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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date and the one who has been released I take it" Although I bet the site will have something in the T&C about not being able to register if you have been convicted of an assault/ serious crime etc. Fab has so I think other sites might have as well. | |||
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date and the one who has been released I take it Although I bet the site will have something in the T&C about not being able to register if you have been convicted of an assault/ serious crime etc. Fab has so I think other sites might have as well." I never knew that   cheers | |||
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date " lol...ok..lol. He should still be in Prison.. James Bulger or his parents won't get their life back. Just sayin... | |||
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date and the one who has been released I take it Although I bet the site will have something in the T&C about not being able to register if you have been convicted of an assault/ serious crime etc. Fab has so I think other sites might have as well. I never knew that cheers"Neither did I! Kinda pointless though. | |||
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date and the one who has been released I take it Although I bet the site will have something in the T&C about not being able to register if you have been convicted of an assault/ serious crime etc. Fab has so I think other sites might have as well." That's a bit naiive I think. You really believe that there is not one person on here who has an assault conviction? | |||
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date lol...ok..lol. He should still be in Prison.. James Bulger or his parents won't get their life back. Just sayin..." ok | |||
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date and the one who has been released I take it Although I bet the site will have something in the T&C about not being able to register if you have been convicted of an assault/ serious crime etc. Fab has so I think other sites might have as well. That's a bit naiive I think. You really believe that there is not one person on here who has an assault conviction?" No, Im saying that its in the site T&C. | |||
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"Wait what, yep its in the Mail. " Must be true then | |||
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"ffs, there are people who love folks on death row. nutters may very well be attracted to other nutters, online or not" | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish." Yay, let's kill kids for killing other kids! | |||
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date lol...ok..lol. He should still be in Prison.. James Bulger or his parents won't get their life back. Just sayin..." | |||
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"Who found out it was him? " The lack of credibility and proof is clear it seems, several press sources have questioned it. It's just controversy and attracts the usual brigade so sells papers etc. | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish.Yay, let's kill kids for killing other kids!" | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish.Yay, let's kill kids for killing other kids! "That was an ironic thumbs up in support of the ironic statement  | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish.Yay, let's kill kids for killing other kids!" Indeed, we should let them grow up to be bigger, stronger, more cunning and intelligent adults, then give them new identities so no one knows who they are! | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish." He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old?" 5x the age of his poor defenceless victim. From reports, it was no accident, he knew all of what he was doing. I often wonder just how long the application list would be if the job of public hangman was brought back. | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish.Yay, let's kill kids for killing other kids! Indeed, we should let them grow up to be bigger, stronger, more cunning and intelligent adults, then give them new identities so no one knows who they are!" That don't work though does it? Because we all know who is he, what he looks like and every move he makes, same with baby p's mum and her new identity, she can't even get her nails done without being in the papers 
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? 5x the age of his poor defenceless victim. From reports, it was no accident, he knew all of what he was doing. I often wonder just how long the application list would be if the job of public hangman was brought back. " I'm saying no different and I'm not defending him what I am saying is he was a child and I doubt many people would be able to take the life of a child even though they would like to see others do the job for their satisfaction | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish.Yay, let's kill kids for killing other kids! Indeed, we should let them grow up to be bigger, stronger, more cunning and intelligent adults, then give them new identities so no one knows who they are! That don't work though does it? Because we all know who is he, what he looks like and every move he makes, same with baby p's mum and her new identity, she can't even get her nails done without being in the papers
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old?" They killed him on a train track. Bastards. Sorry but to do that at 10 years old..there is something biologically wrong... Which means they are most likely inherently violent/dangerous possibly insane. | |||
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"Bit of a difficult one. If he's "potentially trawling the internet for victims" then surely he's a risk to the public and should still be in prison. If he's not deemed a risk, was judged to have served his punishment and has been released, then I don't think you can prevent someone looking to form a relationship. And I have every sympathy with James bulger's family, but of course they think it shouldn't be allowed, what on earth else would they say? " Depends if he is going to be honest about his past and new identity. Not everyone reads papers/watches the news x | |||
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"It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old?" They killed him on a train. Bastards. Sorry but to do that at 10 years old..there is something biologically wrong... Which means they are most likely inherently violent/dangerous possibly insane. " I'd also blame their parents if i wouldn't be jumped on by the pack. | |||
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"It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old?" They killed him on a train. Bastards. Sorry but to do that at 10 years old..there is something biologically wrong... Which means they are most likely inherently violent/dangerous possibly insane. I'd also blame their parents if i wouldn't be jumped on by the pack." No, that actually makes sense. | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old?" I was at school with people like this murderer. They only got worse with time. Should not have been given a new identity. Tagged and tracked for life | |||
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"It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old?" They killed him on a train. Bastards. Sorry but to do that at 10 years old..there is something biologically wrong... Which means they are most likely inherently violent/dangerous possibly insane. I'd also blame their parents if i wouldn't be jumped on by the pack. No, that actually makes sense." Thanks, i always do.
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"It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old?" They killed him on a train. Bastards. Sorry but to do that at 10 years old..there is something biologically wrong... Which means they are most likely inherently violent/dangerous possibly insane. I'd also blame their parents if i wouldn't be jumped on by the pack. No, that actually makes sense." Not really, (sadly) lots of kids grow up in abusive and broken homes, they still don't murder toddlers though. | |||
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"It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old?" They killed him on a train. Bastards. Sorry but to do that at 10 years old..there is something biologically wrong... Which means they are most likely inherently violent/dangerous possibly insane. I'd also blame their parents if i wouldn't be jumped on by the pack. No, that actually makes sense. Not really, (sadly) lots of kids grow up in abusive and broken homes, they still don't murder toddlers though." Ah, the complexities of human existence... | |||
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"It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old?" They killed him on a train. Bastards. Sorry but to do that at 10 years old..there is something biologically wrong... Which means they are most likely inherently violent/dangerous possibly insane. I'd also blame their parents if i wouldn't be jumped on by the pack." Their upbringing was awful,I read before that they were surrounded by violence,alcohol abuse and porn They were forced to fight,they were forced to watch horror films,they were told they were evil That has to have an effect on a little boys behaviour | |||
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"It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old?" They killed him on a train. Bastards. Sorry but to do that at 10 years old..there is something biologically wrong... Which means they are most likely inherently violent/dangerous possibly insane. I'd also blame their parents if i wouldn't be jumped on by the pack." Sometimes you can't blame their parents but I can't help but wonder what kind of parents let 10 year old kids out alone to rome about alone all day, when my kids were 10 if they wasn't at home I wanted to know where they was, if they went to a friends I took them and picked them up and they certainly was not allowed to Rome the street umsupervised, it makes you wonder what type of parents they had to allow this, to me 10 is just not old enough to be left alone in a house or walking the streets | |||
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date and the one who has been released I take it Although I bet the site will have something in the T&C about not being able to register if you have been convicted of an assault/ serious crime etc. Fab has so I think other sites might have as well. I didn't see any mention of this when we signed up, how does fab police this then? " Ive removed your post as Im not sure how a phone number sneaked into the middle of the post.... Its in the T&C on the blue link strip at the bottom of the page. I cant remember so far back but I guess you probably have to agree to the T&C when you first sign up? I guess Admin have to police it in the same way as they do u-18s etc...investigate if someone reports it in a PM, forum posts, dodgy profiles etc. Ive seen a few in the forums where people have posted about their previous convictions. | |||
