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"We'd prefer that they put all the bareback photos on they have. It's the perfect filter to know who to meet and who but to. Control your own sexual health and leave others to theirs. " | |||
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"Why does there seem to be a recent influx of bareback photos being uploaded from single guys on this site. One local guy to me in peticular has several on his profile of him having sex with different people (both men and women) and it's all bareback. It's just wrong, when did bareback and risking spreading STD's become cool? Did I miss something? " If on an unverified, new profile there's a big chance they're 'borrowed' from the net in an attempt to look 'experienced'. It's amusing that people seems to have interchangeable cocks at times - black, white, cut, uncut...... A | |||
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"honesty is the way forward and if people are discouraged from that we won't have the information we need to make informed decisions about who we have sex with. I would much rather that people were encouraged to be open about a preference for bare back myself. Also don't forget that there are many, many forms of unsafe sex that people indulge in without a second thought." Unsafe but safer with a condom! | |||
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"honesty is the way forward and if people are discouraged from that we won't have the information we need to make informed decisions about who we have sex with. I would much rather that people were encouraged to be open about a preference for bare back myself. Also don't forget that there are many, many forms of unsafe sex that people indulge in without a second thought. Unsafe but safer with a condom! " Yep! But honesty is still the best way forward. | |||
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"This cannot be true? He has had bareback sex with "several" people, including men, and is still alive? " Lucky then eh, HIV doesn't kill you straight away, just makes you have to take drugs and keep seeing your doctor for the rest of your life. | |||
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"This cannot be true? He has had bareback sex with "several" people, including men, and is still alive? Lucky then eh, HIV doesn't kill you straight away, just makes you have to take drugs and keep seeing your doctor for the rest of your life." Why straight away was HIV assumed with men? Straight/bi/gay/a sexual HIV isn't a gay thing or a man thing, it's an African thing. | |||
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"Yes we all make informed choices, my point is why would you take the risk and seemingly be proud? I only ever play safe, wouldn't dream of playing without a condom, even when dating or if we're in relationship it's a date to the GUM clinic to get checked before even thinking about unsafe sex and still I've nipped down for further tests when in a relationship. " Glad you do as do plenty of others on here, better to be safe than sorry. | |||
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"honesty is the way forward and if people are discouraged from that we won't have the information we need to make informed decisions about who we have sex with. I would much rather that people were encouraged to be open about a preference for bare back myself. Also don't forget that there are many, many forms of unsafe sex that people indulge in without a second thought." This. Honesty is the key here. What people do is their own business and I'm not here to judge anyone, but I do like to be given the choice based on honest information. | |||
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"This cannot be true? He has had bareback sex with "several" people, including men, and is still alive? Lucky then eh, HIV doesn't kill you straight away, just makes you have to take drugs and keep seeing your doctor for the rest of your life." Well said!!!! | |||
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"Yes we all make informed choices, my point is why would you take the risk and seemingly be proud? I only ever play safe, wouldn't dream of playing without a condom, even when dating or if we're in relationship it's a date to the GUM clinic to get checked before even thinking about unsafe sex and still I've nipped down for further tests when in a relationship. " That is a question that many have asked but few can answer. I think a lot of people are badly misinformed about sti's, they have strange ideas about how they're passed on and believe some funny things like you can't get one from oral, you can't pass them from woman to woman, if a man ejaculates on your body you are 100% safe....that sort of thing. Some even think that if a person looks clean they are disease free. | |||
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"Yes we all make informed choices, my point is why would you take the risk and seemingly be proud? I only ever play safe, wouldn't dream of playing without a condom, even when dating or if we're in relationship it's a date to the GUM clinic to get checked before even thinking about unsafe sex and still I've nipped down for further tests when in a relationship. Glad you do as do plenty of others on here, better to be safe than sorry." Yes I'm sure the highest of the majority do, safe is the best kind of sex, just that minority are crazy for taking that chance. | |||
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"This cannot be true? He has had bareback sex with "several" people, including men, and is still alive? Lucky then eh, HIV doesn't kill you straight away, just makes you have to take drugs and keep seeing your doctor for the rest of your life. Why straight away was HIV assumed with men? Straight/bi/gay/a sexual HIV isn't a gay thing or a man thing, it's an African thing." Yes I know but they ask you if you have had sex with any bi men or foreigners when you go to the GUM clinic, and I think there must be a reason for that don't you? | |||
