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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Come across many a profile where people state they don't want people who take drugs .... Which is a fair point to make of course.

Yet it says they drink alcohol..

Is alcohol not a DRUG??

Just a question. Don't bit my head off?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Drugs are worse than alcohol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be fair alcohol is slightly different from class a drugs. A lot of couples will probably have a drink or two before meets or venturing to a club just to loosen up a little. I do think you are splitting hairs a bit here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

id not be interested in a person who took drugs either.. just a preference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They're probably alright with their meets taking paracetamol too. Fucking hypocrites.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To be fair alcohol is slightly different from class a drugs. A lot of couples will probably have a drink or two before meets or venturing to a club just to loosen up a little. I do think you are splitting hairs a bit here."

I didn't mention class a drugs.. I'm talking drugs full stop.

ALCOHOL IS A DRUG... Just sold legally over counter like medicine!

Not taking digs.. Just trying to figure how people pick and choose what they class a drug.

Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you are talking class A then we wouldn't want to meet them, if your talking prescription drugs then that's totally acceptable

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Drugs are worse than alcohol"

Errrrmmm

ALCOHOL is a DRUG

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i feel that if you come across 'many a profile' that state 'no drugs' they mean people who use them for recreational purposes.. not for medicinal reasons

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If you are talking class A then we wouldn't want to meet them, if your talking prescription drugs then that's totally acceptable"

Most are class A . That's why we have to get them from a druggist... Oops I meant a CHEMIST!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drugs are worse than alcohol"

Depends which drugs.

Go into a hospital a&e any given weekend.....mostly alcohol related....one stoner who just went in to use the vending machine.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"i feel that if you come across 'many a profile' that state 'no drugs' they mean people who use them for recreational purposes.. not for medicinal reasons "

Would you say alcohol is medicinal??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you are talking class A then we wouldn't want to meet them, if your talking prescription drugs then that's totally acceptable

Most are class A . That's why we have to get them from a druggist... Oops I meant a CHEMIST! "

No they're not. Hardly any prescription drugs are class a. Why do you think that?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can normally put the word illegal in front of the drugs preference, just as it's reasonable to assume safe sex seldom requires a hard hat and safety boots (though there are of course exceptions)

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Drugs are worse than alcohol

Depends which drugs.

Go into a hospital a&e any given weekend.....mostly alcohol related....one stoner who just went in to use the vending machine.

"

My point exactly!!!

Well said!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If you are talking class A then we wouldn't want to meet them, if your talking prescription drugs then that's totally acceptable

Most are class A . That's why we have to get them from a druggist... Oops I meant a CHEMIST!

No they're not. Hardly any prescription drugs are class a. Why do you think that?!"

Try purchasing some medicines you previously had from docs!!!

You will see you are unable I without prescription of course.

Not talkin paracetamol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

If alcohol was to be made illegal. Would people stop drinking??

Just a thought!

I'm not picking sides btw.

Just trying to make sense of it all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you are talking class A then we wouldn't want to meet them, if your talking prescription drugs then that's totally acceptable

Most are class A . That's why we have to get them from a druggist... Oops I meant a CHEMIST!

No they're not. Hardly any prescription drugs are class a. Why do you think that?!

Try purchasing some medicines you previously had from docs!!!

You will see you are unable I without prescription of course.

Not talkin paracetamol "

Yeah but POM isn't Class A.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i feel that if you come across 'many a profile' that state 'no drugs' they mean people who use them for recreational purposes.. not for medicinal reasons

Would you say alcohol is medicinal?? "

no i wouldnt, i would say alcohol is different to a conventional drug though.

i do understand it changes the way the mind reacts and see's things though but when i see 'no drugs' i once again presume its 'no addicts' or regular users

id be just as put off by meeting a person who is dependant on alcohol, but as it stands alcohol isnt illegal

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By *oxerjoshleeMan
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Drugs are worse than alcohol"

I disagree. I think alcohol is equally as strong if not stronger than most recreational drugs.

I used to own a nightclub and all the arguments, fights and people being sent off to hospital were always down to people drinking too much. I think drink is equally addictive too. We just accept drinking as the norm as it is widely accepted.

Try not having an alcoholic drink for 1 month...... a lot of people can't manage that, maybe that's because they're addicted.

I haven't drank in 4 years because it makes me act like a grade A ass hole. That said I think drink can be enjoyed responsibly by most.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you're a bit confused here. To clarify, there are....

Drugs you can obtain on a prescription (referred to as Prescription Only Medicines (POMs))

Drugs you can buy at a chemist without prescription, under the supervision of a pharmacist (P)

And drugs on general sale (GSL) which can be sold in shops without the supervision of a pharmacist.

These are all controlled under the Medicines Act 1968.

None of them are to be confused with other drugs which are controlled under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971.

The classification on all of these is very different, so to the guy saying that prescription drugs are Class A, you're absolutely miles off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you are talking class A then we wouldn't want to meet them, if your talking prescription drugs then that's totally acceptable

Most are class A . That's why we have to get them from a druggist... Oops I meant a CHEMIST!

No they're not. Hardly any prescription drugs are class a. Why do you think that?!