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"I've copied and pasted these bulletin points from the article Denise Fergus said it is 'disgusting' that her son's killer is allowed online Criminal, 32, using dating site under a name which cannot be revealed He was given a new identity after serving eight years for murdering toddler It means young mothers on the site will have no idea of killer's true identity In profile, Venables boasts about his sense of humour and love of football He murdered two-year-old with Robert Thompson in Merseyside in 1993 He was later convicted of downloading and distributing child abuse images Expert said it was 'horrific' that Venables was allowed to trawl internet, potentially looking for victims " Scary as fuck,for those of us with daughters! | |||
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"It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old?" They killed him on a train. Bastards. Sorry but to do that at 10 years old..there is something biologically wrong... Which means they are most likely inherently violent/dangerous possibly insane. I'd also blame their parents if i wouldn't be jumped on by the pack. No, that actually makes sense. Not really, (sadly) lots of kids grow up in abusive and broken homes, they still don't murder toddlers though." True, I was taken into care as a child because my dad was an alcoholic and very abusive and violent, I spent over a year being ping ponged round the system into different homes and foster families, most were horrible places, till my gran won custody of me, but I have never harmed anybody in fact I truely believe my experiences as a Chile has made me a even more placid person if anything You can't always blame peoples unbringings on how they turn out | |||
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date and the one who has been released I take it Although I bet the site will have something in the T&C about not being able to register if you have been convicted of an assault/ serious crime etc. Fab has so I think other sites might have as well. That's a bit naiive I think. You really believe that there is not one person on here who has an assault conviction?" Someone with an assault charge, yeah I'd have to know all the circumstances involved in what happened before deciding if I wanted to date them. Someone who kidnapped, sexually assaulted, tortured and then killed a two year old toddler, hmmm let me think. Those boys now men shouldn't be allowed to see the light of day again. All the rehabilitation in the world wouldn't make them human, even at age 10 they would have known what's right and wrong. I totally despise the fact they have new identities, they did the crime, any people they meet deserve to know what they've done and be able to make a choice if they want anything to do with them. The thought of one of those men meeting a single mum and her having him around her children not knowing what they've done, it gives me chills. Pair of cunts shouldn't be allowed on this earth. | |||
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"My solution to this would be tattoo a rapist with an R, a murderer with an M, and a peadophile with a P Right on their forehead! When they are released from prison I don't care if its against their rights at least people can see what they are! " and Swingers with S. And wife beaters with WB and Alcoholics with 4x and Tax dodgers with TD and Drug Addicts with DA and burglars with B and Robbers with R and the self righteous and outragred with SRandO .... etc | |||
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"My solution to this would be tattoo a rapist with an R, a murderer with an M, and a peadophile with a P Right on their forehead! When they are released from prison I don't care if its against their rights at least people can see what they are! and Swingers with S. And wife beaters with WB and Alcoholics with 4x and Tax dodgers with TD and Drug Addicts with DA and burglars with B and Robbers with R and the self righteous and outragred with SRandO .... etc "
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"My solution to this would be tattoo a rapist with an R, a murderer with an M, and a peadophile with a P Right on their forehead! When they are released from prison I don't care if its against their rights at least people can see what they are! and Swingers with S. And wife beaters with WB and Alcoholics with 4x and Tax dodgers with TD and Drug Addicts with DA and burglars with B and Robbers with R and the self righteous and outragred with SRandO .... etc
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"My solution to this would be tattoo a rapist with an R, a murderer with an M, and a peadophile with a P Right on their forehead! When they are released from prison I don't care if its against their rights at least people can see what they are! and Swingers with S. And wife beaters with WB and Alcoholics with 4x and Tax dodgers with TD and Drug Addicts with DA and burglars with B and Robbers with R and the self righteous and outragred with SRandO .... etc
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Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion."Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls | |||
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"If he's on here with a cock pic avatar there'll be real trouble!" Yes the fab cock police | |||
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"My solution to this would be tattoo a rapist with an R, a murderer with an M, and a peadophile with a P Right on their forehead! When they are released from prison I don't care if its against their rights at least people can see what they are! and Swingers with S. And wife beaters with WB and Alcoholics with 4x and Tax dodgers with TD and Drug Addicts with DA and burglars with B and Robbers with R and the self righteous and outragred with SRandO .... etc
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Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls "You don't know anything about my children. | |||
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"My solution to this would be tattoo a rapist with an R, a murderer with an M, and a peadophile with a P Right on their forehead! When they are released from prison I don't care if its against their rights at least people can see what they are! and Swingers with S. And wife beaters with WB and Alcoholics with 4x and Tax dodgers with TD and Drug Addicts with DA and burglars with B and Robbers with R and the self righteous and outragred with SRandO .... etc
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Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls "Having somethimg happen to your own kids is not the same as reading something in the papers If anyone tried to harm my kids, make no bones about it I would protect them, violently if nessasery, I would have no problem spending time in jail to protect my own children from such an act, but to sit here and talk about taking the life of a child over something I am detached from and have only read about is totally different | |||
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"My solution to this would be tattoo a rapist with an R, a murderer with an M, and a peadophile with a P Right on their forehead! When they are released from prison I don't care if its against their rights at least people can see what they are! and Swingers with S. And wife beaters with WB and Alcoholics with 4x and Tax dodgers with TD and Drug Addicts with DA and burglars with B and Robbers with R and the self righteous and outragred with SRandO .... etc
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Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls "
I don't understand how anybody can want to defend this pair or say that they've served their time and now deserve a life. They deserve fuck all.
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"My solution to this would be tattoo a rapist with an R, a murderer with an M, and a peadophile with a P Right on their forehead! When they are released from prison I don't care if its against their rights at least people can see what they are! and Swingers with S. And wife beaters with WB and Alcoholics with 4x and Tax dodgers with TD and Drug Addicts with DA and burglars with B and Robbers with R and the self righteous and outragred with SRandO .... etc
You forgot d*unk drivers
Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls
Having somethimg happen to your own kids is not the same as reading something in the papers
If anyone tried to harm my kids, make no bones about it I would protect them, violently if nessasery, I would have no problem spending time in jail to protect my own children from such an act, but to sit here and talk about taking the life of a child over something I am detached from and have only read about is totally different "I guess some people have more empathy | |||
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"My solution to this would be tattoo a rapist with an R, a murderer with an M, and a peadophile with a P Right on their forehead! When they are released from prison I don't care if its against their rights at least people can see what they are! and Swingers with S. And wife beaters with WB and Alcoholics with 4x and Tax dodgers with TD and Drug Addicts with DA and burglars with B and Robbers with R and the self righteous and outragred with SRandO .... etc
You forgot d*unk drivers
Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls
Having somethimg happen to your own kids is not the same as reading something in the papers
If anyone tried to harm my kids, make no bones about it I would protect them, violently if nessasery, I would have no problem spending time in jail to protect my own children from such an act, but to sit here and talk about taking the life of a child over something I am detached from and have only read about is totally different
I guess some people have more empathy"No I have empathy I never said I didn't care about what happened I just can not sit and talk about killing people who I don't know, in the real world mob rule does not rule, all because I don't want to talk about killing two kids that does not mean I have no empathy for what's happening | |||
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"My solution to this would be tattoo a rapist with an R, a murderer with an M, and a peadophile with a P Right on their forehead! When they are released from prison I don't care if its against their rights at least people can see what they are! and Swingers with S. And wife beaters with WB and Alcoholics with 4x and Tax dodgers with TD and Drug Addicts with DA and burglars with B and Robbers with R and the self righteous and outragred with SRandO .... etc
You forgot d*unk drivers
Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls
I don't understand how anybody can want to defend this pair or say that they've served their time and now deserve a life. They deserve fuck all.
