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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Hi people need some advice. I'm having a hard time In work from my overall manager. She feels I'm under performing. I started this job in may 2014. But from sept to nov 2014 I was going through a marriage break up. My wife and I tried an open relationship and I simply could not handle it. I notified work of my personal issues. But in jan 2015 my probation period extended. Any one any advice?

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Are you underperforming?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I have fell behind yes. But I have medical issues as to why this happened I've not revealed it to work yet. I just think they are being harsh

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

not sure what advice can be given really. If you are not performing well enough to have your probation confirmed for whatever reason what else could they do? Do you feel they have broken employment law in their actions? Have they mentioned your performance prior to this? How long has it been extended for?

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By *imply_SensualMan
over a year ago

warrington

If you were under performing that much, they could have got rid of you at the end of your original probationary period. The fact they have extended it means they are giving you a chance to prove the personal issues were in the fact the reasons why your performance dropped.

My advice, takin it a positive and use the opportunity to prove to them that you are worthy of a permanent contract. Don't give them an opportunity to criticise again.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"I have fell behind yes. But I have medical issues as to why this happened I've not revealed it to work yet. I just think they are being harsh "

They're not mind readers! If you want it taken into account you have to tell them!

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Sounds like you have a shite company. Or a shite boss.

Been there done that where you put in dedication despite personal issues and instead 'le-boss' decides to make things difficult. Probationary re_iews/extentions are just that, they essentially mean they dont know if they want to keep you so are allowing the company extra time to make their mind up so they can get rid of you without detriment to them (in so many words)

*sorry fo putting it that wa so early.

IMO, even if you do pass probation, it'll still be as shit in 6 months or a year. Yes you'll be getting a pay chq, but I would be looking around and applying for other work. asap. Dont stay there.

If you think about it, you were honest, with an extremely personal issue, very early in the working relationship. What they have done is create instability. They have not given you any reason to trust them, despite you trusting them with personal info.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Sounds like you have a shite company. Or a shite boss.

Been there done that where you put in dedication despite personal issues and instead 'le-boss' decides to make things difficult. Probationary re_iews/extentions are just that, they essentially mean they dont know if they want to keep you so are allowing the company extra time to make their mind up so they can get rid of you without detriment to them (in so many words)

*sorry fo putting it that wa so early.

IMO, even if you do pass probation, it'll still be as shit in 6 months or a year. Yes you'll be getting a pay chq, but I would be looking around and applying for other work. asap. Dont stay there.

If you think about it, you were honest, with an extremely personal issue, very early in the working relationship. What they have done is create instability. They have not given you any reason to trust them, despite you trusting them with personal info. "

Why are they shite? they don't know if this level of performance is due to the issues or just standard practice. They are giving him another chance. The instability was always there while he was in his probation period. That hasn't changed. He's in the same position now as he was 3 months ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sounds like you have a shite company. Or a shite boss.

Been there done that where you put in dedication despite personal issues and instead 'le-boss' decides to make things difficult. Probationary re_iews/extentions are just that, they essentially mean they dont know if they want to keep you so are allowing the company extra time to make their mind up so they can get rid of you without detriment to them (in so many words)

*sorry fo putting it that wa so early.

IMO, even if you do pass probation, it'll still be as shit in 6 months or a year. Yes you'll be getting a pay chq, but I would be looking around and applying for other work. asap. Dont stay there.

If you think about it, you were honest, with an extremely personal issue, very early in the working relationship. What they have done is create instability. They have not given you any reason to trust them, despite you trusting them with personal info. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have fell behind yes. But I have medical issues as to why this happened I've not revealed it to work yet. I just think they are being harsh

They're not mind readers! If you want it taken into account you have to tell them! "

Yes, hardly rocket science. Communicate with your employers.

Much better to discuss it with them than us (not saying you can't talk about it here, what I mean is that you're more likely to make progress by talking to your bosses)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sounds like you have a shite company. Or a shite boss.

Been there done that where you put in dedication despite personal issues and instead 'le-boss' decides to make things difficult. Probationary re_iews/extentions are just that, they essentially mean they dont know if they want to keep you so are allowing the company extra time to make their mind up so they can get rid of you without detriment to them (in so many words)

*sorry fo putting it that wa so early.

