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"I know a few bipolar people, and never found them to be violent, but they can become very depressed, and withdraw. I choose not to play with any of them, as fab is about fun for me, not looking after someone vulnerable." | |||
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"How would you deal with the situation , if on a meet the other person begins to go low or cycle " I wouldn't KNOWINGLY meet someone who is Bi-Polar. It's highly unlikely someone is going to flip out on a meet, but it's not a risk I'd knowingly take. BECAUSE... If she DID flip out and screams the "R" word...I'm (just like any guy) is in deep shit. I'm not going to take the risk of fucking my life up over a shag. | |||
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"How would you deal with the situation , if on a meet the other person begins to go low or cycle ? Coming from a perspective of zero knowledge about such conditions ?" good question, as you know there are many forms of bi polar, some may cycle only once or twice a year, this rarely comes on suddenly but start to go up or down over a period of time. I'm a rapid cycler to be diagnosed as a rapid cycler you need to experience four or more episodes in a year. Unfortunately for me I can have days where I constantly cycle from hour to hour and then maybe go a week with no cycle. From my personal experience your more likely to notice when I'm high rather than low, if I went low mid meet the outward signs would probably be me going very quiet and distant. Today I've suffered badly with panic attacks but that is something different and you don't have to have bi polar to have panic attacks. I used to have a sticker on my front door at eye level, if I ever needed medical assistance like an ambulance it was like a green SOS kind of thing and they would know instantly where all my details where kept which was a plastic tube kept in the fridge. Also I'm supposed to wear my SOS bracket but I tend to only wear that if I'm going somewhere strange. Anyway, unless someone is a rapid cycler I don't think you would see any great change in a matter of a couple of hours. | |||
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"How would you deal with the situation , if on a meet the other person begins to go low or cycle ? Coming from a perspective of zero knowledge about such conditions ?good question, as you know there are many forms of bi polar, some may cycle only once or twice a year, this rarely comes on suddenly but start to go up or down over a period of time. I'm a rapid cycler to be diagnosed as a rapid cycler you need to experience four or more episodes in a year. Unfortunately for me I can have days where I constantly cycle from hour to hour and then maybe go a week with no cycle. From my personal experience your more likely to notice when I'm high rather than low, if I went low mid meet the outward signs would probably be me going very quiet and distant. Today I've suffered badly with panic attacks but that is something different and you don't have to have bi polar to have panic attacks. I used to have a sticker on my front door at eye level, if I ever needed medical assistance like an ambulance it was like a green SOS kind of thing and they would know instantly where all my details where kept which was a plastic tube kept in the fridge. Also I'm supposed to wear my SOS bracket but I tend to only wear that if I'm going somewhere strange. Anyway, unless someone is a rapid cycler I don't think you would see any great change in a matter of a couple of hours. " Quite an insightful post diamond, a lot choose not to conveye how bi-polar affects them. | |||
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"Nice to see all the mental health education hasn't gone to waste and that all people with bi polar are going to flip out, get violent or shout rape and judging by all the threads we've had on the subject and the amount of people on the forums that admit to suffering you've probably already met a leper whoops sorry someone with bi polar. " Just for curiosity ? There are those who do flip out and become violent what is their condition and how should a person deal with that ? | |||
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"I was hoping you would post Diamonds Ive never met anyone with more insight and understanding of bi polar,not only in how it can affect other people but how you know yourself so well that you can see how it affects you,you seem to manage it rather than it manage you x " thanks honeypot, unfortunately its a condition you have to live with the best you can | |||
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"this is really interesting,this would have never even have crossed my mind. how would you be able to even tell if someone was bi polar or not?? and forgive me maybe for the stupid question,but im totally uninformed when it comes to being bi polar." Why do you even feel that you need to know if someone has bi polar or not? It's not something thats ever crossed my mind when I've been arranging a meet People with it are not another species who have to be treated in a special way to stop them flipping out | |||
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"Nice to see all the mental health education hasn't gone to waste and that all people with bi polar are going to flip out, get violent or shout rape and judging by all the threads we've had on the subject and the amount of people on the forums that admit to suffering you've probably already met a leper whoops sorry someone with bi polar. Just for curiosity ? There are those who do flip out and become violent what is their condition and how should a person deal with that ?" anyone can just flip out, you don't have to be bi polar, there are all sorts of mental illness's. But I don't think someone is going to go from being perfectly calm to violent that quickly and if they where that unstable to be a danger to someone else they would probably be in a unit anyway | |||
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"this is really interesting,this would have never even have crossed my mind. how would you be able to even tell if someone was bi polar or not?? and forgive me maybe for the stupid question,but im totally uninformed when it comes to being bi polar. Why do you even feel that you need to know if someone has bi polar or not? It's not something thats ever crossed my mind when I've been arranging a meet People with it are not another species who have to be treated in a special way to stop them flipping out " Honey that's unfair and wrongly defensive ? He said he does not know why should he know . His comment was un bias and open minded | |||