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"My solution to this would be tattoo a rapist with an R, a murderer with an M, and a peadophile with a P Right on their forehead! When they are released from prison I don't care if its against their rights at least people can see what they are! and Swingers with S. And wife beaters with WB and Alcoholics with 4x and Tax dodgers with TD and Drug Addicts with DA and burglars with B and Robbers with R and the self righteous and outragred with SRandO .... etc
You forgot d*unk drivers
Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls
Having somethimg happen to your own kids is not the same as reading something in the papers
If anyone tried to harm my kids, make no bones about it I would protect them, violently if nessasery, I would have no problem spending time in jail to protect my own children from such an act, but to sit here and talk about taking the life of a child over something I am detached from and have only read about is totally different
I guess some people have more empathy
No I have empathy I never said I didn't care about what happened I just can not sit and talk about killing people who I don't know, in the real world mob rule does not rule, all because I don't want to talk about killing two kids that does not mean I have no empathy for what's happening "I said tattoo not ''kill'' there is a difference | |||
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You forgot d*unk drivers
Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls
Having somethimg happen to your own kids is not the same as reading something in the papers
If anyone tried to harm my kids, make no bones about it I would protect them, violently if nessasery, I would have no problem spending time in jail to protect my own children from such an act, but to sit here and talk about taking the life of a child over something I am detached from and have only read about is totally different
I guess some people have more empathy
No I have empathy I never said I didn't care about what happened I just can not sit and talk about killing people who I don't know, in the real world mob rule does not rule, all because I don't want to talk about killing two kids that does not mean I have no empathy for what's happening
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You forgot d*unk drivers
Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls
Having somethimg happen to your own kids is not the same as reading something in the papers
If anyone tried to harm my kids, make no bones about it I would protect them, violently if nessasery, I would have no problem spending time in jail to protect my own children from such an act, but to sit here and talk about taking the life of a child over something I am detached from and have only read about is totally different
I guess some people have more empathy
No I have empathy I never said I didn't care about what happened I just can not sit and talk about killing people who I don't know, in the real world mob rule does not rule, all because I don't want to talk about killing two kids that does not mean I have no empathy for what's happening
I said tattoo not ''kill'' there is a difference
I know you did but plenty of others on this thread have talked about them being killed"I didn't though !!!!! | |||
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You forgot d*unk drivers
Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls
Having somethimg happen to your own kids is not the same as reading something in the papers
If anyone tried to harm my kids, make no bones about it I would protect them, violently if nessasery, I would have no problem spending time in jail to protect my own children from such an act, but to sit here and talk about taking the life of a child over something I am detached from and have only read about is totally different
I guess some people have more empathy
No I have empathy I never said I didn't care about what happened I just can not sit and talk about killing people who I don't know, in the real world mob rule does not rule, all because I don't want to talk about killing two kids that does not mean I have no empathy for what's happening
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You forgot d*unk drivers
Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls
Having somethimg happen to your own kids is not the same as reading something in the papers
If anyone tried to harm my kids, make no bones about it I would protect them, violently if nessasery, I would have no problem spending time in jail to protect my own children from such an act, but to sit here and talk about taking the life of a child over something I am detached from and have only read about is totally different
I guess some people have more empathy
No I have empathy I never said I didn't care about what happened I just can not sit and talk about killing people who I don't know, in the real world mob rule does not rule, all because I don't want to talk about killing two kids that does not mean I have no empathy for what's happening
I said tattoo not ''kill'' there is a difference
Because tattooing them wouldn't make them a target at all...."Like they targeted that toddler??? | |||
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You forgot d*unk drivers
Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls
Having somethimg happen to your own kids is not the same as reading something in the papers
If anyone tried to harm my kids, make no bones about it I would protect them, violently if nessasery, I would have no problem spending time in jail to protect my own children from such an act, but to sit here and talk about taking the life of a child over something I am detached from and have only read about is totally different
I guess some people have more empathy
No I have empathy I never said I didn't care about what happened I just can not sit and talk about killing people who I don't know, in the real world mob rule does not rule, all because I don't want to talk about killing two kids that does not mean I have no empathy for what's happening
I said tattoo not ''kill'' there is a difference
I know you did but plenty of others on this thread have talked about them being killed"But they aren't children now and it would save time, money and resources if these two had been sentenced to death, even if they had to wait till they turned 18 to do it. I'm the same age as them and I remember when it happened, I didn't know about them putting batteries inside the babies anus or forcibly retracting his foreskin but I was fully aware that two boys my age had killed a boy the exact same age my baby brother was at the time. | |||
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You forgot d*unk drivers
Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls
Having somethimg happen to your own kids is not the same as reading something in the papers
If anyone tried to harm my kids, make no bones about it I would protect them, violently if nessasery, I would have no problem spending time in jail to protect my own children from such an act, but to sit here and talk about taking the life of a child over something I am detached from and have only read about is totally different
I guess some people have more empathy
No I have empathy I never said I didn't care about what happened I just can not sit and talk about killing people who I don't know, in the real world mob rule does not rule, all because I don't want to talk about killing two kids that does not mean I have no empathy for what's happening
I said tattoo not ''kill'' there is a difference
Because tattooing them wouldn't make them a target at all....
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You forgot d*unk drivers
Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls
Having somethimg happen to your own kids is not the same as reading something in the papers
If anyone tried to harm my kids, make no bones about it I would protect them, violently if nessasery, I would have no problem spending time in jail to protect my own children from such an act, but to sit here and talk about taking the life of a child over something I am detached from and have only read about is totally different
I guess some people have more empathy
No I have empathy I never said I didn't care about what happened I just can not sit and talk about killing people who I don't know, in the real world mob rule does not rule, all because I don't want to talk about killing two kids that does not mean I have no empathy for what's happening
I said tattoo not ''kill'' there is a difference
I know you did but plenty of others on this thread have talked about them being killed
But they aren't children now and it would save time, money and resources if these two had been sentenced to death, even if they had to wait till they turned 18 to do it.
I'm the same age as them and I remember when it happened, I didn't know about them putting batteries inside the babies anus or forcibly retracting his foreskin but I was fully aware that two boys my age had killed a boy the exact same age my baby brother was at the time."oh my days!!! How do 10 year olds know how to do such things...!? Iv never heard exactly what they done to poor Jamie apart from tie him to train tracks.
