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Wheeler Dealers or Top Gear???

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I don't normally watch television much but this is one programme I look forwards too. Mike Brewer and Mr Ed China. I much prefer this to Top Gear I know there two different types of programmes but who agrees?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry Top Gear all the way for us

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

Top gear is just that bit better for me, but i enjoy watching wheeler dealers, i like to see old cars being restored.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love Wheeler Dealers, but I also still enjoy Top Gear.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

If I have to watch that numbnutts on WD putting wheelnuts on with an airgun again I'll probably throw something through the telly.

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By *mgdaveMan
over a year ago

paisley

Addicted to wheeler deelers but like top gear don't know what I would do without discovery and history channels got my wife into gold rush as well

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock


"Addicted to wheeler deelers but like top gear don't know what I would do without discovery and history channels got my wife into gold rush as well "

Used to be addicted to deadliest catch when i had sky tv. I've now switched over to BT vision and don't get Discovery or history channels anymore.

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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago

here and there, thereabouts

Love wheeler dealers but top gear is top for me

Bugs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.

If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Yep love to see old cars from childhood being restored. I was watching one the other day when they were restoring a Audi Quattro GT wow what a car, always wanted one when I was younger

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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago

here and there, thereabouts


"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.

If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal."

They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work

Bugs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.

If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.

They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work

Bugs"

If there is no money in it and you aren't gonna keep the car, why do it ?

Seems a hell of a lot of effort for zero return, unless of course you enjoy doing cars up for the fun if it.

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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago

here and there, thereabouts


"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.

If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.

They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work

Bugs

If there is no money in it and you aren't gonna keep the car, why do it ?

Seems a hell of a lot of effort for zero return, unless of course you enjoy doing cars up for the fun if it.

"

Some cars you will make a few pounds, others will make a lot. My mates so this and if I was still at home, I'd be doing it. The profit being the wage

Bugs

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I like Wheeler Dealers. I like most things to do with engineering.

I even like that vet character who restores bikes and cars and builds planes and helicopters.

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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago

here and there, thereabouts


"I like Wheeler Dealers. I like most things to do with engineering.

I even like that vet character who restores bikes and cars and builds planes and helicopters."

Mark Evans. Loved the stuff he did.

Bugs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.

If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.

They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work

Bugs

If there is no money in it and you aren't gonna keep the car, why do it ?

Seems a hell of a lot of effort for zero return, unless of course you enjoy doing cars up for the fun if it.

Some cars you will make a few pounds, others will make a lot. My mates so this and if I was still at home, I'd be doing it. The profit being the wage

Bugs"

But I thought the little guy employed the tall one ?

Or do they share the proceeds ?

If a mechanic can earn £30 to £40k a year for example, you'd have to turn a hell of a lot of motors over to make an equal amount doing this instead.

I do like the programme btw

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like both but imo top gear is better, some of the US shows are great like Fast n Loud on Disc Turbo

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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago

here and there, thereabouts


"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.

If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.

They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work

Bugs

If there is no money in it and you aren't gonna keep the car, why do it ?

Seems a hell of a lot of effort for zero return, unless of course you enjoy doing cars up for the fun if it.

Some cars you will make a few pounds, others will make a lot. My mates so this and if I was still at home, I'd be doing it. The profit being the wage

Bugs

But I thought the little guy employed the tall one ?

Or do they share the proceeds ?

If a mechanic can earn £30 to £40k a year for example, you'd have to turn a hell of a lot of motors over to make an equal amount doing this instead.

I do like the programme btw "

They share the profit. This is about buying cheap and selling high. Mechanics are different in that sense of the word s they charge an hourly rate for doing a job, service for example. Rather than buy one car and do 10 thinks to it, a mechanic will do 5 things to 5 different cars but never sell them. The wheeler dealer is more like the home mechanics and all about buying, fixing and selling the cars.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ed China is the man. I'd love his knowledge on cars

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.

If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.

They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work

Bugs

If there is no money in it and you aren't gonna keep the car, why do it ?

Seems a hell of a lot of effort for zero return, unless of course you enjoy doing cars up for the fun if it.