Try purchasing some medicines you previously had from docs!!!

You will see you are unable I without prescription of course.

Not talkin paracetamol

Yeah but POM isn't Class A. "

which is what I said, prescription drugs are acceptable, if they are prescribed by a doctor and dispensed by a pharmacist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you are talking class A then we wouldn't want to meet them, if your talking prescription drugs then that's totally acceptable

Most are class A . That's why we have to get them from a druggist... Oops I meant a CHEMIST!

No they're not. Hardly any prescription drugs are class a. Why do you think that?!

Try purchasing some medicines you previously had from docs!!!

You will see you are unable I without prescription of course.

Not talkin paracetamol "

Most prescription drugs, without a prescription are class c. There are exceptions.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Drugs are worse than alcohol

I disagree. I think alcohol is equally as strong if not stronger than most recreational drugs.

I used to own a nightclub and all the arguments, fights and people being sent off to hospital were always down to people drinking too much. I think drink is equally addictive too. We just accept drinking as the norm as it is widely accepted.

Try not having an alcoholic drink for 1 month...... a lot of people can't manage that, maybe that's because they're addicted.

I haven't drank in 4 years because it makes me act like a grade A ass hole. That said I think drink can be enjoyed responsibly by most. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm confused as to why some people are bothered by other people's preferences!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm confused as to why some people are bothered by other people's preferences!!"

to be fair the forum is slow this morning and this is the only post with something substantial to debate on lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drugs are worse than alcohol"

No alcohol is legal.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Ok leave the prescription drugs aside. Maybe I need to research a bit more into it

Still think alcohol is a drug.. And worse than some other so called illegal drugs..

Btw.. I do not condone class A drugs by any means

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm confused as to why some people are bothered by other people's preferences!!"

Because people on drugs can be pretty messy. Nobody looks good on drugs, they just thin they do. I mean have you ever hung out with someone on E for example? Jaw all over the place, eyes rolling in their head? Sexy.

Coke heads rambling on about a load of rubbish, sniffing all the time, drugs are not pretty and drug-bores are even less interesting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drugs are worse than alcohol

No alcohol is legal. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm confused as to why some people are bothered by other people's preferences!!

to be fair the forum is slow this morning and this is the only post with something substantial to debate on lol "

It's always good to use our minds... We all think differently. Just a way to hear people opinions that's all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm confused as to why some people are bothered by other people's preferences!!

Because people on drugs can be pretty messy. Nobody looks good on drugs, they just thin they do. I mean have you ever hung out with someone on E for example? Jaw all over the place, eyes rolling in their head? Sexy.

Coke heads rambling on about a load of rubbish, sniffing all the time, drugs are not pretty and drug-bores are even less interesting."

Exactly, the people/person the op is referring to doesn't want to meet people on drugs if I've read it right so why its confusing I don't know, its their preference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drugs are worse than alcohol

No alcohol is legal. "

Legality vs the term 'worse' is a bit meaningless. Drugs are 'bad' and so is alcohol when abused.

The terminology used in this thread is very vague and misleading. I too have used vague terms in this very post!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm confused as to why some people are bothered by other people's preferences!!

Because people on drugs can be pretty messy. Nobody looks good on drugs, they just thin they do. I mean have you ever hung out with someone on E for example? Jaw all over the place, eyes rolling in their head? Sexy.

Coke heads rambling on about a load of rubbish, sniffing all the time, drugs are not pretty and drug-bores are even less interesting.

Exactly, the people/person the op is referring to doesn't want to meet people on drugs if I've read it right so why its confusing I don't know, its their preference. "

He accepted that fact and didnt dispute it as their preference, he just added another point that alcohol is also a drug and it can be abused to a state that perhaps creates side effects that are worse than those who use drugs

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I never mentioned about legal drugs. Just trying to work out where people draw the line on the word DRUG!

Technically alcohol is a drug.

Not talking about legal matters. But I think I'll stop there.

Think I got plenty of research to do.

This was just like marker research.as they say in APPRENTICE or business circles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drugs are worse than alcohol

I disagree. I think alcohol is equally as strong if not stronger than most recreational drugs.

I used to own a nightclub and all the arguments, fights and people being sent off to hospital were always down to people drinking too much. I think drink is equally addictive too. We just accept drinking as the norm as it is widely accepted.

Try not having an alcoholic drink for 1 month...... a lot of people can't manage that, maybe that's because they're addicted.

I haven't drank in 4 years because it makes me act like a grade A ass hole. That said I think drink can be enjoyed responsibly by most. "

Blimey so Alcohol Is as strong or stronger than recreational Drugs, All fights in your Club were due to Drink, A lot can't manage without for a Month yet it can be enjoyed sensibly by most

An interesting thought process

Scratch n Sniff Gimp

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He accepted that fact and didnt dispute it as their preference, he just added another point that alcohol is also a drug and it can be abused to a state that perhaps creates side effects that are worse than those who use drugs "

It's a moot point - I mean define 'worse' in this context? Alcoholics, heroin addicts, -heads, stoners, pill-heads - there's a big difference in the way these drugs effect people, the level of use/abuse etc so this is a very varied discussion with no complete answer.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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Thanks just opinions.

