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"So the scaffolders came at about 9 to remove the scaffolding. They have removed the wooden boards and have retreated to their truck... They have been in there 2 hours!!! They are being paid by the housing authority, but still, it's starting to annoy me now "Ah well, as long as you aren't footing the bill. It's probably been a quote for the entire job and the scaffolding crew will probably have been given a specific amount of time to do the job, and are being paid on that basis. They can probably do it much quicker than the time allocated, so a nice long breakfast, then they'll prob have it down in time to go for a pint | |||
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"So the scaffolders came at about 9 to remove the scaffolding. They have removed the wooden boards and have retreated to their truck... They have been in there 2 hours!!! They are being paid by the housing authority, but still, it's starting to annoy me now
Grass them up after all it's christmas "It's not in the Christmas spirit to do a bad job because it's Christmas. | |||
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"Actually, such behaviour costs ordinary people. By taking money for doing sod all they contribute to the costs to the local authority which we all pay for via council tax and social housing rental. I'd be out asking when they would be likely to complete the job. If really concerned they were taking the piss I'd be on the phone to the council/company employing them. " So pleased the season of good will has not passed some people by! Tell you what lets go all the way get the lazy gits out the van and place them in stocks and we can all throw rotten veg at them after all they still got at least 4or 5 hours where they should be working. | |||
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"Actually, such behaviour costs ordinary people. By taking money for doing sod all they contribute to the costs to the local authority which we all pay for via council tax and social housing rental. I'd be out asking when they would be likely to complete the job. If really concerned they were taking the piss I'd be on the phone to the council/company employing them. So pleased the season of good will has not passed some people by! Tell you what lets go all the way get the lazy gits out the van and place them in stocks and we can all throw rotten veg at them after all they still got at least 4or 5 hours where they should be working. " That's the point, supposed to be working not sat in the van brewing up for 2 hours. If they got the job finished, they go home early and happy days. | |||
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"Actually, such behaviour costs ordinary people. By taking money for doing sod all they contribute to the costs to the local authority which we all pay for via council tax and social housing rental. I'd be out asking when they would be likely to complete the job. If really concerned they were taking the piss I'd be on the phone to the council/company employing them. So pleased the season of good will has not passed some people by! Tell you what lets go all the way get the lazy gits out the van and place them in stocks and we can all throw rotten veg at them after all they still got at least 4or 5 hours where they should be working. " Yes let's go for it !!! Have that rotten cabbage and merry fecking Christmas | |||
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"So the scaffolders came at about 9 to remove the scaffolding. They have removed the wooden boards and have retreated to their truck... They have been in there 2 hours!!! They are being paid by the housing authority, but still, it's starting to annoy me now
Grass them up after all it's christmas
It's not in the Christmas spirit to do a bad job because it's Christmas. "No one said they were doing a bad job only they are having an extended break. So i assume from your 2 posts you work from the time u set foot in work to the time u leave, u dont stop for a natter while doing work or take a few minutes here and there? | |||
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"The reason I was annoyed at them, is because once they have gone, I can take of the clear plastic sheeting on my windows and give them a right good cleaning. That 2 hour delay means I have less to do that, then grab a shit, shave and shower and then grab something to eat... all before 4pm. I'm meeting a friend in the pub at 5." Ah i see so even though the sheeting has been there for a while its a matter of life and death for you to remove today, couldnt possibly wait until tomorrow morning when they will be long gone and youve had your night out, your not going to try and cram a months xmas shopping in today as well so you can get really stressed are you? | |||
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"So the scaffolders came at about 9 to remove the scaffolding. They have removed the wooden boards and have retreated to their truck... They have been in there 2 hours!!! They are being paid by the housing authority, but still, it's starting to annoy me now
Grass them up after all it's christmas
It's not in the Christmas spirit to do a bad job because it's Christmas.
No one said they were doing a bad job only they are having an extended break.
