there would be hundreds of the threads a day, much more than now, as men generally have thicker skin than women for dealing with rejection. Plus women are used to a support network with their peer group much much more than men. I think that perhaps as many as two thirds of the entire amount of threads would be from women asking why they couldn't get meets, were this parallel site to happen.... I don't think so. If women couldn't get meets here we'd, mostly, change our approach or go look in places with a more even ratio of men to women (or more men). If we couldn't get meets we'd work it out or go somewhere we could. I don't think many would have the attitude, "This is a sex site. If you are here then you must want sex. I want sex. So let's go have sex" Many men post why can't I get meet threads from the position of incredulity. "Why can't I get meets?" really means "What the hell is the matter with everyone?" Very few men ask expecting to hear it's something they are doing wrong, or with much intention, if any, of changing their own approach." Great post. | |||
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"Oh dear...do you think curvy women would be posting "why can't I get meets?" It all depends. Some men have a specific fetish For larger ladies and they would still exist. Plus there's bigger guys on here that I can't imagine ever posting those threads and they get meets anyway. I think the biggest posters of "I can't get meets" threads would be ladies who weren't willing to put in the effort, same as the majority of men who post now. Unimaginative ladies would post plenty more as I imagine an email she sent to every male that appealed to her that didn't flow well, be of quite a decent length and showed she had considered all his wants and needs would be filed under b1n. Once this had happened so many times the thread would be posted. In fact I think there would be hundreds of the threads a day, much more than now, as men generally have thicker skin than women for dealing with rejection. Plus women are used to a support network with their peer group much much more than men. I think that perhaps as many as two thirds of the entire amount of threads would be from women asking why they couldn't get meets, were this parallel site to happen.... I don't think so. If women couldn't get meets here we'd, mostly, change our approach or go look in places with a more even ratio of men to women (or more men). If we couldn't get meets we'd work it out or go somewhere we could. I don't think many would have the attitude, "This is a sex site. If you are here then you must want sex. I want sex. So let's go have sex" Many men post why can't I get meet threads from the position of incredulity. "Why can't I get meets?" really means "What the hell is the matter with everyone?" Very few men ask expecting to hear it's something they are doing wrong, or with much intention, if any, of changing their own approach. You make a good point. And yes if fab and sex sites had the ratio inverted then lots of Its female members would no doubt leave and use dating websites say merely For sex as some men do now. However there would still be a bigger amount of "Why can't I?" threads. I imagine that only a small proportion of men post these threads, the others either think "sod This" and look for other possibilities, Just lose interest in the site as its "let them down" ha, or figure out what they have done wrong and act accordingly until their success improves. The reason there are so many of these threads is because there are so many single guys. Even if only 5% of men on here posted these threads they would easily be the Most populous thread type on here. Granted, more women than not would do as you suggested were the ratio inverted. But a higher proportion than men currently would post threads, sticking to my example figure around 10-15% at least mainly because women look to a support network to overcome problems where as more men have the mindset "toughen up and stop being such a fanny". This is Why there are a higher number of male suicides than female as men don't have the ability to ask others for help as much. They perceive it quite often wrongly as a sign of weakness. This is why the old joke of the couple out driving getting lost because the man refuses to ask for directions exists. And Why less men than women see a doctor if worried about one's health. So as such, given the OP's alternate reality I believe the amount of the"Why can't I?" threads would massively increase, numbering every other kind of thread put together by two to one. Their tone would be different granted, there would be less indignancy and outrage and anger in them, replaced by tears, depression, soul-bearing and angst. They would receive less vitriol back at them too, (Apart from the Katie Hopkins type saying "Ffs woman! Grow a pair of tits and start a thread about 'Did Zaha join United too early?' if you want a response." though This type would be hounded by the masses For being unsympathetic and heartless) as women have more of a sisterhood mentality, the forums would instead become a non stop tear-jerking drama of comfort and the occasional elation and triumph, celebrated en-masse though there would still be some jealousy and bitchiness within." Sorry, I still don't agree with you. You note that women tend to think and act differently to men, which is true but you misjudge the effects of those differences. I disagree that men are emotionally tougher or introverted on here. I also disagree that it makes them less likely to post the why threads than women would be. This is because a lot of the men are blaming the site, other men, women, sunspots or Martians for their lack of success. Their emotions don't prevent them from posting because they don't recognise it's down to them. Women, in general, would. There would be more why can't I get a meet threads from women but only on the basis that there are virtually none now, so any is more. There wouldn't be a massive increase and there certainly wouldn't be a higher percentage of women posting them than than the percentage of men that do. Also, women, when given advice on what to change, would pay attention and be far more likely to act on it. The men who do ask what to change rarely actually do because it's the fault of the site, other men etc etc and many simply can't accept that it's them, not anyone else and that they need to change. | |||
