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"After doing some not so sane things once upon a time. I find talking to people helps me a lot now and doing things I genuinely enjoy " Tried the not so sane which did turn out quite rewarding, Your right about talking though, it does help if you find an ear, Can be hard though, specially when the weather is shit as well, hope you recover asap though so you can have many yrs of happiness with no Clouds | |||
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"I try to keep busy working on the computer or playing pool, both seem to work whilst i'm doing them..." I find work is good, thinks its an escape from the norm, Playing pool,, omg,, not done that since 1984,, yeh that's when the balls where made from sawdust and the felt was pigskin,,,, Only one pub with table in my town left, gone are the days of Monday pool night | |||
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"Nice one tiger,, never tried golf, fishing, bike riding and forever changing house around, oh and I do find myself at work far to much, as well as single malts, But then from time to time I can easily spent 2 or 3 days in bed sleeping, As much as I've learned to live with it somedays I f"#%*{g hate it, Thanks For The reply And good luck and all the best for the future " Sounds *gay* but knitting, helps me focus and concentrate on one particular thing. Also getting a nice scarf | |||
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"Suffered for a long time after getting meningitis and developing an eating disorder. The gym crushed all of my negative thoughts. I feel great everyday now " | |||
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"Not being a negative shitter but !!! Lol I've lived with the above for 5 yrs and I've got some of my own technics to cope, What helps you??? Oh and if r u a none sufferer then jog on and don't comment, " Well done sir on getting this subject out there. It's good to see everyone treating it with respect too. Pats on backs people. | |||
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"My dad died suddenly a while back and it hit me hard. I've learned to slow down, take less pressure, more exercise and rest. Grieving's a little different to typical depression but I accept it and allow some pain through in drifts. I expect not everyone to understand, especially the meet now, fancy a fuck types on fab. I also give myself regular treats. As I'm single there's no partner doing this, so I've taken that responsibility. Finally as a playful person i make fun and laugh as much as possible." | |||
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"Googling "depression and inflammation" will bring up loads of information and much of it is very, very recent. Here's a start: http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jan/04/depression-allergic-reaction-inflammation-immune-system http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/dec/20/anti-inflammatory-drugs-could-fight-depression-immune-disorders So stick that to the nay sayers who claim it's mental weakness, imagined and all the rest and people should pull themselves together." Thanks VV, interesting to see this as I think that's part my prob!! | |||
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"Googling "depression and inflammation" will bring up loads of information and much of it is very, very recent. Here's a start: http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jan/04/depression-allergic-reaction-inflammation-immune-system http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/dec/20/anti-inflammatory-drugs-could-fight-depression-immune-disorders So stick that to the nay sayers who claim it's mental weakness, imagined and all the rest and people should pull themselves together." I have lupus, an autoimmune inflammatory disease. The discourse has always been that your depression is because you are ill (not causing it physically but because it's difficult to suddenly find yourself unable to walk etc.). I have had some level of depression since I was about ten and although my lupus didn't fully activate until I was 26 I always suffered with "growing" pains (I know!) and migraines as a child. Both linked to inflammation. The antidepressants help so I take them. I do what I can to mitigate and manage what I am feeling and experiencing. To the person who posted about those in our lives, they are true unsung heroes. I would not be here without the love and care of people around me. | |||
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"Googling "depression and inflammation" will bring up loads of information and much of it is very, very recent. Here's a start: http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/jan/04/depression-allergic-reaction-inflammation-immune-system http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/dec/20/anti-inflammatory-drugs-could-fight-depression-immune-disorders So stick that to the nay sayers who claim it's mental weakness, imagined and all the rest and people should pull themselves together. I have lupus, an autoimmune inflammatory disease. The discourse has always been that your depression is because you are ill (not causing it physically but because it's difficult to suddenly find yourself unable to walk etc.). I have had some level of depression since I was about ten and although my lupus didn't fully activate until I was 26 I always suffered with "growing" pains (I know!) and migraines as a child. Both linked to inflammation. The antidepressants help so I take them. I do what I can to mitigate and manage what I am feeling and experiencing. To the person who posted about those in our lives, they are true unsung heroes. I would not be here without the love and care of people around me. " Well there you go. The depression may be physically caused by the inflammation as well as merely resulting from the effects of the inflammation on your life. It looks like this research could lead to some new treatment options. | |||
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" Decluttering your surroundings and keeping things organised. ." Thanks VV, this ^^ is probably the most useful comment I've read on here. Something so obvious that I've overlooked it until it was written in black & white. x | |||
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"Sex helps though. Maybe the rush of adrenaline or physical contact helps " Both help | |||
