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"Has he been in-car-cerated? " Oh dear!! Someone's been opening the Xmas crackers early | |||
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"And spending the last 7 hours preventing a handicap person from using the space. His car should be towed away!" this | |||
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"And spending the last 7 hours preventing a handicap person from using the space. His car should be towed away! this His car is on the tow truck, not in the space. They can't move off if he's in there. " They both should be ashamed | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. " I'm sure its even more annoying for disabled drivers when able bodied people take up spaces allocated for disabled drivers. | |||
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"And spending the last 7 hours preventing a handicap person from using the space. His car should be towed away! this" Yep, have to agree, these aren't rogue clampers, it's the official highways people. He parked in a disabled bay, got the fine, didn't return in a specified time so the next stage was removal, but he jumped in the car when it was on the wagon and now they can't drive off, or unload the car and he won't get out. It's a disabled bay, he was too lazy to find somewhere legal to park and walk a short way. As a double glazing rep, his time is clearly more valuable than anyone else's. Hope they taser him and lock him up for all the resources and time he's wasted. | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. I'm sure its even more annoying for disabled drivers when able bodied people take up spaces allocated for disabled drivers. " Maybe, but I just watched the video of this on the news and the entire street was marked down as disabled spaces, and probably 60% of those spaces were empty. Now I agree if your taking a space of some one who needs it more then that's bad. But if there are loads of free spaces then your not depriving anyone. That being said, rules are rules and you takes your chance | |||
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"Took his chance when he parked in the spot. He should have thought about the fact whether he could take the consequences before he done it. The fact that the fee to release the car is exorbitant is irrelevant he should pay for his actions. Nobody to blame but himself. Very funny though and very British. Totally agree " | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. " The percentage of disabled bays in a car park is set out by law. I believe the amount depends upon the size of the car park. | |||
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"Taser him save the tax payer dome money!!" we building another dome?! | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. The percentage of disabled bays in a car park is set out by law. I believe the amount depends upon the size of the car park. " I'd imagine it would be a percentage of the total amount of spaces, and I'm sure there is a minimum set out by law. Question is is there a maximum, conspiracy theory tinfoil hat on now. What if they are over subscribing the amount of disabled parking spaces in a vailed attempt to get people to illegally park there by increasing revenue from parking fines and towings. Obviously utter bollocks cos I'm board..... But is it | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. " Oh those greedy disabled people who either have difficulty walking or cannot walk at all as they are wheelchair bound! They are so selfish!! | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. " That's a pretty selfish point of _iew | |||
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"at our local sapermarket there are more disabled spaces than disabled people in the whole bloody town !!! I ALWAYS PARK IN ONE " Are you disabled? | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. Oh those greedy disabled people who either have difficulty walking or cannot walk at all as they are wheelchair bound! They are so selfish!!" I never said that did i, the point I'm making is if there are 10 disabled spaces and there is only ever 2 used at a time wouldn't it be an idea to relinquish some | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew " How is it selfish, I don't park in them | |||
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"at our local sapermarket there are more disabled spaces than disabled people in the whole bloody town !!! I ALWAYS PARK IN ONE " Well done you. And kudos on carrying out the survey to discover exactly how many disabled people there are in your town at any given point. Maybe share your findings with the local council to make planning their next parking scheme easier? | |||
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"at our local sapermarket there are more disabled spaces than disabled people in the whole bloody town !!! I ALWAYS PARK IN ONE Well done you. And kudos on carrying out the survey to discover exactly how many disabled people there are in your town at any given point. Maybe share your findings with the local council to make planning their next parking scheme easier? " | |||
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"I got clamped for over parking on a disabled parking space . Although I was unaware that I had done it ( some muppet over parks their line and so on and so on ) I had to pay the penalty. Even got a rollicking from some old chap for doing so . Wasn't intentional as was a run for the cash point . Turned out to be an expensive trip ( £1.85 for cash withdrawal , £70 clamp , £45 wheel refurb from damage being clamped ) . Funny enough I do now check if I'm in the lines when parking . End of the day I was in the wrong . I excepted that and paid the price .this chap should do the same . Stop being a be**end and pay the price . " They damaged your wheel? They are liable and should pay the return fee not you | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them " So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something | |||
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"Am i fuck i just dont give a fuck, i also have the same disregard for parking and speeding tickets . them bastards never get a penny out of me ! " You seem antisocial but oddly proud of it. | |||
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"Am i fuck i just dont give a fuck, i also have the same disregard for parking and speeding tickets . them bastards never get a penny out of me ! " Yes of course. Because everyone can avoid paying those. What utter crap | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something" Yes you are missing something, but don't worry you are making up for it with false indignation. I don't have a problem with disabled spaces both my parents are blue badge holders. I merely questioned the ratio of disabled parking spaces to none disabled parking spaces. In my experience (and I've been a car driver for over 25 years so this is extensive) there are often very many more disabled spaces than seems to be required. | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something Yes you are missing something, but don't worry you are making up for it with false indignation. I don't have a problem with disabled spaces both my parents are blue badge holders. I merely questioned the ratio of disabled parking spaces to none disabled parking spaces. In my experience (and I've been a car driver for over 25 years so this is extensive) there are often very many more disabled spaces than seems to be required. " Sorry when you said it amnoyed you. I assumed you meant it annoyed you. I must have missed the rhetorical question How many disabled spaces do you think there should be? | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something Yes you are missing something, but don't worry you are making up for it with false indignation. I don't have a problem with disabled spaces both my parents are blue badge holders. I merely questioned the ratio of disabled parking spaces to none disabled parking spaces. In my experience (and I've been a car driver for over 25 years so this is extensive) there are often very many more disabled spaces than seems to be required. Sorry when you said it amnoyed you. I assumed you meant it annoyed you. I must have missed the rhetorical question How many disabled spaces do you think there should be?" As it happens I don't mind having to have a little walk if there is some where safe and secure to park my car. This is often not the case. I'm not a traffic management expert, but it seems to me that. The council must know how many parking spaces they have, and they must know how many blue badges they have so it's not rocket science is it. Plus they do tragic audits so they can see if they have done the sums right. | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. Oh those greedy disabled people who either have difficulty walking or cannot walk at all as they are wheelchair bound! They are so selfish!!" He never said they were selfish. He questioned how the quota of disabled was allocated as there often seems to be more than is actually required. | |||