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"Nice to see all the mental health education hasn't gone to waste and that all people with bi polar are going to flip out, get violent or shout rape and judging by all the threads we've had on the subject and the amount of people on the forums that admit to suffering you've probably already met a leper whoops sorry someone with bi polar. " I couldn't have said it better myself. If anyone doesn't want to meet me because I'm bipolar - though I'm the one likely to know if I'm not well and they're in no position to decide - that's up to them. Anyone can decline for any reason, after all. The last thing I want, or will arrange, when my mood is dropping is a meet but if people want to think I'm dangerous then that's their choice. They are more likely to notice when I'm elated but that can actually make me more positive, energetic and fun to be around anyway. There are plenty more who will meet me. So, there you go people, go and update your private notes on my profile to read "Dangerous bipolar nutter, run for the hills!" | |||
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"this is really interesting,this would have never even have crossed my mind. how would you be able to even tell if someone was bi polar or not?? and forgive me maybe for the stupid question,but im totally uninformed when it comes to being bi polar. Why do you even feel that you need to know if someone has bi polar or not? " Seriously? .... I would definitely want to know that before the meet. That's just logic. Nobody is saying anyone is a "leper"...it's just called looking before you jump. | |||
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"this is really interesting,this would have never even have crossed my mind. how would you be able to even tell if someone was bi polar or not?? and forgive me maybe for the stupid question,but im totally uninformed when it comes to being bi polar. Why do you even feel that you need to know if someone has bi polar or not? It's not something thats ever crossed my mind when I've been arranging a meet People with it are not another species who have to be treated in a special way to stop them flipping out " i totally did not mean it in any type of derogatory terms at all,i wasnt on about any type of meet,i was just generally interested because of the conversation here. | |||
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"this is really interesting,this would have never even have crossed my mind. how would you be able to even tell if someone was bi polar or not?? and forgive me maybe for the stupid question,but im totally uninformed when it comes to being bi polar. Why do you even feel that you need to know if someone has bi polar or not? Seriously? .... I would definitely want to know that before the meet. That's just logic. Nobody is saying anyone is a "leper"...it's just called looking before you jump. " You can't catch it, you know. And bipolar people are far more likely to be a risk only to themselves than to anyone else. In most cases you could meet someone bipolar - possibly have - and you wouldn't have a clue. | |||
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"How would you deal with the situation , if on a meet the other person begins to go low or cycle I wouldn't KNOWINGLY meet someone who is Bi-Polar. It's highly unlikely someone is going to flip out on a meet, but it's not a risk I'd knowingly take. BECAUSE... If she DID flip out and screams the "R" word...I'm (just like any guy) is in deep shit. I'm not going to take the risk of fucking my life up over a shag. " That could happen with anyone. Look at all the stories of false rape allegations from woman who had had a few drinks and regretted it or cheated then got found out and cried rape. | |||
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"How would you deal with the situation , if on a meet the other person begins to go low or cycle ? Coming from a perspective of zero knowledge about such conditions ?good question, as you know there are many forms of bi polar, some may cycle only once or twice a year, this rarely comes on suddenly but start to go up or down over a period of time. I'm a rapid cycler to be diagnosed as a rapid cycler you need to experience four or more episodes in a year. Unfortunately for me I can have days where I constantly cycle from hour to hour and then maybe go a week with no cycle. From my personal experience your more likely to notice when I'm high rather than low, if I went low mid meet the outward signs would probably be me going very quiet and distant. Today I've suffered badly with panic attacks but that is something different and you don't have to have bi polar to have panic attacks. I used to have a sticker on my front door at eye level, if I ever needed medical assistance like an ambulance it was like a green SOS kind of thing and they would know instantly where all my details where kept which was a plastic tube kept in the fridge. Also I'm supposed to wear my SOS bracket but I tend to only wear that if I'm going somewhere strange. Anyway, unless someone is a rapid cycler I don't think you would see any great change in a matter of a couple of hours. " THIS is a really helpful and educational post. Some of the others are not. | |||
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"this is really interesting,this would have never even have crossed my mind. how would you be able to even tell if someone was bi polar or not?? and forgive me maybe for the stupid question,but im totally uninformed when it comes to being bi polar. Why do you even feel that you need to know if someone has bi polar or not? Seriously? .... I would definitely want to know that before the meet. That's just logic. Nobody is saying anyone is a "leper"...it's just called looking before you jump. " you've met me socially, did you feel you was at any kind of risk being in my company. This post has saddened me, I've always been open and honest and never hidden it from anyone but some people reading this thread may decide to keep there illness a secret. I'm fine with people not wanting to meet me but this thread feels like I've gone back 20 years in time | |||