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"Do's, Don'ts. etc? Me personally - no! Don't have a list now - wouldn't then. As for other site... the reason I'm here is from a PoF relationship, my Bestie I met elsewhere, 2 other friends that are now on here came from PoF. Do I use PoF for just sex? NO - the same as I don't use here for that ( and yes I'm aware it's a sex site). Those who know me will honestly tell you that if you aren't inside my head then forget it. Whilst I perhaps have a "type" that I will gravitate towards initially - my ex of 20+yrs was the total opposite. But then not everyone I meet wants to come and play inside my mind " Let me just trot around inside you head this morning | |||
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"By the way Bliss by mouth, I can't help but notice you don't seem to respect, or even like, women very much. The attitude that men are tough and keep their emotions to themselves and women are all needy, weepy, pathetic drama queens who rely on each other to prop them up emotionally is somewhat jaded and not very accurate. One wonders why you are trying to meet women." Your previous response to my last post was well thought out and made me think. You offered valid points and they were true as well. They were succinctly put and I respect your intellectual qualities qualities as they are helpful in debate. You convinced me on some things and I am reminded that such is the fact we live in an ever changing society and both genders are altering to suit. As for points of mine that I remain convinced upon, well we're both adults and can agree to disagree with no harm done. However this last post is one I can disregard completely, unlike women which I by and large hold in the highest regard and utmost respect. I look for women on here because apart from the reason of sexual attraction and chemistry I enjoy spending time with them, both for their differences in character to my own as well as similarities. At no point did I state or even infer that all women were needy drama queens whatsoever. I in fact stated that 10-15 % of women in my opinion would look to post such a thread due to character traits within themselves, which would of course be affected by their gender. The same as the same percentage of men in my opinion would be enraged by the site Not "catering For them" and it would be affected by their gender too, responding with either outbursts of bile or bottling it up inside them to seeth, This last option providing the differences in numbers of "Why can't I?" threads posted in either eventuality. I wouldn't be particularly attracted to This small percentage of women and likewise you probably wouldn't be attracted to the small proportion of irrationally angry men. However whilst I maintained that the proportion of women who would post threads such as these in the OP'S. scenario was small, you made comments such as whereas men would do this women would do that, making yourself guilty of sweeping generalizations about either sex, Not I. If I were to use the your logic in this latest post of yours regarding my feelings for women in general and applied them to Your posts in the thread, I would reach the inalienable conclusion that you disliked and disrespected all men to the point where you had an enormous irrational chip on Your shoulder. Fortunately I use my own logic and have instead reached the conclusion that the contrasts in _iews I had to yourself, be they on a small proportion of people or not, had made you draw somewhat hasty opinions on me and respond perhaps a little cattily. | |||
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"By the way Bliss by mouth, I can't help but notice you don't seem to respect, or even like, women very much. The attitude that men are tough and keep their emotions to themselves and women are all needy, weepy, pathetic drama queens who rely on each other to prop them up emotionally is somewhat jaded and not very accurate. One wonders why you are trying to meet women. Your previous response to my last post was well thought out and made me think. You offered valid points and they were true as well. They were succinctly put and I respect your intellectual qualities qualities as they are helpful in debate. You convinced me on some things and I am reminded that such is the fact we live in an ever changing society and both genders are altering to suit. As for points of mine that I remain convinced upon, well we're both adults and can agree to disagree with no harm done. However this last post is one I can disregard completely, unlike women which I by and large hold in the highest regard and utmost respect. I look for women on here because apart from the reason of sexual attraction and chemistry I enjoy spending time with them, both for their differences in character to my own as well as similarities. At no point did