We don't have to get personal all call out names.

Thought we was grown ups.

Don't wanna turn into TROLLS now do we. Lol

Just opinions people. It's a discussion. We ain't about to change anything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm confused as to why some people are bothered by other people's preferences!!

Because people on drugs can be pretty messy. Nobody looks good on drugs, they just thin they do. I mean have you ever hung out with someone on E for example? Jaw all over the place, eyes rolling in their head? Sexy.

Coke heads rambling on about a load of rubbish, sniffing all the time, drugs are not pretty and drug-bores are even less interesting.

Exactly, the people/person the op is referring to doesn't want to meet people on drugs if I've read it right so why its confusing I don't know, its their preference.

He accepted that fact and didnt dispute it as their preference, he just added another point that alcohol is also a drug and it can be abused to a state that perhaps creates side effects that are worse than those who use drugs "

I guess that depends how much a person drinks.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"He accepted that fact and didnt dispute it as their preference, he just added another point that alcohol is also a drug and it can be abused to a state that perhaps creates side effects that are worse than those who use drugs

It's a moot point - I mean define 'worse' in this context? Alcoholics, heroin addicts, -heads, stoners, pill-heads - there's a big difference in the way these drugs effect people, the level of use/abuse etc so this is a very varied discussion with no complete answer."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just out of curiosity, is it possible to take a little bit of drugs to calm the nerves before a meet? Like meeting for a social and having a glass of wine with a meal?

I personally do not and will not do drugs as I am not interested in them and am regularly tested for drugs use.

I also never drink on a meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"just out of curiosity, is it possible to take a little bit of drugs to calm the nerves before a meet? Like meeting for a social and having a glass of wine with a meal?

I personally do not and will not do drugs as I am not interested in them and am regularly tested for drugs use.

I also never drink on a meet."

Of course it is - when you buy , smack, , whatever, drug dealers tend not to talk to you about dosage like your GP does!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He accepted that fact and didnt dispute it as their preference, he just added another point that alcohol is also a drug and it can be abused to a state that perhaps creates side effects that are worse than those who use drugs

It's a moot point - I mean define 'worse' in this context? Alcoholics, heroin addicts, -heads, stoners, pill-heads - there's a big difference in the way these drugs effect people, the level of use/abuse etc so this is a very varied discussion with no complete answer."

I dont know a lot about drugs, i just know they are illegal and i want them to play no part in my life and want no association with those who use them to get high.. if your life is shit and u need a chemical buzz from something your not the kinda person id want to know.

thats my stance on them. I dont have friends who go get bladdered or rely on alcohol regularly either to 'take the edge of a stressful day'..

signed *very boring person of Devon*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my opinion it's fairly obvious they're referring to illegal classified drugs and not prescription drugs.

To assume otherwise is a little pedantic.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"just out of curiosity, is it possible to take a little bit of drugs to calm the nerves before a meet? Like meeting for a social and having a glass of wine with a meal?

I personally do not and will not do drugs as I am not interested in them and am regularly tested for drugs use.

I also never drink on a meet.

Of course it is - when you buy , smack, , whatever, drug dealers tend not to talk to you about dosage like your GP does!!"

what about go'a that give the wrong medicine.

Just a bit if humour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" In my opinion it's fairly obvious they're referring to illegal classified drugs and not prescription drugs.

To assume otherwise is a little pedantic. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"He accepted that fact and didnt dispute it as their preference, he just added another point that alcohol is also a drug and it can be abused to a state that perhaps creates side effects that are worse than those who use drugs

It's a moot point - I mean define 'worse' in this context? Alcoholics, heroin addicts, -heads, stoners, pill-heads - there's a big difference in the way these drugs effect people, the level of use/abuse etc so this is a very varied discussion with no complete answer.

I dont know a lot about drugs, i just know they are illegal and i want them to play no part in my life and want no association with those who use them to get high.. if your life is shit and u need a chemical buzz from something your not the kinda person id want to know.

thats my stance on them. I dont have friends who go get bladdered or rely on alcohol regularly either to 'take the edge of a stressful day'..

signed *very boring person of Devon* "

Your not that boring.. You on here ffs... Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I dont know a lot about drugs, i just know they are illegal and i want them to play no part in my life and want no association with those who use them to get high.. if your life is shit and u need a chemical buzz from something your not the kinda person id want to know.

thats my stance on them. I dont have friends who go get bladdered or rely on alcohol regularly either to 'take the edge of a stressful day'..

signed *very boring person of Devon* "

An awful lot of people use illegal drugs in exactly the same way that people use alcohol - to say that their lives are somehow 'shit' because they like to smoke , do , pills etc is a little narrow minded (no offence). Plenty of people use drugs to enjoy a night in/out in exactly the same way that people drink.

I do neither by the way, but nowadays drug use is a lot more mainstream, better understood, and if it was made legal, would be better controlled. Anyway, that's a whole new debate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To me.....and I could be way off....alcohol is legal because its so deeply intrenched in the psyche of the publicamd has been around so long, plus the revenue made off the tax off it.

Things like marijuana won't be legalised because as sure as eggs is eggs the government would be shit scared its a vote looser and the next government would get in on the promise of a tougher drugs policy.....so it stays illigal.