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"A lot of people park in disabled spaces who should not and do not need to. Any one who parks in a blue badge space should have their car crushed. For those who are able bodied a walk is not a problem. For those who are disabled it is a major problem and wide spaces are needed so that some one in a wheelchair can get in and out of a car." Let me get this right, your advocating the destruction of personal property for a minor parking infringement. | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. Oh those greedy disabled people who either have difficulty walking or cannot walk at all as they are wheelchair bound! They are so selfish!! He never said they were selfish. He questioned how the quota of disabled was allocated as there often seems to be more than is actually required. " | |||
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"A lot of people park in disabled spaces who should not and do not need to. Any one who parks in a blue badge space should have their car crushed. For those who are able bodied a walk is not a problem. For those who are disabled it is a major problem and wide spaces are needed so that some one in a wheelchair can get in and out of a car." There are so many car parks on the outskirts of Birmingham that only charge £2.20 for the whole day, about a 10 minute walk from Bennetts Hill, which at the best of times is a bitch to drive round...fucking numskull, they should have thrown the fucking book at him. and thrown it again for all the fucking trouble he caused. | |||
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"A lot of people park in disabled spaces who should not and do not need to. Any one who parks in a blue badge space should have their car crushed. For those who are able bodied a walk is not a problem. For those who are disabled it is a major problem and wide spaces are needed so that some one in a wheelchair can get in and out of a car.There are so many car parks on the outskirts of Birmingham that only charge £2.20 for the whole day, about a 10 minute walk from Bennetts Hill, which at the best of times is a bitch to drive round...fucking numskull, they should have thrown the fucking book at him. and thrown it again for all the fucking trouble he caused." Bring back the death penalty | |||
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"A lot of people park in disabled spaces who should not and do not need to. Any one who parks in a blue badge space should have their car crushed. For those who are able bodied a walk is not a problem. For those who are disabled it is a major problem and wide spaces are needed so that some one in a wheelchair can get in and out of a car.There are so many car parks on the outskirts of Birmingham that only charge £2.20 for the whole day, about a 10 minute walk from Bennetts Hill, which at the best of times is a bitch to drive round...fucking numskull, they should have thrown the fucking book at him. and thrown it again for all the fucking trouble he caused. Bring back the death penalty " | |||
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"A lot of people park in disabled spaces who should not and do not need to. Any one who parks in a blue badge space should have their car crushed. For those who are able bodied a walk is not a problem. For those who are disabled it is a major problem and wide spaces are needed so that some one in a wheelchair can get in and out of a car. Let me get this right, your advocating the destruction of personal property for a minor parking infringement. " Why not they are clearly marked. Try finding a space when you need one suitable for a wheelchair and if you do find one look at the amount of cars in spaces that do not have blue badges. Drivers know the law and should obey it. if they decide not to then they should suffer the consequences. | |||
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"A lot of people park in disabled spaces who should not and do not need to. Any one who parks in a blue badge space should have their car crushed. For those who are able bodied a walk is not a problem. For those who are disabled it is a major problem and wide spaces are needed so that some one in a wheelchair can get in and out of a car. Let me get this right, your advocating the destruction of personal property for a minor parking infringement. Why not they are clearly marked. Try finding a space when you need one suitable for a wheelchair and if you do find one look at the amount of cars in spaces that do not have blue badges. Drivers know the law and should obey it. if they decide not to then they should suffer the consequences. " | |||
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"A lot of people park in disabled spaces who should not and do not need to. Any one who parks in a blue badge space should have their car crushed. For those who are able bodied a walk is not a problem. For those who are disabled it is a major problem and wide spaces are needed so that some one in a wheelchair can get in and out of a car.There are so many car parks on the outskirts of Birmingham that only charge £2.20 for the whole day, about a 10 minute walk from Bennetts Hill, which at the best of times is a bitch to drive round...fucking numskull, they should have thrown the fucking book at him. and thrown it again for all the fucking trouble he caused. Bring back the death penalty " You're right, too lenient. How about hanged, drawn and quartered? | |||
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"A lot of people park in disabled spaces who should not and do not need to. Any one who parks in a blue badge space should have their car crushed. For those who are able bodied a walk is not a problem. For those who are disabled it is a major problem and wide spaces are needed so that some one in a wheelchair can get in and out of a car. Let me get this right, your advocating the destruction of personal property for a minor parking infringement. Why not they are clearly marked. Try finding a space when you need one suitable for a wheelchair and if you do find one look at the amount of cars in spaces that do not have blue badges. Drivers know the law and should obey it. if they decide not to then they should suffer the consequences. " Maybe you should move to Manchester then cos they have a surplus of disabled parking spaces here. I know that's flippant and not very helpful if you need a disabled space and there arnt any. But your talking about destroying some ones pride and joy because they have unconvinced you. Let's get it into perspective | |||
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"A lot of people park in disabled spaces who should not and do not need to. Any one who parks in a blue badge space should have their car crushed. For those who are able bodied a walk is not a problem. For those who are disabled it is a major problem and wide spaces are needed so that some one in a wheelchair can get in and out of a car. Let me get this right, your advocating the destruction of personal property for a minor parking infringement. Why not they are clearly marked. Try finding a space when you need one suitable for a wheelchair and if you do find one look at the amount of cars in spaces that do not have blue badges. Drivers know the law and should obey it. if they decide not to then they should suffer the consequences. " Let's be honest anyone that regularly intentionally parks in them is probably not the most considerate dtiver as demonstrated by posts earlier in tge thread. Too many people _iew driving as a right and not a privilege | |||
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"A lot of people park in disabled spaces who should not and do not need to. Any one who parks in a blue badge space should have their car crushed. For those who are able bodied a walk is not a problem. For those who are disabled it is a major problem and wide spaces are needed so that some one in a wheelchair can get in and out of a car. Let me get this right, your advocating the destruction of personal property for a minor parking infringement. Why not they are clearly marked. Try finding a space when you need one suitable for a wheelchair and if you do find one look at the amount of cars in spaces that do not have blue badges. Drivers know the law and should obey it. if they decide not to then they should suffer the consequences. Maybe you should move to Manchester then cos they have a surplus of disabled parking spaces here. I know that's flippant and not very helpful if you need a disabled space and there arnt any. But your talking about destroying some ones pride and joy because they have unconvinced you. Let's get it into perspective " It's because they've broken the law not because they are inconveniencing people | |||
