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"Just curious... Are people more enthused by Milliband as a result of his recent outbursts or do you feel like he is a cringeworthy fool digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself? Personally I just feel like giving him a bigger spade." Fool!  | |||
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"Does he have to be one or the other? He's definitely not a hero, but I'm not sure I'd say fool either. I think he's a clever man who is lacking many of the necessary skills to be a good leader and should never have been elected to that position. " I agree he doesn't have to be a fool but IMHO he is a moderately intelligent chap with the incorrect opinion, based on the misguided belief that socialism is a credible economic policy. It just goes to show how awful his leadership rivals were. | |||
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"Does he have to be one or the other? He's definitely not a hero, but I'm not sure I'd say fool either. I think he's a clever man who is lacking many of the necessary skills to be a good leader and should never have been elected to that position. " Lacking skills yes. Clever? Well that depends on how you judge cleverness. If you're using bacon sandwich consumption he failed miserably, however he can walk.  | |||
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"Does he have to be one or the other? He's definitely not a hero, but I'm not sure I'd say fool either. I think he's a clever man who is lacking many of the necessary skills to be a good leader and should never have been elected to that position. I agree he doesn't have to be a fool but IMHO he is a moderately intelligent chap with the incorrect opinion, based on the misguided belief that socialism is a credible economic policy. It just goes to show how awful his leadership rivals were. " I completely disagree with pretty much all of his beliefs and policies, but he must be fairly clever to have got where he is despite a spectacular lack of charisma, so I'm going with misguided. | |||
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"Isn't the 'Ed Miller Band' some sort of musical combo? Seriously though....They picked the wrong brother imho" Joker. | |||
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"Just curious... Are people more enthused by Milliband as a result of his recent outbursts or do you feel like he is a cringeworthy fool digging a deeper and deeper hole for himself? Personally I just feel like giving him a bigger spade." I'll chip in to the fund to buy that bigger spade. 
Millipede seems like a nice enough bloke but i think he and Labour will ruin this country if they win the election and he gets into number 10. He looks daft eating a bacon sandwich, he looks shifty when he tips beggars in the street and he looks like a fool when he speaks on telly, no way in a million years would he ever get my vote. Even in Scotland where Labour are supposed to be strong, he's been told to stay away because it will drive more support to the SNP, says it all really, lol. | |||
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"Nobody gets to the top of the political pole without being very intelligent! Maybe the question we should be asking is why are the media painting him in such a bad light?" Because he makes it easy for them ? | |||
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"the wrong brother thing is probably true, been voting for 36 years this election and not deemed it of consequence to vote for anyone based on their ability to eat a sandwich, tip a beggar or any of the other banal irrelevancies that seem to have become 'important' to anyone wanting to be PM in the present times.. " The sandwich and the beggar things are just amusing sideshows which highlight how awkward he appears to look in public, would you want this man representing us at the G8 or the whitehouse with the worlds media spotlight on him? We would be a laughing stock, at least Cameron looks the part. Besides its Milibands position on the EU, and how he would go about fixing the economy that is turning people off from voting Labour for most people. | |||
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"As much as I despise the Conservative Party I look at the bigger picture. They are the only realistic government. The best looking turd in a bucket of shit." And from the same educational background as the prime minister  yes they all seem pretty much as bad as each other,however you cannot blame labour for all the countries inadequacies ...start with the tories flogging off everything to their rich pals(which hasnt really stopped since Maggie Snatcher)...anyone that thinks differently really does have their head buried up their own arse.
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" at least Cameron looks the part. " Would that be the man that President Obama was recorded referring to as "what a lightweight" and has spent the last 4 and a 1/2 years running round shouting the odds internationally and getting nothing. Unless you count an EU rebate that we were going to get in any case? Or managing to so upset his coalition partners that they blocked his attempts to introduce electoral boundary changes? Or the Law and Order Government that have managed to so alienate the police that they are now all targets. Or maybe you mean the man who employed a criminal to run his PR (remember Andy Coulson). I would suggest that if its a choice between someone who is so open he can get caught looking uncomfortable in the presence of a beggar and looks a plonker when trying not to get grease on his clothes while eating an overfilled greasy bacon buttie, and someone who backs criminals right up to their conviction then I know who I would choose, and it's not the twat who has spent the last 5 years steeling from the poor to give to his rich mates! | |||
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"As much as I despise the Conservative Party I look at the bigger picture. They are the only realistic government. The best looking turd in a bucket of shit.And from the same educational background as the prime minister yes they all seem pretty much as bad as each other,however you cannot blame labour for all the countries inadequacies ...start with the tories flogging off everything to their rich pals(which hasnt really stopped since Maggie Snatcher)...anyone that thinks differently really does have their head buried up their own arse.
