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"Got a ticket.£90. Should I pay. It's a free car park for 90 minutes. There's no clock or ticket machine. Lidl say it's nothing to do with them. Alot of posts say don't pay? Your thoughts. . " Find out the name of the company who sent you the mail. Don't pay. There is nothing legal about them usually. BUT check as one or two are legit. There's a lot of online info about these companies. They have NO authority and rely on people just paying up. | |||
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" you were inLidl for 90 mins good lord what did you buy " The company | |||
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"No, don't pay. Google for how to handle it. There's a lot of information out there. Basically they can't issue parking fines. They've just sent you an invoice in the hope you'll pay it." This^ | |||
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" you were inLidl for 90 mins good lord what did you buy " I'm guessing they used their car park and went elsewhere | |||
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"If its lidls car park how can it be nothing to do with thm?" It's managed for them. | |||
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" you were inLidl for 90 mins good lord what did you buy " I can't recall the Occaisional,but probably won't to the bank or something too. | |||
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"It is a free car park for their customers. You were parked there for 100 mins in total. I'm guessing you used their parking space to go shopping else where. Whilst I think £90 is a bit steep. I do think you should pay something!!" You don't know that they didn't shop there. Ok it sounds like they went somewhere else too but for all we know they did shop there. | |||
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"It happened to me once and I didn't pay. I went into McDonalds on liverpool waterfront but came out the other end and parked by a private wall. When I wanted to leave there was a van in the way so I went back through Maccy D's and out of their entrance/exit. Cameras recorded me In and OUT and said i'd been there hours. Not so. " Macdonalds have a bad record in their car parks. People who visit regularly, ie call in for breakfast then also on their way home, have been sent letters saying they were there all day. | |||
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" I don't know what the normal procedure is to argue over parking tickets, but I do know this. If you shit into a jiffy bag and post it to the company concerned. You will feel better!]" And will also be breaking the law and could be prosecuted for it. Maybe not such a good plan. | |||
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"If a car park is private, do you have to show a number plate? Cover up before the camera, uncover before the public road? Just a thought." Covering your number plate is illegal so wouldn't recommend that | |||
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"If a car park is private, do you have to show a number plate? Cover up before the camera, uncover before the public road? Just a thought. Covering your number plate is illegal so wouldn't recommend that" Not off the public road it isn't. | |||
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"It happened to me once and I didn't pay. I went into McDonalds on liverpool waterfront but came out the other end and parked by a private wall. When I wanted to leave there was a van in the way so I went back through Maccy D's and out of their entrance/exit. Cameras recorded me In and OUT and said i'd been there hours. Not so. Macdonalds have a bad record in their car parks. People who visit regularly, ie call in for breakfast then also on their way home, have been sent letters saying they were there all day. " There's probably some small print about no return for 24 hours. | |||
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" I don't know what the normal procedure is to argue over parking tickets, but I do know this. If you shit into a jiffy bag and post it to the company concerned. You will feel better!]" XXXL? | |||
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"It happened to me once and I didn't pay. I went into McDonalds on liverpool waterfront but came out the other end and parked by a private wall. When I wanted to leave there was a van in the way so I went back through Maccy D's and out of their entrance/exit. Cameras recorded me In and OUT and said i'd been there hours. Not so. Macdonalds have a bad record in their car parks. People who visit regularly, ie call in for breakfast then also on their way home, have been sent letters saying they were there all day. There's probably some small print about no return for 24 hours. " I didn't go in there to return. | |||
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"Got a ticket.£90. Should I pay. It's a free car park for 90 minutes. There's no clock or ticket machine. Lidl say it's nothing to do with them. Alot of posts say don't pay? Your thoughts. . " Be prepared to answer a lot of letters, I overstayed at the hospital car park as they added a new drug to my chemo, I can do a lot when hooked up but moving a motorbike while attached to a drip stand is getting a bit silly! Over the next year I had dozens of letters first from the car park people, then debt collectors, finally solicitors. I had initially appealed the parking charge, in the end I added a paragraph to the start of the appeal letter and just printed it off and sent it as my only reply to all letters.they were eventually trying to collect £1400 for the initial £60 then fees on top. Despite the threats it never went to court, and they did eventually give up, which was a shame as I had a doctor and nurse ready to testify why I overran the parking time, would have liked to test it in a court, think they would prefer not to. | |||
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"It is a free car park for their customers. You were parked there for 100 mins in total. I'm guessing you used their parking space to go shopping else where. Whilst I think £90 is a bit steep. I do think you should pay something!!" Agree. And the same folk that complain of parking fines would be complaining if car parks weren't managed, parking was abused and they could never park. Can't win | |||