Some cars you will make a few pounds, others will make a lot. My mates so this and if I was still at home, I'd be doing it. The profit being the wage

Bugs

But I thought the little guy employed the tall one ?

Or do they share the proceeds ?

If a mechanic can earn £30 to £40k a year for example, you'd have to turn a hell of a lot of motors over to make an equal amount doing this instead.

I do like the programme btw

They share the profit. This is about buying cheap and selling high. Mechanics are different in that sense of the word s they charge an hourly rate for doing a job, service for example. Rather than buy one car and do 10 thinks to it, a mechanic will do 5 things to 5 different cars but never sell them. The wheeler dealer is more like the home mechanics and all about buying, fixing and selling the cars. "

Are the profits that high that they can sustain 2 mens wages though.

So if 2 guys are in it, could they easily net 60 to 80k a year (between them) after their outgoings ?

At £2,000 a car, that's 40 cars a year or 1 about every 10 days.

Is that achievable ?

See what you've started now ?

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By *riskygazMan
over a year ago

birmingham

mmm I like both

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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago

here and there, thereabouts


"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.

If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.

They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work

Bugs

If there is no money in it and you aren't gonna keep the car, why do it ?

Seems a hell of a lot of effort for zero return, unless of course you enjoy doing cars up for the fun if it.

Some cars you will make a few pounds, others will make a lot. My mates so this and if I was still at home, I'd be doing it. The profit being the wage

Bugs

But I thought the little guy employed the tall one ?

Or do they share the proceeds ?

If a mechanic can earn £30 to £40k a year for example, you'd have to turn a hell of a lot of motors over to make an equal amount doing this instead.

I do like the programme btw

They share the profit. This is about buying cheap and selling high. Mechanics are different in that sense of the word s they charge an hourly rate for doing a job, service for example. Rather than buy one car and do 10 thinks to it, a mechanic will do 5 things to 5 different cars but never sell them. The wheeler dealer is more like the home mechanics and all about buying, fixing and selling the cars.

Are the profits that high that they can sustain 2 mens wages though.

So if 2 guys are in it, could they easily net 60 to 80k a year (between them) after their outgoings ?

At £2,000 a car, that's 40 cars a year or 1 about every 10 days.

Is that achievable ?

See what you've started now ? "

Getting the cars at the right price would be difficult to maintain it. You're more likely to do half a dozen cars making 5k profit, or run a high turnover low profit model as a second job. I'd love to do it and if I was back home in Manc I would be with my mates

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By *oddamnCouple
over a year ago

leicestershire

Top Gear is fifty per cent silly, and I do think they need to add a female presenter to tone down the laddiness. I still watch it though.

I also enjoy car SOS on More4. Try it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't normally watch television much but this is one programme I look forwards too. Mike Brewer and Mr Ed China. I much prefer this to Top Gear I know there two different types of programmes but who agrees?"

Love my engineering so I prefare wheeler dealers just not keen on mr brewer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Getting the cars at the right price would be difficult to maintain it. You're more likely to do half a dozen cars making 5k profit, or run a high turnover low profit model as a second job. I'd love to do it and if I was back home in Manc I would be with my mates"

Thank you for satisfying my curiosity

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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago

here and there, thereabouts


"Top Gear is fifty per cent silly, and I do think they need to add a female presenter to tone down the laddiness. I still watch it though.

I also enjoy car SOS on More4. Try it"

Car SOS is ace especially when Fuzz is either converted as a fan of what they're doing our just gets one up on Tim. Loved the RS episodes.

I don't think TG needs a lass though, fifth gear has VBH (yes please ) but don't think TG needs a female influence, if they got it wrong, it would spoil the format I think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Love my engineering so I prefare wheeler dealers just not keen on mr brewer "

I think the mans a idiot tbh, Ed does all the work

Anyone watch Overhaulin?

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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago

here and there, thereabouts


"Love my engineering so I prefare wheeler dealers just not keen on mr brewer

I think the mans a idiot tbh, Ed does all the work

Anyone watch Overhaulin?"

Not in a while as its all been repeated everytime I've put it on but love all the subtle stuff that chip does.