I state or even infer that all women were needy drama queens whatsoever. I in fact stated that 10-15 % of women in my opinion would look to post such a thread due to character traits within themselves, which would of course be affected by their gender. The same as the same percentage of men in my opinion would be enraged by the site Not "catering For them" and it would be affected by their gender too, responding with either outbursts of bile or bottling it up inside them to seeth, This last option providing the differences in numbers of "Why can't I?" threads posted in either eventuality. I wouldn't be particularly attracted to This small percentage of women and likewise you probably wouldn't be attracted to the small proportion of irrationally angry men. However whilst I maintained that the proportion of women who would post threads such as these in the OP'S. scenario was small, you made comments such as whereas men would do this women would do that, making yourself guilty of sweeping generalizations about either sex, Not I. If I were to use the your logic in this latest post of yours regarding my feelings for women in general and applied them to Your posts in the thread, I would reach the inalienable conclusion that you disliked and disrespected all men to the point where you had an enormous irrational chip on Your shoulder. Fortunately I use my own logic and have instead reached the conclusion that the contrasts in _iews I had to yourself, be they on a small proportion of people or not, had made you draw somewhat hasty opinions on me and respond perhaps a little cattily." Not catty, as observation. Your suggestion of what you think the fora would be like with the ratios reversed demonstrates how you _iew female behaviour. The words weepy, drama etc were yours. That's a positive _iew of women? Whatever you say. The fact remains, I am a woman. I know what I would do if I couldn't get meets here. I know what I do do during dry spells. I know a lot of women do/would do the same. I think you don't know women in general as well as you think you do if you think we'd sit around weeping to each other over not getting meets, or that there would be even as many posts about it, never mind more! | |||
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"At no point did I state or even infer that all women were needy drama queens whatsoever." What do you think this says about how you _iew women, or how you appear to _iew women: ""as women have more of a sisterhood mentality, the forums would instead become a non stop tear-jerking drama of comfort and the occasional elation and triumph, celebrated en-masse though there would still be some jealousy and bitchiness within."" But no, you didn't suggest women are weepy or drama queens... As for, ""as men generally have thicker skin than women for dealing with rejection."" Have you turned down many men? Ask those who do how well some men, (note the "some"), handle rejection! The suggestion that 2/3 of all forum posts would be women complaining they can't get meets is, well, lets just say I don't agree with you. | |||
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"You can quote me all you like, I stand by everything I've said. Id certainly agree with you one thing; we're examining the situation from completely different experiences, obviously you will have turned down far more men than I as my polite declinations Are limited merely to gay men, which I will be honest and say I've never had a bad reaction from yet in hundreds of replies, Though I like to think I am tactful in that regard. So you know their reactions at least with regard to straight men. Upon turning down women However I find that a small percentage respond with outrage and surprised hurt. Again This is my honest observation. I wasn't denying the words I used, what I was denying was Your assumption that the words I used applied to women across the board, when I was referring to a relatively small percentage. It's a fact that the type of both men and women who throw a hissy Are the type who make the Most noise. A clear example of this are the amount of messages single females receive that say simply "fancy a Fuck?" or some other such drivel in proportion to the total messages they receive. There is probably only 10-15% of men who Are that moronic, But as they use a scattergun approach the amount of mail a single femme will receive of This type who haven't even read their profile will be far higher. Likewise I imagine that the female gender on here contains 10-15% of such moronic specimens like the male, as neither sex in general is intellectually superior to the other. If the roles were reversed regarding ratio, they would clearly be at the bottom of the pile in the way the male morons Are now. They would air their grievances publicly, For as I've said, morons make the Most noise. Therefore I imagine that their posts would be of far greater proportion than they. The threads would gradually become more numerous as Like I've said also male morons tend to bottle it up and release their frustration in violent outbursts of anger, which is bad news For anyone physically near them, But good news in terms of the amount of forum posts from the loons that We have to put up with. I fully expect to start with that should the ratios be reversed the amount of "Why can't I?" threads would climb rapidly to almost half of those on here as the threads would be from female morons who would discuss their idiotic non-intellectual equals rather than put their fist through a laptop (note Im Not making a sweeping generalisation about men here, But This is moronic behaviour of the predominantly