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"Macdonalds have a bad record in their car parks. People who visit regularly, ie call in for breakfast then also on their way home, have been sent letters saying they were there all day. " If ya visit McDonald's once that's bad enough, but twice in a day then you deserve all that's coming to you | |||
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"Macdonalds have a bad record in their car parks. People who visit regularly, ie call in for breakfast then also on their way home, have been sent letters saying they were there all day. If ya visit McDonald's once that's bad enough, but twice in a day then you deserve all that's coming to you " Agreed. | |||
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"It is a free car park for their customers. You were parked there for 100 mins in total. I'm guessing you used their parking space to go shopping else where. Whilst I think £90 is a bit steep. I do think you should pay something!! Agree. And the same folk that complain of parking fines would be complaining if car parks weren't managed, parking was abused and they could never park. Can't win " Of course. The local Council charge is £25 if you pay up straightaway. Fair enough. | |||
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"If you get hit with a ticket for parking on private land it is not an official penalty or fine - it is simply a charge that the company is trying to make you pay. By using a space at a private car park, you have merely entered into a civil contract - police won’t take you to court for not paying. Argue your case and stand your ground if you get a ticket – fewer than 5 per cent of cases are taken to County Court. If they are, most are found in the motorist’s favour. Under The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, landowners can hire third-party parking attendants to hand out charges, though they can no longer clamp. What these private firms do not advertise is that they are not legally allowed to fine or penalise drivers for misusing private land – they can only impose a charge for potential losses or damages. And under the 1999 Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations, the sum they demand must be deemed ‘fair and reasonable.’ This means you can stand firm against rogue firms demanding £100 or more in parking charges, and they are unlikely to take you to court as the costs of doing so usually outweigh the potential gains. You can fight a ticket on the basis that terms must be clear and fair. If any signs are hidden, confusing or too small, or you can argue that you did not see them then a contract is not valid. It may take some work but you can fight back. One tip is to send a letter and a cheque for what you would judge to be a fair amount for parking for that period of time - ie comparable to a car park charge or on-street parking - plus a few pounds for compensation. Say that you believe this is a fair offer and compensates the business for its loss of parking amenity while you were there. " On the street, outside the banks etc it's about £1 an hour. | |||
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"If there's no clock, no ticket on entry,how do you know what the time is? Their time could be different to the radio or your phone, and I might not have parked for 10 minutes, if waiting to find a space." They have cameras taking the reg no on entry & exit - computers then work out the variance. I guess they make an allowance for waiting to park etc. However I'm sure the local Aldi store has a restriction of 1 hr. Especially at Christmas or Summer hols could easily spend an hour in there - mainly in queues | |||
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"It is a free car park for their customers. You were parked there for 100 mins in total. I'm guessing you used their parking space to go shopping else where. Whilst I think £90 is a bit steep. I do think you should pay something!! Agree. And the same folk that complain of parking fines would be complaining if car parks weren't managed, parking was abused and they could never park. Can't win Of course. The local Council charge is £25 if you pay up straightaway. Fair enough." Like others say, offer to pay £25 if that's the going rate, seems reasonable rather than refusing to pay completely. | |||
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"I've ignored no end of these. Legally the contract is with the driver not the registered keeper " The problem with that is that the Protection of Freedoms Act makes the registered keeper liable if the driver doesn't pay and some firms are very litigious. All the details are on the MSE site I mentioned above. | |||
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"It is a free car park for their customers. You were parked there for 100 mins in total. I'm guessing you used their parking space to go shopping else where. Whilst I think £90 is a bit steep. I do think you should pay something!! Agree. And the same folk that complain of parking fines would be complaining if car parks weren't managed, parking was abused and they could never park. Can't win Of course. The local Council charge is £25 if you pay up straightaway. Fair enough. Like others say, offer to pay £25 if that's the going rate, seems reasonable rather than refusing to pay completely." For 10 minutes? To a company taking the piss by demanding £90 when they have no right to be issuing "fines" anyway? I'd tell them to shove it. | |||
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" you were inLidl for 90 mins good lord what did you buy " Seriously. If there's a sign warning you & you can't justify 90+ minutes then you Gotta expect some recourse. Genuine shoppers wanna park there Mrs _d40 | |||
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"I've ignored no end of these. Legally the contract is with the driver not the registered keeper The problem with that is that the Protection of Freedoms Act makes the registered keeper liable if the driver doesn't pay and some firms are very litigious. All the details are on the MSE site I mentioned above." It's all a minefield but as I said that's based on my personal experience. I wonder if some of these firms are misusing the Protection of Freedoms Act For example http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4/enacted States "“parking place” has the meaning given by section 32(4)(b) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984;" Whilst http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/27/section/32 (which is section 32(4)(b) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984) specifically refers to Local Authorities *not* to Private COmpanies on Private land. ( I do hope providing links to reputable goverment websites is acceptable ) | |||
