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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Obesity can constitute a disability in certain circumstances, the EU's highest court has ruled!

Surely this is the EU gone mad!!!

In my opinion why should we pander to people who have let themselves become so unhealthy that they can not function like the majority???

Apparently workplaces will have to make the office "more accessible" for obese workers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people who are described as obese are perfectly healthy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For some people it is not a choice and can best be described as a condition.

If only it was as simple as eat less exercise more. Take a look around and see the amount if people with the condition. Whilst I'm insure how we can manage it as a disability it's a real phenomenon which needs attention not a flippant approach.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

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That's not true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true. "

Ok maybe I shouldn't use the word disability,

But certainly it's a mental issue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true.

Ok maybe I shouldn't use the word disability,

But certainly it's a mental issue"

I disagree. There are many medical conditions / medication that causes weight gain / low metabolism which are certainly not a mental issue!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's glandular!!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true.

Ok maybe I shouldn't use the word disability,

But certainly it's a mental issue

I disagree. There are many medical conditions / medication that causes weight gain / low metabolism which are certainly not a mental issue! "

In reality there is no circumstance under which its that low you can't eat less calories than burn off. The metabolism excuse is nothing less than that an excuse.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true. "

It's multi-factorial. Though majority are preventable (diet, lifestyle, attitude), others are not as simple as in some hormone-related diseases. Whichever the causes are and depending on the stage of the obesity (bmi), it might lead to many physical disabilities.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I was disabled I'd be quite peeved if someone that basically couldn't stop stuffing their face was now using the same resources/benefits as me. Imagine a child born with a terrible disability having their needs hindered because the government now has to pay out for someone that eats a lot. Grrrrrrr.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Apparently workplaces will have to make the office "more accessible" for obese workers "

And this is how they are disabled.

Same for wheelchair users who cannot access everything in life that those without them can, isn't fair to exclude people on their size. They ended up disabled because life wasn't designed for them and it excluded them by default.

Opinions, based on stereotypes of people can also disable them.

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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago

portsmouth


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


" 'in certain circumstances'"

The big clue is right there...

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By *in with a GrinMan
over a year ago

Carlisle

Anyone who can't control how much the shovel in has a mental issue its not healthy and no different from stabbing yourself with something that is sharp. Give them help to control it I say!

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter

I blame my underactive thyroid.. really hard to lose weight

what about smokers and drinkers equally probmatical and draining on the national health .

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady


"Obesity can constitute a disability in certain circumstances, the EU's highest court has ruled!

Surely this is the EU gone mad!!!

In my opinion why should we pander to people who have let themselves become so unhealthy that they can not function like the majority???

Apparently workplaces will have to make the office "more accessible" for obese workers "

Fair comment.

Maybe we shouldn't pander to smokers, drinkers, bolemics, or people who get injured in fights they started

Maybe we should not pander to the minority of the population that chose to get pregnant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true.

Ok maybe I shouldn't use the word disability,

But certainly it's a mental issue

I disagree. There are many medical conditions / medication that causes weight gain / low metabolism which are certainly not a mental issue! "

So we are suffering an epidemic of these conditions.

There are some people that can't help it, but there are lots that can.

The point I'm working towards tho is that once you are there it's bloody hard to do anything about it. It's very damaging to ones health being obese so even if there were no other contributing medical factors there soon will be.

Diabetes and the like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity can constitute a disability in certain circumstances, the EU's highest court has ruled!

Surely this is the EU gone mad!!!

In my opinion why should we pander to people who have let themselves become so unhealthy that they can not function like the majority???

Apparently workplaces will have to make the office "more accessible" for obese workers "

Have you actually read the ruling? It seems perfectly logical, balanced and fair to me.

Are you suggesting that we should be able to discrminate against someone based solely on their size?

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By *in with a GrinMan
over a year ago

Carlisle


"I blame my underactive thyroid.. really hard to lose weight

what about smokers and drinkers equally probmatical and draining on the national health ."

Eat less drink less smoke less its willpower and accepting in the noggin its the right thing for your body

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I blame my underactive thyroid.. really hard to lose weight

what about smokers and drinkers equally probmatical and draining on the national health .

Eat less drink less smoke less its willpower and accepting in the noggin its the right thing for your body"

If you can't do these things, and some people cant, then help should be given

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"

In reality there is no circumstance under which its that low you can't eat less calories than burn off. The metabolism excuse is nothing less than that an excuse. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true.

Ok maybe I shouldn't use the word disability,

But certainly it's a mental issue"

maybe in some cases - cant generalise

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Obesity can constitute a disability in certain circumstances, the EU's highest court has ruled!

Surely this is the EU gone mad!!!

In my opinion why should we pander to people who have let themselves become so unhealthy that they can not function like the majority???

Apparently workplaces will have to make the office "more accessible" for obese workers

Have you actually read the ruling? It seems perfectly logical, balanced and fair to me.

Are you suggesting that we should be able to discrminate against someone based solely on their size?

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Not their size but their lifestyle choices.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true.

Ok maybe I shouldn't use the word disability,

But certainly it's a mental issue"

It's certainly not a mental disability so I'm happy you withdrew that, but please clarify why you claim it to be a 'mental issue' in this context.

Are you suggesting that it is remotely acceptable for anyone to negatively discriminate in the workplace based on someones size?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true.

Ok maybe I shouldn't use the word disability,

But certainly it's a mental issue

I disagree. There are many medical conditions / medication that causes weight gain / low metabolism which are certainly not a mental issue!

In reality there is no circumstance under which its that low you can't eat less calories than burn off. The metabolism excuse is nothing less than that an excuse. "

Steroids for asthma screw up your metabolism and can cause weight gain. Plenty drugs do the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had the opposite problem. No matter how much I ate, i could not put on weight. I now have managed to hit 65kg. Diet/exercise are factors, but if you are genetically predisposed to be large, not a lot you can do about it.

There is nothing worse than being told go to the gym, eat less / more / differently. Some people really cannot help the shape they are in!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Does this mean obese (however that's defined) will qualify for Disability Living Allowance?

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"Obesity can constitute a disability in certain circumstances, the EU's highest court has ruled!

Surely this is the EU gone mad!!!

In my opinion why should we pander to people who have let themselves become so unhealthy that they can not function like the majority???

Apparently workplaces will have to make the office "more accessible" for obese workers "

When my son was 11 his bone marrow stopped working with a plastic anemia .

They treated it with so many steroids

that he is now obese .

So has he let himself go .

You really need to get some of your facts right before you go off on one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true.

Ok maybe I shouldn't use the word disability,

But certainly it's a mental issue

I disagree. There are many medical conditions / medication that causes weight gain / low metabolism which are certainly not a mental issue!

In reality there is no circumstance under which its that low you can't eat less calories than burn off. The metabolism excuse is nothing less than that an excuse.

Steroids for asthma screw up your metabolism and can cause weight gain. Plenty drugs do the same."

No its the food you eat that does it or are you saying you could eat nothing but still put on weight if on these drugs?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a fat guy wearing a dress wanting a ticket to watch a porn film!!.

Your taking my dignity by saying my arse won't fit in the cinema seat!!.

I do love the Simpsons

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Obesity can constitute a disability in certain circumstances, the EU's highest court has ruled!

Surely this is the EU gone mad!!!

In my opinion why should we pander to people who have let themselves become so unhealthy that they can not function like the majority???

Apparently workplaces will have to make the office "more accessible" for obese workers

When my son was 11 his bone marrow stopped working with a plastic anemia .

They treated it with so many steroids

that he is now obese .

