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"1st answer - Has it been made public? If not then, the question is wrong. 2nd answer - I dont know, its just a guess. Can you offer any answers to your own questions?" No, it hasn't been made public, despite the last interviews being conducted in 2011. Its publication is being delayed until after the election. And yes, I think we would have a safer environment had we not sought to invade Iraq and depose Sadaam for reasons which had little to do with an imminent threat to the UK and more to do with the US wanting to exert some control over oil in the region. Would it have been the same/worse had we not invaded, we will never know, but I wonder had Blair known then what we know now would he still have been so keen to do what he did, perhaps we will find out in due course. | |||
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"If we'd not invaded Iraq then I don't think ISIS would be around. The yanks were so gung-ho to get in there and get Saddam, they didn't really think about what would happen when he was dealt with " Sadam was the excuse to invade, the oil was the reason.. whether IS would have developed as quickly is an interesting one given they seem to have spun off from al quaida/taliban and those types have been active in other areas also.. | |||
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"Why has it taken so long for this to be made public? Looking back at Robin Cooks resignation at the time (which as just been nominated as one of the best speeches given in Parliaments 750 year history) one has to admire his stance and his foresight, predicting as he did many of the issues we now face today. Had we not engaged in an illegal war do we think that we would have a safer environment today?" Does it really matter whats done is done. Why do we have to waste millions on a report! The mother of a soldier who died by a roadside bomb says she feels let down by the delay. What is she going to gain from it . The loss of life of any of our armed forces is very sad | |||
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"Why has it taken so long for this to be made public? Looking back at Robin Cooks resignation at the time (which as just been nominated as one of the best speeches given in Parliaments 750 year history) one has to admire his stance and his foresight, predicting as he did many of the issues we now face today. Had we not engaged in an illegal war do we think that we would have a safer environment today? Does it really matter whats done is done. Why do we have to waste millions on a report! The mother of a soldier who died by a roadside bomb says she feels let down by the delay. What is she going to gain from it . The loss of life of any of our armed forces is very sad " | |||
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" Does it really matter whats done is done. Why do we have to waste millions on a report! The mother of a soldier who died by a roadside bomb says she feels let down by the delay. What is she going to gain from it . The loss of life of any of our armed forces is very sad "it matters greatly to those such as that Mum who wants answers etc .. also it matters because if we don't learn the lessons of history we only tend to make them again.. if in future a jingoistic low in the polls PM thinks twice about committing our armed forces as the evidence is not clear and in the past Chilcott showed the Iraq war was illegal, then that can only be for the benefit of us all.. if.. | |||
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" Does it really matter whats done is done. Why do we have to waste millions on a report! The mother of a soldier who died by a roadside bomb says she feels let down by the delay. What is she going to gain from it . The loss of life of any of our armed forces is very sad
it matters greatly to those such as that Mum who wants answers etc ..
also it matters because if we don't learn the lessons of history we only tend to make them again..
if in future a jingoistic low in the polls PM thinks twice about committing our armed forces as the evidence is not clear and in the past Chilcott showed the Iraq war was illegal, then that can only be for the benefit of us all..
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" Does it really matter whats done is done. Why do we have to waste millions on a report! The mother of a soldier who died by a roadside bomb says she feels let down by the delay. What is she going to gain from it . The loss of life of any of our armed forces is very sad
it matters greatly to those such as that Mum who wants answers etc ..
also it matters because if we don't learn the lessons of history we only tend to make them again..
if in future a jingoistic low in the polls PM thinks twice about committing our armed forces as the evidence is not clear and in the past Chilcott showed the Iraq war was illegal, then that can only be for the benefit of us all..
if.."It doesn't matter we will still keep making the same mistakes though. | |||
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" Does it really matter whats done is done. Why do we have to waste millions on a report! The mother of a soldier who died by a roadside bomb says she feels let down by the delay. What is she going to gain from it . The loss of life of any of our armed forces is very sad
it matters greatly to those such as that Mum who wants answers etc ..
also it matters because if we don't learn the lessons of history we only tend to make them again..
if in future a jingoistic low in the polls PM thinks twice about committing our armed forces as the evidence is not clear and in the past Chilcott showed the Iraq war was illegal, then that can only be for the benefit of us all..
if..