"It is often said that Conservatives flog everything off to their rich pals. I am wondering if you can give us an actual example of this other than perpetuating a soundbyte that is just a lie. What you are alleging is corruption and that is a legal matter so rather than post your findings on here - better report them the the Police. | |||
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" ..... and it's not the twat who has spent the last 5 years steeling from the poor to give to his rich mates!" That soundbyte again... Give us an example or better still report this high level corruption to the Police. | |||
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" ..... and it's not the twat who has spent the last 5 years steeling from the poor to give to his rich mates! That soundbyte again... Give us an example or better still report this high level corruption to the Police." And here was me thinking the tories had been in coalition with the lib dems for the last 5 years but no mention of them from the tory bashers, lol. Looks like the Lib dems get off scott free, ha, and was'nt it Vince Cable who oversaw the sale of Royal Mail into the private sector?  | |||
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"As much as I despise the Conservative Party I look at the bigger picture. They are the only realistic government. The best looking turd in a bucket of shit." While I would not agree with your conclusion, I certainly agree with your reasoning as you can apply the turd analogy to any of our political parties. | |||
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"Does he have to be one or the other? He's definitely not a hero, but I'm not sure I'd say fool either. I think he's a clever man who is lacking many of the necessary skills to be a good leader and should never have been elected to that position. I agree he doesn't have to be a fool but IMHO he is a moderately intelligent chap with the incorrect opinion, based on the misguided belief that socialism is a credible economic policy. It just goes to show how awful his leadership rivals were. " Actually not true! His brother David has clear leadership potential IMHO - but the unions wanted a puppet and so voted Ed into the role. A travesty in my opinion! Xx | |||
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"the wrong brother thing is probably true, been voting for 36 years this election and not deemed it of consequence to vote for anyone based on their ability to eat a sandwich, tip a beggar or any of the other banal irrelevancies that seem to have become 'important' to anyone wanting to be PM in the present times.. The sandwich and the beggar things are just amusing sideshows which highlight how awkward he appears to look in public, would you want this man representing us at the G8 or the whitehouse with the worlds media spotlight on him? We would be a laughing stock, at least Cameron looks the part. Besides its Milibands position on the EU, and how he would go about fixing the economy that is turning people off from voting Labour for most people. " 'looking the part' is part of the issue, Cameron has not exactly shone this last 4 yrs and 9 months.. whomever gets in it will be more of the same.. | |||
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"He is the best we got for ordinary and real people, so I will be voting for him xx " A profoundly middle class career politician who is as far removed from places like Bransholme and Orchard Park in Hull as you could imagine. Surely Labour could do better. | |||
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"Nobody gets to the top of the political pole without being very intelligent! Maybe the question we should be asking is why are the media painting him in such a bad light?" Oh come on! John Prescott deputy prime minister for one perfect example. | |||
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"He is the best we got for ordinary and real people, so I will be voting for him xx A profoundly middle class career politician who is as far removed from places like Bransholme and Orchard Park in Hull as you could imagine. Surely Labour could do better." Blair took Labour away from the 'working class' in his quest for middle England / centre left voters.. there is no real viable party to represent that grouping at present and fringe parties like the Greens and Ukip may well benefit as will the SNP.. If Labour doesn't address itself it risks becoming a coalition only governing party however perhaps the same could be said for the Tories.. | |||
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" ..... and it's not the twat who has spent the last 5 years steeling from the poor to give to his rich mates! That soundbyte again... Give us an example or better still report this high level corruption to the Police." . I think you need to look at the sound bite from a slightly different angle as it's not necessarily their "friends" but certainly the wealthy benefiting. A prime example would be the recent sell off of the royal mail, which was sold undervalued (always good for a quick buck on your investment), only 30% was sold to the public that owned it ( 70% going to hedge funds, banks and pension companies), they split the pension liability from the royal mail just before it was sold to allow the rich to profit without worrying about pensions, which means we make no profit but still have the liability ( great move on our part there ).
The whole deception with mainstream politics and parties is to make you assume one party is different to the other or have differing opinions, when in fact labour had planned on selling the mail before the Tories!.
To answer the question I very much doubt a guy with a 2:1 and a masters and earns a considerable amount more than anyone else on here is stupid or foolish.
People gleefully tell me that socialism is the politics of envy!.
If that's the case then I think we can equally say that thinking your brighter than a guy who is clearly smarter than you, is the envy of the dumbed down sound bite brigade.