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"A lot of people park in disabled spaces who should not and do not need to. Any one who parks in a blue badge space should have their car crushed. For those who are able bodied a walk is not a problem. For those who are disabled it is a major problem and wide spaces are needed so that some one in a wheelchair can get in and out of a car. Let me get this right, your advocating the destruction of personal property for a minor parking infringement. Why not they are clearly marked. Try finding a space when you need one suitable for a wheelchair and if you do find one look at the amount of cars in spaces that do not have blue badges. Drivers know the law and should obey it. if they decide not to then they should suffer the consequences. Let's be honest anyone that regularly intentionally parks in them is probably not the most considerate dtiver as demonstrated by posts earlier in tge thread. Too many people _iew driving as a right and not a privilege" Driving is a right that we pay very dearly for. We are taxed on every aspect of owning and operating a car, for many people their car is essential, with the poor state of public transport the country would grind to a halt if people didn't have access to thier cars | |||
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"serves him right.. its not like the disabled bays are not clearly marked.." And it's not like everyone who has a disabled badge can't walk. | |||
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"A lot of people park in disabled spaces who should not and do not need to. Any one who parks in a blue badge space should have their car crushed. For those who are able bodied a walk is not a problem. For those who are disabled it is a major problem and wide spaces are needed so that some one in a wheelchair can get in and out of a car. Let me get this right, your advocating the destruction of personal property for a minor parking infringement. Why not they are clearly marked. Try finding a space when you need one suitable for a wheelchair and if you do find one look at the amount of cars in spaces that do not have blue badges. Drivers know the law and should obey it. if they decide not to then they should suffer the consequences. Maybe you should move to Manchester then cos they have a surplus of disabled parking spaces here. I know that's flippant and not very helpful if you need a disabled space and there arnt any. But your talking about destroying some ones pride and joy because they have unconvinced you. Let's get it into perspective It's because they've broken the law not because they are inconveniencing people" But the punishment must fit the crime, it should be appropriate. | |||
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"Why don't they put disabled spaces at the far end of the car park. Then people wouldn't be tempted to park in them " good idea, especially for the ones who have eaten themselves disabled. | |||
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"Why don't they put disabled spaces at the far end of the car park. Then people wouldn't be tempted to park in them good idea, especially for the ones who have eaten themselves disabled. " For the fatties they could call it therapy | |||
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"A lot of people park in disabled spaces who should not and do not need to. Any one who parks in a blue badge space should have their car crushed. For those who are able bodied a walk is not a problem. For those who are disabled it is a major problem and wide spaces are needed so that some one in a wheelchair can get in and out of a car. Let me get this right, your advocating the destruction of personal property for a minor parking infringement. Why not they are clearly marked. Try finding a space when you need one suitable for a wheelchair and if you do find one look at the amount of cars in spaces that do not have blue badges. Drivers know the law and should obey it. if they decide not to then they should suffer the consequences. Let's be honest anyone that regularly intentionally parks in them is probably not the most considerate dtiver as demonstrated by posts earlier in tge thread. Too many people _iew driving as a right and not a privilege Driving is a right that we pay very dearly for. We are taxed on every aspect of owning and operating a car, for many people their car is essential, with the poor state of public transport the country would grind to a halt if people didn't have access to thier cars" Driving is not a right. If it was a right you wouldn't need to pass a test | |||
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"Why don't they put disabled spaces at the far end of the car park. Then people wouldn't be tempted to park in them good idea, especially for the ones who have eaten themselves disabled. For the fatties they could call it therapy " What about the people who are disabled through car accidents and are wheelchair bound due to careless drivers? Yeah, hilarious, let's move disabled spaces as far away as possible. | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. Oh those greedy disabled people who either have difficulty walking or cannot walk at all as they are wheelchair bound! They are so selfish!! He never said they were selfish. He questioned how the quota of disabled was allocated as there often seems to be more than is actually required. " How does he know how many disabled spaces are actually required? And what does it matter anyway? There are a lot less disabled spaces than there are spaces for able bodied people, there should be a lot more! My sister has a wheelchair bound child, her van has to have plenty of room to be able to open the back of the van and let the lift down. The amount of selfish and inconsiderate people in this world astounds me! | |||
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"Wheelchairs must be easier and more fun than walking right? " No, they're not. Hopefully you won't have to be confined to one, and hopefully you'll grow up to realise you're insulting. | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something Yes you are missing something, but don't worry you are making up for it with false indignation. I don't have a problem with disabled spaces both my parents are blue badge holders. I merely questioned the ratio of disabled parking spaces to none disabled parking spaces. In my experience (and I've been a car driver for over 25 years so this is extensive) there are often very many more disabled spaces than seems to be required. Sorry when you said it amnoyed you. I assumed you meant it annoyed you. I must have missed the rhetorical question How many disabled spaces do you think there should be? As it happens I don't mind having to have a little walk if there is some where safe and secure to park my car. This is often not the case. I'm not a traffic management expert, but it seems to me that. The council must know how many parking spaces they have, and they must know how many blue badges they have so it's not rocket science is it. Plus they do tragic audits so they can see if they have done the sums right. " What has the amount of blue badges got to do with anything? Your logic is massively flawed so while it's not rocket science it's probably best left to people with some knowledge | |||
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"A lot of people park in disabled spaces who should not and do not need to. Any one who parks in a blue badge space should have their car crushed. For those who are able bodied a walk is not a problem. For those who are disabled it is a major problem and wide spaces are needed so that some one in a wheelchair can get in and out of a car. Let me get this right, your advocating the destruction of personal property for a minor parking infringement. Why not they are clearly marked. Try finding a space when you need one suitable for a wheelchair and if you do find one look at the amount of cars in spaces that do not have blue badges. Drivers know the law and should obey it. if they decide not to then they should suffer the consequences. Let's be honest anyone that regularly intentionally parks in them is probably not the most considerate dtiver as demonstrated by posts earlier in tge thread. Too many people _iew driving as a right and not a privilege Driving is a right that we pay very dearly for. We are taxed on every aspect of owning and operating a car, for many people their car is essential, with the poor state of public transport the country would grind to a halt if people didn't have access to thier cars Driving is not a right. If it was a right you wouldn't need to pass a test" Yes it is its bought and paid for, and as I seem to remeber you have to also pay for that test to say nothing of the lessons (I believe now your required a certain number from a qualified instructor now too) | |||