IMO, even if you do pass probation, it'll still be as shit in 6 months or a year. Yes you'll be getting a pay chq, but I would be looking around and applying for other work. asap. Dont stay there.

If you think about it, you were honest, with an extremely personal issue, very early in the working relationship. What they have done is create instability. They have not given you any reason to trust them, despite you trusting them with personal info. "
So glad i dont employ people as their _iews are the total opposite of mine ...They seem like a normal company who are giving the guy every chance,Employers have the right to make money and expect you to perform...they should not be responsible for the issues of their workforce,We live in the real world and not a creche

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

If they didn't want you, try would have given you the job in the first place. Most jobs have a probation period and if you screwed your 6 month one up and underperformed, tell them why. They've given you a third chance now. Make sure they and you know what your smart targets are and try and pass your extended probation. Good luck.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"I have fell behind yes. But I have medical issues as to why this happened I've not revealed it to work yet. I just think they are being harsh "

In that case it seems they are being very fair in giving you another chance to prove you are suitable for the job but if your medical issues are covered by the DDA then you owe it to them and yourself to make them aware of it if they need to make any special provisions for you.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"Sounds like you have a shite company. Or a shite boss.

Been there done that where you put in dedication despite personal issues and instead 'le-boss' decides to make things difficult. Probationary re_iews/extentions are just that, they essentially mean they dont know if they want to keep you so are allowing the company extra time to make their mind up so they can get rid of you without detriment to them (in so many words)

*sorry fo putting it that wa so early.

IMO, even if you do pass probation, it'll still be as shit in 6 months or a year. Yes you'll be getting a pay chq, but I would be looking around and applying for other work. asap. Dont stay there.

If you think about it, you were honest, with an extremely personal issue, very early in the working relationship. What they have done is create instability. They have not given you any reason to trust them, despite you trusting them with personal info.

Why are they shite? they don't know if this level of performance is due to the issues or just standard practice. They are giving him another chance. The instability was always there while he was in his probation period. That hasn't changed. He's in the same position now as he was 3 months ago. "

Surely if he was under performing in 6 months once he passed probation, there would be action plans they would put him through. This should be three tier and if he doesn't pass it, he could still be fired so realistically, passing or not passing probation doesn't really matter.

Even then, depending on how they want to swing any one 'action' the level they deem any disciplinary ... may not even go to action or improvement plans? Bad company, made my mind up

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

Why should they confirm and underperforming persons probation period? We all have things we have to deal with out of work. We all have targets we have to achieve in work. We know this.

If you were having to pick up his slack because things have to get done regardless of personal issues would you be happy to see him become a permanent employee that is harder to dismiss?

The company could have simply terminated his employment but have taken the facts of his situation on board and given him another chance. I would hope they would have set him SMART objectives and targets to hit during his extended probation to help him achieve permanent employment.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

OP.

You say in your original post 'she feels you are underperforming' can we have some clarity.

Are you targeted? It is guess work if it is a personal thing or if you are just lazing about.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Hi people. All responses greatly appreciated. And all points totally valid. I put faith in my employer early in and notified them if my very horrible personal circumstances. Whilst I accept I don't work in a crèche the fact I lost my wife, home and daily access to my kids 10 weeks ago is in my eyes very much a big issue. In re_iews 1,2 and 3 no issues. Performing well engaging with staff. My 6 month re_iew was 7 weeks late. The extent of which the probationary period was extended by was 6 months. Reasons given "ms x not happy with your reports" ..no performance improvement plan. No time scales and no interim re_iews. Right to my medical problems. I attended my doctor 2 days after my marriage break up I was suffering from panic attacks and generally down. In a nut shell depression. I never notified work as I asked my doctor should I? She said I did not have to. Now telling my employer of 7 months I've now been diagnosed with depression was a step to far. So I contacted internal Occupational health asked could they help asked should I notify HR. Response was same as my GP. So Thursday I get meeting request from my direct line manager and head of department stating "performance re_iew"... Thats fair enough. My question is now simple. Do I tell them of my treatment for depression? I'm not seeking a pity party. I'm seeking a fair crack of the whip

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

My post is performance based. I manage a response maintenance contract which is target based. All targets exceeded internally and well above local government targets.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

IMO... ask them for consideration of your circumstances, that any and all re_iews up until now have been fine, and you should not be held responsible for them failing to meet deadlines for their organisation. You have had substantial personal issues to contend with and having a workplace that you can apply yourself to rather than add pressure would be wholly appreciated at this moment.