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"this is really interesting,this would have never even have crossed my mind. how would you be able to even tell if someone was bi polar or not?? and forgive me maybe for the stupid question,but im totally uninformed when it comes to being bi polar. Why do you even feel that you need to know if someone has bi polar or not? Seriously? .... I would definitely want to know that before the meet. That's just logic. Nobody is saying anyone is a "leper"...it's just called looking before you jump. " My chin is on the floor So do you ask everyone you meet if they are bi polar? You have met me at a social,I don't recall any conversation of bi polar then or since | |||
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"It's not really helpful that people asking questions and wanting to know more about a condition they're not educated about are having their heads bitten off. I feel like curiosity and asking questions should be encouraged, that's how people become more educated about mental health issues generally and the stigma attached to them can be challenged." exactly and that's why I've always been as honest and open as I can be | |||
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"How would you deal with the situation , if on a meet the other person begins to go low or cycle I wouldn't KNOWINGLY meet someone who is Bi-Polar. It's highly unlikely someone is going to flip out on a meet, but it's not a risk I'd knowingly take. BECAUSE... If she DID flip out and screams the "R" word...I'm (just like any guy) is in deep shit. I'm not going to take the risk of fucking my life up over a shag. " What the absolute fuck? Someone bipolar is no more likely to invoke the "R word" than anyone else. | |||
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"Nice to see all the mental health education hasn't gone to waste and that all people with bi polar are going to flip out, get violent or shout rape and judging by all the threads we've had on the subject and the amount of people on the forums that admit to suffering you've probably already met a leper whoops sorry someone with bi polar. I couldn't have said it better myself. If anyone doesn't want to meet me because I'm bipolar - though I'm the one likely to know if I'm not well and they're in no position to decide - that's up to them. Anyone can decline for any reason, after all. The last thing I want, or will arrange, when my mood is dropping is a meet but if people want to think I'm dangerous then that's their choice. They are more likely to notice when I'm elated but that can actually make me more positive, energetic and fun to be around anyway. There are plenty more who will meet me. So, there you go people, go and update your private notes on my profile to read "Dangerous bipolar nutter, run for the hills!"" go girl! | |||
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"this is really interesting,this would have never even have crossed my mind. how would you be able to even tell if someone was bi polar or not?? and forgive me maybe for the stupid question,but im totally uninformed when it comes to being bi polar. Why do you even feel that you need to know if someone has bi polar or not? Seriously? .... I would definitely want to know that before the meet. That's just logic. Nobody is saying anyone is a "leper"...it's just called looking before you jump. you've met me socially, did you feel you was at any kind of risk being in my company. This post has saddened me, I've always been open and honest and never hidden it from anyone but some people reading this thread may decide to keep there illness a secret. I'm fine with people not wanting to meet me but this thread feels like I've gone back 20 years in time" Same here. That I'm apparently dangerous and likely to invoke the "R word" is hurtful beyond words. | |||
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"It's not really helpful that people asking questions and wanting to know more about a condition they're not educated about are having their heads bitten off. I feel like curiosity and asking questions should be encouraged, that's how people become more educated about mental health issues generally and the stigma attached to them can be challenged.exactly and that's why I've always been as honest and open as I can be" | |||
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"Perhaps I very very wrongly used bi polar , I wrongly it seems thought it covered a number of potential behavioral characteristics I was told by one lady I met afterwards that she was bi polar she must have lied however she went from sky high to frightening and bacK within minutes I was curious how others suggest one deal with a person whatever the name of the condition when an episode reveals itself I'm averagely intelligent and aware and certainly not ignorant to medical concepts but I don't think it unreasonable most of us would not understand such things to a depth that could be helpful ? " it is quite possible that the lady you met was bi polar and that is the way it affected her, as I said there are all different types of bipolar, but she may have already been high then it escalated. | |||
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"It's not really helpful that people asking questions and wanting to know more about a condition they're not educated about are having their heads bitten off. I feel like curiosity and asking questions should be encouraged, that's how people become more educated about mental health issues generally and the stigma attached to them can be challenged.exactly and that's why I've always been as honest and open as I can be " | |||
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"It's not really helpful that people asking questions and wanting to know more about a condition they're not educated about are having their heads bitten off. I feel like curiosity and asking questions should be encouraged, that's how people become more educated about mental health issues generally and the stigma attached to them can be challenged.exactly and that's why I've always been as honest and open as I can be" | |||
