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"1% - Half a million, not sure if it's before or after tax though? Or if it even matters... 99 percent of people have less than that. 10% idk, guess £24,000-250,000. 50% £7,000- £24,000 80% under £50 a year." Can only give 1 (near enough) out of 4, sorry. Close enough for a Coconut though. | |||
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"1% is 680 million though. World wealth of 240 trillion (roughly) so 237 trillion divided by 680 million... Phew it's tiring just writing" ...nooo it's only 68 million lol... Where's the accountants phone number | |||
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"A) a minimum of £100m? Means Lord Sugar is in there...." Jeezuz, the only way you'll get a cocunut is to swim to wherever they're grown. | |||
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"1% is 680 million though. World wealth of 240 trillion (roughly) so 237 trillion divided by 680 million... Phew it's tiring just writing" This is not one of your better posts. | |||
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" This 1% is in the news a lot lately. As measured by wealth = NET assets. How much do you think is required to be in the top a) 1% b) 10% c) 50% d) 80% Closest in each category wins a fresh Cocunut by 2nd class mail. " . 1% 550,000 10% 10,000 50% 500 80% 250 | |||
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"1% is 680 million though. World wealth of 240 trillion (roughly) so 237 trillion divided by 680 million... Phew it's tiring just writing This is not one of your better posts. " . Sums and wine is never a good combo.... Wine and ice skating.. Yes | |||
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"Ok, so while looking for stats coz OP is taking too long to give us my coconut...i found out 22,000 children a day die from poverty, that's pretty shocking. https://www.dosomething.org/facts/11-facts-about-global-poverty The meek will inherit the earth may arse." re Coconut and delay, blame the Post Office, the Royal Mail (and NuLabour). | |||
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"A) a minimum of £100m? Means Lord Sugar is in there.... Jeezuz, the only way you'll get a cocunut is to swim to wherever they're grown." Gimme my fucking coconut NOW!!! | |||
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" This 1% is in the news a lot lately. As measured by wealth = NET assets. How much do you think is required to be in the top a) 1% b) 10% c) 50% d) 80% Closest in each category wins a fresh Cocunut by 2nd class mail. . 1% 550,000 10% 10,000 50% 500 80% 250" You're trying One of them is close enough. Can you do a pirouette in a tu-tu? | |||
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"Bit deceptive this, not answered the poll but technically everyone in Britain is in the top 1%. The term 1% though is usually used to refer to the billionaires whose interests our sucessive governments have put first for a very long time. These are the guys who really benefit from all the terror BS, the war on drugs, the bailouts, and our invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan." . No there fucking not.... That would mean the entire 1% lives in Britain | |||
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"A) a minimum of £100m? Means Lord Sugar is in there.... Jeezuz, the only way you'll get a cocunut is to swim to wherever they're grown. Gimme my fucking coconut NOW!!! " NO! You can have the booby prize, a pic of my hairy balls covered in coconut milk. When i say covered i really mean a splash. | |||
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"A) a minimum of £100m? Means Lord Sugar is in there.... Jeezuz, the only way you'll get a cocunut is to swim to wherever they're grown. Gimme my fucking coconut NOW!!! !- NO! You can have the booby prize, a pic of my hairy balls covered in coconut milk. When i say covered i really mean a splash." Hardly a booby prize but I won't say no. | |||
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" This 1% is in the news a lot lately. As measured by wealth = NET assets. How much do you think is required to be in the top a) 1% b) 10% c) 50% d) 80% Closest in each category wins a fresh Cocunut by 2nd class mail. . 1% 550,000 10% 10,000 50% 500 80% 250 You're trying One of them is close enough. Can you do a pirouette in a tu-tu? " .mmmmm everyone's a fruit and nut case... Let's think radical. 1% 550,000 10% 1000 50% 50 80% £4.75 | |||
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"I'll never hit the 1% but I've no doubt I'll hit 1 million in assets by the time I'm 40 Aim high and retire somewhere sunny at 55 " . Everywhere will be sunny by then and 1 million quid won't buy you a round in the pub by then | |||
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"I'll never hit the 1% but I've no doubt I'll hit 1 million in assets by the time I'm 40 Aim high and retire somewhere sunny at 55 . Everywhere will be sunny by then and 1 million quid won't buy you a round in the pub by then " Notice I said assets, so as cash becomes subject to inflation, certain assets hold out. So I'll probably be able to buy two rounds | |||
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"I'll never hit the 1% but I've no doubt I'll hit 1 million in assets by the time I'm 40 Aim high and retire somewhere sunny at 55 . Everywhere will be sunny by then and 1 million quid won't buy you a round in the pub by then Notice I said assets, so as cash becomes subject to inflation, certain assets hold out. So I'll probably be able to buy two rounds " . I don't think there'll be cash by the time you get to 40. Just credits on your government card | |||