That's a ridiculously simplistic view but this page isn't big enough to fit every argument for and against every drug on it so I'll leave it at that.

Personally I am in favour of a relaxation on drug policies on general. Yes I have known the dark side of drugs, my brother was murdered over a little heroin (he was an addict himself) and I believe that if his killer (caught and in jail may I add) was getting his drugs from a legal source my brother may have been here today.

The government need to take the problem in hand....not try and stamp it out....it's not working...that's plain to see.

The drachonian view on drugs in this country needs a huge overhaul but no one government has the balls to do it so they keep doing what they're doing and pumping the 'drugs are bad' message out and the sheep keep eating it up.

That's my opinion anyhow.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


" In my opinion it's fairly obvious they're referring to illegal classified drugs and not prescription drugs.

To assume otherwise is a little pedantic. "

Alcohol is not a prescription drug!

Never mind .. Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I dont know a lot about drugs, i just know they are illegal and i want them to play no part in my life and want no association with those who use them to get high.. if your life is shit and u need a chemical buzz from something your not the kinda person id want to know.

thats my stance on them. I dont have friends who go get bladdered or rely on alcohol regularly either to 'take the edge of a stressful day'..

signed *very boring person of Devon*

An awful lot of people use illegal drugs in exactly the same way that people use alcohol - to say that their lives are somehow 'shit' because they like to smoke , do , pills etc is a little narrow minded (no offence). Plenty of people use drugs to enjoy a night in/out in exactly the same way that people drink.

I do neither by the way, but nowadays drug use is a lot more mainstream, better understood, and if it was made legal, would be better controlled. Anyway, that's a whole new debate."

if i'm all those things then fair enough, but they are my views and i stand by them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To me.....and I could be way off....alcohol is legal because its so deeply intrenched in the psyche of the publicamd has been around so long, plus the revenue made off the tax off it.

Things like marijuana won't be legalised because as sure as eggs is eggs the government would be shit scared its a vote looser and the next government would get in on the promise of a tougher drugs policy.....so it stays illigal.

That's a ridiculously simplistic view but this page isn't big enough to fit every argument for and against every drug on it so I'll leave it at that.

Personally I am in favour of a relaxation on drug policies on general. Yes I have known the dark side of drugs, my brother was murdered over a little heroin (he was an addict himself) and I believe that if his killer (caught and in jail may I add) was getting his drugs from a legal source my brother may have been here today.

The government need to take the problem in hand....not try and stamp it out....it's not working...that's plain to see.

The drachonian view on drugs in this country needs a huge overhaul but no one government has the balls to do it so they keep doing what they're doing and pumping the 'drugs are bad' message out and the sheep keep eating it up.

That's my opinion anyhow. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me.....and I could be way off....alcohol is legal because its so deeply intrenched in the psyche of the publicamd has been around so long, plus the revenue made off the tax off it.

Things like marijuana won't be legalised because as sure as eggs is eggs the government would be shit scared its a vote looser and the next government would get in on the promise of a tougher drugs policy.....so it stays illigal.

That's a ridiculously simplistic view but this page isn't big enough to fit every argument for and against every drug on it so I'll leave it at that.

Personally I am in favour of a relaxation on drug policies on general. Yes I have known the dark side of drugs, my brother was murdered over a little heroin (he was an addict himself) and I believe that if his killer (caught and in jail may I add) was getting his drugs from a legal source my brother may have been here today.

The government need to take the problem in hand....not try and stamp it out....it's not working...that's plain to see.

The drachonian view on drugs in this country needs a huge overhaul but no one government has the balls to do it so they keep doing what they're doing and pumping the 'drugs are bad' message out and the sheep keep eating it up.

That's my opinion anyhow. "

Exactly - there is no such thing as the 'war on drugs'. It's a smokescreen to many many much wider political and socio-econnomic issues the world over.

Legalisation is the only way to control the flow, and it is happening in certain parts of the world. The UK will lag behind as always.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"He accepted that fact and didnt dispute it as their preference, he just added another point that alcohol is also a drug and it can be abused to a state that perhaps creates side effects that are worse than those who use drugs

It's a moot point - I mean define 'worse' in this context? Alcoholics, heroin addicts, -heads, stoners, pill-heads - there's a big difference in the way these drugs effect people, the level of use/abuse etc so this is a very varied discussion with no complete answer.

I dont know a lot about drugs, i just t they are illegal and i want them to play no part in my life and want no association with those who use them to get high.. if your life is shit and u need a chemical buzz from something your not the kinda person id want to know.

thats my stance on them. I dont have friends who go get bladdered or rely on alcohol regularly either to 'take the edge of a stressful day'..

signed *very boring person of Devon* "

Sassy....I love the bones of you...you know I do....but We'll never see eye to eye on this one xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

signed *very boring person of Devon*

Sassy....I love the bones of you...you know I do....but We'll never see eye to eye on this one xx "

never my dearest lol xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"An awful lot of people use illegal drugs in exactly the same way that people use alcohol - to say that their lives are somehow 'shit' because they like to smoke , do , pills etc is a little narrow minded (no offence). Plenty of people use drugs to enjoy a night in/out in exactly the same way that people drink.