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"Wheelchairs must be easier and more fun than walking right? No, they're not. Hopefully you won't have to be confined to one, and hopefully you'll grow up to realise you're insulting. " sorry, just my sick sense of humour, spent 5 years in a chair. | |||
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"serves him right.. its not like the disabled bays are not clearly marked.. And it's not like everyone who has a disabled badge can't walk. " that's a separate issue . . The allocation of blue badges is not what this is about | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something Yes you are missing something, but don't worry you are making up for it with false indignation. I don't have a problem with disabled spaces both my parents are blue badge holders. I merely questioned the ratio of disabled parking spaces to none disabled parking spaces. In my experience (and I've been a car driver for over 25 years so this is extensive) there are often very many more disabled spaces than seems to be required. Sorry when you said it amnoyed you. I assumed you meant it annoyed you. I must have missed the rhetorical question How many disabled spaces do you think there should be? As it happens I don't mind having to have a little walk if there is some where safe and secure to park my car. This is often not the case. I'm not a traffic management expert, but it seems to me that. The council must know how many parking spaces they have, and they must know how many blue badges they have so it's not rocket science is it. Plus they do tragic audits so they can see if they have done the sums right. What has the amount of blue badges got to do with anything? Your logic is massively flawed so while it's not rocket science it's probably best left to people with some knowledge " Sorry I thought you needed a blue badge to be entitled to use a disabled space. These badges are issued by the local authority Who are also responsible for ensuring there are adequate disabled parking spaces. Can you explain to me where my logic is flawed | |||
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"Why don't they put disabled spaces at the far end of the car park. Then people wouldn't be tempted to park in them good idea, especially for the ones who have eaten themselves disabled. For the fatties they could call it therapy What about the people who are disabled through car accidents and are wheelchair bound due to careless drivers? Yeah, hilarious, let's move disabled spaces as far away as possible. " it was irony . . And i stole it from Viz . . Please try and see that | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something Yes you are missing something, but don't worry you are making up for it with false indignation. I don't have a problem with disabled spaces both my parents are blue badge holders. I merely questioned the ratio of disabled parking spaces to none disabled parking spaces. In my experience (and I've been a car driver for over 25 years so this is extensive) there are often very many more disabled spaces than seems to be required. Sorry when you said it amnoyed you. I assumed you meant it annoyed you. I must have missed the rhetorical question How many disabled spaces do you think there should be? As it happens I don't mind having to have a little walk if there is some where safe and secure to park my car. This is often not the case. I'm not a traffic management expert, but it seems to me that. The council must know how many parking spaces they have, and they must know how many blue badges they have so it's not rocket science is it. Plus they do tragic audits so they can see if they have done the sums right. What has the amount of blue badges got to do with anything? Your logic is massively flawed so while it's not rocket science it's probably best left to people with some knowledge Sorry I thought you needed a blue badge to be entitled to use a disabled space. These badges are issued by the local authority Who are also responsible for ensuring there are adequate disabled parking spaces. Can you explain to me where my logic is flawed" Blue Badge holders aren't restricted to their home town. You have to allow for other visitors, too. For example, I bet London receives more Blue Badge holding cars than the volume of Blue Badges it has issued. | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something Yes you are missing something, but don't worry you are making up for it with false indignation. I don't have a problem with disabled spaces both my parents are blue badge holders. I merely questioned the ratio of disabled parking spaces to none disabled parking spaces. In my experience (and I've been a car driver for over 25 years so this is extensive) there are often very many more disabled spaces than seems to be required. Sorry when you said it amnoyed you. I assumed you meant it annoyed you. I must have missed the rhetorical question How many disabled spaces do you think there should be? As it happens I don't mind having to have a little walk if there is some where safe and secure to park my car. This is often not the case. I'm not a traffic management expert, but it seems to me that. The council must know how many parking spaces they have, and they must know how many blue badges they have so it's not rocket science is it. Plus they do tragic audits so they can see if they have done the sums right. What has the amount of blue badges got to do with anything? Your logic is massively flawed so while it's not rocket science it's probably best left to people with some knowledge Sorry I thought you needed a blue badge to be entitled to use a disabled space. These badges are issued by the local authority Who are also responsible for ensuring there are adequate disabled parking spaces. Can you explain to me where my logic is flawed" as usual. . Your logic is flawed in the fact that the section of the LA that is actioned to remove a car from a bay does not sit down and work out how disabled the people that might have wanted those spaces is , before it dispatches the tow truck . | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something Yes you are missing something, but don't worry you are making up for it with false indignation. I don't have a problem with disabled spaces both my parents are blue badge holders. I merely questioned the ratio of disabled parking spaces to none disabled parking spaces. In my experience (and I've been a car driver for over 25 years so this is extensive) there are often very many more disabled spaces than seems to be required. Sorry when you said it amnoyed you. I assumed you meant it annoyed you. I must have missed the rhetorical question How many disabled spaces do you think there should be? As it happens I don't mind having to have a little walk if there is some where safe and secure to park my car. This is often not the case. I'm not a traffic management expert, but it seems to me that. The council must know how many parking spaces they have, and they must know how many blue badges they have so it's not rocket science is it. Plus they do tragic audits so they can see if they have done the sums right. What has the amount of blue badges got to do with anything? Your logic is massively flawed so while it's not rocket science it's probably best left to people with some knowledge Sorry I thought you needed a blue badge to be entitled to use a disabled space. These badges are issued by the local authority Who are also responsible for ensuring there are adequate disabled parking spaces. Can you explain to me where my logic is flawed Blue Badge holders aren't restricted to their home town. You have to allow for other visitors, too. For example, I bet London receives more Blue Badge holding cars than the volume of Blue Badges it has issued. yes of course but that doesn't mean my logic was flawed does it. That's why they have traffic surveys. So they can say right we have 5 spaces and there always full let's add 5 more. Or we have 10 spaces but the most that's ever used is 2 maybe we can take some away. Because ordinary tragic users have a need that needs servicing as well" Your last sentence.... You're on about fab innit. | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something Yes you are missing something, but don't worry you are making up for it with false indignation. I don't have a problem with disabled spaces both my parents are blue badge holders. I merely questioned the ratio of disabled parking spaces to none disabled parking spaces. In my experience (and I've been a car driver for over 25 years so this is extensive) there are often very many more disabled spaces than seems to be required. Sorry when you said it amnoyed you. I assumed you meant it annoyed you. I must have missed the rhetorical question How many disabled spaces do you think there should be? As it happens I don't mind having to have a little walk if there is some where safe and secure to park my car. This is often not the case. I'm not a traffic management expert, but it seems