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"I'll never hit the 1% but I've no doubt I'll hit 1 million in assets by the time I'm 40 Aim high and retire somewhere sunny at 55 . Everywhere will be sunny by then and 1 million quid won't buy you a round in the pub by then Notice I said assets, so as cash becomes subject to inflation, certain assets hold out. So I'll probably be able to buy two rounds " Mine's a pint, share the wealth | |||
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" This 1% is in the news a lot lately. As measured by wealth = NET assets. How much do you think is required to be in the top a) 1% b) 10% c) 50% d) 80% Closest in each category wins a fresh Cocunut by 2nd class mail. . 1% 550,000 10% 10,000 50% 500 80% 250 You're trying One of them is close enough. Can you do a pirouette in a tu-tu? .mmmmm everyone's a fruit and nut case... Let's think radical. 1% 550,000 10% 1000 50% 50 80% £4.75" Strangely enough, you've got closer with one of your guesses. | |||
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"Anyhow I'm pretty sure I read in Forbes that world wealth was 240 trillion World pop is around 6.8 billion So 1% is 237.6 trillion divided by 68 million. 80% is 240 trillion divided by 5.45 billion Where I fail is my calculator won't do trillions (it's obviously not bill gates one). Anyhow it's not much I reckon about a fiver lol" 80% is 240 trillion divided by 5.45 popped that into google thinking it would calculate it for me, instead i'm getting search results for rothschilds and forbes etc... 240,000,000,000 / 5.45 = 44036697247.7 237,600,000,000 / 68,000,000 = 3494.11764706 fuck maths... | |||
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"I'm one of the richest people in the world, I'm contented with my lot. " this.. | |||
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"There is more to being rich than just assets and money. I've had both in abundance in the past. Now I have less of both but I consider myself richer than I've ever been." Here is a man who knows exactly what I mean! | |||
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"I was bored once and I worked it out on a Global scale. If you earn £20K per year on a GLOBAL scale as in taking into account every single living person who's ever paid tax or earn't a wage it would put you in the top tier believe it or not. I've had a big meal and wine so my thoughts are kinda blurred right now.." Most people who support the idea of wealth redistribution do so because they think they'll end up with more. The reality, if you take the whole world into account, is that nearly everyone, if not everyone, in this country would have a lot less if wealth was distributed evenly around the whole world. | |||
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"I was bored once and I worked it out on a Global scale. If you earn £20K per year on a GLOBAL scale as in taking into account every single living person who's ever paid tax or earn't a wage it would put you in the top tier believe it or not. I've had a big meal and wine so my thoughts are kinda blurred right now.. Most people who support the idea of wealth redistribution do so because they think they'll end up with more. The reality, if you take the whole world into account, is that nearly everyone, if not everyone, in this country would have a lot less if wealth was distributed evenly around the whole world." Further, if wealth was ever equally distributed one week, you could guarantee that one week later huge disparities in wealth would reappear. | |||
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"I was bored once and I worked it out on a Global scale. If you earn £20K per year on a GLOBAL scale as in taking into account every single living person who's ever paid tax or earn't a wage it would put you in the top tier believe it or not. I've had a big meal and wine so my thoughts are kinda blurred right now.." I read an article about this recently, with up-to-date figures. They calculated that an income of thirty-something thousand per annum put you in the top 1% of earners. | |||
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"I was bored once and I worked it out on a Global scale. If you earn £20K per year on a GLOBAL scale as in taking into account every single living person who's ever paid tax or earn't a wage it would put you in the top tier believe it or not. I've had a big meal and wine so my thoughts are kinda blurred right now.. I read an article about this recently, with up-to-date figures. They calculated that an income of thirty-something thousand per annum put you in the top 1% of earners." most people who earn 30 grand a year spend 31 grand a year so they ain't in the 1% lol. You have to have 500 grand to be one of the 68 million | |||
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"I was bored once and I worked it out on a Global scale. If you earn £20K per year on a GLOBAL scale as in taking into account every single living person who's ever paid tax or earn't a wage it would put you in the top tier believe it or not. I've had a big meal and wine so my thoughts are kinda blurred right now.. I read an article about this recently, with up-to-date figures. They calculated that an income of thirty-something thousand per annum put you in the top 1% of earners.most people who earn 30 grand a year spend 31 grand a year so they ain't in the 1% lol. You have to have 500 grand to be one of the 68 million" In terms of income alone, not the overall balance sheet. | |||