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"Perhaps I very very wrongly used bi polar , I wrongly it seems thought it covered a number of potential behavioral characteristics I was told by one lady I met afterwards that she was bi polar she must have lied however she went from sky high to frightening and bacK within minutes I was curious how others suggest one deal with a person whatever the name of the condition when an episode reveals itself I'm averagely intelligent and aware and certainly not ignorant to medical concepts but I don't think it unreasonable most of us would not understand such things to a depth that could be helpful ? " I don't think it's unreasonable, whoever you met, should have given you the heads up. Asked if you were comfortable with it, and inform you on how the condition affects them as an individual. | |||
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"How would you deal with the situation , if on a meet the other person begins to go low or cycle ? Coming from a perspective of zero knowledge about such conditions ?" Yes onset can be quite rapid, but it happens over days or weeks not minutes or hours. . . | |||
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"Perhaps I very very wrongly used bi polar , I wrongly it seems thought it covered a number of potential behavioral characteristics I was told by one lady I met afterwards that she was bi polar she must have lied however she went from sky high to frightening and bacK within minutes I was curious how others suggest one deal with a person whatever the name of the condition when an episode reveals itself I'm averagely intelligent and aware and certainly not ignorant to medical concepts but I don't think it unreasonable most of us would not understand such things to a depth that could be helpful ? I don't think it's unreasonable, whoever you met, should have given you the heads up. Asked if you were comfortable with it, and inform you on how the condition affects them as an individual. " She may not have had a condition, it could have been a reaction to something else entirely. She may have been undiagnosed. She may have just had her meds changed and had no idea there might be a problem. She may never have had an episode before. I doubt if she knew there was a serious risk of such an episode that she'd have arranged a meet. | |||
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"It's not really helpful that people asking questions and wanting to know more about a condition they're not educated about are having their heads bitten off. I feel like curiosity and asking questions should be encouraged, that's how people become more educated about mental health issues generally and the stigma attached to them can be challenged." thankyou,i didnt think asking an innocent question deserved that response,i work in mental health which is why i asked. | |||
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"I don't know a lot about the subject. But I'd be clueless in that situation. I'm out now." so why not stay and read the thread and become a little less clueless | |||
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"I don't know a lot about the subject. But I'd be clueless in that situation. I'm out now.so why not stay and read the thread and become a little less clueless" Too many of us dangerous nutters in here now | |||
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"Perhaps I very very wrongly used bi polar , I wrongly it seems thought it covered a number of potential behavioral characteristics I was told by one lady I met afterwards that she was bi polar she must have lied however she went from sky high to frightening and bacK within minutes I was curious how others suggest one deal with a person whatever the name of the condition when an episode reveals itself I'm averagely intelligent and aware and certainly not ignorant to medical concepts but I don't think it unreasonable most of us would not understand such things to a depth that could be helpful ? it is quite possible that the lady you met was bi polar and that is the way it affected her, as I said there are all different types of bipolar, but she may have already been high then it escalated. " It was my understanding it manifests itself in a multitude of ways x My intention was not to demonise any person with any condition or request they inform , it was an open question on if an negative episode occurs to any of us how best to deal with the situation Knowing we have fab members who do deal with their condition I was hoping for and expecting their informed responses ? | |||
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"How would you deal with the situation , if on a meet the other person begins to go low or cycle I wouldn't KNOWINGLY meet someone who is Bi-Polar. It's highly unlikely someone is going to flip out on a meet, but it's not a risk I'd knowingly take. BECAUSE... If she DID flip out and screams the "R" word...I'm (just like any guy) is in deep shit. I'm not going to take the risk of fucking my life up over a shag. " | |||
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"Perhaps I very very wrongly used bi polar , I wrongly it seems thought it covered a number of potential behavioral characteristics I was told by one lady I met afterwards that she was bi polar she must have lied however she went from sky high to frightening and bacK within minutes I was curious how others suggest one deal with a person whatever the name of the condition when an episode reveals itself I'm averagely intelligent and aware and certainly not ignorant to medical concepts but I don't think it unreasonable most of us would not understand such things to a depth that could be helpful ? it is quite possible that the lady you met was bi polar and that is the way it affected her, as I said there are all different types of bipolar, but she may have already been high then it escalated. It was my understanding it manifests itself in a multitude of ways x My intention was not to demonise any person with any condition or request they inform , it was an open question on if an negative episode occurs to any of us how best to deal with the situation Knowing we have fab members who do deal with their condition I was hoping for and expecting their informed responses ?" If you're uncomfortable, for any reason, mental health related or not, end the meet, nicely, and leave. If the person needs medical attention or is a risk to themself call an ambulance or the appropriate emergency service. It might be nice to stay until help arrives but that's your call. | |||