to me that. The council must know how many parking spaces they have, and they must know how many blue badges they have so it's not rocket science is it. Plus they do tragic audits so they can see if they have done the sums right. What has the amount of blue badges got to do with anything? Your logic is massively flawed so while it's not rocket science it's probably best left to people with some knowledge Sorry I thought you needed a blue badge to be entitled to use a disabled space. These badges are issued by the local authority Who are also responsible for ensuring there are adequate disabled parking spaces. Can you explain to me where my logic is flawed" Well you seem to be assuming that blue badge holders don't travel further tgan there immediate locality | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something Yes you are missing something, but don't worry you are making up for it with false indignation. I don't have a problem with disabled spaces both my parents are blue badge holders. I merely questioned the ratio of disabled parking spaces to none disabled parking spaces. In my experience (and I've been a car driver for over 25 years so this is extensive) there are often very many more disabled spaces than seems to be required. Sorry when you said it amnoyed you. I assumed you meant it annoyed you. I must have missed the rhetorical question How many disabled spaces do you think there should be? As it happens I don't mind having to have a little walk if there is some where safe and secure to park my car. This is often not the case. I'm not a traffic management expert, but it seems to me that. The council must know how many parking spaces they have, and they must know how many blue badges they have so it's not rocket science is it. Plus they do tragic audits so they can see if they have done the sums right. What has the amount of blue badges got to do with anything? Your logic is massively flawed so while it's not rocket science it's probably best left to people with some knowledge Sorry I thought you needed a blue badge to be entitled to use a disabled space. These badges are issued by the local authority Who are also responsible for ensuring there are adequate disabled parking spaces. Can you explain to me where my logic is flawed Well you seem to be assuming that blue badge holders don't travel further tgan there immediate locality" I haven't assumed anything, I have taken two known facts and used them to come up with a method of calculating a requirement. What your talking about is an unknown variable which I have no way of predicting without observational data, which the local authority has access to in the shape of traffic surveys. So no assumptions made and a logical method used to reach a conclusion. | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something Yes you are missing something, but don't worry you are making up for it with false indignation. I don't have a problem with disabled spaces both my parents are blue badge holders. I merely questioned the ratio of disabled parking spaces to none disabled parking spaces. In my experience (and I've been a car driver for over 25 years so this is extensive) there are often very many more disabled spaces than seems to be required. Sorry when you said it amnoyed you. I assumed you meant it annoyed you. I must have missed the rhetorical question How many disabled spaces do you think there should be? As it happens I don't mind having to have a little walk if there is some where safe and secure to park my car. This is often not the case. I'm not a traffic management expert, but it seems to me that. The council must know how many parking spaces they have, and they must know how many blue badges they have so it's not rocket science is it. Plus they do tragic audits so they can see if they have done the sums right. What has the amount of blue badges got to do with anything? Your logic is massively flawed so while it's not rocket science it's probably best left to people with some knowledge Sorry I thought you needed a blue badge to be entitled to use a disabled space. These badges are issued by the local authority Who are also responsible for ensuring there are adequate disabled parking spaces. Can you explain to me where my logic is flawed Well you seem to be assuming that blue badge holders don't travel further tgan there immediate locality I haven't assumed anything, I have taken two known facts and used them to come up with a method of calculating a requirement. What your talking about is an unknown variable which I have no way of predicting without observational data, which the local authority has access to in the shape of traffic surveys. So no assumptions made and a logical method used to reach a conclusion. " There is no logic there and as you've already said you aren't an expert | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something Yes you are missing something, but don't worry you are making up for it with false indignation. I don't have a problem with disabled spaces both my parents are blue badge holders. I merely questioned the ratio of disabled parking spaces to none disabled parking spaces. In my experience (and I've been a car driver for over 25 years so this is extensive) there are often very many more disabled spaces than seems to be required. Sorry when you said it amnoyed you. I assumed you meant it annoyed you. I must have missed the rhetorical question How many disabled spaces do you think there should be? As it happens I don't mind having to have a little walk if there is some where safe and secure to park my car. This is often not the case. I'm not a traffic management expert, but it seems to me that. The council must know how many parking spaces they have, and they must know how many blue badges they have so it's not rocket science is it. Plus they do tragic audits so they can see if they have done the sums right. What has the amount of blue badges got to do with anything? Your logic is massively flawed so while it's not rocket science it's probably best left to people with some knowledge Sorry I thought you needed a blue badge to be entitled to use a disabled space. These badges are issued by the local authority Who are also responsible for ensuring there are adequate disabled parking spaces. Can you explain to me where my logic is flawed Well you seem to be assuming that blue badge holders don't travel further tgan there immediate locality I haven't assumed anything, I have taken two known facts and used them to come up with a method of calculating a requirement. What your talking about is an unknown variable which I have no way of predicting without observational data, which the local authority has access to in the shape of traffic surveys. So no assumptions made and a logical method used to reach a conclusion. " You don't get out much do you? | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something Yes you are missing something, but don't worry you are making up for it with false indignation. I don't have a problem with disabled spaces both my parents are blue badge holders. I merely questioned the ratio of disabled parking spaces to none disabled parking spaces. In my experience (and I've been a car driver for over 25 years so this is extensive) there are often very many more disabled spaces than seems to be required. Sorry when you said it amnoyed you. I assumed you meant it annoyed you. I must have missed the rhetorical question How many disabled spaces do you think there should be? As it happens I don't mind having to have a little walk if there is some where safe and secure to park my car. This is often not the case. I'm not a traffic management expert, but it seems to me that. The council must know how many parking spaces they have, and they must know how many blue badges they have so it's not rocket science is it. Plus they do tragic audits so they can see if they have done the sums right. What has the amount of blue badges got to do with anything? Your logic is massively flawed so while it's not rocket science it's probably best left to people with some knowledge Sorry I thought you needed a blue badge to be entitled to use a disabled space. These badges are issued by the local authority Who are also responsible for ensuring there are adequate disabled parking spaces. Can you explain to me where my logic is flawed Well you seem to be assuming that blue badge holders don't travel further tgan there immediate locality I haven't assumed anything, I have taken two known facts and used them to come up with a method of calculating a requirement. What your talking about is an unknown variable which I have no way of predicting without observational data, which the local authority has access to in the shape of traffic surveys. So no assumptions made and a logical method used to reach a conclusion. There is no logic there and as you've already said you aren't an expert " You do actually know what logic is don't you | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. That's