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American Grand Jury - Attorney Impeachment?

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville

Assistant Prosecuting District Attorney Kathi Alizadeh for Darren Wilson, when a juror asked "if the Supreme Court ruling overrides the Missouri statues", Alizadeh could not answer with a simple, “Yes.” The law in question was over ruled nearly 30 yrs ago, it gave power to the Police to shoot fleeing suspects. Kathi Alizadeh gave the jury the out dated statute at the beginning of the trial so they could refer to it, misleading the Jury - gifting the case to the defence team of Officer Wilson. She handed them the current statute at the very end advising, 'I gave you a statute at the beginning, that was in correct, this is the right one - dont worry about it'

The court documents that were released of what happened behind closed doors in the Grand Jury hearing, show a complete dereliction of duty on behalf of the prosecutor’s office.

I've copied most of this from news bulletins. Any thoughts?

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville

little bump

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes my thoughts are that the establishment will always protect the establishment.

Even when their wrong unfortunately.

I personally think it stems from that mind set that says I'm in charge and there can be no dissent, no errors and no faults with the system.

But more importantly their mind set is never let the public panic about the system as that might make them think for themselves

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville

Pretty good summation of the American way there!

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

the whole thing is a whitewash and just a good old fashioned fiasco .... if you can't blind 'em with science baffle 'em with bullshit .... here's a post from elsewhere ....

it's of little surprise really when the post of Distrct Attorney and Chief of Police are both political offices in america ..... that is to say that they are not independently appointed positions but posts that are usually filled by career politicians who are endorsed by the elected mayor or senator. the nature of the case meant that effectively the state itself could find itself on trial and so the state saw the need to defend itself ... otherwise these politicians could find their careers comming to an abrupt end

one of the troubling elements is prosecutor Robert P. McCullough's relationship with Ferguson police department and St. Louis County police department. His Father, Mother, Brother and his Uncle all work for the Police. His father was allegedly killed responding to a call in the community of Ferguson Missouri.

it would seem fair to say that he was hardly in a position to carry out the role of public prosecuter in an objective way.

the state senator,amongst many others called for an independent prosecutor to conduct proceedings, the senator is quoted as saying, " This racially charged climate demands an independent investigation, and to be perfectly blunt, the African-American community has no confidence that your office can carry out an impartial investigation and prosecution.”

She cited several reasons for this lack of confidence, including McCullochs’ failure to bring charges against police officers accused of killing two men in 2000 – even in the face of the findings from an independent U.S. Attorney Office investigation that those officers had lied about their behavior and fired 20 shots into the unarmed victims’ vehicle."

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By *exyLancs2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

All sounds a bit iffy doesn't it. Assume these 'errors' aside, would the grand jury's decision have been different?

Would the debate be as charged if it was a black police officer that shot a black suspect?

Just glad we don't have a gun culture here to be honest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kind of sounds like the current US torture thing against anything that ain't white American - to me

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Sorry, I fell asleep halfway through the post. Will this have any effect on us?

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago


"Sorry, I fell asleep halfway through the post. Will this have any effect on us?"

zzzzzzzz

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hehe that tittled me .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Remember to stand down and keep calm tge next time racial injustice happens here

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


" All sounds a bit iffy doesn't it. Assume these 'errors' aside, would the grand jury's decision have been different? "

probably not in the ferguson case.... a lot of the issues for the DA is that because they have to work with the police on a daily basis, you can see the reluctance to go after them in a criminal case..... a lot of the ferguson stuff is based on "he said, they said" evidence

they did something ferguson they rarely ever do... they basically used it like a trial in secret, they showed the defence case as well as the prosecutors... and afterwards... the DA basically crushed any chance of a federal case being brought up instead by discrediting everyone and the evidence

the Eric Garner case in new york is a whole different animal and a headscratcher because there is video of what happened.... the thing with staten island is that is it the most conservative part of new york and where a lot of police live... they are very pro police.... but even after seeing the entire 14 minute video I don't how the policeman can skate without any charges being brought at all.....

that is the one that is like the be brought up under federal civil rights charges....


" Would the debate be as charged if it was a black police officer that shot a black suspect?

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that is an interesting question.... because the cases like Eric Garner, Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, Oscar Grant are so high profile... even going back to Rodney King, i think any police officer of any colour would have issued in those cases... because it looks like police officers can get away with anything........

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville

The events in America recently have created a very disturbing image... What is the likelihood that most Americans think that it doesn't / wouldn't ever affect them. Quite a good fucking, lot of think.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" All sounds a bit iffy doesn't it. Assume these 'errors' aside, would the grand jury's decision have been different?

probably not in the ferguson case.... a lot of the issues for the DA is that because they have to work with the police on a daily basis, you can see the reluctance to go after them in a criminal case..... a lot of the ferguson stuff is based on "he said, they said" evidence

they did something ferguson they rarely ever do... they basically used it like a trial in secret, they showed the defence case as well as the prosecutors... and afterwards... the DA basically crushed any chance of a federal case being brought up instead by discrediting everyone and the evidence

the Eric Garner case in new york is a whole different animal and a headscratcher because there is video of what happened.... the thing with staten island is that is it the most conservative part of new york and where a lot of police live... they are very pro police.... but even after seeing the entire 14 minute video I don't how the policeman can skate without any charges being brought at all.....

that is the one that is like the be brought up under federal civil rights charges....

Would the debate be as charged if it was a black police officer that shot a black suspect?

that is an interesting question.... because the cases like Eric Garner, Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, Oscar Grant are so high profile... even going back to Rodney King, i think any police officer of any colour would have issued in those cases... because it looks like police officers can get away with anything........"

And that's it in a nut shell. With most of the police agency's becoming militarized. Heck even one of our local agency got an armored personnel carrier. ( Why do the police need military equipment like that?) That line between soldier and police officer is getting thinner and thinner and has been for quite a while now. The screwed up part about it is "We ask for it." By the time the general population wakes up to what's really going on it will be to late. You would think that people would learn from history, apparently not.

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By *oodmess OP   Man
over a year ago

yumsville

Agreed, we do seem though, to be not as excessive as Us police.. Could that come from the right to arms debate?

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