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adults show them.... "why the eye icon, they see films made by adults for adults, they play games made by adults for adults, they see parents battering the fuck out of each other...... | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? They killed him on a train track. Bastards. Sorry but to do that at 10 years old..there is something biologically wrong... Which means they are most likely inherently violent/dangerous possibly insane." | |||
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why the eye icon, they see films made by adults for adults, they play games made by adults for adults, they see parents battering the fuck out of each other......
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You forgot d*unk drivers
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Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
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" How do 10 year olds know how to do such things...!? Iv never heard exactly what they done to poor Jamie apart from tie him to train tracks.
adults show them....
why the eye icon, they see films made by adults for adults, they play games made by adults for adults, they see parents battering the fuck out of each other......
because quite frankly I'm shocked Iv never seen any film or what ever showing those sorts of things! Disgusting"some 'parents' will allow their kids to watch graphic violence on the box and no doubt some children see only too closely and sadly serious domestic violence.. not saying that with all kids it will have a detrimental effect on their behaviour but 'learned behaviour' possibly has an effect for some.. | |||
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why the eye icon, they see films made by adults for adults, they play games made by adults for adults, they see parents battering the fuck out of each other......
because quite frankly I'm shocked Iv never seen any film or what ever showing those sorts of things! Disgusting"Just as an example,one of the chucky films with the evil doll that comes to life,that was one of the over 18 violent films they were exposed to, I think the evil doll was tied to a train track amd had paint thrown over him......as did poor Jamie | |||
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adults show them....
why the eye icon, they see films made by adults for adults, they play games made by adults for adults, they see parents battering the fuck out of each other......
because quite frankly I'm shocked Iv never seen any film or what ever showing those sorts of things! Disgusting
Just as an example,one of the chucky films with the evil doll that comes to life,that was one of the over 18 violent films they were exposed to, I think the evil doll was tied to a train track amd had paint thrown over him......as did poor Jamie"oh Iv seen the chucky films, don't remember all of the film though. | |||
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You forgot d*unk drivers
Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls
I don't understand how anybody can want to defend this pair or say that they've served their time and now deserve a life. They deserve fuck all.
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date lol...ok..lol. He should still be in Prison.. James Bulger or his parents won't get their life back. Just sayin..." His parents should have been in prison. Something very bad happened to those children for them to have done what they did at 10yrs old. | |||
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date lol...ok..lol. He should still be in Prison.. James Bulger or his parents won't get their life back. Just sayin... His parents should have been in prison. Something very bad happened to those children for them to have done what they did at 10yrs old. " This is so true and people often ignore this when jumping on the 'let's just kill them' bandwagon. | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? 5x the age of his poor defenceless victim. From reports, it was no accident, he knew all of what he was doing. I often wonder just how long the application list would be if the job of public hangman was brought back. " where do l send my application | |||
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date and the one who has been released I take it Although I bet the site will have something in the T&C about not being able to register if you have been convicted of an assault/ serious crime etc. Fab has so I think other sites might have as well." Yes but like single men pretending to be a couple, why not pretend you don't have a conviction. | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? 5x the age of his poor defenceless victim. From reports, it was no accident, he knew all of what he was doing. I often wonder just how long the application list would be if the job of public hangman was brought back. where do l send my application" Really? So how does that make you any better than the people you are killing? Sorry but legal murder is still murder all because you are getting paid to kill someone as a job it does not make the act any less No doubt 95% of fab will disagree and slate me for saying that but my opinion still stands, no one will ever convince me its OK to take another life | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? 5x the age of his poor defenceless victim. From reports, it was no accident, he knew all of what he was doing. I often wonder just how long the application list would be if the job of public hangman was brought back. where do l send my application" whenever i see this type of 'yeah, let me do it' i think wind and piss.. | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? 5x the age of his poor defenceless victim. From reports, it was no accident, he knew all of what he was doing. I often wonder just how long the application list would be if the job of public hangman was brought back. where do l send my application whenever i see this type of 'yeah, let me do it' i think wind and piss.. " Me too Its easy to say hang the bastards give me the rope I'll do it, but actually taking another life isn't that easy I think I'd be seriously worried about someone who would actually enjoy doing this for a living, because even if the person has dome wrong to want to take another persons life is not normal to me | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? 5x the age of his poor defenceless victim. From reports, it was no accident, he knew all of what he was doing. I often wonder just how long the application list would be if the job of public hangman was brought back. where do l send my application whenever i see this type of 'yeah, let me do it' i think wind and piss.. Me too Its easy to say hang the bastards give me the rope I'll do it, but actually taking another life isn't that easy I think I'd be seriously worried about someone who would actually enjoy doing this for a living, because even if the person has dome wrong to want to take another persons life is not normal to me " think some on here assume it will win them kudos.. yes meet me i kicked a stool out from under a child today.. want to meet up..? | |||
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date lol...ok..lol. He should still be in Prison.. James Bulger or his parents won't get their life back. Just sayin... His parents should have been in prison. Something very bad happened to those children for them to have done what they did at 10yrs old. This is so true and people often ignore this when jumping on the 'let's just kill them' bandwagon." I remember the case well! My own daughter was a toddler at the same time so it was particularly poignant! The parents of one were reported to be alcoholics and drug users, who abused their son and often fell into a stupour whilst violent films/violent porn etc were left on the television for both boys to 'enjoy' - thus completely warping their minds! This isn't an excuse I know - but it's part of a reason!! | |||
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"Omg, r u people for real, naievity, doesn't even come into it...... this guy killed a 2 year old. .. n has since spent further time foe sexual offences also more downloads of children. .... I trust the ones who are posting their opinions, do not have children..... or any kind of brain/humanity. ... so feeling sick here! " You hope I don't have children, because I don't believe children (or anyone else) should be given death sentences?  | |||
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"T n c... unbelievable. ... you are sick. .. as others on this post have stated... he is a sick pedophile. ... get a grip! !!!" If he is sick ........ treat him and make him better. | |||
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"T n c... unbelievable. ... you are sick. .. as others on this post have stated... he is a sick pedophile. ... get a grip! !!!" i dont think you get the context of that post lol | |||
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"There's no justice like mob justice like no justice I know!. I don't believe either of those children would have committed that crime if they had been alone, but just like the baying mob, you'd be surprised what shit humans can get upto when put into the right pack mentality." 100% | |||
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"Omg, r u people for real, naievity, doesn't even come into it...... this guy killed a 2 year old. .. n has since spent further time foe sexual offences also more downloads of children. .... I trust the ones who are posting their opinions, do not have children..... or any kind of brain/humanity. ... so feeling sick here! " we don't have the death penalty.. the rule of the mob is too frightening to contemplate given some don't know their paediatrician from paedophile.. why do you think people are being naive..? | |||