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" Decluttering your surroundings and keeping things organised. . Thanks VV, this ^^ is probably the most useful comment I've read on here. Something so obvious that I've overlooked it until it was written in black & white. x" This is what I did on Wednesday when I was feeling low and had zero motivation I blasted music and felt loads better | |||
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"I wish the music thing worked for me. Noise makes me feel edgy and irritable,I have to have silence " I used to have Sunday as a totally silent day in order to get through the week. It kept me going at the time but didn't lift my mood. We all do what works for us. | |||
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"I wish the music thing worked for me. Noise makes me feel edgy and irritable,I have to have silence " I think it'll be about 20 years before i have some silence !! I'll have to learn to enjoy silence but there's no chance of that anytime soon | |||
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"Any ladies get pms related depression? I am perfectly fine for a week out of 3 then he 5-6 days leading to my period the fog descends and I can fall into myself, some months I feel really sad and down then others I feel stressed and ratty then others I can be angry and shouty then it makes me feel guilty for shouting and the kids fee the wrath especially my 10 year old and then the guilt makes me feel awful and it just never ends. I have tried talking to people but no one seems to understand and i don't know how to approach the Doctor about this.... Any women who are in a similar boat I'll lift my filter if anyone has any useful info or ideas " You can speak to doctor about this as it's really very common. I know you may not want to but it's usually helpful! I had horrific PMS years ago and it was made worse by the pill I was on. Literally my ex wouldn't speak to me in the few days leading up. Changed pill and it got better hope you get some relief from it | |||
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"I wish the music thing worked for me. Noise makes me feel edgy and irritable,I have to have silence I think it'll be about 20 years before i have some silence !! I'll have to learn to enjoy silence but there's no chance of that anytime soon " When I'm here alone I have everything off usually. I do the housework in silence apart from the vacuum cleaner. It's pretty quiet around here. I only put soothing music on when I cook | |||
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"My dad died suddenly a while back and it hit me hard. I've learned to slow down, take less pressure, more exercise and rest. Grieving's a little different to typical depression but I accept it and allow some pain through in drifts. I expect not everyone to understand, especially the meet now, fancy a fuck types on fab. I also give myself regular treats. As I'm single there's no partner doing this, so I've taken that responsibility. Finally as a playful person i make fun and laugh as much as possible." Exactly. My life turned round with CUT. It taught me to think about traumatic past events in a more positive way. The realisation that an attempted rape was dragging me down 30 years after the event. Finally I'm able to talk about it's is no longer a negative event. Actually, fucking dozens of guys last year exorcised my distrust of men. It was a eureka moment to discover that very few of you are violent. I wish I'd done it earlier! I've become selfish: making time for myself. I soak in the bath for hours I'd that's what I fancy, see as much of my fb as I can, walk for miles with my dogs where I meet my canine friends and their keepers lol. Like minded people put everything into perspective. The final piece of the jigsaw was leaving my very stressful job a year ago. So I'm poor but happier than I have ever been. That said I'll have to stay on sertraline for the rest of my life. My parents mentally abused me for so many years it's hard not to slip into negativity sometimes. How you cope with those negative thoughts is the key to stop the cycle. But most of all, be kind to yourself, take time to do the things that used to be fun ... For me that includes resurrecting my slurry personality, repressed for so many years. Look after yourselves and do something positive right now xxx | |||
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"Any ladies get pms related depression? I am perfectly fine for a week out of 3 then he 5-6 days leading to my period the fog descends and I can fall into myself, some months I feel really sad and down then others I feel stressed and ratty then others I can be angry and shouty then it makes me feel guilty for shouting and the kids fee the wrath especially my 10 year old and then the guilt makes me feel awful and it just never ends. Well I had my tubes tied in 2011 so I don't think theyll give me the pill. It's affecting my relationships with my closest friends as I don't want them round me when I'm feeling like this I have tried talking to people but no one seems to understand and i don't know how to approach the Doctor about this.... Any women who are in a similar boat I'll lift my filter if anyone has any useful info or ideas You can speak to doctor about this as it's really very common. I know you may not want to but it's usually helpful! I had horrific PMS years ago and it was made worse by the pill I was on. Literally my ex wouldn't speak to me in the few days leading up. Changed pill and it got better hope you get some relief from it " | |||
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"My dad died suddenly a while back and it hit me hard. I've learned to slow down, take less pressure, more exercise and rest. Grieving's a little different to typical depression but I accept it and allow some pain through in drifts. I expect not everyone to understand, especially the meet now, fancy a fuck types on fab. I also give myself regular treats. As I'm single there's no partner doing this, so I've taken that responsibility. Finally as a playful person i make fun and laugh as much as possible." My Dad died and it hit me for six too ..... and I was very very low for almost two years we was very close I could not see a life without him as around me so much a big part of my life . I Never felt nothing like that in my life until then .. Was like being in a very dark hole and I could not get out just getting up was too much I was screaming inside and only I could hear it. Things that helped me was positive thinking and knowing we pick what to think ... so I would stop myself if I could and read things about how to think positive and know my dad would not wish me to be unhappy. Part of me died with him but I look for joy in my family and animals and things around me as I know I am the thinker in this and I have control of that . | |||