So i assume from your 2 posts you work from the time u set foot in work to the time u leave, u dont stop for a natter while doing work or take a few minutes here and there?"Yes I can actually say that. I eat both breakfast and dinner at my desk. And no that is not an exaggeration. I also work again once I get home. However, that is utterly irrelevant. 2 hours is not an extended break. It is taking the piss. | |||
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"It may be they are waiting for someone qualified to take the poles down. Health and safety is paramount in the building trade " As scaffolders, surely they are qualified? | |||
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"So the scaffolders came at about 9 to remove the scaffolding. They have removed the wooden boards and have retreated to their truck... They have been in there 2 hours!!! They are being paid by the housing authority, but still, it's starting to annoy me now
Grass them up after all it's christmas
It's not in the Christmas spirit to do a bad job because it's Christmas.
No one said they were doing a bad job only they are having an extended break.
So i assume from your 2 posts you work from the time u set foot in work to the time u leave, u dont stop for a natter while doing work or take a few minutes here and there?
Yes I can actually say that. I eat both breakfast and dinner at my desk. And no that is not an exaggeration.
I also work again once I get home.
However, that is utterly irrelevant. 2 hours is not an extended break. It is taking the piss. "Oh i agree lets get the japanese to oversee them they had the correct attitude on the building of the Burma railway, make the bastards work till they drop and then we can get replacements in after all its not xmas day for some time and while were at it lets get the kids back into the work houses why allow them to get away scot free theres still chimneys to be swept lets open up them mills again merry xmas | |||
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"So the scaffolders came at about 9 to remove the scaffolding. They have removed the wooden boards and have retreated to their truck... They have been in there 2 hours!!! They are being paid by the housing authority, but still, it's starting to annoy me now
Grass them up after all it's christmas
It's not in the Christmas spirit to do a bad job because it's Christmas.
No one said they were doing a bad job only they are having an extended break.
So i assume from your 2 posts you work from the time u set foot in work to the time u leave, u dont stop for a natter while doing work or take a few minutes here and there?
Yes I can actually say that. I eat both breakfast and dinner at my desk. And no that is not an exaggeration.
I also work again once I get home.
However, that is utterly irrelevant. 2 hours is not an extended break. It is taking the piss.
Oh i agree lets get the japanese to oversee them they had the correct attitude on the building of the Burma railway, make the bastards work till they drop and then we can get replacements in after all its not xmas day for some time and while were at it lets get the kids back into the work houses why allow them to get away scot free theres still chimneys to be swept lets open up them mills again merry xmas "Hang on, I see what's going on here...... Are you a scaffolder on a job in Halifax by any chance | |||
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"So the scaffolders came at about 9 to remove the scaffolding. They have removed the wooden boards and have retreated to their truck... They have been in there 2 hours!!! They are being paid by the housing authority, but still, it's starting to annoy me now
Grass them up after all it's christmas
It's not in the Christmas spirit to do a bad job because it's Christmas.
No one said they were doing a bad job only they are having an extended break.
So i assume from your 2 posts you work from the time u set foot in work to the time u leave, u dont stop for a natter while doing work or take a few minutes here and there?
Yes I can actually say that. I eat both breakfast and dinner at my desk. And no that is not an exaggeration.
I also work again once I get home.
However, that is utterly irrelevant. 2 hours is not an extended break. It is taking the piss.
Oh i agree lets get the japanese to oversee them they had the correct attitude on the building of the Burma railway, make the bastards work till they drop and then we can get replacements in after all its not xmas day for some time and while were at it lets get the kids back into the work houses why allow them to get away scot free theres still chimneys to be swept lets open up them mills again merry xmas
Hang on, I see what's going on here......
Are you a scaffolder on a job in Halifax by any chance "Damn you saw through me and theres some guy peering through polythene covered windows making rude gestures as if he wants to be in the pub by 5 lol | |||
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"So the scaffolders came at about 9 to remove the scaffolding. They have removed the wooden boards and have retreated to their truck... They have been in there 2 hours!!! They are being paid by the housing authority, but still, it's starting to annoy me now
Grass them up after all it's christmas
It's not in the Christmas spirit to do a bad job because it's Christmas.