So has he let himself go .

You really need to get some of your facts right before you go off on one"

I hope your son is better but I'm curious... What age is your son now? If he's an adult then surely he can do something to change his lifestyle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true.

Ok maybe I shouldn't use the word disability,

But certainly it's a mental issue

It's certainly not a mental disability so I'm happy you withdrew that, but please clarify why you claim it to be a 'mental issue' in this context.

Are you suggesting that it is remotely acceptable for anyone to negatively discriminate in the workplace based on someones size?"

I'm not suggesting that we discriminate against anyone, far from it.

I'm suggesting a different approach to tackling the problem.

There are many reasons people are like they are so we can't genrealise, I have seen people who have existing disabilities become obese because they have no way of burning excess calories.

Some people may be forced to take drugs which can increase the likelihood of weight gain.

Then you have people who are just greedy and lazy, shovelling in pizzas and whilst doing no exercise. All the while it's plain that their health is suffering.

We need to help these people, all of them but they method will need to vary where appropriate.

If you get to the point where they have to cut the side off your house to get you out then clearly you need help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity can constitute a disability in certain circumstances, the EU's highest court has ruled!

Surely this is the EU gone mad!!!

In my opinion why should we pander to people who have let themselves become so unhealthy that they can not function like the majority???

Apparently workplaces will have to make the office "more accessible" for obese workers

When my son was 11 his bone marrow stopped working with a plastic anemia .

They treated it with so many steroids

that he is now obese .

So has he let himself go .

You really need to get some of your facts right before you go off on one

I hope your son is better but I'm curious... What age is your son now? If he's an adult then surely he can do something to change his lifestyle "

you not reading ?? steroids - affect your metabolism massively

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suppose that a chronic condition that caused medical intervention to limit the effects is a disability. However the causes for obesity in my opinion could result from a physical condition such as diabetes or thyroid imbalances or the obesity. Similarly if someone has a physiological issue which causes some excess in eating. Either way its a health condition.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Have you actually read the ruling? It seems perfectly logical, balanced and fair to me.

Are you suggesting that we should be able to discrminate against someone based solely on their size?

Not their size but their lifestyle choices. "

Lifestyle choice is not in question here, size is.

The court ruling had nothing to do with lifestyle choice, are you suggesting it should have?

You have just said 'not their size' in relation to discrimination, that is the only thing the court was asked to rule on. You therefore agree with the ruling.

Why are you having a go at a court that made a common sense decision?

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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago

MAMOBA, miles and miles of bugger all (Aberdeenshire)

From having a BMI of over 70, it is possible to do something about being obese.

I'm still classed as overweight by the BMI scale - not because I am fat, but because I do more than the 4 hours per week exercise the scale can deal with.

I've lost 17 stone, and recently passed my training to be a gym instructor.

Yes, I had health issues that were part of me being big, but they weren't the things that walked my fat arse to the kitchen to eat more then I needed, and to drink too much. That was my choice. I ate too much, and did too little. Simple

Should obesity be a disability? Personally, not on its own. The effects of it should be dealt with, and there should be more support offered to help people manage it better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's always someone or something else's fault in this day and age.

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By *ola.Woman
over a year ago

Just where I need to be.


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Are you suggesting that it is remotely acceptable for anyone to negatively discriminate in the workplace based on someones size?"

Personally in my working environment I need my work collegues to be able to move at a moments notice. They have to be able to drop on the floor and get up in an instant. For my safety and others if their obesity affects this I always raise my concerns. As I do with any medical conditions they may have.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We could round up all the fat folk shove em on a remote Scottish island and then drop by air bananas, fruit and bottled war, film it all with hidden cameras and then the public could vote off the best weight gain losses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's always someone or something else's fault in this day and age.

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That's the only way some can cope its never them or what they eat blame it on something else. That however doesn't solve the problem one bit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I suppose that a chronic condition that caused medical intervention to limit the effects is a disability. However the causes for obesity in my opinion could result from a physical condition such as diabetes or thyroid imbalances or the obesity. Similarly if someone has a physiological issue which causes some excess in eating. Either way its a health condition. "

Does diabetes make you fat?

I've known three diabetics well in my life, the first 2 were type 1 and were both in excellent shape, the third is type 2 and is dramatically over weight. It was infact the weight that brought on the diabetes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Apparently workplaces will have to make the office "more accessible" for obese workers

And this is how they are disabled.

Same for wheelchair users who cannot access everything in life that those without them can, isn't fair to exclude people on their size. They ended up disabled because life wasn't designed for them and it excluded them by default.

Opinions, based on stereotypes of people can also disable them.

"

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"Obesity can constitute a disability in certain circumstances, the EU's highest court has ruled!

Surely this is the EU gone mad!!!

In my opinion why should we pander to people who have let themselves become so unhealthy that they can not function like the majority???

Apparently workplaces will have to make the office "more accessible" for obese workers

When my son was 11 his bone marrow stopped working with a plastic anemia .

They treated it with so many steroids

that he is now obese .

So has he let himself go .

You really need to get some of your facts right before you go off on one

I hope your son is better but I'm curious... What age is your son now? If he's an adult then surely he can do something to change his lifestyle "

He is 32 now and due to his low immune system he got cancer in his back passage for which he had radio and chemo therapy and had a major op to remove it in January.

Unfortunately it has come back and is on chemo again with a view to another major op in Febuary .

He did try losing weight on many occasions with no help.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From having a BMI of over 70, it is possible to do something about being obese.

I'm still classed as overweight by the BMI scale - not because I am fat, but because I do more than the 4 hours per week exercise the scale can deal with.

I've lost 17 stone, and recently passed my training to be a gym instructor.

Yes, I had health issues that were part of me being big, but they weren't the things that walked my fat arse to the kitchen to eat more then I needed, and to drink too much. That was my choice. I ate too much, and did too little. Simple

Should obesity be a disability? Personally, not on its own. The effects of it should be dealt with, and there should be more support offered to help people manage it better."

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By *in with a GrinMan
over a year ago

Carlisle


"I suppose that a chronic condition that caused medical intervention to limit the effects is a disability. However the causes for obesity in my opinion could result from a physical condition such as diabetes or thyroid imbalances or the obesity. Similarly if someone has a physiological issue which causes some excess in eating. Either way its a health condition.

Does diabetes make you fat?

I've known three diabetics well in my life, the first 2 were type 1 and were both in excellent shape, the third is type 2 and is dramatically over weight. It was infact the weight that brought on the diabetes. "

Eating more food than you burn off makes you fat its that simple fuck some would have it as rocket science

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By *ust_for_laughsCouple
over a year ago

Hinckley


"

Have you actually read the ruling? It seems perfectly logical, balanced and fair to me.

Are you suggesting that we should be able to discrminate against someone based solely on their size?

Not their size but their lifestyle choices.

Lifestyle choice is not in question here, size is.

The court ruling had nothing to do with lifestyle choice, are you suggesting it should have?

You have just said 'not their size' in relation to discrimination, that is the only thing the court was asked to rule on. You therefore agree with the ruling.

Why are you having a go at a court that made a common sense decision?

"

Why bother reading when you can pontificate without doing so. It's so much easier, after all...

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"It's always someone or something else's fault in this day and age.

"

Perfectly put.

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By *aughty grease monkeyMan
over a year ago

Coventry

Just another excuse for fat pigs sit on there arse and claim benefits bloody joke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does this mean obese (however that's defined) will qualify for Disability Living Allowance?"