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"I wish the music thing worked for me. Noise makes me feel edgy and irritable,I have to have silence I think it'll be about 20 years before i have some silence !! I'll have to learn to enjoy silence but there's no chance of that anytime soon " Silence is golden. Duck tape is silver | |||
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"I wish the music thing worked for me. Noise makes me feel edgy and irritable,I have to have silence I think it'll be about 20 years before i have some silence !! I'll have to learn to enjoy silence but there's no chance of that anytime soon Silence is golden. Duck tape is silver " Hhhmmmmm now here's an idea, Dya reckon I'll get away with it on 10 year old 2 6 year olds and a 3 lol | |||
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"Not being a negative shitter but !!! Lol I've lived with the above for 5 yrs and I've got some of my own technics to cope, What helps you??? Oh and if r u a none sufferer then jog on and don't comment, Well done sir on getting this subject out there. It's good to see everyone treating it with respect too. Pats on backs people. " There's actually been a few threads on depression/anxiety over the years - well worth searching then out. This is a welcome addition of course. OP - I don't mean to be critical but your comment about people without depression "jogging on" worries me a lot. People who don't have it can contribute too and it's vitally important they feel involved as understanding of this needs to grow. I don't think it helps paint a good picture tbh. If I've misinterpreted what you say I sincerely apologise. | |||
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"I feel for anyone who does suffer from depression, tablets from the Doctor can help but try to make it a short term thing don't begin to rely on tablets. Best of luck everyone and don't suffer in silence there is help out there" Not 'relying' on tablets is easier said than done. I'm on them for life as I'm bipolar and no amount of exercise, pool playing, golfing, etc. is going to help keep me out of the dark side. It's a chemical imbalance, and I need to be balanced with drugs. Believe me, I have tried life without them - it doesn't work for me. That said, a lot depressives do find exercise and the like helpful - that's great. I'm just pointing out that for some of us, it just doesn't cut the mustard Mrs | |||
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"Today is a bad day for me, I woke up having a panic attack, and still having it, the earthquake has triggered them of cause it scared me so much. I dropped a cup of coffee all over the kitchen floor which has made it worse. I'm sat here in silence trying to do my breathing and posting to try and take my mind of it. I feel like I just want to run and run but can't move. I can't swallow or stop shaking. I know I've got to get my act together as I've got something really nice to look forward to later, but after nearly 40 years i still have no control over when I'm going to have a panic attack. I don't usually post how I'm feeling at the time I usually concentrate on the positives" I understand and sympathise K. I suffer with anxiety terribly and do get panic attacks. I find its best to accept the situation. It will pass. | |||
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"I feel for anyone who does suffer from depression, tablets from the Doctor can help but try to make it a short term thing don't begin to rely on tablets." This is pants advice. It depends on the cause of the depression. Some people can get over depression or find other methods of treating it that are sufficiently effective that they no longer need medication. Some people have depression, or other mental health problems, that are the result of a physical problem and will need medication long-term, possibly for the rest of their lives. By all means people should look for other ways to relieve the symptoms and address any issues but there is no reason not to take medication long term in order to treat what is fundamentally just another illness, if that is what is necessary. As per the links I posted above, depression could well be the result of actual physical illness and not just in the head as some people think. People should take medication if they need to and for as long as they need to. | |||
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"I feel for anyone who does suffer from depression, tablets from the Doctor can help but try to make it a short term thing don't begin to rely on tablets. This is pants advice. It depends on the cause of the depression. Some people can get over depression or find other methods of treating it that are sufficiently effective that they no longer need medication. Some people have depression, or other mental health problems, that are the result of a physical problem and will need medication long-term, possibly for the rest of their lives. By all means people should look for other ways to relieve the symptoms and address any issues but there is no reason not to take medication long term in order to treat what is fundamentally just another illness, if that is what is necessary. As per the links I posted above, depression could well be the result of actual physical illness and not just in the head as some people think. People should take medication if they need to and for as long as they need to." | |||
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"I feel for anyone who does suffer from depression, tablets from the Doctor can help but try to make it a short term thing don't begin to rely on tablets. This is pants advice. It depends on the cause of the depression. Some people can get over depression or find other methods of treating it that are sufficiently effective that they no longer need medication. Some people have depression, or other mental health problems, that are the result of a physical problem and will need medication long-term, possibly for the rest of their lives. By all means people should look for other ways to relieve the symptoms and address any issues but there is no reason not to take medication long term in order to treat what is fundamentally just another illness, if that is what is necessary. As per the links I posted above, depression could well be the result of actual physical illness and not just in the head as some people think. People should take medication if they need to and for as long as they need to." 16 years I have been taking mine. I wouldn't be here without them any more than a diabetic would survive without insulin | |||