I do neither by the way, but nowadays drug use is a lot more mainstream, better understood, and if it was made legal, would be better controlled. Anyway, that's a whole new debate.

if i'm all those things then fair enough, but they are my views and i stand by them.

"

There is always a wider debate, and you do have the choice to stick by your view, or find out more information and change that view. Not all drug users are drug abusers (there's a big difference), and there are many thousands of people who take drugs that have jobs, families etc the same as anyone else. You really don't have to be depressed, or have a shitty life to enjoy drugs - that's the only point I'm trying to make

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All this thread does is reinforce my belief that there is so little education and so much misinformation about the effects of recreational drugs vs the effects of alcohol. And tthat's scary

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Been fucked up and taken drugs.

Not so much drugs these days, still a bit fucked up but have grown up a lot.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All this thread does is reinforce my belief that there is so little education and so much misinformation about the effects of recreational drugs vs the effects of alcohol. And tthat's scary"

Indeed I agree with you there!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All this thread does is reinforce my belief that there is so little education and so much misinformation about the effects of recreational drugs vs the effects of alcohol. And tthat's scary"

I'm not sure that's true of everyone, but the thread is a very limited forum for people to fully express their views, or experiences. I think you might be surprised at how much people do know these days, but I do share your view that some people lack that information and take a very dim view without knowing the facts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drugs are worse than alcohol

No alcohol is legal. "

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

After reading this thread I've got a headache, anyone got anything for it,

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By *ngel_38Woman
over a year ago

Staffs


"To be fair alcohol is slightly different from class a drugs. A lot of couples will probably have a drink or two before meets or venturing to a club just to loosen up a little. I do think you are splitting hairs a bit here.

I didn't mention class a drugs.. I'm talking drugs full stop.

ALCOHOL IS A DRUG... Just sold legally over counter like medicine!

Not taking digs.. Just trying to figure how people pick and choose what they class a drug.

Lol "

Toyboys are a drug to me and ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After reading this thread I've got a headache, anyone got anything for it,"

Got some I've never smoked...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

There is always a wider debate, and you do have the choice to stick by your view, or find out more information and change that view. Not all drug users are drug abusers (there's a big difference), and there are many thousands of people who take drugs that have jobs, families etc the same as anyone else. You really don't have to be depressed, or have a shitty life to enjoy drugs - that's the only point I'm trying to make "

i accept that not all drug users are drug abusers.

i openly admit to not doing much research into this because ive not that much interest in it, (ignorance on my behalf - absolutely)

i lead a happy life without the need to get high from an external substance being introduced into my body, if i wanted a buzz, id use a natural chemical like endorphines to get it (jump on a rollercoaster etc)..

what happens when the chemical drug is no longer enough to satisfy that fun factor and it becomes the norm for that person? will they seek further harder drugs?

again i dont know much about drugs.

I am who i am, regardless of any time of day and it wont change much. I dont drink (had a few bucks fizz over crimbo but that was for the flavour rather than the getting pissed factor) Id not like to come across someone who is lovely but only because ive liked them due to a drug being consumed.. id rather like a person because they are naturally funny, creative and exciting.

Im shit with writing stuff but i know what i mean..

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)


"After reading this thread I've got a headache, anyone got anything for it,

Got some I've never smoked..."

I was hoping for an offer of a head massage... the pleasure endorphins should sort it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"All this thread does is reinforce my belief that there is so little education and so much misinformation about the effects of recreational drugs vs the effects of alcohol. And tthat's scary"

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Come across many a profile where people state they don't want people who take drugs .... Which is a fair point to make of course.

Yet it says they drink alcohol..

Is alcohol not a DRUG??

Just a question. Don't bit my head off? "

I enjoy the naivety of people who imagine that drug users will proclaim it on their profile or say ' ooops ya got me there ! ' when caught snorting a line.

caveat emptor ..

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To be fair alcohol is slightly different from class a drugs. A lot of couples will probably have a drink or two before meets or venturing to a club just to loosen up a little. I do think you are splitting hairs a bit here.

I didn't mention class a drugs.. I'm talking drugs full stop.

ALCOHOL IS A DRUG... Just sold legally over counter like medicine!

Not taking digs.. Just trying to figure how people pick and choose what they class a drug.

Lol

Toyboys are a drug to me and ? "

Cougars are mine... Hope they are both legal !

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"After reading this thread I've got a headache, anyone got anything for it,

Got some I've never smoked..."

Smoke it!

Oh no it's illegal. Don't.. Have a drink. Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Assuming they don't take them immediately before or during the meet, how would you know if someone used drugs ?

Obviously heroin users will, in general, offer signs that point towards drug use, but what if they smoke the odd joint, snort the odd line or pop the odd pill recreationally ?

Still drug use is it not ?

But most wouldn't be able to tell a recreational user from a non user.

Only habitual users would be on the radar for the majority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me.....and I could be way off....alcohol is legal because its so deeply intrenched in the psyche of the publicamd has been around so long, plus the revenue made off the tax off it.