People who claim that can also work, just saying. People entitled to these benefits need extra help getting around so can claim them. So some obese people might be entitled yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Apparently workplaces will have to make the office "more accessible" for obese workers

And this is how they are disabled.

Same for wheelchair users who cannot access everything in life that those without them can, isn't fair to exclude people on their size. They ended up disabled because life wasn't designed for them and it excluded them by default.

Opinions, based on stereotypes of people can also disable them.

"

They ended up "disabled" because they ate too many pies!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I blame my underactive thyroid.. really hard to lose weight

what about smokers and drinkers equally probmatical and draining on the national health .

Eat less drink less smoke less its willpower and accepting in the noggin its the right thing for your body"

yeap

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady


"We could round up all the fat folk shove em on a remote Scottish island and then drop by air bananas, fruit and bottled war, film it all with hidden cameras and then the public could vote off the best weight gain losses. "

If we linked up their heating to a bicycle, we could force them to exercise or freeze. Don't tell the idea to the Conservatives or the BBC will be transmatting it newt year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true.

Ok maybe I shouldn't use the word disability,

But certainly it's a mental issue

It's certainly not a mental disability so I'm happy you withdrew that, but please clarify why you claim it to be a 'mental issue' in this context.

Are you suggesting that it is remotely acceptable for anyone to negatively discriminate in the workplace based on someones size?

I'm not suggesting that we discriminate against anyone, far from it.

I'm suggesting a different approach to tackling the problem.

There are many reasons people are like they are so we can't genrealise, I have seen people who have existing disabilities become obese because they have no way of burning excess calories.

Some people may be forced to take drugs which can increase the likelihood of weight gain.

Then you have people who are just greedy and lazy, shovelling in pizzas and whilst doing no exercise. All the while it's plain that their health is suffering.

We need to help these people, all of them but they method will need to vary where appropriate.

If you get to the point where they have to cut the side off your house to get you out then clearly you need help"

What has any of that got to do with a court ruling about obesity in the workplace?

The causes of obesity are completely irrelevant to this ruling. It's a completely different topic!

The only question here is can you discriminate against someone who is obese?

You appear to agree that we shouldn't, so I don't understand your need to address the causes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What pisses me off theres always some do gooder a white night who wants to fight all these causes they get up my snotter.

If i sit on a train and want to sit across 2 seats im either told to vacate one or pay the extra fare while billy fucking fat body takes up 2 and no one says a word just in case they are prosecuted, should be a crime to eat more than you possibly need

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can't blame steroids for obesity surly, my son has to have them for his asthma all the time, he isn't big at all in fact I should probably allow them macdonalds and crap so all of my children gained a few pounds,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just another excuse for fat pigs sit on there arse and claim benefits bloody joke "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whilst I am certain the people that have unavoidable weight issues are a minority, and a small one at that, it is time people start taking responsibility for their own actions. The blame culture in this country is getting worse. Stop looking for excuses and make some simple lifestyle changes. I have heard the medical term over active thyroid but never heard the medical complication of "over active knife and fork"

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By *innamon!Woman
over a year ago

no matter


"I blame my underactive thyroid.. really hard to lose weight

what about smokers and drinkers equally probmatical and draining on the national health .

Eat less drink less smoke less its willpower and accepting in the noggin its the right thing for your body

yeap "

I wasnt making an excuse for myself . I know I should be more active. I havent smoked since 1989 .

yes eat less exercise more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Should obesity be a disability? Personally, not on its own. The effects of it should be dealt with, and there should be more support offered to help people manage it better."

The court ruled that obesity in itself was not a disability.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I blame my underactive thyroid.. really hard to lose weight

what about smokers and drinkers equally probmatical and draining on the national health .

Eat less drink less smoke less its willpower and accepting in the noggin its the right thing for your body

yeap

I wasnt making an excuse for myself . I know I should be more active. I havent smoked since 1989 .

yes eat less exercise more "

The thyroid is a funny one, I have over active, had it removed so now I have to take the same medication as you, it makes you feel lazy, horrible to have, all my over weight friends ask if they can take my pills to help them lose weight, haha,, I just say feel like me for a week and you'll soon give them back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What has any of that got to do with a court ruling about obesity in the workplace?

The causes of obesity are completely irrelevant to this ruling. It's a completely different topic!

The only question here is can you discriminate against someone who is obese?

You appear to agree that we shouldn't, so I don't understand your need to address the causes.

"

Most people don't understand what equality and equal rights means.

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"What pisses me off theres always some do gooder a white night who wants to fight all these causes they get up my snotter.

If i sit on a train and want to sit across 2 seats im either told to vacate one or pay the extra fare while billy fucking fat body takes up 2 and no one says a word just in case they are prosecuted, should be a crime to eat more than you possibly need"

You should change your profile as that

statement is not very polite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just another excuse for fat pigs sit on there arse and claim benefits bloody joke

"

Plenty obese people have jobs and businesses. Look at The government.. Eric Pickles etc..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some drugs stop your metabolism from working so you could eat the same food but its not processed properly.

So.yes.. Lifesaving drugs can cause weight gain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What has any of that got to do with a court ruling about obesity in the workplace?

The causes of obesity are completely irrelevant to this ruling. It's a completely different topic!

The only question here is can you discriminate against someone who is obese?

You appear to agree that we shouldn't, so I don't understand your need to address the causes.

Most people don't understand what equality and equal rights means."

Too many are happy in their ignorance until their own equality or rights are infringed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is about as contentious as you can get!

Yes - there are medical reasons in some cases for obesity - but i'm guessing it's no higher a percentage than it was around 30 years ago - when the 'fast food epidemic' started and the majority of us stopped cooking and resorted to quick, processed food and take-aways, coupled with little or no exercise thanks to the convenience of the car.

In 40 years the size of the average woman has jumped from a size 12 to a size 16. Men's weight has risen less but still significantly. That's frightening if it continues at the same rate, which is likely at the moment.

Although none of us wish to lambast anyone, I doubt it helps that we now refer to all larger ladies, particularly on here, as 'big beautiful women' - enforcing an opinion that being unhealthily overweight is desirable/admirable!

Unless we take individual responsibility (and collective with regard to the food industry) for our lives and actions (and this also applies to smoking/dtinking/drug use) then frankly, economically we are in very deep shit as a society! I have many overweight friends and love them dearly - so please don't think i'm trying to make anyone feel bad!! This is just an issue which worries me greatly! Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We could round up all the fat folk shove em on a remote Scottish island and then drop by air bananas, fruit and bottled war, film it all with hidden cameras and then the public could vote off the best weight gain losses. "

That sounds more entertaining than the X Factor

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Just another excuse for fat pigs sit on there arse and claim benefits bloody joke "

I'm a fat pig like you so nicely put it and I don't sit on my arse all day and claim benefits so I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion that all fat people are lazy dole dossers...

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"This is about as contentious as you can get!

Yes - there are medical reasons in some cases for obesity - but i'm guessing it's no higher a percentage than it was around 30 years ago - when the 'fast food epidemic' started and the majority of us stopped cooking and resorted to quick, processed food and take-aways, coupled with little or no exercise thanks to the convenience of the car.

In 40 years the size of the average woman has jumped from a size 12 to a size 16. Men's weight has risen less but still significantly. That's frightening if it continues at the same rate, which is likely at the moment.

Although none of us wish to lambast anyone, I doubt it helps that we now refer to all larger ladies, particularly on here, as 'big beautiful women' - enforcing an opinion that being unhealthily overweight is desirable/admirable!

