FabSwingers.com forum: Missing plane :(

By *hortie OP Woman
over a year ago

Northampton

''An Air Asia flight from the Indonesia city of Surabaya to Singapore has lost contact with air traffic control, reports say.

Indonesian media say 162 people were on board.

The aircraft, flight number QZ8501, lost contact with Jakarta air traffic control just after 06:15am local time, a transport official told local media.

The official, Hadi Mustofa, said the plane had asked for an unusual route before losing contact.''

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30614627

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By *asmanian TigerMan
over a year ago

lala land

Not another one god

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not another one god

That's what I thought too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just had a look on your link.what is the world coming to?

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Not good at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reports of a plane crash in the ocean off the east coast of Belitung which - from my uninformed quick check on google maps - would appear to be in the middle of the flight path....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In an area renowned throughout the industry for throwing caution to the wind safety wise, Malaysia has ,until this year, had a very good safety record.

The area is prone to bad weather and I am sure that this will have played a part in this planes disappearance.

It is pure conjecture, but I would not be surprised at all to see weather playing a part of this incident.

Ice in the pitot tubes + an inexperienced or arrogant crew often spells disaster.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

According to BBC news 'Missing flight #QZ8501 had asked for "deviation" from usual route owing to weather'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this just in from the new straits times

KUALA LUMPUR: An aircraft has reportedly crashed off the east coast of Sumatera, in the waters of East Belitung.

This report came after authorities confirmed that AirAsia Flight QZ8501 went missing earlier today.

An Indonesian news portal Bangka Pos had quoted an official from H.A.S Hanandjoeddin Tanjungpandan Airport in Indonesia, Suparno, said the exact location of the crash site has not been identified.

The portal also reported that the Indonesian national search and rescue agency (Basarnas) team from Bangka Belitung were heading to East Belitung waters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"According to BBC news 'Missing flight #QZ8501 had asked for "deviation" from usual route owing to weather'. "

That's pretty normal if there is bad weather about.

Weather for flying in that area is rarely great.

Coupled with that, many operators in the area have poor maintenance records.

Pretty much the entire civil aviation fleets of some countries are on the EU 'no fly' list, barring them flying into European airspace. Indonesia and The Philippines are on that list.

Air Asia is not.

Pilot training and pilot salaries are poor by the standards of many legacy carriers and a lot of pilots 'earn their wings' in this region, especially after the growth of low cost carriers has led to a growth in the need for pilots.

Sorry. I am being geeky.

J hates it when I get like this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

wreckage confirmed located . very sad .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ohh god not again!!! Have they said if there are any survivors or were all P.O.B's lost??

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I think so many people being killed at the same time hits you harder than any statistic about the number of deaths on the roads on a given day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also a ferry just off corfu on fire in very rough seas. .awful.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

very sad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so many people being killed at the same time hits you harder than any statistic about the number of deaths on the roads on a given day.

Very true. This crash is awful and I am saddened by it. But it's also sad how many are dying in places like Syria on a daily basis and we barely bother to read about it now.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

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By *afadaoMan
over a year ago

Staines

How very sensitive of the airline to announce this by Tweeting it.

What a way to find out that a family member has been killed.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

oh dear, there was a British passenger...

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By *onitoMan
over a year ago

Milton of Campsie

Lets see what lessons have been learnt since the MH370 crash

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"oh dear, there was a British passenger...

16 children and one baby but the British passenger will be the story.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How very sensitive of the airline to announce this by Tweeting it.

What a way to find out that a family member has been killed."

Was that their only form of communicating with the families?

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

"I think so many people being killed at the same time hits you harder than any statistic about the number of deaths on the roads on a given day.

Very true. This crash is awful and I am saddened by it. But it's also sad how many are dying in places like Syria on a daily basis and we barely bother to read about it now."

sadly it's not news anymore I think people assume it's the norm now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

CB clouds on the area up to 55,000 feet. That is higher than the ceiling height for any airliner.