Things like marijuana won't be legalised because as sure as eggs is eggs the government would be shit scared its a vote looser and the next government would get in on the promise of a tougher drugs policy.....so it stays illigal.

That's a ridiculously simplistic view but this page isn't big enough to fit every argument for and against every drug on it so I'll leave it at that.

Personally I am in favour of a relaxation on drug policies on general. Yes I have known the dark side of drugs, my brother was murdered over a little heroin (he was an addict himself) and I believe that if his killer (caught and in jail may I add) was getting his drugs from a legal source my brother may have been here today.

The government need to take the problem in hand....not try and stamp it out....it's not working...that's plain to see.

The drachonian view on drugs in this country needs a huge overhaul but no one government has the balls to do it so they keep doing what they're doing and pumping the 'drugs are bad' message out and the sheep keep eating it up.

That's my opinion anyhow. "

Good points and well made. Alcohol IS a drug. Just because it's legal doesn't make it any less so. Being legal, the making of it is regulated so when I drink, I know what I'm getting. Illegal drugs don't have any regulations it means they can be, and are, inclusive of a whole range of shit which is likely to do you more harm than the actual drug itself.

It is time people actually got factual about drugs as an issue and so informed opinions can make informed decisions, rather than it being a political football that that only serves itself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i accept that not all drug users are drug abusers.

i openly admit to not doing much research into this because ive not that much interest in it, (ignorance on my behalf - absolutely)

i lead a happy life without the need to get high from an external substance being introduced into my body, if i wanted a buzz, id use a natural chemical like endorphines to get it (jump on a rollercoaster etc)..

what happens when the chemical drug is no longer enough to satisfy that fun factor and it becomes the norm for that person? will they seek further harder drugs?

again i dont know much about drugs.

I am who i am, regardless of any time of day and it wont change much. I dont drink (had a few bucks fizz over crimbo but that was for the flavour rather than the getting pissed factor) Id not like to come across someone who is lovely but only because ive liked them due to a drug being consumed.. id rather like a person because they are naturally funny, creative and exciting.

Im shit with writing stuff but i know what i mean.. "

I know what you mean It's a popular misconception that people will turn to harder drugs - I know plenty of people who use drugs recreationally, and have done for over 20 years - none of them have moved onto anything harder in that time, so while it may be true of abusers sometimes, it's certainly not always true of users.

You can be happy, and be a recreational drug user in exactly the same way you can be happy and be a recreational drinker. There is absolutely no difference for a lot of people. Stoners like , nothing else. There are people who enjoy at the weekends, nothing else. Pill heads (E) that like to do E and dance all night, nothing else. None of these people have then moved onto Heroin or Meth simply because they got bored of their drug of choice - that simply doesn't happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

libertine x have you dabbled in drugs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"libertine x have you dabbled in drugs? "

Historically the mods close threads if people start discussing personal use.

Personally my professional and personal experiences echo 100% what Libertine X has posted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"libertine x have you dabbled in drugs?

Historically the mods close threads if people start discussing personal use.

Personally my professional and personal experiences echo 100% what Libertine X has posted"

appologies for asking, if admin could remove my post id be greatful. was cheeky.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It's just a discussion topic... Let's hope not!

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

I celebrated 15 years this year of being drug free. Do I judge others no I don't. People may take cocaine at a weekend it does not mean that they drug addicts it just means that they like to sniff a bit of every now and then. It's herion and crack and the meth etc that are the "dirty" drugs and which you will see a physical change in users. Cocaine and the more "cleaner" drugs you sometimes never can tell that someone has taken them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I celebrated 15 years this year of being drug free. Do I judge others no I don't. People may take cocaine at a weekend it does not mean that they drug addicts it just means that they like to sniff a bit of every now and then. It's herion and crack and the meth etc that are the "dirty" drugs and which you will see a physical change in users. Cocaine and the more "cleaner" drugs you sometimes never can tell that someone has taken them. "

Well said..

Guess you have a fair opinion having been ok both ends of the spectrum at some point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drugs are worse than alcohol

I disagree. I think alcohol is equally as strong if not stronger than most recreational drugs.

I used to own a nightclub and all the arguments, fights and people being sent off to hospital were always down to people drinking too much. I think drink is equally addictive too. We just accept drinking as the norm as it is widely accepted.

Try not having an alcoholic drink for 1 month...... a lot of people can't manage that, maybe that's because they're addicted.

I haven't drank in 4 years because it makes me act like a grade A ass hole. That said I think drink can be enjoyed responsibly by most. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I celebrated 15 years this year of being drug free. Do I judge others no I don't. People may take cocaine at a weekend it does not mean that they drug addicts it just means that they like to sniff a bit of every now and then. It's herion and crack and the meth etc that are the "dirty" drugs and which you will see a physical change in users. Cocaine and the more "cleaner" drugs you sometimes never can tell that someone has taken them. "

You can tell if they are "chewing the cud". I've spent many a night in my younger years trying to keep a straight face.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"I celebrated 15 years this year of being drug free. Do I judge others no I don't. People may take cocaine at a weekend it does not mean that they drug addicts it just means that they like to sniff a bit of every now and then. It's herion and crack and the meth etc that are the "dirty" drugs and which you will see a physical change in users. Cocaine and the more "cleaner" drugs you sometimes never can tell that someone has taken them.