Unless we take individual responsibility (and collective with regard to the food industry) for our lives and actions (and this also applies to smoking/dtinking/drug use) then frankly, economically we are in very deep shit as a society! I have many overweight friends and love them dearly - so please don't think i'm trying to make anyone feel bad!! This is just an issue which worries me greatly! Xxx"

Why can't being big be diserable..it's about choice and attraction

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just another excuse for fat pigs sit on there arse and claim benefits bloody joke "

How is it?

I'm fat and sit on my arse a lot - while I'm at work probably paying a lot more tax than you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure what saddens me most about this thread. Those that have chosen to ignore that it is about a court ruling on equality but have instead seen it as an opportunity to attack obese people. Or obese people who have felt the need to come on here to explain why they are overweight.

You cannot discriminate based on religion in the workplace and yet no one feels the need to explain why they are a certain religion. No sensible person brings into question their choice or 'religious lifestyle'.

It's irrelevant why someone is obese, whether health related or by choice.

No one should be disabled in the workplace based solely on their size.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I grew up with a obesed lazy mother, she literally stuffed her face all day long and her exercise was going to the fridge.. She didn't have a disability she was just god damn lazy.

I honestly can't see how obesity can be called a disability.. Especially when majority of the time it can be undone with dieting and excercise.

A disability isn't something that can be undone.. I personally think it makes a mockery of all those with genuine disabilities.

Just my opinion so no hate please!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is about as contentious as you can get!

Yes - there are medical reasons in some cases for obesity - but i'm guessing it's no higher a percentage than it was around 30 years ago - when the 'fast food epidemic' started and the majority of us stopped cooking and resorted to quick, processed food and take-aways, coupled with little or no exercise thanks to the convenience of the car.

In 40 years the size of the average woman has jumped from a size 12 to a size 16. Men's weight has risen less but still significantly. That's frightening if it continues at the same rate, which is likely at the moment.

Although none of us wish to lambast anyone, I doubt it helps that we now refer to all larger ladies, particularly on here, as 'big beautiful women' - enforcing an opinion that being unhealthily overweight is desirable/admirable!

Unless we take individual responsibility (and collective with regard to the food industry) for our lives and actions (and this also applies to smoking/dtinking/drug use) then frankly, economically we are in very deep shit as a society! I have many overweight friends and love them dearly - so please don't think i'm trying to make anyone feel bad!! This is just an issue which worries me greatly! Xxx"

Just because there are people on here who find bigger women attractive and tell them so (or pretend to, in some cases) doesn't mean that translates to the outside world. There's still a huge amount of fat shaming going on, yet somehow we're not all miraculously motivated to lose weight...

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What has any of that got to do with a court ruling about obesity in the workplace?

The causes of obesity are completely irrelevant to this ruling. It's a completely different topic!

The only question here is can you discriminate against someone who is obese?

You appear to agree that we shouldn't, so I don't understand your need to address the causes.

Most people don't understand what equality and equal rights means.

Too many are happy in their ignorance until their own equality or rights are infringed. "

...and debate about it like it means something else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I sit on my arse all day at work too, but then I make sure I eat right and exercise.

I'm not exactly a twigglet but at least I'm putting in the effort.

This is kind of the point, fitness is bloody hard work.

Going the gym 2 or 3 times a week isn't as much fun as staying in and eating pizza

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's always someone or something else's fault in this day and age.

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Yeah, I don't think this helps anyone though. Make junk food really expensive and healthy food much cheaper. Make various forms of exercise more accessible. Limit the amount of sugar and fat in food.

Educate people more. A friend had cut out a lot of fat from her diet to try and lose weight. She didn't realise that by replacing this food with sugary stuff was just not going to work!!

Since I've had my kids I've been shocked at how much kids TV and books all promote cake and junk food as delicious and veg as yucky.

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"Just another excuse for fat pigs sit on there arse and claim benefits bloody joke

I'm a fat pig like you so nicely put it and I don't sit on my arse all day and claim benefits so I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion that all fat people are lazy dole dossers..."

Don't take offense there are some very small minded people on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What pisses me off theres always some do gooder a white night who wants to fight all these causes they get up my snotter.

If i sit on a train and want to sit across 2 seats im either told to vacate one or pay the extra fare while billy fucking fat body takes up 2 and no one says a word just in case they are prosecuted, should be a crime to eat more than you possibly need

You should change your profile as that

statement is not very polite "

I wont change profile for stating one true fact i am polite over many things and i do have sympathy for people who areedically obese but the huge majority i have encountered eat far too much of the wrong food and are lazy and do nothing more than eat and watch TV and then when they have to go to the chippy to top up on their 20th portion of chips we give them a motorised scooter to get there they dont even burn ant calories walking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And I'll add,I've been told by the doctors im obese, I'm only size 12/14.

So the term obesity is thrown around quite loosely!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was put on medication when I was 8 stone and wasting away to nothing,my consultant said I will put on weight. A year later,after being under weight for most of my life I was 9 stone heavier and obese. My own doctor's advice was,you're too fat,stop eating. While I don't want to be treated any different than I would be when I was thin,I don't appreciate the comments from ignorants saying I stuffed my face because I wanted to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And I'll add,I've been told by the doctors im obese, I'm only size 12/14.

So the term obesity is thrown around quite loosely! "

Yeah I'm obese too, in BMI terms. And I'm clearly not disabled by it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No!!

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"And I'll add,I've been told by the doctors im obese, I'm only size 12/14.

So the term obesity is thrown around quite loosely!

Yeah I'm obese too, in BMI terms. And I'm clearly not disabled by it "

I don't think either way you can win on here it seems people have issues about size whether you are fat or slim

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By *in with a GrinMan
over a year ago

Carlisle


"I was put on medication when I was 8 stone and wasting away to nothing,my consultant said I will put on weight. A year later,after being under weight for most of my life I was 9 stone heavier and obese. My own doctor's advice was,you're too fat,stop eating. While I don't want to be treated any different than I would be when I was thin,I don't appreciate the comments from ignorants saying I stuffed my face because I wanted to. "

So was it purely down to the medication you put weight on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just another excuse for fat pigs sit on there arse and claim benefits bloody joke "

I claim benefits, own several council houses, this government lied about the welfare cap and i get £1 million a year in benefits, coz i married an immigrant and had 9 babies with him and 7 other baby daddies. And all our council houses are being extended so we can live together, in fact a whole street is being turned into a house just for us, and his extended family who are european immigrants from poland came here and they stole all the jobs in the uk and deserve a nice family home, they all have 12 kids eavch at least btw so your local school is full coz of them. And they all disabled and that's why our NHS is crumbling. And i spent 3 million quid on christmas presents for all my family this year, coz benefits is loads of money so i can afford that, daily mail are buying my story.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people who are described as obese are perfectly healthy. "

Depends how they're measuring the obesity...

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"Just another excuse for fat pigs sit on there arse and claim benefits bloody joke

I claim benefits, own several council houses, this government lied about the welfare cap and i get £1 million a year in benefits, coz i married an immigrant and had 9 babies with him and 7 other baby daddies. And all our council houses are being extended so we can live together, in fact a whole street is being turned into a house just for us, and his extended family who are european immigrants from poland came here and they stole all the jobs in the uk and deserve a nice family home, they all have 12 kids eavch at least btw so your local school is full coz of them. And they all disabled and that's why our NHS is crumbling. And i spent 3 million quid on christmas presents for all my family this year, coz benefits is loads of money so i can afford that, daily mail are buying my story."

