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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

David Cameron and Prince Charles are attending the mourning days of the passing of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia

Should a member of the Royal Family and the first Lord attend a diplomatic event of a country that forbids a woman to drive a car, publicly beheads a woman accused of murder and imposes a 1000 lashes on a journalist that dared to question the Saudi regime ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"David Cameron and Prince Charles are attending the mourning days of the passing of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia

Should a member of the Royal Family and the first Lord attend a diplomatic event of a country that forbids a woman to drive a car, publicly beheads a woman accused of murder and imposes a 1000 lashes on a journalist that dared to question the Saudi regime ?"

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Why not the queen sits chatting about horses with most of them at Ascot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah it's cool. Would rather they mourned the people they sanctioned and killed tbh. Or anyone who died in a war they started, but you know our reality isn't their thing...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"David Cameron and Prince Charles are attending the mourning days of the passing of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia

Should a member of the Royal Family and the first Lord attend a diplomatic event of a country that forbids a woman to drive a car, publicly beheads a woman accused of murder and imposes a 1000 lashes on a journalist that dared to question the Saudi regime ?.

Why not the queen sits chatting about horses with most of them at Ascot."

Boom !!

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Perhaps they put on one heck of a buffet. I've been to wakes for similar reasons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Actually Abdullah was one of the reformers in Saudi and fought to get women more recognition

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"David Cameron and Prince Charles are attending the mourning days of the passing of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia

Should a member of the Royal Family and the first Lord attend a diplomatic event of a country that forbids a woman to drive a car, publicly beheads a woman accused of murder and imposes a 1000 lashes on a journalist that dared to question the Saudi regime ?.

Why not the queen sits chatting about horses with most of them at Ascot.

Boom !!"

.Lol

They appreciate a good ruling honour system, it sits well with their tribal beliefs, they just can't believe how slack that old bitch is with all the descenters of Andrews sex life which clearly fits in perfect with an Islamic king!

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By *carineMan
over a year ago

Armthorpe, Doncaster

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By *carineMan
over a year ago

Armthorpe, Doncaster


"Perhaps they put on one heck of a buffet. I've been to wakes for similar reasons. "

Well the family have now got a spare tea towel if you`re a messy eater...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"David Cameron and Prince Charles are attending the mourning days of the passing of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia

Should a member of the Royal Family and the first Lord attend a diplomatic event of a country that forbids a woman to drive a car, publicly beheads a woman accused of murder and imposes a 1000 lashes on a journalist that dared to question the Saudi regime ?"

They have oil, lots of it.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Not so keen on that gag, I'd have gone with a spare seat at the table.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What do we know about the new king, apart from he's one of the original 9 million sons of said!

He's as big a cunt as the last one and will cause as much trouble as the last one.

I like the fact that they spend all their life's in affluent palaces rejecting anything un Muhammed and then get buried in poverty as some sort of redemption

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sons of saud ... Bloody spell checker.

At least saud actually believed in what he said. When they discovered vast oil in Saudi back in the 30,s he wanted to leave it in the ground.

His exact words were "no good will come of it"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Sons of saud ... Bloody spell checker.

At least saud actually believed in what he said. When they discovered vast oil in Saudi back in the 30,s he wanted to leave it in the ground.

His exact words were "no good will come of it""

He was right!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"David Cameron and Prince Charles are attending the mourning days of the passing of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia

Should a member of the Royal Family and the first Lord attend a diplomatic event of a country that forbids a woman to drive a car, publicly beheads a woman accused of murder and imposes a 1000 lashes on a journalist that dared to question the Saudi regime ?"

It's good for relations I guess, human rights isn't probably her major consideration when popping over for a cup of tea

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

Realistically if they didn't go, in two months time, the only people who will remember are the Saudi royal family. That would probably cost UK jobs. Why cut our noses off to spite our faces, even if not attending is the moral thing to do?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

Whilst I have no great love for Saudi Arabia or the way it is run as a theocracy. And it does have a pretty bad record on human rights, there is a time and a place for everything.

This king was probably the most reformist king they've had in Saudi and, although by our standards still lacking, has done a lot to improve the position of women in Saudi.

The death of a countries leader is not the time to overly criticise either the country or the leader. Let them morn his passing and we can highlight the better things he did during this time. Later we can get back to talking and trying to tackle the things that are still wrong in Saudi.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think they let you "mourn" for him either here or in Saudi.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

He he, as a country who has been to war with nearly every country in the world (even Iceland over fish), who's human rights has not been exactly brilliant in the past, be passing judgement.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"He he, as a country who has been to war with nearly every country in the world (even Iceland over fish), who's human rights has not been exactly brilliant in the past, be passing judgement. "

I think, compared to a lot of other countries around the world and especially in the Middle East, we can be pretty pleased about our record on human rights. In this country the discussions on human rights are about the rights of prisoners to vote or potential deportees to have a family life. In a lot of the rest of the world human rights is about whether you should have any life at all for simply disagreeing with the people in charge. To me that's a pretty important difference and something we should be glad of.