They should take into account them not doing their re_iews in the appropriate timeframe, is sounds - essentially your boss is covering her arse for not doing them I think. If you can do the job, it'll blow over as soon as and it'll be a welcome distraction from the crap you've gone through I'd think.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

As far as the depression - I would leave that away from work. There is no real need for them to know. If it is still an issue in a period of time, then inform them that you are suffering, but right now, get the re_iew sorted as much as you can, and keep on. Once that re_iew is out of the way, it may well give you a path to apply yourself to if you know what I mean. Just an opinion

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"As far as the depression - I would leave that away from work. There is no real need for them to know. If it is still an issue in a period of time, then inform them that you are suffering, but right now, get the re_iew sorted as much as you can, and keep on. Once that re_iew is out of the way, it may well give you a path to apply yourself to if you know what I mean. Just an opinion"
thank you so much! You have been really helpful.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

what support have you had

what additional coaching did your boss give you

were the shortcomings broken down and an improvement plan agreed with SMART objectives

have you had 121's

when did you performance stop meeting the agreed standard

what has been agreed as part of the under performance moving forward

is it achievable and what plans have you got to raise your performance

can you do additional hours to support any development you need

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have fell behind yes. But I have medical issues as to why this happened I've not revealed it to work yet. I just think they are being harsh

They're not mind readers! If you want it taken into account you have to tell them! "
yes mental health is taken serious now.and help is there but you have to ask for it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hi people. All responses greatly appreciated. And all points totally valid. I put faith in my employer early in and notified them if my very horrible personal circumstances. Whilst I accept I don't work in a crèche the fact I lost my wife, home and daily access to my kids 10 weeks ago is in my eyes very much a big issue. In re_iews 1,2 and 3 no issues. Performing well engaging with staff. My 6 month re_iew was 7 weeks late. The extent of which the probationary period was extended by was 6 months. Reasons given "ms x not happy with your reports" ..no performance improvement plan. No time scales and no interim re_iews. Right to my medical problems. I attended my doctor 2 days after my marriage break up I was suffering from panic attacks and generally down. In a nut shell depression. I never notified work as I asked my doctor should I? She said I did not have to. Now telling my employer of 7 months I've now been diagnosed with depression was a step to far. So I contacted internal Occupational health asked could they help asked should I notify HR. Response was same as my GP. So Thursday I get meeting request from my direct line manager and head of department stating "performance re_iew"... Thats fair enough. My question is now simple. Do I tell them of my treatment for depression? I'm not seeking a pity party. I'm seeking a fair crack of the whip "
Your hardly giving your line manager a fair crack...........your issues are not her fault. Do you expect her to come to work with a crystal ball With your issues surely you should have taken time off and been signed off by your doctor,what good advice are you expecting from a swingers site you will have ndividuals on here that are ranging from work shy benefit scrounging idiots right up to people that employ lots of others so therefore all answers are going to be different which will further complicate your issues.

Your quite willing to ask the advice of Bellinda big fanny from Arboath for advice but on the other hand hide your underperformance issues from the people you should be telling.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

break down your performance and highlight the fact that you meeting the standards from your start date right the way through to the period that you say you had difficulties, that supports you CAN do it, putting the problems behind you and you will be again...