I hope you included my present it that

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

I'm fat and i eat fuck all, ergo...i have no over active knife and fork, and do not sit stuffing my face all day. I don't eat crisps, rarely eat cake and biscuits, never have sugar and rarely eat chocolate. I walk a fair bit and do weights........why am i fat? For all you fat bashing skinnies out there

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By *rsIdiotWoman
over a year ago

Bedworth

Don't ya just love a fat bashing thread

Not had one of these for a while, it's long overdue........my block list was just crying out to have more offensive, ignorant people added to it

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By *icefellatwoMan
over a year ago

hastings


"And I'll add,I've been told by the doctors im obese, I'm only size 12/14.

So the term obesity is thrown around quite loosely!

Yeah I'm obese too, in BMI terms. And I'm clearly not disabled by it

I don't think either way you can win on here it seems people have issues about size whether you are fat or slim "

Yes but no one talks about personality

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

LETS JUST FIND MORE WAYS TO TOP UP THE BENEFIT CLAIMS we work our arses off to pay for more and more people who find more and more ways not to work .im just so pissed off with it all ,lets face it no matter who i vote for it makes no difference,this uk place is fuc--d happy xmas all note to people EAT MORE U MAY GET BENEFITS FOR IT

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"And I'll add,I've been told by the doctors im obese, I'm only size 12/14.

So the term obesity is thrown around quite loosely!

Yeah I'm obese too, in BMI terms. And I'm clearly not disabled by it

I don't think either way you can win on here it seems people have issues about size whether you are fat or slim

Yes but no one talks about personality "

According to some you can't have one of those

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true. "

If you can't see that eating to much and exercising to little is bad for you then you are "mental"

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By *rsIdiotWoman
over a year ago

Bedworth


"LETS JUST FIND MORE WAYS TO TOP UP THE BENEFIT CLAIMS we work our arses off to pay for more and more people who find more and more ways not to work .im just so pissed off with it all ,lets face it no matter who i vote for it makes no difference,this uk place is fuc--d happy xmas all note to people EAT MORE U MAY GET BENEFITS FOR IT "

Really

So all fat people are benefit scroungers now....... Remind me to quit my job right now then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"LETS JUST FIND MORE WAYS TO TOP UP THE BENEFIT CLAIMS we work our arses off to pay for more and more people who find more and more ways not to work .im just so pissed off with it all ,lets face it no matter who i vote for it makes no difference,this uk place is fuc--d happy xmas all note to people EAT MORE U MAY GET BENEFITS FOR IT "

There was an episode of "the simpsons" about that very subject "look for grease stain on the paper wrapper, the window to weight gain...".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Don't ya just love a fat bashing thread

Not had one of these for a while, it's long overdue........my block list was just crying out to have more offensive, ignorant people added to it"

Oh dear bit of a childish stance really isnt it?

Think your being a tad optimistic that some or any of the posters on here will attempt to contact you, carry on at this rate and youll be the only person you can converse with until you post something you dont like then phutt youve blocked yourself lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm fat and i eat fuck all, ergo...i have no over active knife and fork, and do not sit stuffing my face all day. I don't eat crisps, rarely eat cake and biscuits, never have sugar and rarely eat chocolate. I walk a fair bit and do weights........why am i fat? For all you fat bashing skinnies out there "
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Your taking in more calories than your using up through "living".

Amounts of food are very subjective, what you call fuck all others call a fair bit, every body is different so what one person can eat without gaining weight is not necessarily what you can eat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"LETS JUST FIND MORE WAYS TO TOP UP THE BENEFIT CLAIMS we work our arses off to pay for more and more people who find more and more ways not to work .im just so pissed off with it all ,lets face it no matter who i vote for it makes no difference,this uk place is fuc--d happy xmas all note to people EAT MORE U MAY GET BENEFITS FOR IT

There was an episode of "the simpsons" about that very subject "look for grease stain on the paper wrapper, the window to weight gain..."."
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... Yeah I quoted it before, if I had my reaching broom I'd turn off this thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just another excuse for fat pigs sit on there arse and claim benefits bloody joke

I claim benefits, own several council houses, this government lied about the welfare cap and i get £1 million a year in benefits, coz i married an immigrant and had 9 babies with him and 7 other baby daddies. And all our council houses are being extended so we can live together, in fact a whole street is being turned into a house just for us, and his extended family who are european immigrants from poland came here and they stole all the jobs in the uk and deserve a nice family home, they all have 12 kids eavch at least btw so your local school is full coz of them. And they all disabled and that's why our NHS is crumbling. And i spent 3 million quid on christmas presents for all my family this year, coz benefits is loads of money so i can afford that, daily mail are buying my story.

I hope you included my present it that "

No, coz i'm on benefits innit and can't 'do the right thing'. I just take taxes and never contribute to society or anything else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"LETS JUST FIND MORE WAYS TO TOP UP THE BENEFIT CLAIMS we work our arses off to pay for more and more people who find more and more ways not to work .im just so pissed off with it all ,lets face it no matter who i vote for it makes no difference,this uk place is fuc--d happy xmas all note to people EAT MORE U MAY GET BENEFITS FOR IT "

It has nothing to do with people not working. Did you not understand that?

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By *rsIdiotWoman
over a year ago

Bedworth


"Don't ya just love a fat bashing thread

Not had one of these for a while, it's long overdue........my block list was just crying out to have more offensive, ignorant people added to it

Oh dear bit of a childish stance really isnt it?

Think your being a tad optimistic that some or any of the posters on here will attempt to contact you, carry on at this rate and youll be the only person you can converse with until you post something you dont like then phutt youve blocked yourself lol"

Not childish at all, in fact it's one of the tools provided and a tactic advocated by those running the site. If you don't share views with someone and find their opinions offensive then mods and admin will advise you to block them.

Oh, and I have plenty of people that do share my views that I converse with regularly on here and off site, but thank you for your concern.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"LETS JUST FIND MORE WAYS TO TOP UP THE BENEFIT CLAIMS we work our arses off to pay for more and more people who find more and more ways not to work .im just so pissed off with it all ,lets face it no matter who i vote for it makes no difference,this uk place is fuc--d happy xmas all note to people EAT MORE U MAY GET BENEFITS FOR IT "

You've, collectively, contributed an excess of NI that this government won't spend. How do you feel about that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What about anyone who chooses to do something that ends up with them needing to use the services of the nhs, should they all just be told tough shit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Don't ya just love a fat bashing thread

Not had one of these for a while, it's long overdue........my block list was just crying out to have more offensive, ignorant people added to it

Oh dear bit of a childish stance really isnt it?

Think your being a tad optimistic that some or any of the posters on here will attempt to contact you, carry on at this rate and youll be the only person you can converse with until you post something you dont like then phutt youve blocked yourself lol"

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield


"Anyone who can't control how much the shovel in has a mental issue its not healthy and no different from stabbing yourself with something that is sharp. Give them help to control it I say!"

My wife had a weight problem, she was admitted to hospital and put on a controlled diet yet still put weight on.

It is not simply about shovelling food in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"LETS JUST FIND MORE WAYS TO TOP UP THE BENEFIT CLAIMS we work our arses off to pay for more and more people who find more and more ways not to work .im just so pissed off with it all ,lets face it no matter who i vote for it makes no difference,this uk place is fuc--d happy xmas all note to people EAT MORE U MAY GET BENEFITS FOR IT "

Instead of blaming people on benefits for all the problems in your life why not look to the government who have been shafting us for years, claiming expenses for anything they can think of, why not be angry at them for wasting the taxpayers cash huh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The amount of tax we pay on food and luxury items the government have accrued a large amount from fat people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true.