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"It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old?" They killed him on a train. Bastards. Sorry but to do that at 10 years old..there is something biologically wrong... Which means they are most likely inherently violent/dangerous possibly insane. I'd also blame their parents if i wouldn't be jumped on by the pack. Their upbringing was awful,I read before that they were surrounded by violence,alcohol abuse and porn They were forced to fight,they were forced to watch horror films,they were told they were evil That has to have an effect on a little boys behaviour " For a lot of kids..that is par for the course of growing up and they don't turn into evil little monsters who deserve all that fate decrees on them for there actions...and yes we do read the Daily Mail ! | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? 5x the age of his poor defenceless victim. From reports, it was no accident, he knew all of what he was doing. I often wonder just how long the application list would be if the job of public hangman was brought back. where do l send my application Really? So how does that make you any better than the people you are killing? Sorry but legal murder is still murder all because you are getting paid to kill someone as a job it does not make the act any less No doubt 95% of fab will disagree and slate me for saying that but my opinion still stands, no one will ever convince me its OK to take another life" Are you really saying that a large number of soldiers, drone operators and the like, in your eyes, are murderers? If not, what's the difference? Many of Bush/Blair/Obama/Hagues victims never received the benefit of a judicial procedure. | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? 5x the age of his poor defenceless victim. From reports, it was no accident, he knew all of what he was doing. I often wonder just how long the application list would be if the job of public hangman was brought back. " I don't know how long the application would be but I know this; anybody suggesting the killing of 10 year old children for whatever reason, or actually wanting to kill 10 year old children themselves, is probably more of a current danger to kids than anyone let out of prison for a crime they committed as a 10 year old child. | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? 5x the age of his poor defenceless victim. From reports, it was no accident, he knew all of what he was doing. I often wonder just how long the application list would be if the job of public hangman was brought back. where do l send my application Really? So how does that make you any better than the people you are killing? Sorry but legal murder is still murder all because you are getting paid to kill someone as a job it does not make the act any less No doubt 95% of fab will disagree and slate me for saying that but my opinion still stands, no one will ever convince me its OK to take another life Are you really saying that a large number of soldiers, drone operators and the like, in your eyes, are murderers? If not, what's the difference? Many of Bush/Blair/Obama/Hagues victims never received the benefit of a judicial procedure." I refuse to be drawn into that argument sorry | |||
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"My solution to this would be tattoo a rapist with an R, a murderer with an M, and a peadophile with a P Right on their forehead! When they are released from prison I don't care if its against their rights at least people can see what they are! and Swingers with S. And wife beaters with WB and Alcoholics with 4x and Tax dodgers with TD and Drug Addicts with DA and burglars with B and Robbers with R and the self righteous and outragred with SRandO .... etc
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Yeah ... d*unk drivers with DD and change all the bra sizes to avoid confusion.
Gosh yes.... as it hasn't happened to any of your children it must be a huge joke or
Maybe I am just a protective mother of two girls
Having somethimg happen to your own kids is not the same as reading something in the papers
If anyone tried to harm my kids, make no bones about it I would protect them, violently if nessasery, I would have no problem spending time in jail to protect my own children from such an act, but to sit here and talk about taking the life of a child over something I am detached from and have only read about is totally different
I guess some people have more empathy
No I have empathy I never said I didn't care about what happened I just can not sit and talk about killing people who I don't know, in the real world mob rule does not rule, all because I don't want to talk about killing two kids that does not mean I have no empathy for what's happening
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date and the one who has been released I take it Although I bet the site will have something in the T&C about not being able to register if you have been convicted of an assault/ serious crime etc. Fab has so I think other sites might have as well. That's a bit naiive I think. You really believe that there is not one person on here who has an assault conviction?" i dont | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? 5x the age of his poor defenceless victim. From reports, it was no accident, he knew all of what he was doing. I often wonder just how long the application list would be if the job of public hangman was brought back. I don't know how long the application would be but I know this; anybody suggesting the killing of 10 year old children for whatever reason, or actually wanting to kill 10 year old children themselves, is probably more of a current danger to kids than anyone let out of prison for a crime they committed as a 10 year old child." .Once again were in sync | |||
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"Yes tattoo on the heads i touch and hurt kids. Then us mums and dads can teach our kids to run away from the cunning bastards. Her" what if they wear a headscarf or hat.. | |||
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"Yes tattoo on the heads i touch and hurt kids. Then us mums and dads can teach our kids to run away from the cunning bastards. Her what if they wear a headscarf or hat.. " Hmm good thinking, sometimes it may look a bit suspicious if not worn in winter, no cure for these people drives me mad Her | |||
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"I'm afraid sometimes it's not "something bad", it's just a combination of mixed up brain wiring, societal influences, childhood bragging and timing. The act might have been one of evil but I very much doubt two ten year olds were. I would like to think in another dimension society may have backed those children with education and love rather than have castigated them to please their own Neanderthal yearnings."
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"If you start tackling such crime with increasing brutality, then you gradually place more and more power over peoples lives in the hands of the government, if you treat crime too softly however, you run the risk of absolute anarchy as the scum in society takes over. It's about trying to strike that right balance, order without tyranny, liberty without chaos."
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"why shouldn't he be ? I don't get the connection why he can't look to date and the one who has been released I take it Although I bet the site will have something in the T&C about not being able to register if you have been convicted of an assault/ serious crime etc. Fab has so I think other sites might have as well." they still register i know of two ppl that have been tried convicted jailed and released they on here lol so obviously they kept quiet lol | |||
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But you'll be one of the first against the wall come the revolution for saying things like that.". Ha you know when I say things will go tits sooner or later with the economy and things will get ugly. Take a look mate, I don't either of us can imagine how ugly they'll get. | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? 5x the age of his poor defenceless victim. From reports, it was no accident, he knew all of what he was doing. I often wonder just how long the application list would be if the job of public hangman was brought back. where do l send my application Really? So how does that make you any better than the people you are killing? Sorry but legal murder is still murder all because you are getting paid to kill someone as a job it does not make the act any less No doubt 95% of fab will disagree and slate me for saying that but my opinion still stands, no one will ever convince me its OK to take another life" I totally agree with the sentiment behind what you're saying but, for the sake of clarity, execution in accordance to law is not murder. The definition of murder is "the illegal killing of one human being by another". Therefore, if the punishment for their offence was death then their death would have been legal and, as such, not murder. Just clarifying the legal point. | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? 5x the age of his poor defenceless victim. From reports, it was no accident, he knew all of what he was doing. I often wonder just how long the application list would be if the job of public hangman was brought back. where do l send my application whenever i see this type of 'yeah, let me do it' i think wind and piss.. " Personally I think that anyone who is willing to volunteer to kill 10 year old children should be locked up themselves, preferably in a mental institution. | |||
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"I was 11 months younger than James when this happened, according to my nan the whole country was appalled and shook by this crime, especially people from Liverpool & the surrounding areas, genuinely heartbroken! To see a woman over 50 who lives in "Merseyside" defending these monsters has actually disgusted me! I live over the water & every scouser I know pride themselves on being such a tight knit city, always sticking together. I'm usually open minded and I've always tried to understand other people's point of _iews, but anyone who typed "they were children themselves", I can't see any sense in what you're saying! They weren't children once they took away a babies life, they were monsters & always will be! Jon Venables has since been jailed for 2 years for downloading child porn & is on his 4th new identity.. He clearly won't change yet he's allowed to be on a dating site and meet women with children who are oblivious to his past! I don't care if they were 10 or 50, best case scenario would have been the death penalty.. I'm sure Denise Bulger would have happily executed them! " | |||