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"At the moment he's a hero to the Tories lol. "If you're not a socialist by the time you're twenty, you haven't got a heart. But if you're not a Tory by the time you're forty five, you haven't got a brain"." . That's what they say!!. Personally I just think it's a myth circulated by those that seek to govern. I don't think they've ever given a shit about the people, it's always been a country ruled by the elite for the elite and I don't think any things ever changed. They've given every inclination over the years that rather than better things for the people, they willfully make things worse to serve their own ends. I certainly wouldn't feel good to openly support any of the big three political parties when all they've done is treat people like dog shit under their shoes. | |||
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" Weren't Milliband and Balls part of the previous Government, they certainly were advisers to them. The previous Government who fucked the country up so badly that you've yet to see all the ramifications. If he gets to be PM he'll be the luckiest, least deserving twat of all time." .noooo Surely they couldn't have been worse than that paedo Ted heath! | |||
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"As much as I despise the Conservative Party I look at the bigger picture. They are the only realistic government. The best looking turd in a bucket of shit.And from the same educational background as the prime minister yes they all seem pretty much as bad as each other,however you cannot blame labour for all the countries inadequacies ...start with the tories flogging off everything to their rich pals(which hasnt really stopped since Maggie Snatcher)...anyone that thinks differently really does have their head buried up their own arse.
It is often said that Conservatives flog everything off to their rich pals. I am wondering if you can give us an actual example of this other than perpetuating a soundbyte that is just a lie.
What you are alleging is corruption and that is a legal matter so rather than post your findings on here - better report them the the Police."...Yawn,every utility company that was sold on had numerous tory mps on their boards....you should look up facts. Oh the labour leaders a pleb though..thats a stark fact!! Educating pork springs to mind | |||
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" ..... and it's not the twat who has spent the last 5 years steeling from the poor to give to his rich mates! That soundbyte again... Give us an example or better still report this high level corruption to the Police. And here was me thinking the tories had been in coalition with the lib dems for the last 5 years but no mention of them from the tory bashers, lol. Looks like the Lib dems get off scott free, ha, and was'nt it Vince Cable who oversaw the sale of Royal Mail into the private sector? "Margaret Thatcher years were not the past 5......keep up | |||
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"tough choice ..... but not anyway near as tough as trying to decide wether Cameron is villainous sociopath or compulsive liar" . Lol you know perfectly well he's a Villainous sociopath | |||
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"tough choice ..... but not anyway near as tough as trying to decide wether Cameron is villainous sociopath or compulsive liar. Lol you know perfectly well he's a Villainous sociopath" watch out .... the extreme right will be asking you for examples/proof to back up that soundbyte anyhow, it seems to me that he may indeed be both | |||
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"He's neither a hero not a fool, just a career politician whose own beliefs no longer fit the political party to which he is affiliated, and trying to take Labour back towards the left would ultimately be a futile exercise as this country's political spectrum now operates from a position of just left of centre to quite a way to the right and shows no sign of changing in the near future." I couldn't agree more, how accurate! You should put yourself forward! | |||
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"He's neither a hero not a fool, just a career politician whose own beliefs no longer fit the political party to which he is affiliated, and trying to take Labour back towards the left would ultimately be a futile exercise as this country's political spectrum now operates from a position of just left of centre to quite a way to the right and shows no sign of changing in the near future. I couldn't agree more, how accurate! You should put yourself forward! " . Bullocks you see I disagree I'm (left wing), but I'm also right wing on some things I'm neither on others, I think this whole I'm left your right is just showmanship for the foolish. Although most Tories, not all I may add are just the usual I'm in it for my mates brigade. Winston Churchill left something like 370k in his will, not bad for a guy who spent nearly all his life in the army!!. | |||
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"He's neither a hero not a fool, just a career politician whose own beliefs no longer fit the political party to which he is affiliated, and trying to take Labour back towards the left would ultimately be a futile exercise as this country's political spectrum now operates from a position of just left of centre to quite a way to the right and shows no sign of changing in the near future. I couldn't agree more, how accurate! You should put yourself forward! . Bullocks you see I disagree I'm (left wing), but I'm also right wing on some things I'm neither on others, I think this whole I'm left your right is just showmanship for the foolish. Although most Tories, not all I may add are just the usual I'm in it for my mates brigade. Winston Churchill left something like 370k in his will, not bad for a guy who spent nearly all his life in the army!!. " Way to miss the point completely... | |||
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"Nobody gets to the top of the political pole without being very intelligent! " John Prescott was Deputy Prime Minister and he was an ignorant, semi-literate buffoon. | |||
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" Lacking skills yes. Clever? Well that depends on how you judge cleverness. If you're using bacon sandwich consumption he failed miserably, however he can walk. "The whole bacon sandwich thing is a farce - the Milibands are of jewish heritage so of course bacon consumption may be an "issue" for them Would any of the mockers take the same tone if a bacon buttie was jammed under the nose of Sajid Javid the Culture Secretary(and man who would be King of the Tory party) as he is of Muslim heritage with a similar dietary ban on bacon - would the chattering classes find that amusing??? I think not!! | |||
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