Ok maybe I shouldn't use the word disability,

But certainly it's a mental issue

I disagree. There are many medical conditions / medication that causes weight gain / low metabolism which are certainly not a mental issue!

In reality there is no circumstance under which its that low you can't eat less calories than burn off. The metabolism excuse is nothing less than that an excuse. "

I don't understand when people say this, I hear it all the time.... Burn off more cals than you eat. Do people really think this is true? So if you allowance for the day is 2000… you'd need to burn off at least 2001 cals before your body starts burning fat!! This isn't true you just need to create a deficit by either exercise, eating less or a combination of the two. So if your allowance was 2000 and you burn 200 cals at the gym you have created a deficit and should start burning fat, but you've still had 1800 cals that day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Don't ya just love a fat bashing thread

Not had one of these for a while, it's long overdue........my block list was just crying out to have more offensive, ignorant people added to it

Oh dear bit of a childish stance really isnt it?

Think your being a tad optimistic that some or any of the posters on here will attempt to contact you, carry on at this rate and youll be the only person you can converse with until you post something you dont like then phutt youve blocked yourself lol

Not childish at all, in fact it's one of the tools provided and a tactic advocated by those running the site. If you don't share views with someone and find their opinions offensive then mods and admin will advise you to block them.

Oh, and I have plenty of people that do share my views that I converse with regularly on here and off site, but thank you for your concern."

Most adults can accept that some people have strong opinions about things and also can accept that a lot of people will not agree with them.

Just think how well our parliment would work if one political party refused to debate with the other parties because they say something they dislike.

Most people can discuss openly and do not need to hide behind site rules and its almost playground attitude you have im not talking to you youve said something i dont like.

But like you say you have plenty of people you can converse with and we hope you enjoy those.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is a disability, but it's a mental one not physical.

That's not true.

Ok maybe I shouldn't use the word disability,

But certainly it's a mental issue

I disagree. There are many medical conditions / medication that causes weight gain / low metabolism which are certainly not a mental issue!

In reality there is no circumstance under which its that low you can't eat less calories than burn off. The metabolism excuse is nothing less than that an excuse.

I don't understand when people say this, I hear it all the time.... Burn off more cals than you eat. Do people really think this is true? So if you allowance for the day is 2000… you'd need to burn off at least 2001 cals before your body starts burning fat!! This isn't true you just need to create a deficit by either exercise, eating less or a combination of the two. So if your allowance was 2000 and you burn 200 cals at the gym you have created a deficit and should start burning fat, but you've still had 1800 cals that day."
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Instead of thinking in calories and gyms think of a hybrid petrol car.

Your using petrol (food) in times of high usage (like ripping it large down the motorway) but the car is storing energy (fat) in batteries while your tootling downhill(lazing on the sofa or sat at an office desk) the amount of energy you used during the day is the same but how and when your consuming the food and how and when your using the energy may not necessarily be the most efficient way.

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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

Some levels of obesity are physically disabling and often when people get like that they cannot simply lose weight. They need medical intervention.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some levels of obesity are physically disabling and often when people get like that they cannot simply lose weight. They need medical intervention. "

Totally agree. I don't think there's anybody that's sets out to be morbidly obese, but once they reach that stage it hard to lose the weight for a variety of reasons. They physically can't, they have unlying health problems, they may be lacking in knowledge (hence how they got into the situation) mental problems like depression causing them to over eat and just feeling embarrassed about going out and being ridiculed by narrow minded people. I therefore think it is a good thing to help those that need it with government money (could make things better in the long term) but I don't think we should facilitate them to stay large. I haven't followed the news but heard thing like providing larger chairs etc... I think this is fine in the short term but they should also help those wanting help to get to a more healthy weight for them.

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over a year ago


"Some levels of obesity are physically disabling and often when people get like that they cannot simply lose weight. They need medical intervention.

Totally agree. I don't think there's anybody that's sets out to be morbidly obese, but once they reach that stage it hard to lose the weight for a variety of reasons. They physically can't, they have unlying health problems, they may be lacking in knowledge (hence how they got into the situation) mental problems like depression causing them to over eat and just feeling embarrassed about going out and being ridiculed by narrow minded people. I therefore think it is a good thing to help those that need it with government money (could make things better in the long term) but I don't think we should facilitate them to stay large. I haven't followed the news but heard thing like providing larger chairs etc... I think this is fine in the short term but they should also help those wanting help to get to a more healthy weight for them."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And who will be next, plenty don't function like the majority x

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By *atelotmanMan
over a year ago

Chatham

I know that in some case illness an drugs can lead to people gaining uncontrolled weight.But most obesity comes from people to lazy to help themselves.If you walk down the high street in my area an look in the windows of KFC,BK,MacD an cafes an you will the same fat blobs stuffing their faces.

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By *igandanneCouple
over a year ago

Cheltenham

Ive noticed that Greggs have very wide doors ,maybe they need them

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over a year ago


"I know that in some case illness an drugs can lead to people gaining uncontrolled weight.But most obesity comes from people to lazy to help themselves.If you walk down the high street in my area an look in the windows of KFC,BK,MacD an cafes an you will the same fat blobs stuffing their faces."

I am not overweight, never have been nor do I want to be or am attracted to those that are. However, what gives anybody the right to ridicule them and call them names? They are human beings with feelings and those going out of their way to make hurtful comments to them could be exasperating the problem, as some turn to food to comfort themselves.

There's also people with deep emotional issues, like abuse, which has caused them to mask the pain and hide from the world using food. People shouldn't be so judgemental its not like a drug you can go cold turkey on you have to eat to live. Imagine saying to a drug addict or a alcoholic you have to have some vodka/heroine every day but you can't over do it.... Doubt they'd last very long!!

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By *rcticFoxxxWoman
over a year ago

Hereabouts


"Some people who are described as obese are perfectly healthy. "

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Some of the comments on this thread are just vile there is really no need for it...

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago


"Some people who are described as obese are perfectly healthy "

'perfectly health' hmmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some of the comments on this thread are just vile there is really no need for it... "

I am embarrassed for people!!

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Some of the comments on this thread are just vile there is really no need for it...

I am embarrassed for people!! "

Fat bashing threads just end up with insults either about slim people or fat people. You can't be slim or fat it seems on fab...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its about self control at the end of the day to make the choice what to eat, so an office don't really need to change what food they got, and no obesity is not an disability as your not born with it, anyone knows whats healthy and unheathly to eat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just because they like cake shouldn't mean an employer has to pay £800+ for a larger office chair. And god forbid disabled benefits to buy more cake with

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon


"Its about self control at the end of the day to make the choice what to eat, so an office don't really need to change what food they got, and no obesity is not an disability as your not born with it, anyone knows whats healthy and unheathly to eat."

Some don't though due to lack of education and also down to what foods they were brought up on. If you are brought up on processed high calorie foods you may go on to eat that in your adult life. Some parents haven't taught their kids to cook and live life on fast food and microwave meals. For some eating "bad" food is the norm and the type of foods they only really know.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people who are described as obese are perfectly healthy

'perfectly health' hmmmm "

I watched an episode of "obese a year to save my life" the guy was 30 stone plus. They sent him for a full medical at the best institute. Their results were he was in perfect health and had the heart and lungs of an athlete. He was obviously disappointed as he had no excuses, but in the end he did fantastic and I think he became a personal trainer in the end even though he still had about 10 stone to lose.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some of the comments on this thread are just vile there is really no need for it...

I am embarrassed for people!!