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"so what is the answer..... if you are in the company of a total stranger, you start to feel unwell: do you want them to stay with you, can you gauge how long you would be feeling unwell, would staying cause any embaressment to both parties. is there really right or wrong answer as it will be different in every situation, leaving with dignity and appropriateness is okay in my book. and that is what I would do. now if I knew them better and classed them more than a stranger, now that MAY be different" I can only answer this from my perspective, as you know my illness is pretty severe, it is very rarely I am out with just complete strangers, usually I have points of contact, but if I was I understand my illness and what would be the best thing to do at that time which I really can't answer as different things would work depending on how I was feeling. | |||
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"Perhaps I very very wrongly used bi polar , I wrongly it seems thought it covered a number of potential behavioral characteristics I was told by one lady I met afterwards that she was bi polar she must have lied however she went from sky high to frightening and bacK within minutes I was curious how others suggest one deal with a person whatever the name of the condition when an episode reveals itself I'm averagely intelligent and aware and certainly not ignorant to medical concepts but I don't think it unreasonable most of us would not understand such things to a depth that could be helpful ? I don't think it's unreasonable, whoever you met, should have given you the heads up. Asked if you were comfortable with it, and inform you on how the condition affects them as an individual. She may not have had a condition, it could have been a reaction to something else entirely. She may have been undiagnosed. She may have just had her meds changed and had no idea there might be a problem. She may never have had an episode before. I doubt if she knew there was a serious risk of such an episode that she'd have arranged a meet." Don't read other people's posts and overlay their thoughts onto my posts please I did not condemn her or criticise x I illustrated such things happen and politely questioned what one night do ! | |||
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"Most people never know if any one is bi polar,depressed,psychotic or as any mental health problem I'm bi polar and no one ever knew unless I told them if I'm down I don't meet people most think I'm just hypo and I have never caused and issue on a meet or cried rape and any one can flip out ppl need to stop being narrow minded after all its not a dating site " a woman with balls!! sexiest most beautiful woman i ever will meet was bi polar great person and she told me 20mins after we met abt her condition they are not parasites their vulmerable people who get horny like everyone else | |||
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"Perhaps I very very wrongly used bi polar , I wrongly it seems thought it covered a number of potential behavioral characteristics I was told by one lady I met afterwards that she was bi polar she must have lied however she went from sky high to frightening and bacK within minutes I was curious how others suggest one deal with a person whatever the name of the condition when an episode reveals itself I'm averagely intelligent and aware and certainly not ignorant to medical concepts but I don't think it unreasonable most of us would not understand such things to a depth that could be helpful ? I don't think it's unreasonable, whoever you met, should have given you the heads up. Asked if you were comfortable with it, and inform you on how the condition affects them as an individual. She may not have had a condition, it could have been a reaction to something else entirely. She may have been undiagnosed. She may have just had her meds changed and had no idea there might be a problem. She may never have had an episode before. I doubt if she knew there was a serious risk of such an episode that she'd have arranged a meet. Don't read other people's posts and overlay their thoughts onto my posts please I did not condemn her or criticise x I illustrated such things happen and politely questioned what one night do !" And that post was to the poster of the post I quoted, not you. He thinks she should have told you. I'm pointing out there are a lot of reasons why she might nit have been able to. Like she didn't know. You started this thread but it is permissible to respond to others commenting on it. | |||
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"so what is the answer..... if you are in the company of a total stranger, you start to feel unwell: do you want them to stay with you, can you gauge how long you would be feeling unwell, would staying cause any embaressment to both parties. is there really right or wrong answer as it will be different in every situation, leaving with dignity and appropriateness is okay in my book. and that is what I would do. now if I knew them better and classed them more than a stranger, now that MAY be differentI can only answer this from my perspective, as you know my illness is pretty severe, it is very rarely I am out with just complete strangers, usually I have points of contact, but if I was I understand my illness and what would be the best thing to do at that time which I really can't answer as different things would work depending on how I was feeling." but you own yours more than anyone i know, so I doubt you would put yourself in the situation. Of course, never say never. | |||
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"so what is the answer..... if you are in the company of a total stranger, you start to feel unwell: do you want them to stay with you, can you gauge how long you would be feeling unwell, would staying cause any embaressment to both parties. is there really right or wrong answer as it will be different in every situation, leaving with dignity and appropriateness is okay in my book. and that is what I would do. now if I knew them better and classed them more than a stranger, now that MAY be differentI can only answer this from my perspective, as you know my illness is pretty severe, it is very rarely I am out with just complete strangers, usually I have points of contact, but if I was I understand my illness and what would be the best thing to do at that time which I really can't answer as different things would work depending on how I was feeling. but you own yours more than anyone i know, so I doubt you would put yourself in the situation. Of course, never say never." I do and its up to the individual no matter what illness mental or otherwise to understand and work with it as best they can | |||