a pretty selfish point of _iew How is it selfish, I don't park in them So how is begrudging a disabled person something that mskea their life easier because it inconveniences you not selfish? It seems to be a pretty self centred _iewpoint. Or am I missing something Yes you are missing something, but don't worry you are making up for it with false indignation. I don't have a problem with disabled spaces both my parents are blue badge holders. I merely questioned the ratio of disabled parking spaces to none disabled parking spaces. In my experience (and I've been a car driver for over 25 years so this is extensive) there are often very many more disabled spaces than seems to be required. Sorry when you said it amnoyed you. I assumed you meant it annoyed you. I must have missed the rhetorical question How many disabled spaces do you think there should be? As it happens I don't mind having to have a little walk if there is some where safe and secure to park my car. This is often not the case. I'm not a traffic management expert, but it seems to me that. The council must know how many parking spaces they have, and they must know how many blue badges they have so it's not rocket science is it. Plus they do tragic audits so they can see if they have done the sums right. What has the amount of blue badges got to do with anything? Your logic is massively flawed so while it's not rocket science it's probably best left to people with some knowledge Sorry I thought you needed a blue badge to be entitled to use a disabled space. These badges are issued by the local authority Who are also responsible for ensuring there are adequate disabled parking spaces. Can you explain to me where my logic is flawed Well you seem to be assuming that blue badge holders don't travel further tgan there immediate locality I haven't assumed anything, I have taken two known facts and used them to come up with a method of calculating a requirement. What your talking about is an unknown variable which I have no way of predicting without observational data, which the local authority has access to in the shape of traffic surveys. So no assumptions made and a logical method used to reach a conclusion. You don't get out much do you?" On day release | |||
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"And what about the people who have blue badges that are not entitled to them " Unfortantly there is always some arsehole who abuses the system. That does NOT mean that those entitled should be penalised..... | |||
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"I don't begrudge blue badge holders their spaces, just the amount of allocated spaces does seem excessive so whatever data they are basing it on is flawed. I think the family parking bays are a good idea as anyone who has young kids will know. There should be more of them and less disabled spaces to greater reflect the needs of society. Also don't forget blue badge holders can park mostly anywhere so long as they display it. Unlike a family" Personally I don't get why we have parent and child spaces, particularly when they are right at the front......if we must have them, why not put them at the back of the car park? After all, for those that need them most, the baby will be in a car seat or pram. People have children by choice. Whereas, disability is thrust upon people at random, with no say in the matter | |||
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"Why the hell are disabled people even allowed to drive?? I'm sorry but if you can't walk properly how are you going to avoid a collision in an emergency situation? Get on the bus. Or sell your car and use taxi. Also plenty of volunteers to drive disabled/aged people. Get off the road! " Oooooh i'm assuming your post was meant to cause a reaction and you don't actually mean what you said. Between you and Clyde i'm losing faith in humanity! | |||
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"I often feel that this whole disability issue is in a similar place as the race and immigration issue was. No seems to be aloud to question anything about disabled parking spaces without being accused of being selfish. In my experience I often found the car park full but a whole bank of disabled spaces completely empty. I relies that this might be a persecution thing as one of the posters has said they have observed the opposite. But surely this should be looked into properly." one would assume it is 'looked into properly' by people qualified to do so who advise whomever.. maybe the fact that for disabled people the access on public transport and into public buildings still falls below what is acceptable should also be 'looked into properly'..? | |||
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"Has anyone else been reading about the driver in Brum whose car was threatened with being towed away after parking in a disabled bay? He's spent the last 7 hours sat in his car preventing it being towed away. His argument is that whilst he is not disputing the £70 fine, he believes that a private corporation towing his car away and then charging a large amount for its release and keep isn't on. He believes it to be legal robbery. The stand off continues. I wonder if his family will bring him his presents. " . At least if a car is towed away , it might make him act in a more responsible manner in future . Those who park in disabled bays deserve to be. towed away. Probably the type of person who does what he can get away with and no consideration for other people.. | |||
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"And spending the last 7 hours preventing a handicap person from using the space. His car should be towed away!" Agreed selfish fucker rules are there for a reason and if the signage is there then so be it. | |||
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"I often feel that this whole disability issue is in a similar place as the race and immigration issue was. No seems to be aloud to question anything about disabled parking spaces without being accused of being selfish. In my experience I often found the car park full but a whole bank of disabled spaces completely empty. I relies that this might be a persecution thing as one of the posters has said they have observed the opposite. But surely this should be looked into properly. one would assume it is 'looked into properly' by people qualified to do so who advise whomever.. maybe the fact that for disabled people the access on public transport and into public buildings still falls below what is acceptable should also be 'looked into properly'..?" It should indeed. A related but different issue. | |||
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"I often feel that this whole disability issue is in a similar place as the race and immigration issue was. No seems to be aloud to question anything about disabled parking spaces without being accused of being selfish. In my experience I often found the car park full but a whole bank of disabled spaces completely empty. I relies that this might be a persecution thing as one of the posters has said they have observed the opposite. But surely this should be looked into properly." | |||
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"Wheelchairs must be easier and more fun than walking right? " . I don't think it is appropriate to make jokes about wheelchairs or have I missed the logic of this comment. | |||
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"Why don't they put disabled spaces at the far end of the car park. Then people wouldn't be tempted to park in them " . I assume that you have never had to assist those with restricted mobility. It is usually necessary to park as near the door as possible if people have difficulty walking . | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. " not half as annoying when all the disabled spaces are taken by non-disabled people which drives me NUTS! They want the space, do they want my disability as well? | |||
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"Why don't they put disabled spaces at the far end of the car park. Then people wouldn't be tempted to park in them . I assume that you have never had to assist those with restricted mobility. It is usually necessary to park as near the door as possible if people have difficulty walking . " Absolutely. What a ridiculous comment above - naturally the spaces need to be close to where you're going. THAT'S THE POINT! | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. not half as annoying when all the disabled spaces are taken by non-disabled people which drives me NUTS! They want the space, do they want my disability as well? " | |||
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"Wheelchairs must be easier and more fun than walking right? . I don't think it is appropriate to make jokes about wheelchairs or have I missed the logic of this comment." Funny you should say that, I'm about to go permanently off my legs and "end up in a wheelchair" and I'm looking forward to it because it will give me more opportunities and be better than wearing ill-fitting and uncomfortable calipers and boots which I've done for nearly 60 years. Merry Xmas | |||