Fat bashing threads just end up with insults either about slim people or fat people. You can't be slim or fat it seems on fab..."

I ignore them, boils down to their own insecurities and the fact that they think the world revolves around them (and so does every conversation). My own personal ways of attention seeking has more postitive results.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This problem will continue to plague humanity while ever people continue being born with the hole at the top bigger than the one at the bottom !!!

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent


"Some people who are described as obese are perfectly healthy

'perfectly health' hmmmm "

So a muscular gym going bloke who does cardio and eats a low fat, high protein diet with no junk food etc but weighs 16 stone or more and is classed as obese by the BMI measurement which Is how the medical lot figure it out isn't perfectly healthy then? Hmmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its about self control at the end of the day to make the choice what to eat, so an office don't really need to change what food they got, and no obesity is not an disability as your not born with it, anyone knows whats healthy and unheathly to eat.

Some don't though due to lack of education and also down to what foods they were brought up on. If you are brought up on processed high calorie foods you may go on to eat that in your adult life. Some parents haven't taught their kids to cook and live life on fast food and microwave meals. For some eating "bad" food is the norm and the type of foods they only really know.

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Yes that's right to about upbringing and education.

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

Someone who's 30 stone would not get a perfect bill of health. Yes aspects of the body might be good, ok with no issues but someone who's 30 stone is not considered perfectly healthy regardless of reasons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fingers you have used to dial are too fat. To obtain a special dialing wand, please mash the keypad with your palm ... now.

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

No, not a disability.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haha loving the right wing sun reader esque balls being spouted on this thread, do you all feel superior now sitting behind your keyboards putting other people down? you all must have some major insecurities to be looking for faults in others so much, I call that a classic case of projection right there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people who are described as obese are perfectly healthy

'perfectly health' hmmmm

So a muscular gym going bloke who does cardio and eats a low fat, high protein diet with no junk food etc but weighs 16 stone or more and is classed as obese by the BMI measurement which Is how the medical lot figure it out isn't perfectly healthy then? Hmmmm"
Most muscle guys got about 5 to 10% bodyfat and that's healthy.

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By *oobsandballsMan
over a year ago

st andrews

It's threads like these that are really helpful in building that block list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some people who are described as obese are perfectly healthy

'perfectly health' hmmmm

So a muscular gym going bloke who does cardio and eats a low fat, high protein diet with no junk food etc but weighs 16 stone or more and is classed as obese by the BMI measurement which Is how the medical lot figure it out isn't perfectly healthy then? Hmmmm"
being 16 stone is bad for you unless your a naturally big person say 6ft5 or over

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

Its called a discussion Rinky. Simple as.

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent


"Its about self control at the end of the day to make the choice what to eat, so an office don't really need to change what food they got, and no obesity is not an disability as your not born with it, anyone knows whats healthy and unheathly to eat."

Problem is a lot don't, foods that are advertised as low fat etc are often so full of sugar they are worse for you than the normal version. I know plenty of people that have tried to lose weight eating 'healthy' ready meals as the calories etc are easier to track than making stuff from scratch but it doesn't work. I don't actuslly count calories and I've lost 2 stone in 3 months but I exercise a lot x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its about self control at the end of the day to make the choice what to eat, so an office don't really need to change what food they got, and no obesity is not an disability as your not born with it, anyone knows whats healthy and unheathly to eat."

preaching about healthy when you said the other day you like to bareback, all the muscles in the world won't stop you from catching something nasty friend, but then you should know what's healthy and unhealthy right???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its about self control at the end of the day to make the choice what to eat, so an office don't really need to change what food they got, and no obesity is not an disability as your not born with it, anyone knows whats healthy and unheathly to eat.

Some don't though due to lack of education and also down to what foods they were brought up on. If you are brought up on processed high calorie foods you may go on to eat that in your adult life. Some parents haven't taught their kids to cook and live life on fast food and microwave meals. For some eating "bad" food is the norm and the type of foods they only really know.

"

Exactly, there was another program I watched were Lorraine Kelly was asking an obese family what is healthy, they answered cheese and trifle because it has fruit in it!! Some people lack knowledge through ignorance or upbringing but it doesn't make them a bad person. Also, there is so many added ingredients in convenience foods these days you have to be very savvy or, as I do, only eat natural foods, to avoid it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its called a discussion Rinky. Simple as."

no , when people throw insults its not a discussion anymore.simple as.

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

You seem to be making things up Rinky unless of course you've mistaken me for someone else. Nice tactic tho If you dont like what someone's saying make something up about them

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By *oobsandballsMan
over a year ago

st andrews

Weight issues aren't always about food *sigh*

But don't let that stop you from assuming everyone who's fat eats a chocolate gateau every night.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

huh? why do you think I'm referring to you personally read my post I was talking in general about several posters, cute of you to think its all about you though lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity can constitute a disability in certain circumstances, the EU's highest court has ruled!

Surely this is the EU gone mad!!!

In my opinion why should we pander to people who have let themselves become so unhealthy that they can not function like the majority???

Apparently workplaces will have to make the office "more accessible" for obese workers

When my son was 11 his bone marrow stopped working with a plastic anemia .

They treated it with so many steroids

that he is now obese .

So has he let himself go .

You really need to get some of your facts right before you go off on one

I hope your son is better but I'm curious... What age is your son now? If he's an adult then surely he can do something to change his lifestyle "

and if it's medicine that's put the weight on him and keeping him now healthy how the hell is him being an adult and changing his lifestyle gonna help. It's not his lifestyle that got his weight problem it was his aplastic anaemia

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its about self control at the end of the day to make the choice what to eat, so an office don't really need to change what food they got, and no obesity is not an disability as your not born with it, anyone knows whats healthy and unheathly to eat.

Problem is a lot don't, foods that are advertised as low fat etc are often so full of sugar they are worse for you than the normal version. I know plenty of people that have tried to lose weight eating 'healthy' ready meals as the calories etc are easier to track than making stuff from scratch but it doesn't work. I don't actuslly count calories and I've lost 2 stone in 3 months but I exercise a lot x"
Well done and good effort and ur right to about the advertising thingy on ready meals it can be confusing, an diet is also more fun if you don't count calories as you said there as you feel ur not on a diet either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its about self control at the end of the day to make the choice what to eat, so an office don't really need to change what food they got, and no obesity is not an disability as your not born with it, anyone knows whats healthy and unheathly to eat.

preaching about healthy when you said the other day you like to bareback, all the muscles in the world won't stop you from catching something nasty friend, but then you should know what's healthy and unhealthy right???"

Really dedicated gym bunnies can be very unhealthy, low fat percentage does not equal health. A lot of them are using illegal supplements and even if not the strain you put on your body can lead to all sorts of complications, diets are generally unhealthy and too high in particular food groups instead of eating a balanced healthy diet.

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

Nah Rinky, stating fact that someone who's 30 stone would never be classed as perfectly or medically fully healthy is not abuse. If it makes you feel better to believe the opposite feel free.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its about self control at the end of the day to make the choice what to eat, so an office don't really need to change what food they got, and no obesity is not an disability as your not born with it, anyone knows whats healthy and unheathly to eat.

preaching about healthy when you said the other day you like to bareback, all the muscles in the world won't stop you from catching something nasty friend, but then you should know what's healthy and unhealthy right???"
Sorry but bareback is not being the topic discussed here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nah Rinky, stating fact that someone who's 30 stone would never be classed as perfectly or medically fully healthy is not abuse. If it makes you feel better to believe the opposite feel free.

"

what are.you on about I wasn't even talking about you get over yourself!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being 'fat' (obese or any other way of putting it), has many causes.