No one said they were doing a bad job only they are having an extended break.
So i assume from your 2 posts you work from the time u set foot in work to the time u leave, u dont stop for a natter while doing work or take a few minutes here and there?
Yes I can actually say that. I eat both breakfast and dinner at my desk. And no that is not an exaggeration.
I also work again once I get home.
However, that is utterly irrelevant. 2 hours is not an extended break. It is taking the piss.
Oh i agree lets get the japanese to oversee them they had the correct attitude on the building of the Burma railway, make the bastards work till they drop and then we can get replacements in after all its not xmas day for some time and while were at it lets get the kids back into the work houses why allow them to get away scot free theres still chimneys to be swept lets open up them mills again merry xmas "Rather exaggerated argument really. They are there to do a job. Their time is being paid for and they've sat on their arse for two hours. That makes a mockery of the Christmas spirit and is clearly inconveniencing the op. Ps those on the Burma railway were POWs being used as slave labour. My uncle was one of them. So really not relevant to this issue. Chimney sweeps were often abused children. Again they cannot be a relevant comparison. These are grown men being paid to do a job who are skiving. | |||
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"It may be they are waiting for someone qualified to take the poles down. Health and safety is paramount in the building trade As scaffolders, surely they are qualified?" One might be the driver,one the labourer. The one with the bolting together and handling poles safely might be on another job. | |||
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"So the scaffolders came at about 9 to remove the scaffolding. They have removed the wooden boards and have retreated to their truck... They have been in there 2 hours!!! They are being paid by the housing authority, but still, it's starting to annoy me now "U can always change jobs | |||
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"So the scaffolders came at about 9 to remove the scaffolding. They have removed the wooden boards and have retreated to their truck... They have been in there 2 hours!!! They are being paid by the housing authority, but still, it's starting to annoy me now
Grass them up after all it's christmas
It's not in the Christmas spirit to do a bad job because it's Christmas.
No one said they were doing a bad job only they are having an extended break.
So i assume from your 2 posts you work from the time u set foot in work to the time u leave, u dont stop for a natter while doing work or take a few minutes here and there?
Yes I can actually say that. I eat both breakfast and dinner at my desk. And no that is not an exaggeration.
I also work again once I get home.
However, that is utterly irrelevant. 2 hours is not an extended break. It is taking the piss.
Oh i agree lets get the japanese to oversee them they had the correct attitude on the building of the Burma railway, make the bastards work till they drop and then we can get replacements in after all its not xmas day for some time and while were at it lets get the kids back into the work houses why allow them to get away scot free theres still chimneys to be swept lets open up them mills again merry xmas
Rather exaggerated argument really. They are there to do a job. Their time is being paid for and they've sat on their arse for two hours. That makes a mockery of the Christmas spirit and is clearly inconveniencing the op.
Ps those on the Burma railway were POWs being used as slave labour. My uncle was one of them. So really not relevant to this issue.
Chimney sweeps were often abused children. Again they cannot be a relevant comparison.
These are grown men being paid to do a job who are skiving. "Now are you sure your uncle was a POW and not a guard as you appear to have the same ethos? Just check your birth certificate again to ensure your surnames not yamamoto lol | |||
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"So the scaffolders came at about 9 to remove the scaffolding. They have removed the wooden boards and have retreated to their truck... They have been in there 2 hours!!! They are being paid by the housing authority, but still, it's starting to annoy me now
U can always change jobs "As I understand it they are meant to be doing the job at his house. | |||
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"So the scaffolders came at about 9 to remove the scaffolding. They have removed the wooden boards and have retreated to their truck... They have been in there 2 hours!!! They are being paid by the housing authority, but still, it's starting to annoy me now
Grass them up after all it's christmas
It's not in the Christmas spirit to do a bad job because it's Christmas.
No one said they were doing a bad job only they are having an extended break.
So i assume from your 2 posts you work from the time u set foot in work to the time u leave, u dont stop for a natter while doing work or take a few minutes here and there?
Yes I can actually say that. I eat both breakfast and dinner at my desk. And no that is not an exaggeration.