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

that you were meeting*

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"As far as the depression - I would leave that away from work. There is no real need for them to know. If it is still an issue in a period of time, then inform them that you are suffering, but right now, get the re_iew sorted as much as you can, and keep on. Once that re_iew is out of the way, it may well give you a path to apply yourself to if you know what I mean. Just an opinion thank you so much! You have been really helpful. "

Just gain some perspective. If they are extending your probation, it should be done with two managers, one with luck should be her senior. State a few things to shoot across their bows in that meeting. Ask them, why you didnt have xyz as an interim or when your probation date was up, that you have passed xyz, that you have met xyz target yet received no praise/notification. It is more than likely they will be fairly well practiced in managing staff, so tell them that you think that it is unfair not to notify staff of important milestones like this an that you are being extended. (they will be using buzzwords - so try and use a few minor buzz words yourself and tie them up/make them/the operational side of the business mildly accountable, not any one specific person)

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"Hi people. All responses greatly appreciated. And all points totally valid. I put faith in my employer early in and notified them if my very horrible personal circumstances. Whilst I accept I don't work in a crèche the fact I lost my wife, home and daily access to my kids 10 weeks ago is in my eyes very much a big issue. In re_iews 1,2 and 3 no issues. Performing well engaging with staff. My 6 month re_iew was 7 weeks late. The extent of which the probationary period was extended by was 6 months. Reasons given "ms x not happy with your reports" ..no performance improvement plan. No time scales and no interim re_iews. Right to my medical problems. I attended my doctor 2 days after my marriage break up I was suffering from panic attacks and generally down. In a nut shell depression. I never notified work as I asked my doctor should I? She said I did not have to. Now telling my employer of 7 months I've now been diagnosed with depression was a step to far. So I contacted internal Occupational health asked could they help asked should I notify HR. Response was same as my GP. So Thursday I get meeting request from my direct line manager and head of department stating "performance re_iew"... Thats fair enough. My question is now simple. Do I tell them of my treatment for depression? I'm not seeking a pity party. I'm seeking a fair crack of the whip Your hardly giving your line manager a fair crack...........your issues are not her fault. Do you expect her to come to work with a crystal ball With your issues surely you should have taken time off and been signed off by your doctor,what good advice are you expecting from a swingers site you will have ndividuals on here that are ranging from work shy benefit scrounging idiots right up to people that employ lots of others so therefore all answers are going to be different which will further complicate your issues.

Your quite willing to ask the advice of Bellinda big fanny from Arboath for advice but on the other hand hide your underperformance issues from the people you should be telling."

I am betting here, that you own your own business?

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Join a Union, they come in very handy.

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts

I haven't read the other comments. If your probation has been extended then work your arse off. My probation was extended when I was told by my boss I wasn't allowed to come back to work until an occupational therapist has seen my medical notes. I was then fired 2 weeks before the end of my probation

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Hi people. All responses greatly appreciated. And all points totally valid. I put faith in my employer early in and notified them if my very horrible personal circumstances. Whilst I accept I don't work in a crèche the fact I lost my wife, home and daily access to my kids 10 weeks ago is in my eyes very much a big issue. In re_iews 1,2 and 3 no issues. Performing well engaging with staff. My 6 month re_iew was 7 weeks late. The extent of which the probationary period was extended by was 6 months. Reasons given "ms x not happy with your reports" ..no performance improvement plan. No time scales and no interim re_iews. Right to my medical problems. I attended my doctor 2 days after my marriage break up I was suffering from panic attacks and generally down. In a nut shell depression. I never notified work as I asked my doctor should I? She said I did not have to. Now telling my employer of 7 months I've now been diagnosed with depression was a step to far. So I contacted internal Occupational health asked could they help asked should I notify HR. Response was same as my GP. So Thursday I get meeting request from my direct line manager and head of department stating "performance re_iew"... Thats fair enough. My question is now simple. Do I tell them of my treatment for depression? I'm not seeking a pity party. I'm seeking a fair crack of the whip Your hardly giving your line manager a fair crack...........your issues are not her fault. Do you expect her to come to work with a crystal ball With your issues surely you should have taken time off and been signed off by your doctor,what good advice are you expecting from a swingers site you will have ndividuals on here that are ranging from work shy benefit scrounging idiots right up to people that employ lots of others so therefore all answers are going to be different which will further complicate your issues.

Your quite willing to ask the advice of Bellinda big fanny from Arboath for advice but on the other hand hide your underperformance issues from the people you should be telling."
all points duly noted! And your right! I agree!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I haven't read the other comments. If your probation has been extended then work your arse off. My probation was extended when I was told by my boss I wasn't allowed to come back to work until an occupational therapist has seen my medical notes. I was then fired 2 weeks before the end of my probation "
I've mailed ya pvt! Thanks for response xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Join a Union, they come in very handy. "
done!! Lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"As far as the depression - I would leave that away from work. There is no real need for them to know. If it is still an issue in a period of time, then inform them that you are suffering, but right now, get the re_iew sorted as much as you can, and keep on. Once that re_iew is out of the way, it may well give you a path to apply yourself to if you know what I mean. Just an opinion thank you so much! You have been really helpful.