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" Before the witching hour is upon us, the "answers" to the level of NET wealth to put you into the categories are : a) Top 1% : £530,000 b) Top 10% : £50,000 c) Top 50% : £2,500 d) Top 80% : £10 " . Oooo I was only 50% out with me fiver then... Still there'd be well pisssed of cutting there fortune in half | |||
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"Income, not assets or net worth." . No it was net worth not income. Your 500 grand child include assets like a house but you actually had to have the equity in the property | |||
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"Income, not assets or net worth.. No it was net worth not income. Your 500 grand child include assets like a house but you actually had to have the equity in the property" I was responding to a thread, which I quoted, talking about income. I was talking about income in response. I understand the difference between income and assets thanks. | |||
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"Income, not assets or net worth.. No it was net worth not income. Your 500 grand child include assets like a house but you actually had to have the equity in the property" That's bollocks equity fluctuates. | |||
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"Income, not assets or net worth.. No it was net worth not income. Your 500 grand child include assets like a house but you actually had to have the equity in the property That's bollocks equity fluctuates." Quite. Most assets fluctuate to some extent because most markets move constantly. Plus it depends which currency you're counting in because of the variation in exchange rates. | |||
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"I recon anyone living legally in the UK is in the top 10%." | |||
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"I'll be fairly low down because I've got a high level of income but effectively nowt by way of assets. Just a massive mortgage. " Going by what you said on the verification thread, I wouldn't mind getting fairly low down with you. he he | |||
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"I recon anyone living legally in the UK is in the top 10%." . I think you'd be very much wrong. I've worked for so many people who have good jobs but no cash or much equity whatsoever. The whole country runs on debt like it or not it's a fact. | |||
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"Income, not assets or net worth.. No it was net worth not income. Your 500 grand child include assets like a house but you actually had to have the equity in the property That's bollocks equity fluctuates." . Everything fluctuates, the figures were based on equity at the time. There's a reason why house prices have gone through the roof in most western countries and that is you can get more return on your capital than you can from labour. It's why most people's houses in London earn more than they do. Of course it's just a bubble and eventually the capital will move elsewhere. | |||
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"I left my equity behind when I left my husband. It's only money. I'm now in the percentile one up from beggars and homeless people " I'm pretty much in the same situation but for different reasons. | |||
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"I recon anyone living legally in the UK is in the top 10%.. I think you'd be very much wrong. I've worked for so many people who have good jobs but no cash or much equity whatsoever. The whole country runs on debt like it or not it's a fact." Some of it's generational. If I'd bought my house in the 80s for a fraction of the value in real terms it has now, I'd probably have more cash and equity too. | |||
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"I recon anyone living legally in the UK is in the top 10%.. I think you'd be very much wrong. I've worked for so many people who have good jobs but no cash or much equity whatsoever. The whole country runs on debt like it or not it's a fact. Some of it's generational. If I'd bought my house in the 80s for a fraction of the value in real terms it has now, I'd probably have more cash and equity too." . That's my point it's fundamentally unstable to have houses earning more than labour. And it's not just houses, there's stock prices, money, profit and commodities all out pacing labour. | |||
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"I recon anyone living legally in the UK is in the top 10%.. I think you'd be very much wrong. I've worked for so many people who have good jobs but no cash or much equity whatsoever. The whole country runs on debt like it or not it's a fact." Really? A single unemployed adult over 25 on benefits living on their own gets £72.40 a week JSA plus housing benefit and council tax relief which must be worth at least the same again. Then they have free dental and health care, that must be worth thousands a year. Against that most of the world have to live on less than £1 a day and have no housing, health or dental care unless they can afford to buy it. I don't care what others think I know what a great place I live in and how lucky I am! Maybe we would all be better off if we stopped trying to grab more and started protecting what we already have, because while we are busy bemoaning our fate and trying to grab more others with even more are stripping what we already have from us! | |||