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"Yes we all make informed choices, my point is why would you take the risk and seemingly be proud? I only ever play safe, wouldn't dream of playing without a condom, even when dating or if we're in relationship it's a date to the GUM clinic to get checked before even thinking about unsafe sex and still I've nipped down for further tests when in a relationship. Glad you do as do plenty of others on here, better to be safe than sorry. Yes I'm sure the highest of the majority do, safe is the best kind of sex, just that minority are crazy for taking that chance." what is your definition of safe sex? | |||
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"Yes we all make informed choices, my point is why would you take the risk and seemingly be proud? I only ever play safe, wouldn't dream of playing without a condom, even when dating or if we're in relationship it's a date to the GUM clinic to get checked before even thinking about unsafe sex and still I've nipped down for further tests when in a relationship. That is a question that many have asked but few can answer. I think a lot of people are badly misinformed about sti's, they have strange ideas about how they're passed on and believe some funny things like you can't get one from oral, you can't pass them from woman to woman, if a man ejaculates on your body you are 100% safe....that sort of thing. Some even think that if a person looks clean they are disease free." | |||
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"honesty is the way forward and if people are discouraged from that we won't have the information we need to make informed decisions about who we have sex with. I would much rather that people were encouraged to be open about a preference for bare back myself. Also don't forget that there are many, many forms of unsafe sex that people indulge in without a second thought. This. Honesty is the key here. What people do is their own business and I'm not here to judge anyone, but I do like to be given the choice based on honest information. " Agreed there, everyone is free to do what they want to do, we all have choices that should be respected. I do prefer safe sex with others as does my partner and ultimately we are responsible for ourselves. Honesty is always the best policy but your not always going to get that on a site like this as the goal for many is to just get laid however they can. | |||
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"Yes we all make informed choices, my point is why would you take the risk and seemingly be proud? I only ever play safe, wouldn't dream of playing without a condom, even when dating or if we're in relationship it's a date to the GUM clinic to get checked before even thinking about unsafe sex and still I've nipped down for further tests when in a relationship. Glad you do as do plenty of others on here, better to be safe than sorry. Yes I'm sure the highest of the majority do, safe is the best kind of sex, just that minority are crazy for taking that chance. what is your definition of safe sex?" Never give them my phone number after Ha, sorry couldnt resist that. Well obviously wrapping up before penitration, and fore play in the safest possible way. | |||
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"This cannot be true? He has had bareback sex with "several" people, including men, and is still alive? Lucky then eh, HIV doesn't kill you straight away, just makes you have to take drugs and keep seeing your doctor for the rest of your life. Why straight away was HIV assumed with men? Straight/bi/gay/a sexual HIV isn't a gay thing or a man thing, it's an African thing." Wow!!! Only Africans need worry and those who shag them?!! I find these sanctimonious threads amusing. It's akin to Lewis Hamilton criticising Greg Hancock for racing fast because his car affords more protection than a bike! We are indulging in a high risk activity: protect yourself as best you can: assume every potential meet has just attended a bareback gangbang and act accordingly. Sheesh! | |||
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"We'd prefer that they put all the bareback photos on they have. It's the perfect filter to know who to meet and who but to. Control your own sexual health and leave others to theirs. " well said | |||
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"This cannot be true? He has had bareback sex with "several" people, including men, and is still alive? Lucky then eh, HIV doesn't kill you straight away, just makes you have to take drugs and keep seeing your doctor for the rest of your life. Why straight away was HIV assumed with men? Straight/bi/gay/a sexual HIV isn't a gay thing or a man thing, it's an African thing. Wow!!! Only Africans need worry and those who shag them?!! I find these sanctimonious threads amusing. It's akin to Lewis Hamilton criticising Greg Hancock for racing fast because his car affords more protection than a bike! We are indulging in a high risk activity: protect yourself as best you can: assume every potential meet has just attended a bareback gangbang and act accordingly. Sheesh! " I didn't suggest it was soley an African thing, my point was it's origins, that and it's just as broad a problem between all sexualities. | |||
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"Yes we all make informed choices, my point is why would you take the risk and seemingly be proud? I only ever play safe, wouldn't dream of playing without a condom, even when dating or if we're in relationship it's a date to the GUM clinic to get checked before even thinking about unsafe sex and still I've nipped down for further tests when in a relationship. Glad you do as do plenty of others on here, better to be safe than sorry. Yes I'm sure the highest of the majority do, safe is the best kind of sex, just that minority are crazy for taking that chance. what is your definition of safe sex? Never give them my phone number after Ha, sorry couldnt resist that. Well obviously wrapping up before penitration, and fore play in the safest possible way. " This is where the waters get murky isn't it. What is your idea of the safest possible way? | |||