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By *irtydanMan
over a year ago

Blackpool


"David Cameron and Prince Charles are attending the mourning days of the passing of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia

Should a member of the Royal Family and the first Lord attend a diplomatic event of a country that forbids a woman to drive a car, publicly beheads a woman accused of murder and imposes a 1000 lashes on a journalist that dared to question the Saudi regime ?"

what about all the money they bring to this country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"David Cameron and Prince Charles are attending the mourning days of the passing of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia

Should a member of the Royal Family and the first Lord attend a diplomatic event of a country that forbids a woman to drive a car, publicly beheads a woman accused of murder and imposes a 1000 lashes on a journalist that dared to question the Saudi regime ?what about all the money they bring to this country "

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What about it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can see your point to an extent hun. But look at it this way, if we don't show our respects on the passing of the last king, how can we hope to have a positive influence on the new king when it comes to womens/human rights? Xx

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills


"He he, as a country who has been to war with nearly every country in the world (even Iceland over fish), who's human rights has not been exactly brilliant in the past, be passing judgement.

I think, compared to a lot of other countries around the world and especially in the Middle East, we can be pretty pleased about our record on human rights. In this country the discussions on human rights are about the rights of prisoners to vote or potential deportees to have a family life. In a lot of the rest of the world human rights is about whether you should have any life at all for simply disagreeing with the people in charge. To me that's a pretty important difference and something we should be glad of. "

I think "in the past" is relevant here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He he, as a country who has been to war with nearly every country in the world (even Iceland over fish), who's human rights has not been exactly brilliant in the past, be passing judgement.

I think, compared to a lot of other countries around the world and especially in the Middle East, we can be pretty pleased about our record on human rights. In this country the discussions on human rights are about the rights of prisoners to vote or potential deportees to have a family life. In a lot of the rest of the world human rights is about whether you should have any life at all for simply disagreeing with the people in charge. To me that's a pretty important difference and something we should be glad of.

I think "in the past" is relevant here. "

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No you can't compare our human rights record 400 years ago to somebody else's today.

It's not like their a third world country who doesn't know any better!.

Most of them have had the finest education money can buy, they just refuse to accept it into their belief structure, as they feel the minute they accept one change, it will open the flood gate for all the others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He he, as a country who has been to war with nearly every country in the world (even Iceland over fish), who's human rights has not been exactly brilliant in the past, be passing judgement.

I think, compared to a lot of other countries around the world and especially in the Middle East, we can be pretty pleased about our record on human rights. In this country the discussions on human rights are about the rights of prisoners to vote or potential deportees to have a family life. In a lot of the rest of the world human rights is about whether you should have any life at all for simply disagreeing with the people in charge. To me that's a pretty important difference and something we should be glad of.

I think "in the past" is relevant here. "

Absolutely! How long are we expected to be ashamed of our ancestors? There is barely a country out there without skeletons in their closet - and in many countries human rights are something people merely dream of/fight for!

In spite of our imperfections, we are one of the most tolerant countries on earth (hence many thousands of immigrants choose to live here without fear!) and we value human life so much that we are one of the few countries with free healthcare for all!

I for one am very thankfull that I was born here rather than Africa, India, China, Russia etc etc. Compared to about nine tenths of the globe we have nothing to complain about living here!!

(Right - job done, i'll climb down off my high horse now!! ) xx

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By *rtemisiaWoman
over a year ago

Norwich


"David Cameron and Prince Charles are attending the mourning days of the passing of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia

Should a member of the Royal Family and the first Lord attend a diplomatic event of a country that forbids a woman to drive a car, publicly beheads a woman accused of murder and imposes a 1000 lashes on a journalist that dared to question the Saudi regime ?

They have oil, lots of it."

Hence flags at half mast on Buckingham Palace.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Henry Kissinger got into bed with the new king after faisals death in 76 and they've been in bed with them ever since.

The agreement being you keep pumping the oil and we'll protect you from your enemies and supply you with weapons.

I don't think alot has changed since.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"He he, as a country who has been to war with nearly every country in the world (even Iceland over fish), who's human rights has not been exactly brilliant in the past, be passing judgement.

I think, compared to a lot of other countries around the world and especially in the Middle East, we can be pretty pleased about our record on human rights. In this country the discussions on human rights are about the rights of prisoners to vote or potential deportees to have a family life. In a lot of the rest of the world human rights is about whether you should have any life at all for simply disagreeing with the people in charge. To me that's a pretty important difference and something we should be glad of.

I think "in the past" is relevant here.

Absolutely! How long are we expected to be ashamed of our ancestors? There is barely a country out there without skeletons in their closet - and in many countries human rights are something people merely dream of/fight for!

In spite of our imperfections, we are one of the most tolerant countries on earth (hence many thousands of immigrants choose to live here without fear!) and we value human life so much that we are one of the few countries with free healthcare for all!

I for one am very thankfull that I was born here rather than Africa, India, China, Russia etc etc. Compared to about nine tenths of the globe we have nothing to complain about living here!!

(Right - job done, i'll climb down off my high horse now!! ) xx"

Feel free to climb on me anytime instead. !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He he, as a country who has been to war with nearly every country in the world (even Iceland over fish), who's human rights has not been exactly brilliant in the past, be passing judgement.