It is easy for someone who has not a problem to say 'just eat less'!!

Would it be that easy!

Now everyone is diff and some are an 'effect' father then a cause (ie a psychological problem). For 20 years, I was told I was just greedy and eat less. The reality turned out to be an adenoma on an adrenal gland that screwed up my chemicals inhibiting the chemical msg to my brain to say I was full. for nearly 20 years, I always felt as though I had not eaten for days. I would wake up in the night with hunger pains.

Since an operation to remove my adrenal gland(and the lump), I have lost five stone and eat fairly normally(yes like everyone else now I have to not eat to many chocs lol). So in my case all the people telling me that I was just greedy and it was 'all my fault' (yes that hurt a lot. I kept saying that something was wrong but no one listened), were wrong.

People are quick to judge and usually are very wrong, but then why change a habit of a lifetime? lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its about self control at the end of the day to make the choice what to eat, so an office don't really need to change what food they got, and no obesity is not an disability as your not born with it, anyone knows whats healthy and unheathly to eat.

preaching about healthy when you said the other day you like to bareback, all the muscles in the world won't stop you from catching something nasty friend, but then you should know what's healthy and unhealthy right???Sorry but bareback is not being the topic discussed here."

just pointing out your hypocrisy

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent

John cena the wrestler is 6ft and weighs over 17.5 stone, you can't tell me hes obese..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its about self control at the end of the day to make the choice what to eat, so an office don't really need to change what food they got, and no obesity is not an disability as your not born with it, anyone knows whats healthy and unheathly to eat.

preaching about healthy when you said the other day you like to bareback, all the muscles in the world won't stop you from catching something nasty friend, but then you should know what's healthy and unhealthy right???Sorry but bareback is not being the topic discussed here.

just pointing out your hypocrisy"
That's fine I don't mind it lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"John cena the wrestler is 6ft and weighs over 17.5 stone, you can't tell me hes obese.. "

now he is fit

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over a year ago

Many of our clients find pants confining, so we offer a range of alternatives for the ample gentleman: ponchos, muumuus, capes, jumpsuits, unisheets, muslin body rolls, academic and judicial robes.”

Homer: "I don't want to look like a weirdo. I'll just go with the muumuu."

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By *issHottieBottieWoman
over a year ago

Kent


"John cena the wrestler is 6ft and weighs over 17.5 stone, you can't tell me hes obese..

now he is fit"

But his BMI says he's 33.3 and so he must be a fatty! Lol.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


" For some people it is not a choice and can best be described as a condition.

If only it was as simple as eat less exercise more. Take a look around and see the amount if people with the condition. Whilst I'm insure how we can manage it as a disability it's a real phenomenon which needs attention not a flippant approach."

Would love to hear from someone who was around in the 50/60"s to hear how many obese people were around in those days

If someone is obese for a medial reason then they would get my full support however if its down to them being lazy and eating to much cr.p then it would make my blood boil if they were able to claim extra money because of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nah Rinky, stating fact that someone who's 30 stone would never be classed as perfectly or medically fully healthy is not abuse. If it makes you feel better to believe the opposite feel free.

"

I am no expert, but they were and that's what they said. They put him through dozens of tests and he didn't have any medical problems whatsoever thus making him healthy. However, due to the higher chance of developing problems in the future it was advised to lose weight as a preventative measure. We assume fat = unhealthy but I think that's only because people develop illnesses as a direct result of being obese, but if the illnesses aren't present how is that not healthy?

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over a year ago


"John cena the wrestler is 6ft and weighs over 17.5 stone, you can't tell me hes obese.. "
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Many body builders suffer heart attacks.a rippling body is not a guarantee of health..

17:5 stone is bad for you at 6ft regardless of being a wrestler.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its about self control at the end of the day to make the choice what to eat, so an office don't really need to change what food they got, and no obesity is not an disability as your not born with it, anyone knows whats healthy and unheathly to eat.

preaching about healthy when you said the other day you like to bareback, all the muscles in the world won't stop you from catching something nasty friend, but then you should know what's healthy and unhealthy right???Sorry but bareback is not being the topic discussed here."

I don't think you can say that something is not a disability just because the person wasn't born with it. People can suffer from disabling illnesses at any stage of life after birth (think of Steven Hawking) or be the victims of accidents (say paralysis from a road accident) and there would be no debate at all about them being disabled.

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By * Busty HotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Bradford

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By * Busty HotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Bradford

Obesity is as much a disease as homosexuality. It's a choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm fat and i eat fuck all, ergo...i have no over active knife and fork, and do not sit stuffing my face all day. I don't eat crisps, rarely eat cake and biscuits, never have sugar and rarely eat chocolate. I walk a fair bit and do weights........why am i fat? For all you fat bashing skinnies out there "

Denial?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we can all agree that if you are obese then you have a problem, regardless of the causes we should be helping people.

The issue may be physiological or it may be psychological.

Losing weight for some people is hard, I can just keep eating till I burst, there is no signal from my brain to say stop.

Processed food contains far more calories than fresh food, I try to cook from ingredients as often as possible

We need an organised response, to identify people's problems and give assistance

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"Some people who are described as obese are perfectly healthy

'perfectly health' hmmmm

So a muscular gym going bloke who does cardio and eats a low fat, high protein diet with no junk food etc but weighs 16 stone or more and is classed as obese by the BMI measurement which Is how the medical lot figure it out isn't perfectly healthy then? Hmmmm"

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BMI is just a tool to calculate and categorise people into underweight, optimum, overweight and obese.

Health is determined by lots of.other factors.

For instant risk.of cardiovascular disease is.more related to waist circumferences (waist-hip ratio) rather than BMI, cholesterol.levels presence or absence of hypertension & diabetes, smoking etc.

We cant just take BMI and say someone.is healthy or not.

Most of the things in life require us to be broad and open.minded and consider all facts.

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By *aisy100Woman
over a year ago

wakefield


"It's always someone or something else's fault in this day and age.

Yeah, I don't think this helps anyone though. Make junk food really expensive and healthy food much cheaper. Make various forms of exercise more accessible. Limit the amount of sugar and fat in food.

Educate people more. A friend had cut out a lot of fat from her diet to try and lose weight. She didn't realise that by replacing this food with sugary stuff was just not going to work!!

Since I've had my kids I've been shocked at how much kids TV and books all promote cake and junk food as delicious and veg as yucky."

I think junk/fast food is really expensive anyway, the last time I got a McDonalds it cost me £5.89.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is as much a disease as homosexuality. It's a choice. "

Oh dear... I take it you are just trying to provoke people now!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

k when people start comparing obesity to being gay, that's time for me to leave this thread, I just can't do it anymore lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Obesity is as much a disease as homosexuality. It's a choice.

Oh dear... I take it you are just trying to provoke people now!!"

Definitely the most ridiculous thing I've read on here today, they should win a prize really lol.

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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago

hertfordshire

oh dear usual thread

I put on weight because of polycystic ovarys

most fat bashers have never been fat so have no right to say about it ive had a battle with weight all my life and I don't over eat having to control my diabetes

my dad was skinny my mum was big a lot is genetic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No it's a first world problem simple

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London


"Obesity is as much a disease as homosexuality. It's a choice. "

wow..didnt see that coming..

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People can be forced to have sex...but they cannot be forced to love.

A homosexual can force himself to live as a hetero but he can never deny his real feelings towards another of the same gender.

If it's a disease i wonder why there is no cure when so many countries claimed that they are advanced and developed.

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