I also work again once I get home.
However, that is utterly irrelevant. 2 hours is not an extended break. It is taking the piss.
Oh i agree lets get the japanese to oversee them they had the correct attitude on the building of the Burma railway, make the bastards work till they drop and then we can get replacements in after all its not xmas day for some time and while were at it lets get the kids back into the work houses why allow them to get away scot free theres still chimneys to be swept lets open up them mills again merry xmas
Rather exaggerated argument really. They are there to do a job. Their time is being paid for and they've sat on their arse for two hours. That makes a mockery of the Christmas spirit and is clearly inconveniencing the op.
Ps those on the Burma railway were POWs being used as slave labour. My uncle was one of them. So really not relevant to this issue.
Chimney sweeps were often abused children. Again they cannot be a relevant comparison.
These are grown men being paid to do a job who are skiving.
Now are you sure your uncle was a POW and not a guard as you appear to have the same ethos? Just check your birth certificate again to ensure your surnames not yamamoto lol"Thank you for that. Merry Christmas to you. | |||
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"There getting a set amount of money to do a job how long it takes them unless it's stipulated by contract is up to them!. There could be loads of reasons there sat in the van. There next job could be in 4 hours time. They might not have the correct equipment to dismantle. They might not have the right amount of harnesses or someone with a ticket (not all the scaffolders will have a ticket). When it's all said and done they won't be getting paid to sit in there anyhow and as a last resort have you considered........ Knocking on the van window and having a polite conversation about time and telling them your plans to clean windows. After all their scaffolders not mind readers "Which is why my first suggestion was to go out and talk to them. But if they have no good reason I would be making a complaint. Having had workmen cost me a lot of money in the past I have little patience with skiving. | |||
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"There getting a set amount of money to do a job how long it takes them unless it's stipulated by contract is up to them!. There could be loads of reasons there sat in the van. There next job could be in 4 hours time. They might not have the correct equipment to dismantle. They might not have the right amount of harnesses or someone with a ticket (not all the scaffolders will have a ticket). When it's all said and done they won't be getting paid to sit in there anyhow and as a last resort have you considered........ Knocking on the van window and having a polite conversation about time and telling them your plans to clean windows. After all their scaffolders not mind readers
Which is why my first suggestion was to go out and talk to them.
But if they have no good reason I would be making a complaint. Having had workmen cost me a lot of money in the past I have little patience with skiving. ". I've got a funny feeling there'll have a good reason as no one in their right mind would want to sit in a van for two hours getting bored when they could be somewhere else. Skiving is when your getting out of doing a job, they are going to take it down some time or another and knowing a feel scaffolders like I do I'd bet you a tenner there'd rather be taking it down and be in the pub for 3 than waiting around then taking it down and not going to the pub till 5 | |||
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"There getting a set amount of money to do a job how long it takes them unless it's stipulated by contract is up to them!. There could be loads of reasons there sat in the van. There next job could be in 4 hours time. They might not have the correct equipment to dismantle. They might not have the right amount of harnesses or someone with a ticket (not all the scaffolders will have a ticket). When it's all said and done they won't be getting paid to sit in there anyhow and as a last resort have you considered........ Knocking on the van window and having a polite conversation about time and telling them your plans to clean windows. After all their scaffolders not mind readers
Which is why my first suggestion was to go out and talk to them.
But if they have no good reason I would be making a complaint. Having had workmen cost me a lot of money in the past I have little patience with skiving. .
I've got a funny feeling there'll have a good reason as no one in their right mind would want to sit in a van for two hours getting bored when they could be somewhere else.