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"so what is the answer..... if you are in the company of a total stranger, you start to feel unwell: do you want them to stay with you, can you gauge how long you would be feeling unwell, would staying cause any embaressment to both parties. is there really right or wrong answer as it will be different in every situation, leaving with dignity and appropriateness is okay in my book. and that is what I would do. now if I knew them better and classed them more than a stranger, now that MAY be differentI can only answer this from my perspective, as you know my illness is pretty severe, it is very rarely I am out with just complete strangers, usually I have points of contact, but if I was I understand my illness and what would be the best thing to do at that time which I really can't answer as different things would work depending on how I was feeling. but you own yours more than anyone i know, so I doubt you would put yourself in the situation. Of course, never say never.I do and its up to the individual no matter what illness mental or otherwise to understand and work with it as best they can" | |||
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"It's not really helpful that people asking questions and wanting to know more about a condition they're not educated about are having their heads bitten off. I feel like curiosity and asking questions should be encouraged, that's how people become more educated about mental health issues generally and the stigma attached to them can be challenged." this.. on a thread about this particular where there have been some very honest posts by those who have this condition its inevitable that others will be curious.. slapping people down who are genuinely curious doesn't serve to get the message out there that we all need to be more aware .. | |||
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"and I will say on this thread, the very same I say on other ones... I personally think people share too many of their vulnerabilities on here. Perish the thought they would be in the company of someone who would use any moment of vulnerability for their own gain.... " I do agree with you _iew but I also think that people still need to be educated as this thread proves. I'm pretty savvy and astute and thankfully have never had anyone take advantage, but as you say never say never | |||
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"and I will say on this thread, the very same I say on other ones... I personally think people share too many of their vulnerabilities on here. Perish the thought they would be in the company of someone who would use any moment of vulnerability for their own gain.... I do agree with you _iew but I also think that people still need to be educated as this thread proves. I'm pretty savvy and astute and thankfully have never had anyone take advantage, but as you say never say never" very true | |||
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"Nice to see all the mental health education hasn't gone to waste and that all people with bi polar are going to flip out, get violent or shout rape and judging by all the threads we've had on the subject and the amount of people on the forums that admit to suffering you've probably already met a leper whoops sorry someone with bi polar. I couldn't have said it better myself. If anyone doesn't want to meet me because I'm bipolar - though I'm the one likely to know if I'm not well and they're in no position to decide - that's up to them. Anyone can decline for any reason, after all. The last thing I want, or will arrange, when my mood is dropping is a meet but if people want to think I'm dangerous then that's their choice. They are more likely to notice when I'm elated but that can actually make me more positive, energetic and fun to be around anyway. There are plenty more who will meet me. So, there you go people, go and update your private notes on my profile to read "Dangerous bipolar nutter, run for the hills!"" Hear hear! Im undiagnosed bipolar and i no my moods and can recognize if im heading for a low. The last thing i want then is to get out of my bed let alown leave the house. Plus i no how difficult it can be for other people to deal with so i wouldn't put other people thro on of my lows xxx | |||
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"and I will say on this thread, the very same I say on other ones... I personally think people share too many of their vulnerabilities on here. Perish the thought they would be in the company of someone who would use any moment of vulnerability for their own gain.... " I agree but unless people speak up about it, mental health will still be stigmatised and spoken of in hushed tones. Some of the misconceptions and opinions are staggering and make me sad. | |||
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"and I will say on this thread, the very same I say on other ones... I personally think people share too many of their vulnerabilities on here. Perish the thought they would be in the company of someone who would use any moment of vulnerability for their own gain.... I agree but unless people speak up about it, mental health will still be stigmatised and spoken of in hushed tones. Some of the misconceptions and opinions are staggering and make me sad." I only know 2 people who are bi polar and both are male and both can be violent..but I am no means trying to tar all bi polar people with the same brush as I don't know much about this infliction and I am sorry if I have offended anyone..its just that it has made me a bit wary and I am most likely wrong | |||
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"and I will say on this thread, the very same I say on other ones... I personally think people share too many of their vulnerabilities on here. Perish the thought they would be in the company of someone who would use any moment of vulnerability for their own gain.... I agree but unless people speak up about it, mental health will still be stigmatised and spoken of in hushed tones. Some of the misconceptions and opinions are staggering and make me sad. I only know 2 people who are bi polar and both are male and both can be violent..but I am no means trying to tar all bi polar people with the same brush as I don't know much about this infliction and I am sorry if I have offended anyone..its just that it has made me a bit wary and I am most likely wrong" You probably know more than two without having any idea that you do. Many are well managed with medication and other treatment techniques to the extent you wouldn't be able to tell. | |||