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"Wheelchairs must be easier and more fun than walking right? . I don't think it is appropriate to make jokes about wheelchairs or have I missed the logic of this comment." I think the guy was actually being sarcastic | |||
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"Has anyone else been reading about the driver in Brum whose car was threatened with being towed away after parking in a disabled bay? He's spent the last 7 hours sat in his car preventing it being towed away. His argument is that whilst he is not disputing the £70 fine, he believes that a private corporation towing his car away and then charging a large amount for its release and keep isn't on. He believes it to be legal robbery. The stand off continues. I wonder if his family will bring him his presents. . At least if a car is towed away , it might make him act in a more responsible manner in future . Those who park in disabled bays deserve to be. towed away. Probably the type of person who does what he can get away with and no consideration for other people.." No. He deserves what the law says. Generally there is a fine for an offence, such as parking illegally. In addition to this, if the vehicle is causing an obstruction it can be towed away. If the driver is actually at the seen then there is no requirement to tow the vehicle as the quickest way to remove the obstruction is to allow the driver to drive it away. This may be on private ground but the fairest way to deal with it is in a similar way to any normal parking offence on a public road. | |||
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"Has anyone else been reading about the driver in Brum whose car was threatened with being towed away after parking in a disabled bay? He's spent the last 7 hours sat in his car preventing it being towed away. His argument is that whilst he is not disputing the £70 fine, he believes that a private corporation towing his car away and then charging a large amount for its release and keep isn't on. He believes it to be legal robbery. The stand off continues. I wonder if his family will bring him his presents. . At least if a car is towed away , it might make him act in a more responsible manner in future . Those who park in disabled bays deserve to be. towed away. Probably the type of person who does what he can get away with and no consideration for other people.." It might. Putting him up against a wall and shooting him would definitely stop him doing it again but it would not be proportionate either. Towing away is only proportionate if it is the quickest way of removing the obstruction, not as the punishment. If you think it should be the punishment then that requires changes in the law. It is your right to campaign for those changes and, if enough people agree with you, the law might be changed. But it's not what the law currently says should be the punishment. The fine is the punishment | |||
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"Anyone else notice the truck was parked on a yellow line and also blocking about 4 disabled parking bays by narrowing the street.... how come nobody ticketed the truck " Now the dust is settling I am going to ask again.... the truck caused much more obstruction than the original car, but got away with it... | |||
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"Anyone else notice the truck was parked on a yellow line and also blocking about 4 disabled parking bays by narrowing the street.... how come nobody ticketed the truck Now the dust is settling I am going to ask again.... the truck caused much more obstruction than the original car, but got away with it..." Aw, the authorities. Don't you just love the different rules for them and for us. | |||
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"Anyone else notice the truck was parked on a yellow line and also blocking about 4 disabled parking bays by narrowing the street.... how come nobody ticketed the truck Now the dust is settling I am going to ask again.... the truck caused much more obstruction than the original car, but got away with it..." Which is why, once the driver of the vehicle had arrived, they should have let him dive the vehicle away and punished him with the fine. | |||
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"I completely agree with this guy, he's agreed he was in the wrong and will pay the fine, the towing company could have left it at that but of course it's all about making money. I'm glad he won the stand off, he was right when he said the company can't take his car if his standing there and agreed to pay the fine, and as for the police,,,, puleeze they should be having a word with the towing company,,, jobs worths!!!! " Completely agree with you. Also love your profile and pics to. he he | |||
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"Why the hell are disabled people even allowed to drive?? I'm sorry but if you can't walk properly how are you going to avoid a collision in an emergency situation? Get on the bus. Or sell your car and use taxi. Also plenty of volunteers to drive disabled/aged people. Get off the road! " my mum has a disabled badge she cant walk too far so needs to be closer to shops etc why should she give up her independence and mobility when she is a good driver | |||
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"I completely agree with this guy, he's agreed he was in the wrong and will pay the fine, the towing company could have left it at that but of course it's all about making money. I'm glad he won the stand off, he was right when he said the company can't take his car if his standing there and agreed to pay the fine, and as for the police,,,, puleeze they should be having a word with the towing company,,, jobs worths!!!! " Apparently when they tow your car once the wheels leave the ground they can't put it back down. | |||
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"Maybe if he is obese he could claim to be lawfully parking there. " | |||
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"Maybe if he is obese he could claim to be lawfully parking there. " Not without a blue badge, picked up a friend from hospital with broken leg in scaffolding. was unable to park close to the place without paying the parking fine. | |||
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"I completely agree with this guy, he's agreed he was in the wrong and will pay the fine, the towing company could have left it at that but of course it's all about making money. I'm glad he won the stand off, he was right when he said the company can't take his car if his standing there and agreed to pay the fine, and as for the police,,,, puleeze they should be having a word with the towing company,,, jobs worths!!!! Apparently when they tow your car once the wheels leave the ground they can't put it back down. " That's what they will tell you but the reality is that of course they can. They just want your money. | |||
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"Anyone else notice the truck was parked on a yellow line and also blocking about 4 disabled parking bays by narrowing the street.... how come nobody ticketed the truck Now the dust is settling I am going to ask again.... the truck caused much more obstruction than the original car, but got away with it... Which is why, once the driver of the vehicle had arrived, they should have let him dive the vehicle away and punished him with the fine." . The towing truck was only there because someone had parked illegally . Its purpose was to carry out a job that had been assigned to it . Where else would you expect it to park in order to complete this task? | |||
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"I completely agree with this guy, he's agreed he was in the wrong and will pay the fine, the towing company could have left it at that but of course it's all about making money. I'm glad he won the stand off, he was right when he said the company can't take his car if his standing there and agreed to pay the fine, and as for the police,,,, puleeze they should be having a word with the towing company,,, jobs worths!!!! Apparently when they tow your car once the wheels leave the ground they can't put it back down. That's what they will tell you but the reality is that of course they can. They just want your money." . These towing vehicles are carrying out an important public service and ensuring that those motorists who obey the rules are not penalised because of those who ignore them. | |||