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By *oddamnCouple
over a year ago

leicestershire

Agree 100% on the RS cosworth car SOS.

However top gear is stagnant and needs something. VBH is the obvious choice, but Susie Wolff might work too. Or have Victoria Coren bossing them about. She could boss me around anytime

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not in a while as its all been repeated everytime I've put it on but love all the subtle stuff that chip does."

Agreed, They do keep repeating season 1 but season 2 has not long started (or I have only just noticed)

Hex

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By *oddamnCouple
over a year ago

leicestershire

Plus I'll watch anything with Guy Martin. His engineering enthusiasm is fantastic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.

If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal."
the whole point of the programme is that Edd doesn't have labour costs. He represents a DIY mechanic doing the jobs himself. On lots of the jobs he tells you how much money you'd pay for a pro to do it.

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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago

here and there, thereabouts


"Agree 100% on the RS cosworth car SOS.

However top gear is stagnant and needs something. VBH is the obvious choice, but Susie Wolff might work too. Or have Victoria Coren bossing them about. She could boss me around anytime "

Sabine Schmidt seems to do well .... Loved the sierra and the RS1600

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.

If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.

They don't include labour as their profit is the labour costs, just like if you had done the work

Bugs

If there is no money in it and you aren't gonna keep the car, why do it ?

Seems a hell of a lot of effort for zero return, unless of course you enjoy doing cars up for the fun if it.

Some cars you will make a few pounds, others will make a lot. My mates so this and if I was still at home, I'd be doing it. The profit being the wage

Bugs

But I thought the little guy employed the tall one ?

Or do they share the proceeds ?

If a mechanic can earn £30 to £40k a year for example, you'd have to turn a hell of a lot of motors over to make an equal amount doing this instead.

I do like the programme btw

They share the profit. This is about buying cheap and selling high. Mechanics are different in that sense of the word s they charge an hourly rate for doing a job, service for example. Rather than buy one car and do 10 thinks to it, a mechanic will do 5 things to 5 different cars but never sell them. The wheeler dealer is more like the home mechanics and all about buying, fixing and selling the cars.

Are the profits that high that they can sustain 2 mens wages though.

So if 2 guys are in it, could they easily net 60 to 80k a year (between them) after their outgoings ?

At £2,000 a car, that's 40 cars a year or 1 about every 10 days.

Is that achievable ?

See what you've started now ? "

The actual profit is selling the tv show to the discovery channel.

The theme of the show, i.e flipping cars is just another production cost.

At least the cars usually pay for themselves, so it is actually a pretty cheap show to make, except for the ones where he buys cars from America!

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts

prefer car SOS to wheeler dealers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do enjoy Top Gear, but it is becoming staid. The Top Gear special to Patagonia was very dull. In a lot of ways, I would like it to go back to a proper car show rather than a comedy show.

I do like Wheeler Dealers, they have brought some very nice cars back to life.

Fast'n'Loud is my fav car related show at the moment.

Car SOS is a great show, I really like Fuzz and he really seems to have an eye for detail.

Counting Cars has some great hot rods.

Chip Foose does some beautiful cars on OverHaulin.

Fifth Gear is OK, but I cant stand VBH.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.

If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like both programs, but prefer tg. Being in the motor trade I find wheeler dealers is far to set up. Never known so many old cars that come apart so easily

And someone needs to tell Ed that tee shirts go under jumpers, not on top !

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By *ongueNcheek33Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

Both of those shows are getting old now and much prefer the fast and loud series

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both of those shows are getting old now and much prefer the fast and loud series"

Me too or Fired up Garage. Them guys crease me up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like both shows for different reasons. Fast n Loud is also a firm favourite too....

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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago

here and there, thereabouts

Am loving fast n loud. Still got KITT part 2 to watch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It annoys me on WD that they don't account for labour costs.

If they were included, they'd lose money on virtually every deal.