It doesn't matter we will still keep making the same mistakes though."hence, if.. i tend to agree with you (there's a first  ) but have this innate hope that one day long after we are all dust that the penny may drop.. | |||
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" Does it really matter whats done is done. Why do we have to waste millions on a report! The mother of a soldier who died by a roadside bomb says she feels let down by the delay. What is she going to gain from it . The loss of life of any of our armed forces is very sad
it matters greatly to those such as that Mum who wants answers etc ..
also it matters because if we don't learn the lessons of history we only tend to make them again..
if in future a jingoistic low in the polls PM thinks twice about committing our armed forces as the evidence is not clear and in the past Chilcott showed the Iraq war was illegal, then that can only be for the benefit of us all..
if.."With out being nasty if you sign up to the armed forces you know that you could die. Or if the war is found to be illegal is the lady looking for a claim. | |||
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" Does it really matter whats done is done. Why do we have to waste millions on a report! The mother of a soldier who died by a roadside bomb says she feels let down by the delay. What is she going to gain from it . The loss of life of any of our armed forces is very sad
it matters greatly to those such as that Mum who wants answers etc ..
also it matters because if we don't learn the lessons of history we only tend to make them again..
if in future a jingoistic low in the polls PM thinks twice about committing our armed forces as the evidence is not clear and in the past Chilcott showed the Iraq war was illegal, then that can only be for the benefit of us all..
if..
With out being nasty if you sign up to the armed forces you know that you could die.
Or if the war is found to be illegal is the lady looking for a claim.
"yep been there and got the bits of tin etc.. honestly who knows however if it was proven in law that it was an illegal act then why should anyone not be entitled to recompense should they choose to want to go down that route.. if it was a woman left with 3 small children to raise post the same outcome does she not an entitlement to seek redress under the law..? | |||
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" Does it really matter whats done is done. Why do we have to waste millions on a report! The mother of a soldier who died by a roadside bomb says she feels let down by the delay. What is she going to gain from it . The loss of life of any of our armed forces is very sad
it matters greatly to those such as that Mum who wants answers etc ..
also it matters because if we don't learn the lessons of history we only tend to make them again..
if in future a jingoistic low in the polls PM thinks twice about committing our armed forces as the evidence is not clear and in the past Chilcott showed the Iraq war was illegal, then that can only be for the benefit of us all..
if..
It doesn't matter we will still keep making the same mistakes though.
hence, if..
i tend to agree with you (there's a first ) but have this innate hope that one day long after we are all dust that the penny may drop.."It is why I admire Robin Cook. He had the conviction in his belief that the war was wrong and that there was insufficient evidence to support it. He trusted the British people who were not convinced that there was a justification to send troops to Iraq and stood shoulder to shoulder with them. If only a few more of our spineless politicians at the time had taken the same view. | |||
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" Does it really matter whats done is done. Why do we have to waste millions on a report! The mother of a soldier who died by a roadside bomb says she feels let down by the delay. What is she going to gain from it . The loss of life of any of our armed forces is very sad
it matters greatly to those such as that Mum who wants answers etc ..
also it matters because if we don't learn the lessons of history we only tend to make them again..
if in future a jingoistic low in the polls PM thinks twice about committing our armed forces as the evidence is not clear and in the past Chilcott showed the Iraq war was illegal, then that can only be for the benefit of us all..
if..
With out being nasty if you sign up to the armed forces you know that you could die.
Or if the war is found to be illegal is the lady looking for a claim.
yep been there and got the bits of tin etc..
honestly who knows however if it was proven in law that it was an illegal act then why should anyone not be entitled to recompense should they choose to want to go down that route..
if it was a woman left with 3 small children to raise post the same outcome does she not an entitlement to seek redress under the law..?