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"I recon anyone living legally in the UK is in the top 10%.. I think you'd be very much wrong. I've worked for so many people who have good jobs but no cash or much equity whatsoever. The whole country runs on debt like it or not it's a fact. Really? A single unemployed adult over 25 on benefits living on their own gets £72.40 a week JSA plus housing benefit and council tax relief which must be worth at least the same again. Then they have free dental and health care, that must be worth thousands a year. Against that most of the world have to live on less than £1 a day and have no housing, health or dental care unless they can afford to buy it. I don't care what others think I know what a great place I live in and how lucky I am! Maybe we would all be better off if we stopped trying to grab more and started protecting what we already have, because while we are busy bemoaning our fate and trying to grab more others with even more are stripping what we already have from us!" . Yes I agree completely. | |||
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"I recon anyone living legally in the UK is in the top 10%.. I think you'd be very much wrong. I've worked for so many people who have good jobs but no cash or much equity whatsoever. The whole country runs on debt like it or not it's a fact. Really? A single unemployed adult over 25 on benefits living on their own gets £72.40 a week JSA plus housing benefit and council tax relief which must be worth at least the same again. Then they have free dental and health care, that must be worth thousands a year. Against that most of the world have to live on less than £1 a day and have no housing, health or dental care unless they can afford to buy it. I don't care what others think I know what a great place I live in and how lucky I am! Maybe we would all be better off if we stopped trying to grab more and started protecting what we already have, because while we are busy bemoaning our fate and trying to grab more others with even more are stripping what we already have from us!" That's income though, not assets. There are a lot of people in the UK that are here legally that have almost no assets to speak of. Absolutely everything they have coming in is used to survive and even then it's a struggle. The really sad thing is that a lot of them are working full time. Last Christmas the government's own figures showed around 90 000 children were homeless. Do you think those families are in the top 10% of wealth owners? If you honestly think every person in the UK legally has assets of £50k+, the only thing I can say is that you must be living in a bubble that's not part of the real world and that you are, sadly, very deluded | |||
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"I recon anyone living legally in the UK is in the top 10%.. I think you'd be very much wrong. I've worked for so many people who have good jobs but no cash or much equity whatsoever. The whole country runs on debt like it or not it's a fact. Really? A single unemployed adult over 25 on benefits living on their own gets £72.40 a week JSA plus housing benefit and council tax relief which must be worth at least the same again. Then they have free dental and health care, that must be worth thousands a year. Against that most of the world have to live on less than £1 a day and have no housing, health or dental care unless they can afford to buy it. I don't care what others think I know what a great place I live in and how lucky I am! Maybe we would all be better off if we stopped trying to grab more and started protecting what we already have, because while we are busy bemoaning our fate and trying to grab more others with even more are stripping what we already have from us! That's income though, not assets. There are a lot of people in the UK that are here legally that have almost no assets to speak of. Absolutely everything they have coming in is used to survive and even then it's a struggle. The really sad thing is that a lot of them are working full time. Last Christmas the government's own figures showed around 90 000 children were homeless. Do you think those families are in the top 10% of wealth owners? If you honestly think every person in the UK legally has assets of £50k+, the only thing I can say is that you must be living in a bubble that's not part of the real world and that you are, sadly, very deluded " . Lol that I also agree with | |||