"

If you read their web page it says that Ed plays the part of a home mechanic and carries out the kinds of jobs that many of us could do at home in our garages. They send the specialist jobs out to other companies and include those costs at the end.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Saw top gear where they travelled through India, a rolls royce, a mini, And a jaguar xj6 with a austin allegro Has a follow up car, at the end they Had Their 3 cars mounted on plinths over looking the mountain ranges between China and India thinking about it afterwards those cars would soon start Turning to rusting hulks surely was a Set up for the finale.. never know what to believe now days on Tv..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Top Gear presenters just prat about , some tech. Info on cars is ok ish.. But think their top gear specials are just them arsing about. Wheeler dealers is a lot more sensible and dont talk nonsensical shite..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wheeler Dealers for me. Love a bit of dirty spannering me. Though none as good as Fast n Loud.

B

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Top Gear presenters just prat about , some tech. Info on cars is ok ish.. But think their top gear specials are just them arsing about.

Wheeler dealers is a lot more sensible and dont talk nonsensical shite.. "

BREWER DOES. Would never buy a car a bloke who makes himself look as thick as he does. And all that crap about the world second hand car market dealing in dollars. What a load of bollox

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over a year ago


"Top Gear presenters just prat about , some tech. Info on cars is ok ish.. But think their top gear specials are just them arsing about.

Wheeler dealers is a lot more sensible and dont talk nonsensical shite.. I saw my first programme on Wheeler dealers on guest tv? I think, It was on this last week one gets a car for a Good deal and thee other guy converts it I,m sure it was a porsche They converted, took all the carpets out, new shock absorbers 4 of them at £500 each (they have to work to a budget) and also putting in a roll

cage around the drivers seat after Quite a bit of renervation Along with Some welding Involved they did go over Their budget in the end but they got All their costs back after the sale of The car to be used specifically on a Raceing track.. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ed China is the man. I'd love his knowledge on cars "

I would have thought he had a lot of experts on hand in case he got stuck with anything.

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By *ipsTeaserCouple
over a year ago

here and there, thereabouts


"Ed China is the man. I'd love his knowledge on cars

I would have thought he had a lot of experts on hand in case he got stuck with anything. "

Google as well me thinks. No doubt he knows a lot but when Mike brings his shed back he googles for known issues and common faults/fixes. If not him the researchers do

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ed China is the man. I'd love his knowledge on cars

I would have thought he had a lot of experts on hand in case he got stuck with anything.

Google as well me thinks. No doubt he knows a lot but when Mike brings his shed back he googles for known issues and common faults/fixes. If not him the researchers do"

Lol and who knows while Eds googling for car issues/parts Mr brewer is proberly on Fabswingers tbh I did come across a profile that said "why have a Fiesta when you can have a Rolls" and stuff like "been around a bit but plenty of miles left on the clock" the kind of things Mike says so now we know what he gets up to with that laptop his always on

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

Neither, Graveyard Carz is the way to go or Fast n Loud.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Love Wheeler Dealers, but I also still enjoy Top Gear."

Agree.

'Fast and Loud' is also a brilliant programme.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cringe watching WD Ed comes out see with so much crap, watch the one when they buy a Suzuki jeep. Change the engine, all the suspension, axels, weld in a Roll cage to the chassis then find out when they take it for an MOT the chassis is rotten, wtf expert my ass

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

I just googled edd china. He owns a company that manufactures novelty vehicles - did you know that he built the double decker cars for top gear?

He also holds the land speed record for the fastest sofa...92 mph lol

He has a degree in engineering so I would say he does know his stuff.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Our Ed will be creating a magic carpet next! Could actually see Mike appearing out of a genie lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wheeler dealers for me. Top gear is too set up now. There running out of ideas and it gets worse and worse each series.

Although saying that im noticing it with wheeler dealers now too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ed China is the man. I'd love his knowledge on cars "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ed China is the man. I'd love his knowledge on cars

I would have thought he had a lot of experts on hand in case he got stuck with anything.

Google as well me thinks. No doubt he knows a lot but when Mike brings his shed back he googles for known issues and common faults/fixes. If not him the researchers do"

Edd is a fairly familiar face on various car forums, often getting advice on fixes for common faults on the cars he and Mike are working on.

It's also worth mentioning that Mike Brewer is also an excellent mechanic, something that's not mentioned on the show at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Top Gear for me

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