You can tell if they are "chewing the cud". I've spent many a night in my younger years trying to keep a straight face. "

Haha that's true...

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

Of course they use alcohol in hospitals too, so it must be medicinal. Alcohol wipes, gels etc.

I can remember a time when they would give a glass of stout for certain conditions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Drugs are worse than alcohol

Errrrmmm

ALCOHOL is a DRUG

"

And so is coffee.

Portia

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Come across many a profile where people state they don't want people who take drugs .... Which is a fair point to make of course.

Yet it says they drink alcohol..

Is alcohol not a DRUG??

Just a question. Don't bit my head off?

"

Yes, alcohol is a drug and classified as a depressant.

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts

I had a meet off his head on . He then tried to do it in front of me. I literally kicked him out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I had a meet off his head on . He then tried to do it in front of me. I literally kicked him out. "

My God! How can one encounter such a person?!?

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By *arkedMan
over a year ago

Trim


"You can normally put the word illegal in front of the drugs preference, just as it's reasonable to assume safe sex seldom requires a hard hat and safety boots (though there are of course exceptions)"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally ive had guys who have taken before a meet and then turn into Mr Floppy (why would anyone want that)

Also for me if i was out with someone or in there car and they were carrying illegal drugs i would be mortified if they were arrested for it!

I like alcohol but i can leave it a long time without drinking months at a time if Im just not in the mood!

I honestly wish everyone could get as bouncy and happy as I do after a handful of skittles im like an exciteable puppy

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Personally ive had guys who have taken before a meet and then turn into Mr Floppy (why would anyone want that)

Also for me if i was out with someone or in there car and they were carrying illegal drugs i would be mortified if they were arrested for it!

I like alcohol but i can leave it a long time without drinking months at a time if Im just not in the mood!

I honestly wish everyone could get as bouncy and happy as I do a handful of skittles im like an exciteable puppy "

Gonna have to check the ingredients on skittles.

Just in case....

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over a year ago

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"I mean have you ever hung out with someone on E for example? Jaw all over the place, eyes rolling in their head? ."

Eh? Where did you see this?

E was very much part of my life in the 1990's and I would much rather hang out with someone on E than someone who was d*unk. Less likely to get into an argument with me, fight me, or get overly emotional and blurt out all their worries and problems.

Unfortunately, I grew up and out of it as well as those in that world but I have nothing but good memories.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Assuming the differential is legal or not?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally ive had guys who have taken before a meet and then turn into Mr Floppy (why would anyone want that)

Also for me if i was out with someone or in there car and they were carrying illegal drugs i would be mortified if they were arrested for it!

I like alcohol but i can leave it a long time without drinking months at a time if Im just not in the mood!

I honestly wish everyone could get as bouncy and happy as I do a handful of skittles im like an exciteable puppy

Gonna have to check the ingredients on skittles.

Just in case.... "

God knows what i react to in sweets or may just be the sugar much more fun and cheap as chips

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West


"To me.....and I could be way off....alcohol is legal because its so deeply intrenched in the psyche of the publicamd has been around so long, plus the revenue made off the tax off it.

Things like marijuana won't be legalised because as sure as eggs is eggs the government would be shit scared its a vote looser and the next government would get in on the promise of a tougher drugs policy.....so it stays illigal.

That's a ridiculously simplistic view but this page isn't big enough to fit every argument for and against every drug on it so I'll leave it at that.

Personally I am in favour of a relaxation on drug policies on general. Yes I have known the dark side of drugs, my brother was murdered over a little heroin (he was an addict himself) and I believe that if his killer (caught and in jail may I add) was getting his drugs from a legal source my brother may have been here today.

The government need to take the problem in hand....not try and stamp it out....it's not working...that's plain to see.

The drachonian view on drugs in this country needs a huge overhaul but no one government has the balls to do it so they keep doing what they're doing and pumping the 'drugs are bad' message out and the sheep keep eating it up.

That's my opinion anyhow. "

Nicely put. Sorry about your loss, but it is human stories like this that make a mockery of current drug laws.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally ive had guys who have taken before a meet and then turn into Mr Floppy (why would anyone want that)

Also for me if i was out with someone or in there car and they were carrying illegal drugs i would be mortified if they were arrested for it!

I like alcohol but i can leave it a long time without drinking months at a time if Im just not in the mood!

I honestly wish everyone could get as bouncy and happy as I do a handful of skittles im like an exciteable puppy

Gonna have to check the ingredients on skittles.

Just in case.... "

You,ll be bowled over..

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By *eMontresMan
over a year ago

Halesowen


"Of course they use alcohol in hospitals too, so it must be medicinal. Alcohol wipes, gels etc.

I can remember a time when they would give a glass of stout for certain conditions. "

Alcohol is a generic term for a class of chemicals - basically a string of hydrocarbons with one or more OH groups tacked on. The alcohol used in wipes is usually isopropyl alcohol, not the same as the alcohol we drink, which is ethyl alcohol or ethanol. There are literally hundreds of alcohols, most will kill you if you drink them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Personally ive had guys who have taken before a meet and then turn into Mr Floppy (why would anyone want that)

Also for me if i was out with someone or in there car and they were carrying illegal drugs i would be mortified if they were arrested for it!