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"I recon anyone living legally in the UK is in the top 10%.. I think you'd be very much wrong. I've worked for so many people who have good jobs but no cash or much equity whatsoever. The whole country runs on debt like it or not it's a fact. Really? A single unemployed adult over 25 on benefits living on their own gets £72.40 a week JSA plus housing benefit and council tax relief which must be worth at least the same again. Then they have free dental and health care, that must be worth thousands a year. Against that most of the world have to live on less than £1 a day and have no housing, health or dental care unless they can afford to buy it. I don't care what others think I know what a great place I live in and how lucky I am! Maybe we would all be better off if we stopped trying to grab more and started protecting what we already have, because while we are busy bemoaning our fate and trying to grab more others with even more are stripping what we already have from us! That's income though, not assets. There are a lot of people in the UK that are here legally that have almost no assets to speak of. Absolutely everything they have coming in is used to survive and even then it's a struggle. The really sad thing is that a lot of them are working full time. Last Christmas the government's own figures showed around 90 000 children were homeless. Do you think those families are in the top 10% of wealth owners? If you honestly think every person in the UK legally has assets of £50k+, the only thing I can say is that you must be living in a bubble that's not part of the real world and that you are, sadly, very deluded " I do not live in a bubble, I am very aware of my surroundings and the outside world and what is being hidden from me. To be honest I don't think assets (stuff) really counts when working out how well off you are. Stuff is just baggage, we need some but nothing like what we all collect. As for the government figure of 90000 children being homeless that is not quite true either. I believe that if you check the definition of homeless in this case its 'not in permanent accommodation'. And although I agree its a disgrace that in one of the wealthiest countries in the world we need food banks to ensure all are fed and hostels to provide temporary accommodation for those who find themselves victims of the housing shortage which has been caused by political ideology. I still think we are much better off here than in most countries in the world. Personally I find it very worrying that we are rushing towards the US government model where everything is greed and profit led and 25% of the population have no access to healthcare and there are tent cities in every town and city to provide shelter to really homeless families with children. | |||
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"I recon anyone living legally in the UK is in the top 10%.. I think you'd be very much wrong. I've worked for so many people who have good jobs but no cash or much equity whatsoever. The whole country runs on debt like it or not it's a fact. Really? A single unemployed adult over 25 on benefits living on their own gets £72.40 a week JSA plus housing benefit and council tax relief which must be worth at least the same again. Then they have free dental and health care, that must be worth thousands a year. Against that most of the world have to live on less than £1 a day and have no housing, health or dental care unless they can afford to buy it. I don't care what others think I know what a great place I live in and how lucky I am! Maybe we would all be better off if we stopped trying to grab more and started protecting what we already have, because while we are busy bemoaning our fate and trying to grab more others with even more are stripping what we already have from us! That's income though, not assets. There are a lot of people in the UK that are here legally that have almost no assets to speak of. Absolutely everything they have coming in is used to survive and even then it's a struggle. The really sad thing is that a lot of them are working full time. Last Christmas the government's own figures showed around 90 000 children were homeless. Do you think those families are in the top 10% of wealth owners? If you honestly think every person in the UK legally has assets of £50k+, the only thing I can say is that you must be living in a bubble that's not part of the real world and that you are, sadly, very deluded I do not live in a bubble, I am very aware of my surroundings and the outside world and what is being hidden from me. To be honest I don't think assets (stuff) really counts when working out how well off you are. Stuff is just baggage, we need some but nothing like what we all collect. As for the government figure of 90000 children being homeless that is not quite true either. I believe that if you check the definition of homeless in this case its 'not in permanent accommodation'. And although I agree its a disgrace that in one of the wealthiest countries in the world we need food banks to ensure all are fed and hostels to provide temporary accommodation for those who find themselves victims of the housing shortage which has been caused by political ideology. I still think we are much better off here than in most countries in the world. Personally I find it very worrying that we are rushing towards the US government model where everything is greed and profit led and 25% of the population have no access to healthcare and there are tent cities in every town and city to provide shelter to really homeless families with children." The thread is about the top 1%, 10% etc of wealth owners in the world so you're deviating from the point to bring access to services and similar into it. To say everyone legally in the UK is in the top 10% for wealth, (i.e. has £50k+ in assets), which is what you claimed above, is laughable. And very, very wrong. Yes, homeless means not in permanent, suitable accommodation. They're in bedsits, shelters, staying with friends etc. Some are street homeless. If those families had over £50k of assets do you think they'd be in that situation? Because plenty of people are worse off does not mean everyone in the UK is in the top 10% in terms or wealth, or income. It also doesn't make people in poverty here any less unacceptable. | |||