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"I was 11 months younger than James when this happened, according to my nan the whole country was appalled and shook by this crime, especially people from Liverpool & the surrounding areas, genuinely heartbroken! To see a woman over 50 who lives in "Merseyside" defending these monsters has actually disgusted me! I live over the water & every scouser I know pride themselves on being such a tight knit city, always sticking together. I'm usually open minded and I've always tried to understand other people's point of _iews, but anyone who typed "they were children themselves", I can't see any sense in what you're saying! They weren't children once they took away a babies life, they were monsters & always will be! Jon Venables has since been jailed for 2 years for downloading child porn & is on his 4th new identity.. He clearly won't change yet he's allowed to be on a dating site and meet women with children who are oblivious to his past! I don't care if they were 10 or 50, best case scenario would have been the death penalty.. I'm sure Denise Bulger would have happily executed them! "I come from Liverpool and was living in Liverpool at the time. I also have a son who was exactly the same age as Jamie when he was killed and I was both shocked and extremely worried at the time ny the killing. However I still do not believe that telling people it's OK to kill 10 year old children is or was right. Neither is it a message I would have wanted to have my children learn. Those on here, who claim to represent the _iews of the people of Liverpool, don't speak for me but maybe they speak more for the parents of the two boys who committed this horrendous crime in the first place, after all their patents clearly hadn't got the message across to them that hurting and killing children is WRONG. NO IFS, NO BUTS just wrong. | |||
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"I was 11 months younger than James when this happened, according to my nan the whole country was appalled and shook by this crime, especially people from Liverpool & the surrounding areas, genuinely heartbroken! To see a woman over 50 who lives in "Merseyside" defending these monsters has actually disgusted me! I live over the water & every scouser I know pride themselves on being such a tight knit city, always sticking together. I'm usually open minded and I've always tried to understand other people's point of _iews, but anyone who typed "they were children themselves", I can't see any sense in what you're saying! They weren't children once they took away a babies life, they were monsters & always will be! Jon Venables has since been jailed for 2 years for downloading child porn & is on his 4th new identity.. He clearly won't change yet he's allowed to be on a dating site and meet women with children who are oblivious to his past! I don't care if they were 10 or 50, best case scenario would have been the death penalty.. I'm sure Denise Bulger would have happily executed them! " | |||
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"I was 11 months younger than James when this happened, according to my nan the whole country was appalled and shook by this crime, especially people from Liverpool & the surrounding areas, genuinely heartbroken! To see a woman over 50 who lives in "Merseyside" defending these monsters has actually disgusted me! I live over the water & every scouser I know pride themselves on being such a tight knit city, always sticking together. I'm usually open minded and I've always tried to understand other people's point of _iews, but anyone who typed "they were children themselves", I can't see any sense in what you're saying! They weren't children once they took away a babies life, they were monsters & always will be! Jon Venables has since been jailed for 2 years for downloading child porn & is on his 4th new identity.. He clearly won't change yet he's allowed to be on a dating site and meet women with children who are oblivious to his past! I don't care if they were 10 or 50, best case scenario would have been the death penalty.. I'm sure Denise Bulger would have happily executed them!
I come from Liverpool and was living in Liverpool at the time. I also have a son who was exactly the same age as Jamie when he was killed and I was both shocked and extremely worried at the time ny the killing.
However I still do not believe that telling people it's OK to kill 10 year old children is or was right. Neither is it a message I would have wanted to have my children learn. Those on here, who claim to represent the _iews of the people of Liverpool, don't speak for me but maybe they speak more for the parents of the two boys who committed this horrendous crime in the first place, after all their patents clearly hadn't got the message across to them that hurting and killing children is WRONG. NO IFS, NO BUTS just wrong."they weren't parents as far as I'm concerned, they were monsters just like the 2 boys. | |||
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" It's gonna be interesting seeing the type of posts on here compared to say a Ched Evans' thread. My £0.02 solution would never have allowed him to date again. Substitute "breathe" for date if you wish. He was 10 when he did his crime, yes a unspeakable crime granted, but he was 10 none the less, could you have killed him at 10 year old? They killed him on a train track. Bastards. Sorry but to do that at 10 years old..there is something biologically wrong... Which means they are most likely inherently violent/dangerous possibly insane. They didn't just kill him on the train track, they tortured him." They replicated a film's actions almost to the letter, it's horrible, and of course shocking, to think that those children had those upbringings and society didn't support them enough at the time to prevent the murder taking place. | |||
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"I was 11 months younger than James when this happened, according to my nan the whole country was appalled and shook by this crime, especially people from Liverpool & the surrounding areas, genuinely heartbroken! To see a woman over 50 who lives in "Merseyside" defending these monsters has actually disgusted me! I live over the water & every scouser I know pride themselves on being such a tight knit city, always sticking together. I'm usually open minded and I've always tried to understand other people's point of _iews, but anyone who typed "they were children themselves", I can't see any sense in what you're saying! They weren't children once they took away a babies life, they were monsters & always will be! Jon Venables has since been jailed for 2 years for downloading child porn & is on his 4th new identity.. He clearly won't change yet he's allowed to be on a dating site and meet women with children who are oblivious to his past! I don't care if they were 10 or 50, best case scenario would have been the death penalty.. I'm sure Denise Bulger would have happily executed them!
I come from Liverpool and was living in Liverpool at the time. I also have a son who was exactly the same age as Jamie when he was killed and I was both shocked and extremely worried at the time ny the killing.
However I still do not believe that telling people it's OK to kill 10 year old children is or was right. Neither is it a message I would have wanted to have my children learn. Those on here, who claim to represent the _iews of the people of Liverpool, don't speak for me but maybe they speak more for the parents of the two boys who committed this horrendous crime in the first place, after all their patents clearly hadn't got the message across to them that hurting and killing children is WRONG. NO IFS, NO BUTS just wrong."I did state I was 11 months younger than Jamie & didn't claim to speak for any of Liverpool as I'm from the Wirral, I clearly stated it's what my nan had told me & I was disgusted she was defending them. I definitely don't speak for their parents either! My children are being brought up & not dragged up. I've formed an opinion on what I've been told, read & after seeing a video of their police inter_iew & headlines ever since, it definitely won't be changed! The death penalty wouldn't callously be "hurting and killing children" .. What they done was hurt and kill a child! If I had the choice I'd take a lethal injection or beheading over the hours of torture they inflicted on that little boy. | |||
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"I was 11 months younger than James when this happened, according to my nan the whole country was appalled and shook by this crime, especially people from Liverpool & the surrounding areas, genuinely heartbroken! To see a woman over 50 who lives in "Merseyside" defending these monsters has actually disgusted me! I live over the water & every scouser I know pride themselves on being such a tight knit city, always sticking together. I'm usually open minded and I've always tried to understand other people's point of _iews, but anyone who typed "they were children themselves", I can't see any sense in what you're saying! They weren't children once they took away a babies life, they were monsters & always will be! Jon Venables has since been jailed for 2 years for downloading child porn & is on his 4th new identity.. He clearly won't change yet he's allowed to be on a dating site and meet women with children who are oblivious to his past! I don't care if they were 10 or 50, best case scenario would have been the death penalty.. I'm sure Denise Bulger would have happily executed them!