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"and I will say on this thread, the very same I say on other ones... I personally think people share too many of their vulnerabilities on here. Perish the thought they would be in the company of someone who would use any moment of vulnerability for their own gain.... I agree but unless people speak up about it, mental health will still be stigmatised and spoken of in hushed tones. Some of the misconceptions and opinions are staggering and make me sad. I only know 2 people who are bi polar and both are male and both can be violent..but I am no means trying to tar all bi polar people with the same brush as I don't know much about this infliction and I am sorry if I have offended anyone..its just that it has made me a bit wary and I am most likely wrong" I'm not offended but hope you've learnt something from this thread | |||
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" I agree but unless people speak up about it, mental health will still be stigmatised and spoken of in hushed tones. Some of the misconceptions and opinions are staggering and make me sad." Misconceptions or offensive opinions should be challenged. But people shouldn't be shot down for asking questions. It might all seem obvious to you if you suffer from bi-polar, because you live with it everyday. Others don't, and if they want to understand more about it I think that should be encouraged. | |||
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" I agree but unless people speak up about it, mental health will still be stigmatised and spoken of in hushed tones. Some of the misconceptions and opinions are staggering and make me sad. Misconceptions or offensive opinions should be challenged. But people shouldn't be shot down for asking questions. It might all seem obvious to you if you suffer from bi-polar, because you live with it everyday. Others don't, and if they want to understand more about it I think that should be encouraged. " Where did I shoot down anyone for asking a question? | |||
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"How would you deal with the situation , if on a meet the other person begins to go low or cycle ? Coming from a perspective of zero knowledge about such conditions ?" Is this a concern or??? | |||
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" you've met me socially, did you feel you was at any kind of risk being in my company. " I did. You kept kissing people | |||
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" you've met me socially, did you feel you was at any kind of risk being in my company. I did. You kept kissing people " lol did I as long as they kissed me back | |||
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"Nice to see all the mental health education hasn't gone to waste and that all people with bi polar are going to flip out, get violent or shout rape and judging by all the threads we've had on the subject and the amount of people on the forums that admit to suffering you've probably already met a leper whoops sorry someone with bi polar. " Thank you for highlighting this, how sad and ignorant that bi polar is seen in that light! I have a close friend with bi polar I have never seen her "flip out" ever in 7 years that I've known her, there are different types and levels of bi polar, it's an illness you may not even know someone has it unless they told you! | |||
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"How would you deal with the situation , if on a meet the other person begins to go low or cycle ? Coming from a perspective of zero knowledge about such conditions ?" . I love people who cycle to meets. People who go low are even better | |||
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"My dad was bipolar and one of my very best female friends has the condition. Two of the funniest, kindest, most sensitive, loving, intelligent, caring humans you could possibly hope to meet. Those equating bipolarity with risk of violence might do well to head into their local town/city centre right now and look at the behaviour of the (mainly non-bipolar) people out and about. If I had the choice of any woman on here and the one I picked told me she was bipolar, it wouldn't change my decision. " | |||
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"As someone who is uneducated about bipolar I am reading this thread in the hope of learning something. So far I gather that most people diagnosed bipolar will know what “stage” they are in and how best to cope with their situation. I then read “If the person needs medical attention or is a risk to themself call an ambulance or the appropriate emergency service. It might be nice to stay until help arrives but that's your call.” Are there instances when such emergency help is required or is it a situation as with most epileptic episodes that the sufferer would rather an ambulance was not called as they will recover shortly (often before an ambulance could arrive)? Feeling they would rather not have to explain to the crew why they did not want to go into hospital. " Sometimes when people are in the downward phase of bipolar then they may self harm or perhaps do worse. In this instance the best thing to do would be A&E (unless they are regular self harmer in which case they probably wouldn't need it) If in doubt always A&E better taking them to a safe place where items to hurt themselves with are restricted. | |||
