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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Women may to be fighting on the front line alongside men as early as 2016 after an Army review into relaxing restrictions on female troops joining taking combat jobs, the Defence Secretary has said ..

I was reading about this and was thinking why not as woman been playing a very Big part for years and if they can do that job why not .?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As an ex-military type, I see no real reason for not doing this as long as women are treated the same way as the men. There could be an issue with men 'looking after' women in action, but that is a reflection on male society's attitude toward women at present, but that will change with time.

After all,many countries have been doing this for years.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Women have served at sea for a long while and there's never been any suggestion that they should be cosseted in any way should action begin.

My concern is that this is a measure to cover up the gaps in HM Armed Forces recruitment.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"As an ex-military type, I see no real reason for not doing this as long as women are treated the same way as the men. There could be an issue with men 'looking after' women in action, but that is a reflection on male society's attitude toward women at present, but that will change with time.

After all,many countries have been doing this for years."

Yes your right about some other countries been letting woman for years yes I was reading about it ... If a woman has what it takes I say why not .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No problem with it at all as long as they are one of the lads and don't expect any special treatment!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there was a progtamme on just before xmas with stacey from eastender in it, if they all looked like her in her uniform them i would love to join up

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Honestly dont know what my sister does, she is retired now but was in the patrols of the Maize Prisons during the unrest, shes had a couple of tours in Kosovo (I think), Kuwait (definitely) and actually phoned us from Sadams Palace in Baghdad saying there were fireworks going off (which was worrying).

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Well from what I am reading some are for it but not all ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why do women make great soldiers....

They bleed for seven days and don't die

Boom !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't see a problem there at all. Why shouldn't they? Same training, same preparation, same weapons.......same job done.

Just as in every job, there's no difference if we are trained the same

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why do women make great soldiers....

They bleed for seven days and don't die

Boom ! "

yes each month and still ok it don't kill us ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do women make great soldiers....

They bleed for seven days and don't die

Boom ! yes each month and still ok it don't kill us .. "

Ha don't kill you lot but for us men sheesh always keep a bar of dairy milk just incase

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon


"I don't see a problem there at all. Why shouldn't they? Same training, same preparation, same weapons.......same job done.

Just as in every job, there's no difference if we are trained the same"

Not same.

Physically they have lower standards to reach than guys, fewer sit-ups, press-ups, longer times for runs.

Can you see a female soldier going hand-to-hand with one of the Talibans finest?

Not something I'd want to witness as a section member.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I clicked on this thread I was half expecting to see comments arguing against allowing women on the front line, so was rather relieved to find this wasn't the case.

I absolutely agree that women should be given equal treatment in the armed forces, just as they should in any other profession.

In fact, I remember Lee Evans once making a joke that one way to bring a swift end to wars would be to have a long line of Pre-Menstral women facing the enemy, and with gritted teeth shouting 'Fuck Off'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't see a problem there at all. Why shouldn't they? Same training, same preparation, same weapons.......same job done.

Just as in every job, there's no difference if we are trained the same

Not same.

Physically they have lower standards to reach than guys, fewer sit-ups, press-ups, longer times for runs.

Can you see a female soldier going hand-to-hand with one of the Talibans finest?

Not something I'd want to witness as a section member. "

But my point was IF they are given the same training and have to meet the same standards, what's the difference?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *olden_Road_to_SamarkandMan
over a year ago

London

They'll always be some women that are physically up to it, so as long as standards aren't lowered as a result it's probably a good thing.

Perhaps I'm biased though - I've always have a soft spot for military girls - they're usually enormously great fun

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"Women may to be fighting on the front line alongside men as early as 2016 after an Army review into relaxing restrictions on female troops joining taking combat jobs, the Defence Secretary has said ..

I was reading about this and was thinking why not as woman been playing a very Big part for years and if they can do that job why not .? "

There is a long history of women fighting in war. Never understood why the West has been so squeamish about it, in comparatively recent history anyway.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"When I clicked on this thread I was half expecting to see comments arguing against allowing women on the front line, so was rather relieved to find this wasn't the case.

I absolutely agree that women should be given equal treatment in the armed forces, just as they should in any other profession.

In fact, I remember Lee Evans once making a joke that one way to bring a swift end to wars would be to have a long line of Pre-Menstral women facing the enemy, and with gritted teeth shouting 'Fuck Off'

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Tell the truth I was thinking some may get heated on this so far so good ..

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"I don't see a problem there at all. Why shouldn't they? Same training, same preparation, same weapons.......same job done.

Just as in every job, there's no difference if we are trained the same

Not same.