"I would assume that if someone is killed in action that there would be some form of payout which we know would never be enough! | |||
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" It is why I admire Robin Cook. He had the conviction in his belief that the war was wrong and that there was insufficient evidence to support it. He trusted the British people who were not convinced that there was a justification to send troops to Iraq and stood shoulder to shoulder with them. If only a few more of our spineless politicians at the time had taken the same view." agreed.. i found it a bit sad watching the Politicians at the solidarity march in Paris over the recent killings, although i agree with the reason they stood and marched together i cant help but think if more of them had joined us when we marched here in opposition to the war in 2003 whether it may have had more of an impact.. probably not.. | |||
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"I was watching the ITV news just then on about the subject, usual thing news reporter boring the tits off me whilst stood on the grass outside the Houses. Some guy kept walking back and fore behind her holding a dead rat at arms length. I have no idea why either"
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probably because a dead rat stinks..? | |||
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"I was watching the ITV news just then on about the subject, usual thing news reporter boring the tits off me whilst stood on the grass outside the Houses. Some guy kept walking back and fore behind her holding a dead rat at arms length. I have no idea why either
rather apt..
probably because a dead rat stinks..?"Im now thinking 'how long was he doing that for'? I didnt notice for a while when I thought 'Pfff another one of those jackets, must be a London thing'. Was just a full length, green ish grey nothing special coat. Then I noticed what he was holding and pressumed he was marching to the bin, but no. | |||
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"I was watching the ITV news just then on about the subject, usual thing news reporter boring the tits off me whilst stood on the grass outside the Houses. Some guy kept walking back and fore behind her holding a dead rat at arms length. I have no idea why either
rather apt..
probably because a dead rat stinks..?
Im now thinking 'how long was he doing that for'?
I didnt notice for a while when I thought 'Pfff another one of those jackets, must be a London thing'.
Was just a full length, green ish grey nothing special coat. Then I noticed what he was holding and pressumed he was marching to the bin, but no."if it is a new and emerging fashion, hope Lickety bans it from her do.. | |||
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"I was watching the ITV news just then on about the subject, usual thing news reporter boring the tits off me whilst stood on the grass outside the Houses. Some guy kept walking back and fore behind her holding a dead rat at arms length. I have no idea why either
rather apt..
probably because a dead rat stinks..?
Im now thinking 'how long was he doing that for'?
I didnt notice for a while when I thought 'Pfff another one of those jackets, must be a London thing'.
Was just a full length, green ish grey nothing special coat. Then I noticed what he was holding and pressumed he was marching to the bin, but no."He will probably now be arrested under antu-terrorism laws  | |||
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"I was watching the ITV news just then on about the subject, usual thing news reporter boring the tits off me whilst stood on the grass outside the Houses. Some guy kept walking back and fore behind her holding a dead rat at arms length. I have no idea why either
rather apt..
probably because a dead rat stinks..?
Im now thinking 'how long was he doing that for'?
I didnt notice for a while when I thought 'Pfff another one of those jackets, must be a London thing'.
Was just a full length, green ish grey nothing special coat. Then I noticed what he was holding and pressumed he was marching to the bin, but no.
He will probably now be arrested under antu-terrorism laws "lol, honest m'lud i was not cultivating bubonic plague as the man from MI6 states.. | |||
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"I was watching the ITV news just then on about the subject, usual thing news reporter boring the tits off me whilst stood on the grass outside the Houses. Some guy kept walking back and fore behind her holding a dead rat at arms length. I have no idea why either
rather apt..
probably because a dead rat stinks..?
Im now thinking 'how long was he doing that for'?
I didnt notice for a while when I thought 'Pfff another one of those jackets, must be a London thing'.
Was just a full length, green ish grey nothing special coat. Then I noticed what he was holding and pressumed he was marching to the bin, but no.