male kind) Like the male idiots would. Then over time to 2/3 as regular posters got so fed of the constant whining from the 10-15% moron factor of women that they fucked the forums off. Just my opinion, based on my own logic and experience the same as yours. I respect Your opinion on this as obviously you've put thought into it and it comes from Your own experiences. What I don't respect however is your assumption that I don't like or have any respect for women in general and furthermore airing This hastily arrived at conclusion. Do I think that 10-15% of women are weepy drama queens? Probably, yes. And idiotic to boot. Do you I also think that the same proportion of men Are dickheads? Yes and I don't hold them in high regard either. If This means in your opinion that I don't like or respect forwomen in general then I believe your opinion and subsequent public assassination on my character at least is utter bollocks. A shame as with Your prior posts you were talking sense and I enjoyed reading a different perspective and taking it on board." Spend as much time on your high horse as you like. You stated that with women as a majority on here the forum would become a tearful drama-fest. You didn't say a proportion of the posts would be a weepy and drama filled, you said the forum, meaning the vast majority of the women using the fora would be snivelling drama queens. Your words, not mine. The 10-15% was pulled from thin air. The 2/3 of all posts would be women complaining they can't get meets is frankly ridiculous. Your claim about how women would behave in the theoretical situation is just a guess; a wild one, made by someone who doesn't even have the insight into female behaviour that comes from actually being female. Your words speak for themselves regardless of denial, back-pedalling, your disappointment, (the proclamation of which just sounded pompous), further random guesses, high horses or claimed moral high ground. Carry on though. Statements like 2/3 of all the posts here would be women complaining they can't get meets do more to weaken any case you make than anything I could say. | |||
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"I've made myself perfectly clear. It was my opinion that the forums would be overpopulation by drama type posts which is still my opinion. In no way is This a slur on women in general. Its a case of a minority of women making a majority of the posts, hence the majority of the posts on here would be the drama version. Its the same logic as a minority of men sending many more crap messages than agreeable chaps. In both cases the types Are therefore vastly over represented. Im Not back pedalling at all as I stand by my comments. It may Not have been perfectly clear to you on my first post, perhaps you simply didn't get it, perhaps I didn't wasn't clear enough. Whatever, thats Not the issue. So I even expanded on them to make my logic plain. Yet you still persist in insisting that the slur on my character still stands, despite this. I honestly believe that This is an argument For arguements sake, which is an exercise in futility." I'm saying you came across as not thinking very much of women. You did. You basically said if the ratios were swapped here, the fora would become a nasty, tearful, drama-filled place, 2/3 full of women moaning they can't get meets. I don't know you. I don't know if you have a character flaw. What you wrote, however, came across as the _iew and predictions of someone with a very low opinion of women. I'm disagreeing with you because you're continuing to insist you're right and I'm wrong, unfair and unreasonable. I disagree. Hence the argument. The fora now are nothing like even 1/10 full of 'why can't I get a meet?' posts so the claim if the ratios were reversed suddenly 2/3 of posts would be women complaining they can't get meets is wildly fantastic. The fora now are not dominated by one prevailing theme or tone with the few making the majority of the posts. Hundreds of people posts on a wide range of subjects every day. Sure, some subjects are repeated frequently but they remain only a small, tiny, fraction of the number of posts made overall. There's no reason to think that would change. Your claims are beyond unrealistic. If you choose to come back and tell me I'm wrong again, unless you have anything other than wild supposition and fantasy figures, you aren't going to change my opinion. And I will respond to you again. That does, indeed, seem like an exercise in futility but it's up to you. Trying to force me into backing down with accusations of arguing for the sake of it is also pointless. I've said what I think and I'm happy to agree to differ. It's you that apparently can't accept I don't agree with you. That's too bad because you aren't going to change my mind with predictions, based on nothing realistic and pulled from thin air. You can continue to insist your thin air logic is right if you like, but I will respond. | |||
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"Based on my experience, if the forums were more woman-heavy than they are, the level of bitchiness, sniping and generally driving threads into the ground through bloody minded obsession with having the last word would probably increase. Vive the current male/female balance I say! " I said this earlier and received no opprobrium. It's not a million miles away from what the man a couple of posts above me said, although I wouldn't want to put ratios or percentages on it. Sexism is alive and kicking on this site, it just isn't always directed towards women. | |||