Physically they have lower standards to reach than guys, fewer sit-ups, press-ups, longer times for runs.

Can you see a female soldier going hand-to-hand with one of the Talibans finest?

Not something I'd want to witness as a section member. "

If she takes the Queens shilling same as the men, then she should do the same job.

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By *ummersun99Woman
over a year ago

North Yorkshire by the Sea

Kurdish forces have had women troops on the frontline for many years. Don't see why not, though I think the qualification criteria needs evening out for frontline posts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we need a rota of women soldiers ready , as they get their PMT we send them to the front , the enemy wouldn't last long , xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the main reasons is not how well the ladies can do the job, as a lot can do it just as good if not better, but how the guys react to the ladies , being injured etc the guys in the front line would react differently to ladies than men, and often put themselves at risk.

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By *ike4362ukMan
over a year ago

Cheshunt

We've had female medics patrolling with infantry for a long time. I think that women in infantry roles will need to pass exactly the same physical tests. At present the pass standards are different for men and women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does no one remember the two RAF females who claimed compensation because the marching pace was too long or the armed policewoman who claimed compensation because her gun was too big?

The training and lifestyle that infantry soldiers are subjected too is damaging and a lot of people get knee and back problems later in life. I may be wrong but I believe the female body is in general less able to cope with these demands and more likely to become injured both in the short and long term.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"Does no one remember the two RAF females who claimed compensation because the marching pace was too long or the armed policewoman who claimed compensation because her gun was too big?

The training and lifestyle that infantry soldiers are subjected too is damaging and a lot of people get knee and back problems later in life. I may be wrong but I believe the female body is in general less able to cope with these demands and more likely to become injured both in the short and long term."

Do you know the outcome?

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Women fighting in wars goes back to the Egyptians - about 17th century BC. So quite a long time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does no one remember the two RAF females who claimed compensation because the marching pace was too long or the armed policewoman who claimed compensation because her gun was too big?

The training and lifestyle that infantry soldiers are subjected too is damaging and a lot of people get knee and back problems later in life. I may be wrong but I believe the female body is in general less able to cope with these demands and more likely to become injured both in the short and long term.

Do you know the outcome?"

I believe it was 100 000 each for the RAF women and 35 000 each for the police women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm all for strong women and girl power and equality and I love and respect my fellow women but I don't think they should be on the front line.

Medics usually female, have exactly the same training as all the guys she is with meaning that if anything were to happen the medic would do exactly the same job as the soldiers she was with. Say 14 guys go out and 1 medic for an op, 3 of those guys have to look after the protect the medic, it just slows things down in my opinion. Also they would be targeted more for being female especially if they were in places like Iraq where they can't stand the thought of make female equality. Of captured there's be more chance of her being raped and stuff before just being killed like a man would be, I'm sorry if I was in that situation I'd rather they chopped my head off or shot me than rape me first and then kill me.

The only thing I would get pleasure from is that if they would let women try p company and be allowed to become a paratrooper. There are no women paratroopers they aren't even allowed to do p company. I don't think that's ability based I think it's more to do with the fact that paras call themselves "the elite" and they think if a woman could do it it would take the credibility away.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm all for strong women and girl power and equality and I love and respect my fellow women but I don't think they should be on the front line.

Medics usually female, have exactly the same training as all the guys she is with meaning that if anything were to happen the medic would do exactly the same job as the soldiers she was with. Say 14 guys go out and 1 medic for an op, 3 of those guys have to look after the protect the medic, it just slows things down in my opinion. Also they would be targeted more for being female especially if they were in places like Iraq where they can't stand the thought of make female equality. Of captured there's be more chance of her being raped and stuff before just being killed like a man would be, I'm sorry if I was in that situation I'd rather they chopped my head off or shot me than rape me first and then kill me.

The only thing I would get pleasure from is that if they would let women try p company and be allowed to become a paratrooper. There are no women paratroopers they aren't even allowed to do p company. I don't think that's ability based I think it's more to do with the fact that paras call themselves "the elite" and they think if a woman could do it it would take the credibility away. "

There are women who have passed P Coy (as men).

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Women fighting in wars for millenia have not been a problem before. The old argument that it would impact men's behaviour is facetious at best. Any man worried about looking after the precious little flower needs re - training and re - educating. Just because some men MAY have a problem with it doesn't mean we should exclude all women.

As for the rape argument. Rape has been used as a weapon of war against civilians again for millenia. Female fighters are probably at less risk than them. They are more likely to be raped by soldiers in their own forces. This needs tackling. Not used as yet another excuse to exclude women.

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Women on the front line? .

PMT . . And a gun?

Now that's what I call intimidating

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