So they weren't going over if. If the clouds were widespread, the only to go is through it.

The crew had 8,000 flight hours between them. That's not a lot for many commercial flyers.

Weather and poor crew decisions I am guessing.

The plane was registered in Indonesia,not Malaysia, as earlier reports had suggested.

Air Asia is a Malaysian business but has various subsidiary companies such as Air Asia Thailand, Air Asia X, Air Asia Philippines and Air Asia India.

The plane that went down belonged to Air Asia Indonesia. It is one of about only 5 Indonesian airlines NOT barred from flying within the EU.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a very sad thing to happen, very scary also.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

However back to the main topic of thread how very sad to hear this. The poor passengers I take it there were no survivors?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"oh dear, there was a British passenger...

16 children and one baby but the British passenger will be the story."

I HATE when they report how many Brits died. Thousands die in a natural disaster. People walk on by. "3 Brits died" in same disaster. People suddenly voice what a terrible shame it was.

Aaaaarrrggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"oh dear, there was a British passenger...

16 children and one baby but the British passenger will be the story.

I HATE when they report how many Brits died. Thousands die in a natural disaster. People walk on by. "3 Brits died" in same disaster. People suddenly voice what a terrible shame it was.

Aaaaarrrggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

I know exactly what you mean & yes, it's extremely cringeworthy, - but they can hardly just not report it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"oh dear, there was a British passenger...

16 children and one baby but the British passenger will be the story.

I HATE when they report how many Brits died. Thousands die in a natural disaster. People walk on by. "3 Brits died" in same disaster. People suddenly voice what a terrible shame it was.

Aaaaarrrggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

I know exactly what you mean & yes, it's extremely cringeworthy, - but they can hardly just not report it."

I know. But the front pages yesterday- 'Brit missing' with the poor guy's photo. Then in tiny writing about the rest of the people. It's crap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The BBC are reporting that they have found wreckage and 1 body

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The BBC are reporting that they have found wreckage and 1 body

"
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Is it clarkson or Hammond

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has anyone seen the Fox News report that blames the metric system for this and pretty much any crash outside the US?!

After seeing it I now fully understand why Fox it the butt of so many jokes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Has anyone seen the Fox News report that blames the metric system for this and pretty much any crash outside the US?!

After seeing it I now fully understand why Fox it the butt of so many jokes."
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Fox still think Saeed Al-Ghamdi flew the plane at 911. In fact they believe anything that they think will get them a _iewer.

I wonder how they get on when they cross the border into Canada while driving!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't it still safer than driving?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Has anyone seen the Fox News report that blames the metric system for this and pretty much any crash outside the US?!

After seeing it I now fully understand why Fox it the butt of so many jokes."

Some Americans believe what they see on the telly..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it still safer than driving? "

Very much so.

Air travel is still the safest form of travel....

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By *onitoMan
over a year ago

Milton of Campsie

"Has anyone seen the Fox News report that blames the metric system for this and pretty much any crash outside the US?!

After seeing it I now fully understand why Fox it the butt of so many jokes."

Reports coming in its the MH370 and script writers are now working on a new tv series

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reports on the BBC website that a war ship has recovered 40 bodies and the numbers are growing.

Very sad and I feel for the relatives and friends waiting for any news

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"oh dear, there was a British passenger...

16 children and one baby but the British passenger will be the story.

I HATE when they report how many Brits died. Thousands die in a natural disaster. People walk on by. "3 Brits died" in same disaster. People suddenly voice what a terrible shame it was.

Aaaaarrrggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Isn't it still safer than driving?

Very much so.

Air travel is still the safest form of travel...."
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Errr not true.

The elevator is the safest form of travel.

Air travel is only safe because of the stringent rules applied to it, if you took the same rules and applied them to vehicles I think cars would be safer.

The genius and longevity of the jet engine is also is weakest point.... One working part!

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