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"Just don't have sex at all.....removes all the risk " Could you imagine the rate of depression - I'll fuck until the day I land In a chapel of rest But safely all the way | |||
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"Yes we all make informed choices, my point is why would you take the risk and seemingly be proud? I only ever play safe, wouldn't dream of playing without a condom, even when dating or if we're in relationship it's a date to the GUM clinic to get checked before even thinking about unsafe sex and still I've nipped down for further tests when in a relationship. Glad you do as do plenty of others on here, better to be safe than sorry. Yes I'm sure the highest of the majority do, safe is the best kind of sex, just that minority are crazy for taking that chance. what is your definition of safe sex? Never give them my phone number after Ha, sorry couldnt resist that. Well obviously wrapping up before penitration, and fore play in the safest possible way. This is where the waters get murky isn't it. What is your idea of the safest possible way? " Well not passing seman orally or otherwise, inc pre-cum. And I'm just as good with my hands as I am my cock or mouth/tongue so... I ain't risking STI's for anybody or anything. | |||
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"Just don't have sex at all.....removes all the risk " You might think so but in reality it does not. For a start you could have been born with many types of STD | |||
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"If you injure your back skiing and become a paraplegic everyone says "poor chap, how aweful!". If you get AIDS from having sex you are likely to be shunned. Sex is normal and natural. Skiing is not or humans would have 2 metre long smooth feet. Why do bigotted Victorian morals still infect our lives? " Why because that's the way people are and always will be. If you are taking risks then you aren't likely to get much sympathy and a lot of people will think you were stupid. | |||
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"Just don't have sex at all.....removes all the risk You might think so but in reality it does not. For a start you could have been born with many types of STD" Fooooooooook me, now I am depressed, may aswell shoot myself now, haha | |||
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"I have seen photo's of people having bareback oral sex too. Horrified Leeds " Not as risky though. | |||
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"If you injure your back skiing and become a paraplegic everyone says "poor chap, how aweful!". If you get AIDS from having sex you are likely to be shunned. Sex is normal and natural. Skiing is not or humans would have 2 metre long smooth feet. Why do bigotted Victorian morals still infect our lives? Why because that's the way people are and always will be. If you are taking risks then you aren't likely to get much sympathy and a lot of people will think you were stupid." Then why is there sympathy for the skier? He is taking unnecessary risks. Ps. I trust the "you" is not referring to me. | |||
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"If you injure your back skiing and become a paraplegic everyone says "poor chap, how aweful!". If you get AIDS from having sex you are likely to be shunned. Sex is normal and natural. Skiing is not or humans would have 2 metre long smooth feet. Why do bigotted Victorian morals still infect our lives? Why because that's the way people are and always will be. If you are taking risks then you aren't likely to get much sympathy and a lot of people will think you were stupid. Then why is there sympathy for the skier? He is taking unnecessary risks. Ps. I trust the "you" is not referring to me. " Why because a lot of people have a bad opinion of people who partake in certain sex acts for obvious reasons. and don't get all paranoid I wasn't meaning you I meant people in general. | |||
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"Yes we all make informed choices, my point is why would you take the risk and seemingly be proud? I only ever play safe, wouldn't dream of playing without a condom, even when dating or if we're in relationship it's a date to the GUM clinic to get checked before even thinking about unsafe sex and still I've nipped down for further tests when in a relationship. Glad you do as do plenty of others on here, better to be safe than sorry. Yes I'm sure the highest of the majority do, safe is the best kind of sex, just that minority are crazy for taking that chance. what is your definition of safe sex? Never give them my phone number after Ha, sorry couldnt resist that. Well obviously wrapping up before penitration, and fore play in the safest possible way. This is where the waters get murky isn't it. What is your idea of the safest possible way? Well not passing seman orally or otherwise, inc pre-cum. And I'm just as good with my hands as I am my cock or mouth/tongue so... I ain't risking STI's for anybody or anything. " I see. So your preference for rimming is done under protected conditions and oral? I'm not trying to start an argument but the safe sex and transparency aspect of swinging is a difficult one to navigate. Rimming for me is one step too far and I consider it to be very unsafe. That is why I say we must choose our level of safety, be honest about it and allow everyone else to do the same. | |||
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"I couldn't give a toss what other people do. I just look after myself. " But are you tossing safely? | |||