Just gain some perspective. If they are extending your probation, it should be done with two managers, one with luck should be her senior. State a few things to shoot across their bows in that meeting. Ask them, why you didnt have xyz as an interim or when your probation date was up, that you have passed xyz, that you have met xyz target yet received no praise/notification. It is more than likely they will be fairly well practiced in managing staff, so tell them that you think that it is unfair not to notify staff of important milestones like this an that you are being extended. (they will be using buzzwords - so try and use a few minor buzz words yourself and tie them up/make them/the operational side of the business mildly accountable, not any one specific person) "
pvt msg me! I need some pointers! Is that ok?

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

Your employer pays you to work.

They clearly feel you are not fulfilling your side of the contract so have given you a second chance to prove yourself.

If you want the job, grasp that chance with both hands, and prove they were right to give you that second chance.

If you don't, start looking for another job now.

Many people will advise you of either this law, or that requirement, which you can use to beat your employer with, but working with your employer to resolve any difficulties will always be more productive than trying to keep your job by fighting them.

And yes, since it is affecting your performance, not only would I be honest about your problems, but I would also reassure them that you will not let it affect you any longer.

Best of luck

Mr ddc

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"Join a Union, they come in very handy. "

Certainly worked well for all the miners and steelworkers round our way!

Mr ddc

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Your employer pays you to work.

They clearly feel you are not fulfilling your side of the contract so have given you a second chance to prove yourself.

If you want the job, grasp that chance with both hands, and prove they were right to give you that second chance.

If you don't, start looking for another job now.

Many people will advise you of either this law, or that requirement, which you can use to beat your employer with, but working with your employer to resolve any difficulties will always be more productive than trying to keep your job by fighting them.

And yes, since it is affecting your performance, not only would I be honest about your problems, but I would also reassure them that you will not let it affect you any longer.

Best of luck

Mr ddc"
that's all I want! I know this is a second chance. But I want it measured and formalised. Not as hoc and whisy washy. I don't want to fight. I just want to do my job and get job satisfaction. Not dread every day in work that it maybe my last. It's a horrible feeling

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have fell behind yes. But I have medical issues as to why this happened I've not revealed it to work yet. I just think they are being harsh "

As others have said, just tell them about your medical issues. My boss is understanding about things medical or family stuff, as long as we are upfront with her, she has to tell her bosses but we are allowed time off for genuine things. Im sure they will appreciate your honesty. good luck

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire


"

An that's all I want! I know this is a second chance. But I want it measured and formalised. Not as hoc and whisy washy. I don't want to fight. I just want to do my job and get job satisfaction. Not dread every day in work that it maybe my last. It's a horrible feeling "

Each day isn't potentially your last. They have given you 6 months more.

I understand you feel you are on a downward spiral, but I worry that this is your depression talking, not the real you. Remember the real you got this job, and have done it well enough to be given a second chance.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"

An that's all I want! I know this is a second chance. But I want it measured and formalised. Not as hoc and whisy washy. I don't want to fight. I just want to do my job and get job satisfaction. Not dread every day in work that it maybe my last. It's a horrible feeling

Each day isn't potentially your last. They have given you 6 months more.

I understand you feel you are on a downward spiral, but I worry that this is your depression talking, not the real you. Remember the real you got this job, and have done it well enough to be given a second chance.

"
thank you so much! Just what I needed thank you!

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By *trawberry-popWoman
over a year ago

South East Midlands NOT


"If you were under performing that much, they could have got rid of you at the end of your original probationary period. The fact they have extended it means they are giving you a chance to prove the personal issues were in the fact the reasons why your performance dropped.

My advice, takin it a positive and use the opportunity to prove to them that you are worthy of a permanent contract. Don't give them an opportunity to criticise again."