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"Based on my experience, if the forums were more woman-heavy than they are, the level of bitchiness, sniping and generally driving threads into the ground through bloody minded obsession with having the last word would probably increase. Vive the current male/female balance I say! I said this earlier and received no opprobrium. It's not a million miles away from what the man a couple of posts above me said, although I wouldn't want to put ratios or percentages on it. Sexism is alive and kicking on this site, it just isn't always directed towards women. " If you're saying that the comments Bliss made are the same as yours, they're not. You said bitchiness, sniping and arguing would increase. I agree. He said a lot of things including there would be hundreds of threads every day in which women complain they can't get meets. He also said that two of every three forum posts would be women complaining they can't get meets. Hundreds every day? Two thirds? I don't think so. He said men take rejection better. I disagree. He said more women would complain in the position of men because men are more emotionally stoic. I disagree He said the forum would be filled with weepy, emotional drama. You said it would increase. He said it would take over the entire forum. The atmosphere would totally change. I agree with you. I disagree with him, on very distinct points for reasons I can justify. It's not sexism at all. Had a man made your comment I'd still agree with it. If a woman made the comments Bliss made, I'd still disagree, for the same reasons. Hundreds of why can't I get a meet posts, totalling 2/3 of all posts? No way. | |||
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"Well to lighten the mood a bit...mine would have to be a face sitter! " Why? Do you need someone to look after it when you go out? | |||
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"My opinions on this scenario seem highly implausible to you and that is fine. They are mine only. I can accept that yours are vastly different. Neither of us is going to change the other's mind on that score and disagreement is part and parcel of everyday life, I for one wouldn't want to live in a society of nodding dogs. You have stated that in your opinion I have a low opinion of women too. That is the only thing I really take umbridge with as it slaints my actual character, though I believe I have made my actual feelings towards women plain enough for other forumites to understand so am Not unduly worried if one person thinks otherwise. Plus it is clear you enjoy arguing on an extremely regular basis so Im confident that will be also be considered if others wish to form opinions of me based on your own. I would however like to offer my apologies to the OP for casting a shadow on what looks to have been a highly thoughtful thread that to start, that could have been much more amusing had it Not been tainted by our stupid bickering." Oh do give it up already. Yes, I argue with people I don't agree with. You gave your opinion and I gave mine, you're the one that carried it on because you didn't like that I said your prediction of how the forum would be suggests a poor _iew of women. I stand by that, it does. It's funny that the predictions are that women would make this place full of arguing, bitchiness and trying to get the last word, and yet here you are, involved in doing exactly the same thing. So it would seem that it's not just women that do it after all. If anyone is forming opinions here, your claims that if women were the majority here, there would be "hundreds" of why can't I get a meet posts every day and they would amount to two out of three of all forum posts made, because women are less resilient than men, handle rejection less well and are weepy and emotional and require support, will speak for you. And if people think I am argumentative, they're right and it will come as no surprise to them. Now give it a rest unless you really want to drag this into another day. | |||
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"In all fairness, though the above argument is totally stupid, I'd say men, as a group, probably would take rejection better than many women. Some of us women may be strong willed and confident enough to hack it, but many women, if rejected as often as the men on fab are, would feel rather down about themselves I'm sure. I don't know how publicly they would air those feelings as this guy suggests, but certainly I feel women as a general are more likely to take rejection to heart " I completely agree, I know I'd probably find it hard to take frequent rejection, I don't think I'd be alone in this, and all my experience of women suggests that's exactly what would happen. | |||
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"In all fairness, though the above argument is totally stupid, I'd say men, as a group, probably would take rejection better than many women. Some of us women may be strong willed and confident enough to hack it, but many women, if rejected as often as the men on fab are, would feel rather down about themselves I'm sure. I don't know how publicly they would air those feelings as this guy suggests, but certainly I feel women as a general are more likely to take rejection to heart " Guys handle the end of relationships just as badly as women, in general. Lots of women block after saying no on here because of how often men come back with insults for being turned down. Women and couples do it too, of course, but I think it indicates a lot of men are no better at accepting rejection than women. Some men regard sex as a right, something they are entitled to. In my experience it's less common for women to feel that way. If I wasn't getting what I wanted here I'd leave and use an alternate means of meeting people. I'm confident most of the women I know on here, (know well, I mean), would do the same. | |||