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"I couldn't give a toss what other people do. I just look after myself. But are you tossing safely? " In a locked room with a wetsuit on. | |||
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"If you injure your back skiing and become a paraplegic everyone says "poor chap, how aweful!". If you get AIDS from having sex you are likely to be shunned. Sex is normal and natural. Skiing is not or humans would have 2 metre long smooth feet. Why do bigotted Victorian morals still infect our lives? Why because that's the way people are and always will be. If you are taking risks then you aren't likely to get much sympathy and a lot of people will think you were stupid. Then why is there sympathy for the skier? He is taking unnecessary risks. Ps. I trust the "you" is not referring to me. Why because a lot of people have a bad opinion of people who partake in certain sex acts for obvious reasons. and don't get all paranoid I wasn't meaning you I meant people in general." Hrm? I don't deny what you say but do wonder what the "obvious reasons" are. Also, the key point, why is there sympathy for the chancer who skis when the natural fucker gets none? | |||
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"I couldn't give a toss what other people do. I just look after myself. But are you tossing safely? In a locked room with a wetsuit on. " Wetsuit!? Pervert | |||
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"If you injure your back skiing and become a paraplegic everyone says "poor chap, how aweful!". If you get AIDS from having sex you are likely to be shunned. Sex is normal and natural. Skiing is not or humans would have 2 metre long smooth feet. Why do bigotted Victorian morals still infect our lives? Why because that's the way people are and always will be. If you are taking risks then you aren't likely to get much sympathy and a lot of people will think you were stupid. Then why is there sympathy for the skier? He is taking unnecessary risks. Ps. I trust the "you" is not referring to me. Why because a lot of people have a bad opinion of people who partake in certain sex acts for obvious reasons. and don't get all paranoid I wasn't meaning you I meant people in general. Hrm? I don't deny what you say but do wonder what the "obvious reasons" are. Also, the key point, why is there sympathy for the chancer who skis when the natural fucker gets none? " You may think certain sex acts are natural but not everyone else agrees, I mean where do you draw the line. | |||
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"If you injure your back skiing and become a paraplegic everyone says "poor chap, how aweful!". If you get AIDS from having sex you are likely to be shunned. Sex is normal and natural. Skiing is not or humans would have 2 metre long smooth feet. Why do bigotted Victorian morals still infect our lives? Why because that's the way people are and always will be. If you are taking risks then you aren't likely to get much sympathy and a lot of people will think you were stupid. Then why is there sympathy for the skier? He is taking unnecessary risks. Ps. I trust the "you" is not referring to me. Why because a lot of people have a bad opinion of people who partake in certain sex acts for obvious reasons. and don't get all paranoid I wasn't meaning you I meant people in general. Hrm? I don't deny what you say but do wonder what the "obvious reasons" are. Also, the key point, why is there sympathy for the chancer who skis when the natural fucker gets none? You may think certain sex acts are natural but not everyone else agrees, I mean where do you draw the line." Sorry Hilda, you have lost me. :-0 I am thinking only of normal hetrosexual sex. I know the chances of catching HIV are about 1:5,000,000 but for the purposes of public perception let us assume it was caught during normal sexual intercourse. In the past even people with blood transfusion infections have been shunned. | |||
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"If you injure your back skiing and become a paraplegic everyone says "poor chap, how aweful!". If you get AIDS from having sex you are likely to be shunned. Sex is normal and natural. Skiing is not or humans would have 2 metre long smooth feet. Why do bigotted Victorian morals still infect our lives? Why because that's the way people are and always will be. If you are taking risks then you aren't likely to get much sympathy and a lot of people will think you were stupid. Then why is there sympathy for the skier? He is taking unnecessary risks. Ps. I trust the "you" is not referring to me. Why because a lot of people have a bad opinion of people who partake in certain sex acts for obvious reasons. and don't get all paranoid I wasn't meaning you I meant people in general. Hrm? I don't deny what you say but do wonder what the "obvious reasons" are. Also, the key point, why is there sympathy for the chancer who skis when the natural fucker gets none? You may think certain sex acts are natural but not everyone else agrees, I mean where do you draw the line." Everyone draws their own line. I know people who would consider oral sex with a man one met on the internet to be unnatural and highly risky from many perspectives. | |||
