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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Any new truck drivers taken there cpc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any drivers who passed their HGV test after September 2009 cannot legally drive HGV's unless they have one, so I bloody hope so !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, I stopped driving when law was passed to force drivers to prove their skill all over again at great cost.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Any drivers who passed their HGV test after September 2009 cannot legally drive HGV's unless they have one, so I bloody hope so !"

And, of course, all HGV drivers, old or new, must have one now.

It is one of the most lunatic pieces of legislation to be passed for some time.

Industry can raise standards without legislative measures being imposed.

But hey, there's plenty of people made more than a few quid out of it : largely at the expense of a group guys n gals who don't earn a great deal to start with.

To earn decent money, the have to work long hours, start or finish at silly o'clock and largely unsociable shifts for anyone with a family.

Having spent 20+ years working in logistics, I am glad to be out of it !

And I wasn't a driver

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I know its a waste but its ppl like you thats making jobs for us an also costing companies thousands to train ppl like me to learn the trade

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

At least one thing i read the truckers paper lol

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

All done in August will get three units taken care of when I renew my ADR in May then got five years to fit the remaining 14 hrs in sorted .

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"I know its a waste but its ppl like you thats making jobs for us an also costing companies thousands to train ppl like me to learn the trade"

So you are having a go at someone for creating a job for you? Interesting

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just the way he put it across like he couldnt be arsed

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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

cant believe folk are still making a fuss over this its seven hours each year ffs no exam no pass or fail and you may actualy learn something usefull

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Just the way he put it across like he couldnt be arsed "

I didn't read it like that. I read it as they felt it was unnecessary red tape in the industry so moved on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know its a waste but its ppl like you thats making jobs for us an also costing companies thousands to train ppl like me to learn the trade"

People like me ?

I was never a driver, so me coming out of logistics wouldn't have affected the job crisis that is readily apparent at the moment.

In terms of costs, not all drivers get their CPC paid for.

There are thousands of guys working for agencies who get sod all.

They pay for their licence, licence renewals, digi tacho cards, digi tacho renewals, any further courses / qualifications they need, uniform, PPM, medicals and so on ...

If anything I am defending drivers. I can understand them leaving when wages have peaked, stagnated if not dropped and they are being expected to do so much more to keep a job down.

The CPC may be the tip of the iceberg or indeed the straw that broke the camels back.

If anything

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My cpc is taken out off my wages to be honist the courses are a joke last one I had only thing I wanted to try and understand better was drivers hrs , the bloke stood and read them out , he kept saying" it's clear as mud this , I'm ex raf so never had to use them " what a wast off a Saturday !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Any new truck drivers taken there cpc "

I have a proper cpc, national and international in road haulage, this cpc that every one has to have now is just mickey mouse rubbish

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

"Any new truck drivers taken there cpc

I have a proper cpc, national and international in road haulage, this cpc that every one has to have now is just mickey mouse rubbish"

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By *horltzMan
over a year ago

heysham

"Any new truck drivers taken there cpc

I have a proper cpc, national and international in road haulage, this cpc that every one has to have now is just mickey mouse rubbish"

I also have the standard national Cpc I was less than amused to have to fork out for and take a week off work to listen to a clueless clown who new far less than me , it is legalised robbery plain and simple

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stopped doing agency work when they told me I had to pay for it myself, load of bollocks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've got mine to do, luckily as a technician I dont need it for roadtests etc, but I plan on getting out of the game and into driving them in the next few years. What I do find a farce tho, is the fact you can take one module five times rather than all different ones to get your card.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I drive coaches, so I had to have this long ago. I fully understand the "old guys" who take the attitude of "I don't need some useless whipper snapper telling me how to do my job".

My personal experiences are as follows:-

1) The trainers, the guys who stand up with a powerpoint presentation and tell us what we should be doing - they never seem to have worked in our sector of transport and can never answer the awkward questions.

2) There is real value in being brought up to date with the current legislation. Changes in the law happen almost weekly, for instance, the old rule about a 30mph zone being determined by the distance between lamp-posts no longer applies.

3) It's another way for the Government to charge us another 80 quid or so per year.

4) I have yet to receive a satisfactory and definitive answer to my question "am I legally required to complete a blank, manual tachograph for each day I am off duty? If I complete a manual blank tacho every 24 hours, then the time in which I am filling out the tachograph is "working time" so how can I possibly have 45 hours "off duty", and besides which, failing to enter a valid registration number along with start and finish kilometerage is illegal is it not?"

5) One word - POA

A coach driver takes a pre-booked group to Alton Towers. The group has pre-booked the coach and the driver for their sole use, for the trip. They have an allocated departure time from Alton Towers of 17.30 and they arrive at Alton Towers for 10.00. The coach driver is allowed, by his company, to do as he likes whilst the group is in the theme park. He can gain free entry if he wishes. He can stay onboard his coach if he wishes. He can also take a local bus service into Stoke on Trent if he wishes. His only requirement is that he be ready to drive from 17.30. Should he record the time from 10.00 to 17.30 as POA? Should he record correct 45 minute breaks? Should he just stick the tacho onto bed? (off duty). I have yet to meet a CPC trainer who can answer this simple question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I drive coaches, so I had to have this long ago. I fully understand the "old guys" who take the attitude of "I don't need some useless whipper snapper telling me how to do my job".

My personal experiences are as follows:-

3) It's another way for the Government to charge us another 80 quid or so per year.

5) One word - POA

Not sure about PCV regs but if we are talking HGV, I have never known a driver have to complete a tacho on his weekly rest days.

On the other matter, I would say the driver shouldn't have to log a 45 minute break to satisfy driving regulations (as whilst he is on duty he isn't actually driving), but should record a 30 minute break to satisfy EU working time regulations (as he is still 'on duty'

He should also bear in mind he will have a maximum duty time to consider regardless of the POA.

What do I win ?

The booby prize ?

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