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"It's not about managing carparks though, that could be done legally and fairly. This is about scamming money off people the same way clamping did. Why else ar so many of these private parking companies run by ex-clampers." It's not even as if "run" amounts to much more than demanding ridiculous sums of money every time they think they might get away with it. | |||
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" you were inLidl for 90 mins good lord what did you buy The company" As second largest food distributor in Europe I highly doubt that | |||
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"is it a parking fine or a parking charge. Fines can be enfoced, parking charges can not and you dont have to pay them " Fines can only be issued by statutory authorities and I am pretty sure that whichever private company runs lidl carparks are not! | |||
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" you were inLidl for 90 mins good lord what did you buy The company As second largest food distributor in Europe I highly doubt that " Me too. I think he was stealing puffin hearts. | |||
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"i wouldnt tho ive not got a credit rating to worry about .thats all that will happen" They can't post anything on there by law. Unless they actually get you to court, a CCJ won't even then show UNLESS collection activities are actioned against it. | |||
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"No, don't pay. Google for how to handle it. There's a lot of information out there. Basically they can't issue parking fines. They've just sent you an invoice in the hope you'll pay it." Spot on, council tickets are enforceable (and should ALWAYS be paid) but all you've got us an invoice for services rendered, the only way for the parking company to get money out of you is via small claims court, ignore it. | |||
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" you were inLidl for 90 mins good lord what did you buy I can't recall the Occaisional,but probably won't to the bank or something too." No sympathy if you used their car park but didn't shop there exclusively for the 90 minutes. Pisses me off when people use my gym's town car park to park there and then go off to into town so the genuine users of the gym can't find a space. | |||
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"If there's no clock, no ticket on entry,how do you know what the time is? Their time could be different to the radio or your phone, and I might not have parked for 10 minutes, if waiting to find a space." As Confucius once said...... "No ticky, no laundry" | |||
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"It happened to me once and I didn't pay. I went into McDonalds on liverpool waterfront but came out the other end and parked by a private wall. When I wanted to leave there was a van in the way so I went back through Maccy D's and out of their entrance/exit. Cameras recorded me In and OUT and said i'd been there hours. Not so. Macdonalds have a bad record in their car parks. People who visit regularly, ie call in for breakfast then also on their way home, have been sent letters saying they were there all day. " People eat that shite twice a day? | |||
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"And how do you know it's not a condition of Lidls planning permission that people can park there to use other shops?" Well if so it would seem simple to do it within the time limit agreed. Works both ways or is that inconvenient? | |||
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"My mother ignored one she received earlier this year and the parking company did in fact issue court proceedings. As someone said earlier the law around this changed last year and the onus is now solely on the registered keeper of the vehicle and action is being taken so my advice is do not just ignore it!" your right, a lot of people don't realize when the government ban wheelclamping it also give new powers to these companys to enable payment on charges | |||
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" you were inLidl for 90 mins good lord what did you buy I can't recall the Occaisional,but probably won't to the bank or something too. No sympathy if you used their car park but didn't shop there exclusively for the 90 minutes. Pisses me off when people use my gym's town car park to park there and then go off to into town so the genuine users of the gym can't find a space. " Get real.it's a car park. I always use the store if I have parked. At Sainsbury shopping qualifies you for free parking and the cashier validates the ticket. | |||
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"I sadly had no choice I was driving a hire car at the time, got hit with their admin charge too. " Ouch! | |||
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"It is a free car park for their customers. You were parked there for 100 mins in total. I'm guessing you used their parking space to go shopping else where. Whilst I think £90 is a bit steep. I do think you should pay something!! You don't know that they didn't shop there. Ok it sounds like they went somewhere else too but for all we know they did shop there." What I meant was they shopped at lidl but also at other shops too. Like other supermarkets, car park signs state the parking is for their customers only. | |||
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"Thanks to all posts. I'll ignore and let you know the result. " Doh! | |||
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"I sadly had no choice I was driving a hire car at the time, got hit with their admin charge too. " Which you could have challenged. | |||
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"I sadly had no choice I was driving a hire car at the time, got hit with their admin charge too. Which you could have challenged." Why they had photo's proving time I arrived and left. First and only time, lesson learnt. | |||
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"Asda trys this stunt at Cardiff City stadium rip ticket up fuck them costs them £233 to take you to court" Some pricks tried fleecing me at Porthcawl G. I didnt reply, they sent two letters and gave in | |||
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