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"If you injure your back skiing and become a paraplegic everyone says "poor chap, how aweful!". If you get AIDS from having sex you are likely to be shunned. Sex is normal and natural. Skiing is not or humans would have 2 metre long smooth feet. Why do bigotted Victorian morals still infect our lives? in the past maybe they would have been shunned more because it was something new and they were scared, maybe. knowing what most people think of swingers I doubt they would get a lot of sympathy even hetrosexuals who had straight sex. Why because that's the way people are and always will be. If you are taking risks then you aren't likely to get much sympathy and a lot of people will think you were stupid. Then why is there sympathy for the skier? He is taking unnecessary risks. Ps. I trust the "you" is not referring to me. Why because a lot of people have a bad opinion of people who partake in certain sex acts for obvious reasons. and don't get all paranoid I wasn't meaning you I meant people in general. Hrm? I don't deny what you say but do wonder what the "obvious reasons" are. Also, the key point, why is there sympathy for the chancer who skis when the natural fucker gets none? You may think certain sex acts are natural but not everyone else agrees, I mean where do you draw the line. Sorry Hilda, you have lost me. :-0 I am thinking only of normal hetrosexual sex. I know the chances of catching HIV are about 1:5,000,000 but for the purposes of public perception let us assume it was caught during normal sexual intercourse. In the past even people with blood transfusion infections have been shunned. " | |||
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"We'd prefer that they put all the bareback photos on they have. It's the perfect filter to know who to meet and who but to. Control your own sexual health and leave others to theirs. " This | |||
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" I can understand a couple having their own to share?" Yes of course why not. | |||
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"most people consider oral sex between a man and a woman to be normal though, even the ones on the internet. " They don't Hilda. Lots of people think oral sex is abnormal. | |||
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"most people consider oral sex between a man and a woman to be normal though, even the ones on the internet. They don't Hilda. Lots of people think oral sex is abnormal." I find that hard to believe, maybe a few or certain religions but not that many. | |||
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"most people consider oral sex between a man and a woman to be normal though, even the ones on the internet. They don't Hilda. Lots of people think oral sex is abnormal. I find that hard to believe, maybe a few or certain religions but not that many." Oh well. | |||
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"oh well at least I know who to avoid by reading these threads. " Without sounding too harsh I am sure not everyone on the thread is interested in playing with you in the first place, as a straight woman I know I am definitely not interested | |||
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"oh well at least I know who to avoid by reading these threads. Without sounding too harsh I am sure not everyone on the thread is interested in playing with you in the first place, as a straight woman I know I am definitely not interested " Yes I know that, just saying that's all. That its good to know. | |||
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"Yes we all make informed choices, my point is why would you take the risk and seemingly be proud? I only ever play safe, wouldn't dream of playing without a condom, even when dating or if we're in relationship it's a date to the GUM clinic to get checked before even thinking about unsafe sex and still I've nipped down for further tests when in a relationship. That is a question that many have asked but few can answer. I think a lot of people are badly misinformed about sti's, they have strange ideas about how they're passed on and believe some funny things like you can't get one from oral, you can't pass them from woman to woman, if a man ejaculates on your body you are 100% safe....that sort of thing. Some even think that if a person looks clean they are disease free." Yes I agree, many are misinformed, and all seemingly go to the clinic every 3 months. Hmm they obviously don't talk and listen to the nurse then or pick up any leaflets to educate themselves - too busy harping on about the free condoms I expect! There are many who do not understand about the cycle of infection and you can estimate a good guess they've never been to a clinic, its just easier to agree with others. At least those showing bareback pics are not afraid to do so and I'm glad they do, a recognisable filter | |||
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"oh well at least I know who to avoid by reading these threads. Without sounding too harsh I am sure not everyone on the thread is interested in playing with you in the first place, as a straight woman I know I am definitely not interested " its not just the people on this thread though, its the people who they have met and who have met them. | |||
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"honesty is the way forward and if people are discouraged from that we won't have the information we need to make informed decisions about who we have sex with. I would much rather that people were encouraged to be open about a preference for bare back myself. Also don't forget that there are many, many forms of unsafe sex that people indulge in without a second thought. Unsafe but safer with a condom! Yep! But honesty is still the best way forward. " | |||
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"We also look at profile pics as there dont seem to be the same caution with swingers as there are with film industry workers. Some people do bareback with anyone and get tested once in a blue moon where as industry people are tested monthly and only do this with others who have certs, we would never do bareback in the swinging scene as its too risky. " I kind of guessed that, about working in the porn industry. | |||
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"Also oral without is as dangerous." As what?... Being murdered by a clown in the circus riding a little bike and firing a gun randomly into the audience? See.... Without numbers, most of the above comments have little meaning I'll have a further search | |||
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