I come from Liverpool and was living in Liverpool at the time. I also have a son who was exactly the same age as Jamie when he was killed and I was both shocked and extremely worried at the time ny the killing.
However I still do not believe that telling people it's OK to kill 10 year old children is or was right. Neither is it a message I would have wanted to have my children learn. Those on here, who claim to represent the _iews of the people of Liverpool, don't speak for me but maybe they speak more for the parents of the two boys who committed this horrendous crime in the first place, after all their patents clearly hadn't got the message across to them that hurting and killing children is WRONG. NO IFS, NO BUTS just wrong. they weren't parents as far as I'm concerned, they were monsters just like the 2 boys."I've never met their patents but, from what I've read, they seem far from ideal. Maybe if we all, as a social society, had done something about that sooner, rather than baying for the blood of two more children, Jamie would still be alive today | |||
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"I was 11 months younger than James when this happened, according to my nan the whole country was appalled and shook by this crime, especially people from Liverpool & the surrounding areas, genuinely heartbroken! To see a woman over 50 who lives in "Merseyside" defending these monsters has actually disgusted me! I live over the water & every scouser I know pride themselves on being such a tight knit city, always sticking together. I'm usually open minded and I've always tried to understand other people's point of _iews, but anyone who typed "they were children themselves", I can't see any sense in what you're saying! They weren't children once they took away a babies life, they were monsters & always will be! Jon Venables has since been jailed for 2 years for downloading child porn & is on his 4th new identity.. He clearly won't change yet he's allowed to be on a dating site and meet women with children who are oblivious to his past! I don't care if they were 10 or 50, best case scenario would have been the death penalty.. I'm sure Denise Bulger would have happily executed them!
I come from Liverpool and was living in Liverpool at the time. I also have a son who was exactly the same age as Jamie when he was killed and I was both shocked and extremely worried at the time ny the killing.
However I still do not believe that telling people it's OK to kill 10 year old children is or was right. Neither is it a message I would have wanted to have my children learn. Those on here, who claim to represent the _iews of the people of Liverpool, don't speak for me but maybe they speak more for the parents of the two boys who committed this horrendous crime in the first place, after all their patents clearly hadn't got the message across to them that hurting and killing children is WRONG. NO IFS, NO BUTS just wrong. they weren't parents as far as I'm concerned, they were monsters just like the 2 boys.
I've never met their patents but, from what I've read, they seem far from ideal. Maybe if we all, as a social society, had done something about that sooner, rather than baying for the blood of two more children, Jamie would still be alive today "I think the parents and the boys were sadly too far from ideal for help that would have helped. | |||
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"I was 11 months younger than James when this happened, according to my nan the whole country was appalled and shook by this crime, especially people from Liverpool & the surrounding areas, genuinely heartbroken! To see a woman over 50 who lives in "Merseyside" defending these monsters has actually disgusted me! I live over the water & every scouser I know pride themselves on being such a tight knit city, always sticking together. I'm usually open minded and I've always tried to understand other people's point of _iews, but anyone who typed "they were children themselves", I can't see any sense in what you're saying! They weren't children once they took away a babies life, they were monsters & always will be! Jon Venables has since been jailed for 2 years for downloading child porn & is on his 4th new identity.. He clearly won't change yet he's allowed to be on a dating site and meet women with children who are oblivious to his past! I don't care if they were 10 or 50, best case scenario would have been the death penalty.. I'm sure Denise Bulger would have happily executed them! Really fail to see what Liverpool has to do with this. Should I be more appalled about when Raoul Moat shot some people because I'm from Newcastle? Should I hate Peter Sutcliffe more because I used to live in Sheffield? Using local tribalism as a reason for having a certain belief about something really diminishes your argument. This would have been an appalling crime wherever and to whomever it happened. "
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"I was 11 months younger than James when this happened, according to my nan the whole country was appalled and shook by this crime, especially people from Liverpool & the surrounding areas, genuinely heartbroken! To see a woman over 50 who lives in "Merseyside" defending these monsters has actually disgusted me! I live over the water & every scouser I know pride themselves on being such a tight knit city, always sticking together. I'm usually open minded and I've always tried to understand other people's point of _iews, but anyone who typed "they were children themselves", I can't see any sense in what you're saying! They weren't children once they took away a babies life, they were monsters & always will be! Jon Venables has since been jailed for 2 years for downloading child porn & is on his 4th new identity.. He clearly won't change yet he's allowed to be on a dating site and meet women with children who are oblivious to his past! I don't care if they were 10 or 50, best case scenario would have been the death penalty.. I'm sure Denise Bulger would have happily executed them! Really fail to see what Liverpool has to do with this. Should I be more appalled about when Raoul Moat shot some people because I'm from Newcastle? Should I hate Peter Sutcliffe more because I used to live in Sheffield? Using local tribalism as a reason for having a certain belief about something really diminishes your argument. This would have been an appalling crime wherever and to whomever it happened. " I weren't trying to use "local tribalism" or I wouldn't have mentioned the whole country but personally I'd be a lot more shook up & emotional about something that happened on my doorstep, and the fact he was took from somewhere that most people go to weekly. | |||
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"I was 11 months younger than James when this happened, according to my nan the whole country was appalled and shook by this crime, especially people from Liverpool & the surrounding areas, genuinely heartbroken! To see a woman over 50 who lives in "Merseyside" defending these monsters has actually disgusted me! I live over the water & every scouser I know pride themselves on being such a tight knit city, always sticking together. I'm usually open minded and I've always tried to understand other people's point of _iews, but anyone who typed "they were children themselves", I can't see any sense in what you're saying! They weren't children once they took away a babies life, they were monsters & always will be! Jon Venables has since been jailed for 2 years for downloading child porn & is on his 4th new identity.. He clearly won't change yet he's allowed to be on a dating site and meet women with children who are oblivious to his past! I don't care if they were 10 or 50, best case scenario would have been the death penalty.. I'm sure Denise Bulger would have happily executed them! Really fail to see what Liverpool has to do with this. Should I be more appalled about when Raoul Moat shot some people because I'm from Newcastle? Should I hate Peter Sutcliffe more because I used to live in Sheffield? Using local tribalism as a reason for having a certain belief about something really diminishes your argument. This would have been an appalling crime wherever and to whomever it happened. I weren't trying to use "local tribalism" or I wouldn't have mentioned the whole country but personally I'd be a lot more shook up & emotional about something that happened on my doorstep, and the fact he was took from somewhere that most people go to weekly." "To see a woman over 50 from Merseyside defending these monsters has actually disgusted me". It's that bit I meant. A woman over 50 from Merseyside is just as entitled to come to the conclusion that two very disturbed 10 year old boys shouldn't have been sentenced to death than a man from Bristol. | |||
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"I was 11 months younger than James when this happened, according to my nan the whole country was appalled and shook by this crime, especially people from Liverpool & the surrounding areas, genuinely heartbroken! To see a woman over 50 who lives in "Merseyside" defending these monsters has actually disgusted me! I live over the water & every scouser I know pride themselves on being such a tight knit city, always sticking together. I'm usually open minded and I've always tried to understand other people's point of _iews, but anyone who typed "they were children themselves", I can't see any sense in what you're saying! They weren't children once they took away a babies life, they were monsters & always will be! Jon Venables has since been jailed for 2 years for downloading child porn & is on his 4th new identity.. He clearly won't change yet he's allowed to be on a dating site and meet women with children who are oblivious to his past! I don't care if they were 10 or 50, best case scenario would have been the death penalty.. I'm sure Denise Bulger would have happily executed them! Really fail to see what Liverpool has to do with this. Should I be more appalled about when Raoul Moat shot some people because I'm from Newcastle? Should I hate Peter Sutcliffe more because I used to live in Sheffield? Using local tribalism as a reason for having a certain belief about something really diminishes your argument. This would have been an appalling crime wherever and to whomever it happened.