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"Today is a bad day for me, I woke up having a panic attack, and still having it, the earthquake has triggered them of cause it scared me so much. I dropped a cup of coffee all over the kitchen floor which has made it worse. I'm sat here in silence trying to do my breathing and posting to try and take my mind of it. I feel like I just want to run and run but can't move. I can't swallow or stop shaking. I know I've got to get my act together as I've got something really nice to look forward to later, but after nearly 40 years i still have no control over when I'm going to have a panic attack. I don't usually post how I'm feeling at the time I usually concentrate on the positives" That's the thing with panic attacks, no one has any control over when they will strike. I used to pass out from them in the pub I worked in. Quite embarrassing. I realised I wasn't happy there anymore and got out. Now I get the odd one or two panic attacks. The worst, I find, is when I'm driving along somewhere familiar but I have no idea where I am! I just keep driving till I recognise something The best way for me to deal with panic attacks is to recognise them for what they are. Then I think to myself, "oh, here we go again. I'll be alright in a bit." Not being frightened of them helps me through. Good luck. Mrs | |||
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"16 years I have been taking mine. I wouldn't be here without them any more than a diabetic would survive without insulin " I've been on and off them since my teens with more on that off. It's likely I'll need to be on medication for the rest of my life but I take it as it comes. I wouldn't be here without medication either. | |||
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"I was never tested for those the levels of the chemicals and nor has anyone else I've ever met." It's not possible to test for depression. Diagnosis is based on observation and responses. | |||
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"I can see that my problems are currently down to a decision over my career that has backfired badly and loneliness compounded by powerful unrequited love for someone. I have thoughts if ending it all, but if I could sort the job issue and that woman suddenly decided she loved me, I would be the happiest guy around. I guess I'm saying that the difference between situational depression/anxiety and the "real" condition described by done here." Situational problems can cause an increase in other hormones, cortisol for example, which throw off the balance of everything else. Sometimes it takes medication to bring the balance back to enable someone to seek other coping strategies and to look for ways to resolve their problem or deal with the stress and anxiety. Situational problems can cause chemical imbalances which are just the same as those in the "real" condition. It can take a long time to re-establish the balance sometimes. | |||
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"It's undeniably true that many people need to take medication and there is an underlying imbalance there. I do think that tablets are dished out to people who would be better off seeking other alternatives such as exercise and various therapies. I was put on them and got it in my head I had a chemical imbalance. I guess it was possible I did, but the bottom line is I was never tested for those the levels of the chemicals and nor has anyone else I've ever met. I'm suffering terribly with anxiety at the moment and depression has crept in for the first time in years. I'll be honest and say I was in such a state I phoned the Samaritans the other day. However, in my calmer moments I can see that my problems are currently down to a decision over my career that has backfired badly and loneliness compounded by powerful unrequited love for someone. I have thoughts if ending it all, but if I could sort the job issue and that woman suddenly decided she loved me, I would be the happiest guy around. I guess I'm saying that the difference between situational depression/anxiety and the "real" condition described by done here. For me, the side effects of the tablets were terrible and they still affect me today. I'll never take them again. Of course, they are not all the same." it took well over 20 years to get my medication right, in fact its only been around five years that they've got it spot on. I do think some people are misdiagnosed and can be seen as "trendy" by some to have a mental illness. I have it on good authority from professionals that some people go with a list of symptoms that they have just copied from the internet. It takes trial and error to be diagnosed with a mental illness and I don't believe a doctor is qualified to make an assessment in a five minute appointment and give you antidepressants or such like. Being given the wrong medication can fuck you up more than the illness itself and then you have to factor in that two people can have the same illness but the same medication wont suit them. I was on lithium for about 6 years, that's 6 years I will never get back. Its hard to diagnose a mental illness its not as simple as having a blood test. I had a friend commit suicide while on the list to be seen. There very good at trying to put you in boxes as well but this doesn't work with mental illness. I have some characteristics of schizophrenia but I don't have schizophrenia. | |||
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"Exercise. Good diet. Getting out in daylight as much as possible. Making an effort to socialise. Cognitive Behaviour Therapy and talking therapies Vitamin D supplement 125mg-250mg daily through the darker months. Omega 3 supplements. Relaxation exercises. Finding things you love to do and making time for yourself to do them. Decluttering your surroundings and keeping things organised. Learning your own triggers and learning how to deal with them." | |||
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"Excercise is supposed to be the no 1 way to help due to the chemicals it produces in your body which raise your mood. Other than that socialising or upbeat music " Felt mine coming on in the early hours this week & realised what was looking, I hadn't ridden properly for weeks due to a chest infection. A few hard sessions on the turbo trainer has lifted my mood but its not the same as a proper outdoor ride | |||
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