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"Anyone else notice the truck was parked on a yellow line and also blocking about 4 disabled parking bays by narrowing the street.... how come nobody ticketed the truck Now the dust is settling I am going to ask again.... the truck caused much more obstruction than the original car, but got away with it... Which is why, once the driver of the vehicle had arrived, they should have let him dive the vehicle away and punished him with the fine.. The towing truck was only there because someone had parked illegally . Its purpose was to carry out a job that had been assigned to it . Where else would you expect it to park in order to complete this task?" I would expect it to remove the obstruction as quickly as possible. If that is by allowing the driver to drive the vehicle away then that is what it should have done. | |||
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"I completely agree with this guy, he's agreed he was in the wrong and will pay the fine, the towing company could have left it at that but of course it's all about making money. I'm glad he won the stand off, he was right when he said the company can't take his car if his standing there and agreed to pay the fine, and as for the police,,,, puleeze they should be having a word with the towing company,,, jobs worths!!!! Apparently when they tow your car once the wheels leave the ground they can't put it back down. That's what they will tell you but the reality is that of course they can. They just want your money.. These towing vehicles are carrying out an important public service and ensuring that those motorists who obey the rules are not penalised because of those who ignore them. " No, they are only providing a public service if they are removing the obstruction as quickly as possible. If there action are actually causing the obstruction to go on longer than it would have if they had not intervened then they are no longer providing a public service but adding to the actual problem | |||
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"The towing truck was only there because someone had parked illegally . Its purpose was to carry out a job that had been assigned to it . Where else would you expect it to park in order to complete this task?" There is no real justification for the guy blocking one space in a disabled parking area, but neither is there any justification for the towing company blocking several spaces for the rest of the day. Bottom line is it was a stupid situation that should have been resolved quickly, but as it wasn't it would have been much funnier if the truck had been given a parking ticket. | |||
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"The towing truck was only there because someone had parked illegally . Its purpose was to carry out a job that had been assigned to it . Where else would you expect it to park in order to complete this task? There is no real justification for the guy blocking one space in a disabled parking area, but neither is there any justification for the towing company blocking several spaces for the rest of the day. Bottom line is it was a stupid situation that should have been resolved quickly, but as it wasn't it would have been much funnier if the truck had been given a parking ticket. " That's about the way I see it to. | |||
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"How do they decide how many disabled spaces are allocated per car park. It's really annoying when there is no where to park and there is half a dozen empty disabled spaces. " It's also annoying when non blue badge holders park in disabled bay and then I have to straddle two normal bays to open my doors wide to get out of my car and then get my wheelchair out. I can't always walk and really rely on the disabled bays which I am fully entitled to with my blue badge. Too many lazy fuckers. | |||
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"Why the hell are disabled people even allowed to drive?? I'm sorry but if you can't walk properly how are you going to avoid a collision in an emergency situation? Get on the bus. Or sell your car and use taxi. Also plenty of volunteers to drive disabled/aged people. Get off the road! " I rely on my car to get to my numerous hospital appointments and for shopping. I can't use public transport. Can never get on a bus with a wheelchair, due to numerous pushchairs, also how do I carry shopping home from the supermarket? I can no longer afford a carer. I rely on my 15 year old son. Also, my local train station has no lifts, how do I get to a platform down a huge flight of stairs??? I can drive perfectly well and within the DVLA rules with my health conditions. I could say why don't able bodied people use public transport, but I'm not so narrow minded as you. I didn't choose to be disabled,I fucking hate it. It's heartbreaking not being able to stroll around a shop or supermarket, not everywhere is wheelchair friendly and I can't see most of the stuff being sat down. Try being in my wheels for one day. | |||
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"Why the hell are disabled people even allowed to drive?? I'm sorry but if you can't walk properly how are you going to avoid a collision in an emergency situation? Get on the bus. Or sell your car and use taxi. Also plenty of volunteers to drive disabled/aged people. Get off the road! I rely on my car to get to my numerous hospital appointments and for shopping. I can't use public transport. Can never get on a bus with a wheelchair, due to numerous pushchairs, also how do I carry shopping home from the supermarket? I can no longer afford a carer. I rely on my 15 year old son. Also, my local train station has no lifts, how do I get to a platform down a huge flight of stairs??? I can drive perfectly well and within the DVLA rules with my health conditions. I could say why don't able bodied people use public transport, but I'm not so narrow minded as you. I didn't choose to be disabled,I fucking hate it. It's heartbreaking not being able to stroll around a shop or supermarket, not everywhere is wheelchair friendly and I can't see most of the stuff being sat down. Try being in my wheels for one day. " I good point well made. I hope in any comments I have made further up the thread I have not given the impression that I don't think Disabled paring spaces should exist because I do. And they should be used by people who need them, which you clearly are. However that's not always what is happening. Some people let others use their blue badges when they are doing shopping trips for them but with out the badge holder being present. And some people who actually hold blue badges are not always so disabled that they really require them. These points need to be addressed to. | |||
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"Why the hell are disabled people even allowed to drive?? I'm sorry but if you can't walk properly how are you going to avoid a collision in an emergency situation? Get on the bus. Or sell your car and use taxi. Also plenty of volunteers to drive disabled/aged people. Get off the road! I rely on my car to get to my numerous hospital appointments and for shopping. I can't use public transport. Can never get on a bus with a wheelchair, due to numerous pushchairs, also how do I carry shopping home from the supermarket? I can no longer afford a carer. I rely on my 15 year old son. Also, my local train station has no lifts, how do I get to a platform down a huge flight of stairs??? I can drive perfectly well and within the DVLA rules with my health conditions. I could say why don't able bodied people use public transport, but I'm not so narrow minded as you. I didn't choose to be disabled,I fucking hate it. It's heartbreaking not being able to stroll around a shop or supermarket, not everywhere is wheelchair friendly and I can't see most of the stuff being sat down. Try being in my wheels for one day. I good point well made. I hope in any comments I have made further up the thread I have not given the impression that I don't think Disabled paring spaces should exist because I do. And they should be used by people who need them, which you clearly are. However that's not always what is happening. Some people let others use their blue badges when they are doing shopping trips for them but with out the badge holder being present. And some people who actually hold blue badges are not always so disabled that they really require them. These points need to be addressed to." If I'm having a good day, I don't look ill, my illnesses are invisible, so sometimes I can walk into a shop, with just the aid of a stick. Should I not use a disabled bay on this day? You can guarantee though, that by the time I've nipped in the shop, I can barely walk out of it. Many a time I've ended up with help, because I felt ok to walk, when 5 minuets later I fall. I did this on my last trip to Xtasia, went flying outside the club, because my legs gave way. I'd only walked a few yards, but didn't want to use my stick, for fear of embarrassment | |||
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