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"My dad was bipolar and one of my very best female friends has the condition. Two of the funniest, kindest, most sensitive, loving, intelligent, caring humans you could possibly hope to meet. Those equating bipolarity with risk of violence might do well to head into their local town/city centre right now and look at the behaviour of the (mainly non-bipolar) people out and about. If I had the choice of any woman on here and the one I picked told me she was bipolar, it wouldn't change my decision. " I've read a lot of this, nearly all of this forum post. I won't quote some of the things I've read, I do genuinely believe that alot of people write words without truly understand the power of what they are saying. I suffer bi polar and have done most of my life. Do I need to disclose this to anyone at all? I don't feel I do, bi polar is a label trying to define an illness but the one size clearly does not fit all. If you actually _iew the symptoms and remove the label you can get a clear picture of the person someone wants to avoid (as what I believe some are trying to convey here, the so called crazies), two people who have been labelled bi polar are not the same thing, they may share symptoms of course. It's the same as a cold and flu, they are different and share symptoms but they are not the same thing despite the idiot who things they are. One thing that has been offensive to read and it's what got my back up too, some people on here seem to think bi polar=crazy. I think that's truly unfair but ignorance like that exists everywhere and im not bashing anyone, reading that should be a good prompt for a rethink to those people. I live a normal life, raise my child cause no harm to anyone and have kept a job since I was 16 with no gaps but im bi polar. I just don't see why a shag needs to know whether I'm bi polar or not, I'm no harm and in fact I'd say it makes me sensitive and thoughtful to a person other then myself, I tend to feel a lot of empathy. And this goes in normal life, you know I go for a job and I have to declare it, if I do I don't get the job if I don't im with holding information the company could use against me. Attitudes don't seem to change in the outside fabswingers world and it's not ignorance it's because the term bi polar with crazy. The shit think is it only labels symptoms together and doesn't in my eyes help things, it's a stick to be beaten with and to have to fess up to and self deprecate like we somehow have less worth | |||
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"As someone who is uneducated about bipolar I am reading this thread in the hope of learning something. So far I gather that most people diagnosed bipolar will know what “stage” they are in and how best to cope with their situation. I then read “If the person needs medical attention or is a risk to themself call an ambulance or the appropriate emergency service. It might be nice to stay until help arrives but that's your call.” Are there instances when such emergency help is required or is it a situation as with most epileptic episodes that the sufferer would rather an ambulance was not called as they will recover shortly (often before an ambulance could arrive)? Feeling they would rather not have to explain to the crew why they did not want to go into hospital. " It's as with most things - not an exact science. Common sense/compassion. Keep in mind ANY one of us can be affected at any time, be it through knowing a sufferer or suffering ourselves S x | |||
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"Just my thoughts here but, when bipolar was known as manic depression, there seemed to be much less hype and less misunderstanding. Now we're labelled as bipolar (yes, I am bipolar myself) some people think we're crazy. Bipolar covers a huge array of symptoms and, as has been pointed out, no two people with the condition are the same - their symptoms and treatment will be totally different. To the OP: As someone said, it's your call, but PLEASE don't be scared. A&E is probably your best bet, but there are also 24/7 mental health charities with crisis lines. Anyone can call them for advice, even 'regular' human beings Two that spring to mind are Rethink Mental Illness and Mind, but there are more. It's rare that I would ever challenge anyone on a forum (I hate confrontation) but, to the person who brought up false allegations of rape - disgusting thought to have let alone say! Oh, and just my thoughts on this: you can be raped when you suffer with a mental illness, not all us crazies scream it for fun! That's not to say it doesn't happen, but you're just as likely to hear it from average Joanne Bloggs as you are from a person with mental health issues. I shall step down now Mrs" And bang on about the re-labelling of S x | |||
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"How would you deal with the situation , if on a meet the other person begins to go low or cycle ? Coming from a perspective of zero knowledge about such conditions ?" We just would not consider having sex with a half gay white bear | |||
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"Just my thoughts here but, when bipolar was known as manic depression, there seemed to be much less hype and less misunderstanding. Now we're labelled as bipolar (yes, I am bipolar myself) some people think we're crazy. Bipolar covers a huge array of symptoms and, as has been pointed out, no two people with the condition are the same - their symptoms and treatment will be totally different. To the OP: As someone said, it's your call, but PLEASE don't be scared. A&E is probably your best bet, but there are also 24/7 mental health charities with crisis lines. Anyone can call them for advice, even 'regular' human beings Two that spring to mind are Rethink Mental Illness and Mind, but there are more. It's rare that I would ever challenge anyone on a forum (I hate confrontation) but, to the person who brought up false allegations of rape - disgusting thought to have let alone say! Oh, and just my thoughts on this: you can be raped when you suffer with a mental illness, not all us crazies scream it for fun! That's not to say it doesn't happen, but you're just as likely to hear it from average Joanne Bloggs as you are from a person with mental health issues. I shall step down now Mrs" Well said. Some of the things are very offensive what have been said. Even if people don't realise it, the written word can be a blunt tool to tarnish with and if you're trying to convey a point or message I'd say use the words very pin point else it's not going to be understood what you mean, on an emotive subject sadly it's more likely to be taken wrong then the chances of someone having a bi polar swing from hyper mania to extreme low on a meet. It's a stigma people are actually battling on top of an illness. I do applaud people that have been balanced on this one. | |||
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