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"I recon anyone living legally in the UK is in the top 10%.. I think you'd be very much wrong. I've worked for so many people who have good jobs but no cash or much equity whatsoever. The whole country runs on debt like it or not it's a fact. Really? A single unemployed adult over 25 on benefits living on their own gets £72.40 a week JSA plus housing benefit and council tax relief which must be worth at least the same again. Then they have free dental and health care, that must be worth thousands a year. Against that most of the world have to live on less than £1 a day and have no housing, health or dental care unless they can afford to buy it. I don't care what others think I know what a great place I live in and how lucky I am! Maybe we would all be better off if we stopped trying to grab more and started protecting what we already have, because while we are busy bemoaning our fate and trying to grab more others with even more are stripping what we already have from us! That's income though, not assets. There are a lot of people in the UK that are here legally that have almost no assets to speak of. Absolutely everything they have coming in is used to survive and even then it's a struggle. The really sad thing is that a lot of them are working full time. Last Christmas the government's own figures showed around 90 000 children were homeless. Do you think those families are in the top 10% of wealth owners? If you honestly think every person in the UK legally has assets of £50k+, the only thing I can say is that you must be living in a bubble that's not part of the real world and that you are, sadly, very deluded I do not live in a bubble, I am very aware of my surroundings and the outside world and what is being hidden from me. To be honest I don't think assets (stuff) really counts when working out how well off you are. Stuff is just baggage, we need some but nothing like what we all collect. As for the government figure of 90000 children being homeless that is not quite true either. I believe that if you check the definition of homeless in this case its 'not in permanent accommodation'. And although I agree its a disgrace that in one of the wealthiest countries in the world we need food banks to ensure all are fed and hostels to provide temporary accommodation for those who find themselves victims of the housing shortage which has been caused by political ideology. I still think we are much better off here than in most countries in the world. Personally I find it very worrying that we are rushing towards the US government model where everything is greed and profit led and 25% of the population have no access to healthcare and there are tent cities in every town and city to provide shelter to really homeless families with children. The thread is about the top 1%, 10% etc of wealth owners in the world so you're deviating from the point to bring access to services and similar into it. To say everyone legally in the UK is in the top 10% for wealth, (i.e. has £50k+ in assets), which is what you claimed above, is laughable. And very, very wrong. Yes, homeless means not in permanent, suitable accommodation. They're in bedsits, shelters, staying with friends etc. Some are street homeless. If those families had over £50k of assets do you think they'd be in that situation? Because plenty of people are worse off does not mean everyone in the UK is in the top 10% in terms or wealth, or income. It also doesn't make people in poverty here any less unacceptable." Again, really? I think you are one of those who is being led up the garden path! If we take your definition of wealth as correct you prove everything I have said in your posts. You are so caught up in the how much stuff have I got all to myself and how can I add more to it that you fail to notice all the really valuable stuff you own and did own that is being stolen from you! Personally I want all my stuff the Tories have given to their mates back! and I want to keep the stuff I have! Now let me tell you what we (that's every man, woman and child in this country) own. We own 100% of these businesses: • Green Investment Bank • Land Registry • Met Office • Ordnance Survey • UK Export Finance • Urenco • Channel 4 • National Nuclear Laboratories • Nuclear Decommissioning Authority • CDC • Eurostar • NATS • Royal Mint • UK Hydrographic Office • London and Continental Railways We also own the NHS and BBC and 80% of Lloyds, the TSB and RBS. Now maybe you think that your 50 millionth of the above is worthless but I think that my share adds up to much more than £50000! I understand that my real wealth is held in trust for me by our government and that our real wealth is being stolen from us and that the majority of people are going along with it in the hope that they can add a little coin to their private pile while the carpet baggers are fucking off with the family silver with the help of our employees (remember we employ all MP's)! As I have already said purely by luck I was born in this country and I share being in the top 10% of worlds wealthy, shame is most of my fellow countrymen and women are so self-centred that they fail to see where their real wealth lies and as a result are willing to see their birthright stolen from under their noses! | |||
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