I like alcohol but i can leave it a long time without drinking months at a time if Im just not in the mood!

I honestly wish everyone could get as bouncy and happy as I do a handful of skittles im like an exciteable puppy

Gonna have to check the ingredients on skittles.

Just in case....

God knows what i react to in sweets or may just be the sugar much more fun and cheap as chips"

What else you react to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The difference is the legality. I can't get on my moral high ground about anything as I drink like a fish ( only on nights out!) Paul rarely drinks, I've never taken or smoked drugs and Paul only dabbled when he was in Amsterdam.

However we would prefer people not to be under the influence of illegal drugs or have them on them when on a meet/night out with us. It's a preference that Is all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally ive had guys who have taken before a meet and then turn into Mr Floppy (why would anyone want that)

Also for me if i was out with someone or in there car and they were carrying illegal drugs i would be mortified if they were arrested for it!

I like alcohol but i can leave it a long time without drinking months at a time if Im just not in the mood!

I honestly wish everyone could get as bouncy and happy as I do a handful of skittles im like an exciteable puppy

Gonna have to check the ingredients on skittles.

Just in case....

God knows what i react to in sweets or may just be the sugar much more fun and cheap as chips

What else you react to?"

Haribo and monster (weirdly not caffeine though)

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Personally ive had guys who have taken before a meet and then turn into Mr Floppy (why would anyone want that)

Also for me if i was out with someone or in there car and they were carrying illegal drugs i would be mortified if they were arrested for it!

I like alcohol but i can leave it a long time without drinking months at a time if Im just not in the mood!

I honestly wish everyone could get as

bouncy and happy as I do a handful of skittles im like an exciteable puppy

Gonna have to check the ingredients on skittles.

Just in case....

God knows what i react to in sweets or may just be the sugar much more fun and cheap as chips

What else you react to?

Haribo and monster (weirdly not caffeine though)"

It's official... Your weird

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally ive had guys who have taken before a meet and then turn into Mr Floppy (why would anyone want that)

Also for me if i was out with someone or in there car and they were carrying illegal drugs i would be mortified if they were arrested for it!

I like alcohol but i can leave it a long time without drinking months at a time if Im just not in the mood!

I honestly wish everyone could get as

bouncy and happy as I do a handful of skittles im like an exciteable puppy

Gonna have to check the ingredients on skittles.

Just in case....

God knows what i react to in sweets or may just be the sugar much more fun and cheap as chips

What else you react to?

Haribo and monster (weirdly not caffeine though)

It's official... Your weird "

I knew that haha

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Personally ive had guys who have taken before a meet and then turn into Mr Floppy (why would anyone want that)

Also for me if i was out with someone or in there car and they were carrying illegal drugs i would be mortified if they were arrested for it!

I like alcohol but i can leave it a long time without drinking months at a time if Im just not in the mood!

I honestly wish everyone could get as

bouncy and happy as I do a handful of skittles im like an exciteable puppy

Gonna have to check the ingredients on skittles.

Just in case....

God knows what i react to in sweets or may just be the sugar much more fun and cheap as chips

What else you react to?

Haribo and monster (weirdly not caffeine though)

It's official... Your weird

I knew that haha "

Not like I can talk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm giving up alcohol for the month of January.

Wish me luck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are different kinds of alcohol. Ethyl alcohol (ethanol), the only alcohol used in beverages, is produced by the fermentation of grains and fruits. Fermenting is a chemical process whereby yeast acts upon certain ingredients in the food, creating alcohol.

Alcohol is best understood as a drug that reduces a person’s ability to think rationally and distorts his or her judgment.

It is classified as a depressant, though the amount of alcohol consumed determines the type of effect. Most people drink for the stimulant effect, such as a beer or glass of wine taken to “loosen up.” But if a person consumes more than the body can handle, they then experience alcohol’s depressant effect. They start to feel “stupid” or lose coordination and control. Excessive alcohol can lead to toxicity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The difference is that alcohol is legal and not everyone becomes addicted to it, drugs are highly illegal so if they're found in the other person's possession in your house you can be liable for interrogation and aggravation too and drugs are 100% addictive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't meet someone if they were into drugs. A tad judgemental? No! Totally judgemental! Definitely not my thing - junkies,stoners, heads or whatever. Same goes for people who can't meet without being pissed. Social drinking yep thats ok but nothing sexy about someone being totally out of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The difference is that alcohol is legal and not everyone becomes addicted to it, drugs are highly illegal so if they're found in the other person's possession in your house you can be liable for interrogation and aggravation too and drugs are 100% addictive "

Drugs are 100% addictive? Presumably you have a source to back up that sort of ridiculous claim?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The difference is that alcohol is legal and not everyone becomes addicted to it, drugs are highly illegal so if they're found in the other person's possession in your house you can be liable for interrogation and aggravation too and drugs are 100% addictive

Drugs are 100% addictive? Presumably you have a source to back up that sort of ridiculous claim?"

Facts just get in the way, surely you know that!

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