I'd agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When you have depression you don't always see things clearly. I'm in two minds about you telling your work, I'm just thinking , if you are on medication should they know ? I understand your reluctance to tell them, but most employers are very understanding nowadays. Plus I know where I work , they will pay for counselling too.

They should give you clear targets. I'd take it as a good sign that they extended your probation. Write notes before you go into your next re_iew , all the positives you've achieved and any questions you have . Then keep referring to it . It'll help you focus and look like you've prepared well .

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By *bfoxxxMan
over a year ago

Crete or LANCASTER

Write everything down and keep a note of everything that's said.

If there are any memo's or written instructions, policies, procedures etc, copy them.

Make comparisons of your work to others.

If they have it in for you, don't expect your workmates to help out.They won't. They will cover their own arses and protect their own job.

I won an unfair dismissal against a major high street retailer, but in retrospect I would have been better off getting signed off work with stress. The disciplinary procedures lapse after a time, 6 months, and they have to start disciplinary procedures again.

Save all the stress and hassle, seriously, get another job.

You'll get a reference because they want rid of you.

If you are in a union,talk to them.

Attack is the best defence, don't be a victim.

What is the company getting wrong?

Any dodgy practices?

Any inappropriate behaviour, or comments by your boss?

Be honest,do they have a point?

If you were the boss,what would you do in the same circumstances?

In my case the company got it wrong, and their actions were not those of a reasonable employer.

Be prepared, good luck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hi people. All responses greatly appreciated. And all points totally valid. I put faith in my employer early in and notified them if my very horrible personal circumstances. Whilst I accept I don't work in a crèche the fact I lost my wife, home and daily access to my kids 10 weeks ago is in my eyes very much a big issue. In re_iews 1,2 and 3 no issues. Performing well engaging with staff. My 6 month re_iew was 7 weeks late. The extent of which the probationary period was extended by was 6 months. Reasons given "ms x not happy with your reports" ..no performance improvement plan. No time scales and no interim re_iews. Right to my medical problems. I attended my doctor 2 days after my marriage break up I was suffering from panic attacks and generally down. In a nut shell depression. I never notified work as I asked my doctor should I? She said I did not have to. Now telling my employer of 7 months I've now been diagnosed with depression was a step to far. So I contacted internal Occupational health asked could they help asked should I notify HR. Response was same as my GP. So Thursday I get meeting request from my direct line manager and head of department stating "performance re_iew"... Thats fair enough. My question is now simple. Do I tell them of my treatment for depression? I'm not seeking a pity party. I'm seeking a fair crack of the whip Your hardly giving your line manager a fair crack...........your issues are not her fault. Do you expect her to come to work with a crystal ball With your issues surely you should have taken time off and been signed off by your doctor,what good advice are you expecting from a swingers site you will have ndividuals on here that are ranging from work shy benefit scrounging idiots right up to people that employ lots of others so therefore all answers are going to be different which will further complicate your issues.

Your quite willing to ask the advice of Bellinda big fanny from Arboath for advice but on the other hand hide your underperformance issues from the people you should be telling.

I am betting here, that you own your own business?"
We are both self employed,We could not carry a person who was not pulling his weight as we work in teams of 2,Each has responsibilities and if one fails to see out their part the money dries up and everyone suffers....if my mate had problems like this i would have no option other than dump him and take on half of the work as he would not be capable of earning and apart from that i would think his standards would slip also.

Those crying join a union are misinforming the guy as he is on probation...he is not permanent...the union can do nothing(at one time i was a shop steward) believe me these days the company ALWAYS comes out on top ,the guys only chance here is to be upfront and honest with firstly his line manager then hopefully carrying that through to hr.... its a harsh world out there and no one owes anyone anything

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By *bfoxxxMan
over a year ago

Crete or LANCASTER

If you are in a probationary period most of the above doesn't apply.

It's down to you.

You could speak to the next level of management up, particularly if you feel aggrieved.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"If you are in a probationary period most of the above doesn't apply.

It's down to you.

You could speak to the next level of management up, particularly if you feel aggrieved.

"

This is a really good option but kicking sand up at such an early stage in a career isn't always good.

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By *erbyDalesCplCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire

Good luck tomorrow OP.

Hope it gets easier.

Mr ddc

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