He will probably now be arrested under antu-terrorism laws
lol, honest m'lud i was not cultivating bubonic plague as the man from MI6 states.. "You were seen armed with a weapon of mass destruction, sentenced to life with no appeal! | |||
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"Why has it taken so long for this to be made public? Looking back at Robin Cooks resignation at the time (which as just been nominated as one of the best speeches given in Parliaments 750 year history) one has to admire his stance and his foresight, predicting as he did many of the issues we now face today. Had we not engaged in an illegal war do we think that we would have a safer environment today?" Blair, Bush and also Churchil were/are war criminals but it depends on who wins. The victor is always the hero and nothing we say or do on here will change that mate. | |||
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"When it is eventuslly published, it'll turn out to be the biggest whitewash since Hadrians Wall was last painted and we'll all wonder, "What was the point?"" | |||
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"Most of u are missing the point. The prime minister lied and took us into a war we didn't need or want to be involved in. And look how well its turned out." this | |||
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"It's an utter waste of time. I can tell you now it won't blame Blair or bush , it will point to mistakes made in "some" intelligences departments where there'll be " lessons to learn" and improvements to be made and recommendations galore that will never be taken up. If you think government is bad try local government, it's fucking laughable or it would be if it wasn't so dammed serious" | |||
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" With out being nasty if you sign up to the armed forces you know that you could die." True, but there is an expectation that it will be in defence of the realm or at least in a just war. There is also an expectation that the Government will take care of those left behind. " Or if the war is found to be illegal is the lady looking for a claim. " I would imagine she will want to make sense of why a loved one lost his life. The trouble with enquiries is that the actual truth will never come out, those accountable are rarely held accountable and people have little faith in them. If it is concluded that war was legal, pound to a pinch of shit that it will be labelled whitewash and there will be another enquiry, and another until we get the "right" answer. If it is declared illegal, politicians will maintain that it may have been illegal, but justified. Doubt there will be another enquiry to disprove it though. | |||
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"I was a member of the T.A during Gulf war 1, we were on exercise in Germany just after Iraq had invaded Kuwait and were told there was a high probability that we would relieve a Regiment in Germany so they could go over and then we would be in theatre, thankfully we weren't needed, however had the job been completed properly then we wouldn't have this now, Gulf war 2 was wrong and very possibly illegal and I for one blame All politicians BUT support the Armed forces who did their bidding " the remit was to remove Iraqi forces from Kuwait which they did, finishing the job whilst i can see the benefits at that time would have been technically illegal also.. | |||
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" The loss of life of any of our armed forces is very sad "One often hears this in any armed conflict. Bear in mind also that for every death there are a huge number ( said to be a ratio of 70:1 re Afghamistan) of serious, multilating life changing injuries. Spare a thought for those lives affected by this. Of course it won't make any difference but for my £0.02 worth Blair is a warmongering lying cunt. Liberating Kuwait was just, thereafter Iraq 2, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria et al sheer stupidity. | |||
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"Lets hope that scumbag blair gets done for war crimes " more chance of the Pope being done for corporate responsibility for kiddie fiddling.. it will never get to a trial.. ever.. | |||
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"Perhaps the delay and Cameron's comments that those criticised need to have the time to read it before it goes public etc indicates that it maybe more than just the usual farce. Let's hope so." Isn't it the standard "Maxwellisation" process to allow those criticised the opportunity to see what's been said and make an appropriate response? That should have happened already so i can't see that being the reason. It also gives a clue why the arrogant cunt Blair knows he's not gonna be blamed for his actions. Turkeys voting for christmas and all that. | |||
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"Perhaps the delay and Cameron's comments that those criticised need to have the time to read it before it goes public etc indicates that it maybe more than just the usual farce. Let's hope so. Isn't it the standard "Maxwellisation" process to allow those criticised the opportunity to see what's been said and make an appropriate response? That should have happened already so i can't see that being the reason. It also gives a clue why the arrogant cunt Blair knows he's not gonna be blamed for his actions. Turkeys voting for christmas and all that. " Yep, Blair going on the record saying he wishes the report was already published so he can demonstrate why he still believes he was right would suggest he has been cleared of any wrong doing. Still struggle to see how he believes it was the right thing to do given the mess we find ourselves in. | |||
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