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" Now give it a rest unless you really want to drag this into another day." Oh please God, no.Agree to disagree seems to be the way forward. Though on a good note it does seem to have started an interesting debate. Now onto the popular five requirements. I actually get a creditable 3.5/5! I knocked half a mark off as while fond of my legs, I don't Like my knees. Nowhere on that list does it say shall Not possess a penis. | |||
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"But do you not think that is a skewed _iew? I would argue most of the women you get to know here are the ones who use the forums, who by default are exposed to a broader spectrum of opinions and oversight of problems within the site and mental support from other posters which helps strengthen their own convictions. Those that do not use the forums very much would be more likely to assume it is an individual problem with them rather than understanding it as a site-wide phenomenon. They are more likely to develop negative feelings towards the rejection. Infact I would argue that joining public discussion at all and making your opinions known generally shows stronger character to begin with so the women we get to know on here probably are the ones who would be right there with you in understanding and solving the problem. Ahh I digress and the baby is crying... Ill be back shortly " Perhaps but my experiences in daily life also show men don't handle rejection any better than women, in general. Men tend to get angry and bitter more often, because it's not the done thing to show weakness by being sad. That actually makes them more likely to rant about it. This ties in with the forum where many of the posts by men are angry ones, (women who don't reply are ignorant, rude and stuck-up, women who have a list of criteria that exclude me are snooty, unrealistic bitches etc.). As Tina says, I don't think on balance either sex takes rejection better than another. However, men do tend to get angry and blame the site, the women, the other men and anything else they can think of rather than looking to themselves and their own behaviour first. Women may be hurt and upset by rejection but they're far more likely to look at themselves to find a solution. If women were in the majority here I don't think there would be any more 'can't get a meet' posts by women (weepy and pathetic or otherwise) than there are 'can't get a meet' posts made by men (angry and ranty, unhappy or genuinely seeking ways to change things) now. The suggestion women are weepy and pathetic over rejection where as men are stoic and don't complain isn't true in my experience. And as someone who very definitely has a backbone and a strong personality, I do take exception to the suggestion that women get all teary-eyed when things don't go their way, and need constant emotional support from each other. Most of us are not delicate little flowers. | |||
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"Going by the replies to my demands, although you all know it was rather tongue & cheek and not serious. I know your replies are also. It almost puts some light onto the subject of self depreciation don't you think? Feeling like you need certain attributes to begin with before you even consider talking with me. Would you then feel then not good enough or look at yourself and think "well I don't have nice legs" etc etc so I won't bother. Now flip that around for us men. The amount of people I don't message because of this simple little check list can and has made me (and I'm sure other guys also) feel inferior " It's a fair point. And another reason why I'm not a big fan of the 'checklist' approach to profiles; the scary ones. I'm obviously not going to be interested in everyone that messages me, but I never want to make anyone feel inferior because I know what that feels like and it's not nice. | |||
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"Going by the replies to my demands, although you all know it was rather tongue & cheek and not serious. I know your replies are also. It almost puts some light onto the subject of self depreciation don't you think? Feeling like you need certain attributes to begin with before you even consider talking with me. Would you then feel then not good enough or look at yourself and think "well I don't have nice legs" etc etc so I won't bother. Now flip that around for us men. The amount of people I don't message because of this simple little check list can and has made me (and I'm sure other guys also) feel inferior " If preferences are stated and I'm a reasonably close match, I'd message. If specific requirements are stated, such as must be over 5' 8", and I'm not, I won't message. My profile has both preferences and deal-breakers on it. If someone isn't confident enough that they fit to message, if they wink and I'm interested, I'll usually message them. I'm not to everyone's taste and being turned down doesn't usually make me inferior. The exception to that is when my mood is low because then I'm looking for an excuse to beat myself up and will seize on any rejection or slight to do so. That's a problem with my brain though and not the fault of the person saying no thanks. I like guys who a lot would consider out of my league. I'm used to being turned down. We're not suited, that's all. | |||
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