I think, compared to a lot of other countries around the world and especially in the Middle East, we can be pretty pleased about our record on human rights. In this country the discussions on human rights are about the rights of prisoners to vote or potential deportees to have a family life. In a lot of the rest of the world human rights is about whether you should have any life at all for simply disagreeing with the people in charge. To me that's a pretty important difference and something we should be glad of.

I think "in the past" is relevant here.

Absolutely! How long are we expected to be ashamed of our ancestors? There is barely a country out there without skeletons in their closet - and in many countries human rights are something people merely dream of/fight for!

In spite of our imperfections, we are one of the most tolerant countries on earth (hence many thousands of immigrants choose to live here without fear!) and we value human life so much that we are one of the few countries with free healthcare for all!

I for one am very thankfull that I was born here rather than Africa, India, China, Russia etc etc. Compared to about nine tenths of the globe we have nothing to complain about living here!!

(Right - job done, i'll climb down off my high horse now!! ) xx

Feel free to climb on me anytime instead. !! "

You're all heart!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"(Right - job done, i'll climb down off my high horse now!! ) xx

Feel free to climb on me anytime instead. !!

You're all heart! "

I do have another good feature to you know. he he

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Whilst I have no great love for Saudi Arabia or the way it is run as a theocracy. And it does have a pretty bad record on human rights, there is a time and a place for everything.

This king was probably the most reformist king they've had in Saudi and, although by our standards still lacking, has done a lot to improve the position of women in Saudi.

The death of a countries leader is not the time to overly criticise either the country or the leader. Let them morn his passing and we can highlight the better things he did during this time. Later we can get back to talking and trying to tackle the things that are still wrong in Saudi. "

this..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He he, as a country who has been to war with nearly every country in the world (even Iceland over fish), who's human rights has not been exactly brilliant in the past, be passing judgement.

I think, compared to a lot of other countries around the world and especially in the Middle East, we can be pretty pleased about our record on human rights. In this country the discussions on human rights are about the rights of prisoners to vote or potential deportees to have a family life. In a lot of the rest of the world human rights is about whether you should have any life at all for simply disagreeing with the people in charge. To me that's a pretty important difference and something we should be glad of.

I think "in the past" is relevant here.

Absolutely! How long are we expected to be ashamed of our ancestors? There is barely a country out there without skeletons in their closet - and in many countries human rights are something people merely dream of/fight for!

In spite of our imperfections, we are one of the most tolerant countries on earth (hence many thousands of immigrants choose to live here without fear!) and we value human life so much that we are one of the few countries with free healthcare for all!

I for one am very thankfull that I was born here rather than Africa, India, China, Russia etc etc. Compared to about nine tenths of the globe we have nothing to complain about living here!!

(Right - job done, i'll climb down off my high horse now!! ) xx"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He he, as a country who has been to war with nearly every country in the world (even Iceland over fish), who's human rights has not been exactly brilliant in the past, be passing judgement.

I think, compared to a lot of other countries around the world and especially in the Middle East, we can be pretty pleased about our record on human rights. In this country the discussions on human rights are about the rights of prisoners to vote or potential deportees to have a family life. In a lot of the rest of the world human rights is about whether you should have any life at all for simply disagreeing with the people in charge. To me that's a pretty important difference and something we should be glad of.

I think "in the past" is relevant here.

Absolutely! How long are we expected to be ashamed of our ancestors? There is barely a country out there without skeletons in their closet - and in many countries human rights are something people merely dream of/fight for!

In spite of our imperfections, we are one of the most tolerant countries on earth (hence many thousands of immigrants choose to live here without fear!) and we value human life so much that we are one of the few countries with free healthcare for all!

I for one am very thankfull that I was born here rather than Africa, India, China, Russia etc etc. Compared to about nine tenths of the globe we have nothing to complain about living here!!Yes agree with all thee above 100%

(Right - job done, i'll climb down off my high horse now!! ) xx"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"He he, as a country who has been to war with nearly every country in the world (even Iceland over fish), who's human rights has not been exactly brilliant in the past, be passing judgement.

I think, compared to a lot of other countries around the world and especially in the Middle East, we can be pretty pleased about our record on human rights. In this country the discussions on human rights are about the rights of prisoners to vote or potential deportees to have a family life. In a lot of the rest of the world human rights is about whether you should have any life at all for simply disagreeing with the people in charge. To me that's a pretty important difference and something we should be glad of.

I think "in the past" is relevant here.

Absolutely! How long are we expected to be ashamed of our ancestors? There is barely a country out there without skeletons in their closet - and in many countries human rights are something people merely dream of/fight for!

In spite of our imperfections, we are one of the most tolerant countries on earth (hence many thousands of immigrants choose to live here without fear!) and we value human life so much that we are one of the few countries with free healthcare for all!

I for one am very thankfull that I was born here rather than Africa, India, China, Russia etc etc. Compared to about nine tenths of the globe we have nothing to complain about living here!!

(Right - job done, i'll climb down off my high horse now!! ) xx"

You should run for election!

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By *carineMan
over a year ago

Armthorpe, Doncaster

How many Saudi kings does it take to change a lightbulb?

Change?

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