I couldn't have put it better myself. The people of Liverpool are no more or less in favour of the death penalty or the killing of 10 year old children than anyone else."Hang on, where did I say I talk for the people of Liverpool? I said I was disgusted she defended them! If you read the comments, it weren't even about the death penalty it was about tattoo's & I weren't involved in that exchange! I'm sure what I said was that I'm disgusted with her defending the boys, then later on I put my opinion! I may be mistaken and wrote it in the wrong context as it was ranty & not exactly thought through, but that's the way I meant it to come across anyway. Just for future reference- THIS IS MY OPINION & I DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE OF LIVERPOOL, I'M DISGUSTED IN ANYONE DEFENDING THE MURDERERS OR MAKING EXCUSES FOR THE TORTURE OF A TODDLER. | |||
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" The best outcome from any horrific incident such as this is that society takes a long hard look at itself and asks questions and takes responsibility/ actions. " Oh yes...so it was our fault? .. Aye ok makes sense.  | |||
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" The best outcome from any horrific incident such as this is that society takes a long hard look at itself and asks questions and takes responsibility/ actions. Oh yes...so it was our fault? .. Aye ok makes sense. ". Looking for blame is a very British trait but also a fruitless one!. Examine what went wrong and fix it. I just happen to think hanging children won't fix anything, it will just worsen the situation. | |||
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" The best outcome from any horrific incident such as this is that society takes a long hard look at itself and asks questions and takes responsibility/ actions. Oh yes...so it was our fault? .. Aye ok makes sense. .
Looking for blame is a very British trait but also a fruitless one!.
Examine what went wrong and fix it.
I just happen to think hanging children won't fix anything, it will just worsen the situation."So what do you think would fix it? | |||
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" The best outcome from any horrific incident such as this is that society takes a long hard look at itself and asks questions and takes responsibility/ actions. Oh yes...so it was our fault? .. Aye ok makes sense. .
Looking for blame is a very British trait but also a fruitless one!.
Examine what went wrong and fix it.
I just happen to think hanging children won't fix anything, it will just worsen the situation.
So what do you think would fix it?". I already stated that I think paying for decent social workers and decent state run care homes would be a better start. But in all honest I think those kids needed love not prison, as difficult as that is with our conscience | |||
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"I know. I was more interested in what you think "decent" social workers would do to fix it. Plus how do you know they didn't have decent Social workers already and they just didn't manage to "fix" it?" . I like to believe that with a better budget, more people to case read and spend time with perceived problem family's and somewhere to actually put children once you've decided on intervention, it might be better but I could be wrong I'll admit that | |||
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"I know. I was more interested in what you think "decent" social workers would do to fix it. Plus how do you know they didn't have decent Social workers already and they just didn't manage to "fix" it?. I like to believe that with a better budget, more people to case read and spend time with perceived problem family's and somewhere to actually put children once you've decided on intervention, it might be better but I could be wrong I'll admit that" I am guessing you are talking about before anything drastic happens like this? I think taking children out of homes is the last resort, so some would still slip through the net, and who knows if these two children had had a different life things might have been different, BUT would the life they had make an evil child. There used to be and probably still is children who live that way ...I can understand a troubled child who goes off the rails but to turn evil ? I don't know. | |||
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"I know. I was more interested in what you think "decent" social workers would do to fix it. Plus how do you know they didn't have decent Social workers already and they just didn't manage to "fix" it?. I like to believe that with a better budget, more people to case read and spend time with perceived problem family's and somewhere to actually put children once you've decided on intervention, it might be better but I could be wrong I'll admit that I am guessing you are talking about before anything drastic happens like this? I think taking children out of homes is the last resort, so some would still slip through the net, and who knows if these two children had had a different life things might have been different, BUT would the life they had make an evil child. There used to be and probably still is children who live that way ...I can understand a troubled child who goes off the rails but to turn evil ? I don't know." . I think that taking the children out of the home became the policy because they didn't want the cost of taking them out of the home! I don't believe in 'evil',I don't believe people are born evil, wired different!, problematic social interaction, these are problems of the brain not Satan. If we're going to decide that children are responsible for their own actions then we really need to let them vote, drink, smoke and have sex... The reason we don't is because we recognise their unable to. I think the way the Norwegians handled a very similar case shows the difference between " blame " and solution | |||
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"By the way the Norwegians sent the two kids back to school a week later with no prison. I think their solution was better than ours although it probably doesn't sit well with some peoples morals " I hadn't heard about this so just googled it. To be fair, the cases are not really the same , one was three children playing and for whatever reason turned sour and two of them battered another......and the other was the abduction on purpose of a two year old child to torture. Don't get me wrong, the kids still killed the little girl but at 5 children have fights, would they know "this is going to kill this girl " if they carried on? . Where as abducting a child on purpose ( they had tried the day before with another kid )with the intention of using the tools they had robbed from shops to torture the child this death sounds much more menacing to me . It is interesting how they dealt with it though, especially as they seemed to not care what affect it was having on the dead childs family. | |||
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"By the way the Norwegians sent the two kids back to school a week later with no prison. I think their solution was better than ours although it probably doesn't sit well with some peoples morals I hadn't heard about this so just googled it. To be fair, the cases are not really the same , one was three children playing and for whatever reason turned sour and two of them battered another......and the other was the abduction on purpose of a two year old child to torture. Don't get me wrong, the kids still killed the little girl but at 5 children have fights, would they know "this is going to kill this girl " if they carried on? . Where as abducting a child on purpose ( they had tried the day before with another kid )with the intention of using the tools they had robbed from shops to torture the child this death sounds much more menacing to me . It is interesting how they dealt with it though, especially as they seemed to not care what affect it was having on the dead childs family. " . I would hope that the families first thought would be to hope the same tragedy doesn't affect another family. I can't say for definite because I've never had my child murdered, it must be heart breaking but I'm not sure hanging two children would placate my heartbreak. | |||
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" It is interesting how they dealt with it though, especially as they seemed to not care what affect it was having on the dead childs family. . I would hope that the families first thought would be to hope the same tragedy doesn't affect another family. I can't say for definite because I've never had my child murdered, it must be heart breaking but I'm not sure hanging two children would placate my heartbreak." I am guessing the family didn't want it to happen to another family no, I am also guessing that doesn't even need to be said. They did feel like they were the not the victims though by how it was dealt with. Just to clarify though, I didn't say I wanted children to be hung. | |||
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