Skiving is when your getting out of doing a job, they are going to take it down some time or another and knowing a feel scaffolders like I do I'd bet you a tenner there'd rather be taking it down and be in the pub for 3 than waiting around then taking it down and not going to the pub till 5"I caught workmen skiving in my house instead of fitting my kitchen. In an entire day they fitted three plug sockets. They did, however, leave filthy marks all over my suite and cream rug in the lounge which they should never have been in. Another workman who was replacing a kitchen window in a council house I used to live in sat in his van reading the paper having left broken glass all over my kitchen (I had a toddler at the time). A quick call to the depot told me he should have cleaned up and been on another job as the woman in question had been waiting in for him. When workmen are paid by the day or charge by the day it can be in their financial interest to drag a job out. My plumber charges a fair whack daily but I always ask him back as he doesn't take the mick, arrives early, works solidly and if he can only do half a day he only charges for half a day. | |||
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"Sorry folks just having a little fun i really couldnt give a toss either way whether they work or not or reported or not i was selfishly causing a little mischief, apologies to anyone iay of offended and seasons greetings to you all , skivers and workaholics alike x" You could get your bum slapped for that !!  | |||
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"There getting a set amount of money to do a job how long it takes them unless it's stipulated by contract is up to them!. There could be loads of reasons there sat in the van. There next job could be in 4 hours time. They might not have the correct equipment to dismantle. They might not have the right amount of harnesses or someone with a ticket (not all the scaffolders will have a ticket). When it's all said and done they won't be getting paid to sit in there anyhow and as a last resort have you considered........ Knocking on the van window and having a polite conversation about time and telling them your plans to clean windows. After all their scaffolders not mind readers
Which is why my first suggestion was to go out and talk to them.
But if they have no good reason I would be making a complaint. Having had workmen cost me a lot of money in the past I have little patience with skiving. .
I've got a funny feeling there'll have a good reason as no one in their right mind would want to sit in a van for two hours getting bored when they could be somewhere else.
Skiving is when your getting out of doing a job, they are going to take it down some time or another and knowing a feel scaffolders like I do I'd bet you a tenner there'd rather be taking it down and be in the pub for 3 than waiting around then taking it down and not going to the pub till 5
I caught workmen skiving in my house instead of fitting my kitchen. In an entire day they fitted three plug sockets. They did, however, leave filthy marks all over my suite and cream rug in the lounge which they should never have been in.
Another workman who was replacing a kitchen window in a council house I used to live in sat in his van reading the paper having left broken glass all over my kitchen (I had a toddler at the time). A quick call to the depot told me he should have cleaned up and been on another job as the woman in question had been waiting in for him.
When workmen are paid by the day or charge by the day it can be in their financial interest to drag a job out.
My plumber charges a fair whack daily but I always ask him back as he doesn't take the mick, arrives early, works solidly and if he can only do half a day he only charges for half a day. ". I've never employed anyone on a day rate and being a gas engineer I've never been employed on a day rate. I've priced for jobs that took longer to do than thought and not made any money on it and I've priced for jobs that took a lot less time and made decent money. Occasionally I've rebated the customer and occasionally they've given me a little more knowing it had gone over schedule. It's like any other industry there's good and there's bad and a whole load in between but usually a nice but firm attitude always out does a not so good attitude | |||
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"Sorry folks just having a little fun i really couldnt give a toss either way whether they work or not or reported or not i was selfishly causing a little mischief, apologies to anyone iay of offended and seasons greetings to you all , skivers and workaholics alike x You could get your bum slapped for that !! "Ok when can you book me in but no breaks mind or youll be accused of skiving.... Whoops there i go again | |||
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"Sorry folks just having a little fun i really couldnt give a toss either way whether they work or not or reported or not i was selfishly causing a little mischief, apologies to anyone iay of offended and seasons greetings to you all , skivers and workaholics alike x You could get your bum slapped for that !!
Ok when can you book me in but no breaks mind or youll be accused of skiving.... Whoops there i go again "Would I be on an hourly rate or job and finish | |||
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"Sorry folks just having a little fun i really couldnt give a toss either way whether they work or not or reported or not i was selfishly causing a little mischief, apologies to anyone iay of offended and seasons greetings to you all , skivers and workaholics alike x You could get your bum slapped for that !!
Ok when can you book me in but no breaks mind or youll be accused of skiving.... Whoops there i go again
Would I be on an hourly rate or job and finish "Oh definitely job and finish rate lol will be a long job though x | |||
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