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"Your point on attractive men being more appealing than ugly women leaves out one critical point. The women have vaginas and that is where I like to put my penis. " So you're saying you'd rather have sex and/or a relationship with the foulest woman you can imagine over the most ideal male? | |||
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"Your point on attractive men being more appealing than ugly women leaves out one critical point. The women have vaginas and that is where I like to put my penis. So you're saying you'd rather have sex and/or a relationship with the foulest woman you can imagine over the most ideal male?" All day long. I would never consider sex or a relationship with a man. I would rather do without. | |||
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"Your point on attractive men being more appealing than ugly women leaves out one critical point. The women have vaginas and that is where I like to put my penis. So you're saying you'd rather have sex and/or a relationship with the foulest woman you can imagine over the most ideal male? All day long. I would never consider sex or a relationship with a man. I would rather do without. " It's people like me that keep the Mr Polks of this site strictly on the straight ![]() | |||
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"The logic about lining up all the people in the world is flawed." I put it forward as a logical consequence of saying that you are 100% straight. 100% straight implies that there is no scenario in which someone of the same sex is more preferable than someone of the opposite sex. I think it's an interesting hypothetical scenario then to consider the finest possible same-sex partner vs the worst opposite-sex partner. | |||
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" All day long. I would never consider sex or a relationship with a man. I would rather do without. " ^^ this. I can see your points OP, and I can fully appreciate when people find a man attractive, and can see why in some cases, but that doesn't mean I would have a relationship with that man. So am I fully straight? Yes. I'd say I am. Right? I am right? Shit. | |||
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"Your point on attractive men being more appealing than ugly women leaves out one critical point. The women have vaginas and that is where I like to put my penis. So you're saying you'd rather have sex and/or a relationship with the foulest woman you can imagine over the most ideal male? All day long. I would never consider sex or a relationship with a man. I would rather do without. " And I would go without before having sex with someone I found repulsive or a woman, I don't need 'sex at all cost' - so the logic of the question is a bit flawed. | |||
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"The logic about lining up all the people in the world is flawed. I put it forward as a logical consequence of saying that you are 100% straight. 100% straight implies that there is no scenario in which someone of the same sex is more preferable than someone of the opposite sex. I think it's an interesting hypothetical scenario then to consider the finest possible same-sex partner vs the worst opposite-sex partner." But your not taking into consideration the anatomy of the male and female. A male has a cock. What on earth am I meant to do with that. Although I wouldn't have sex with the most foulest female you could imagine , I wouldn't have sex with any man no matter how ideal you deemed him to be. | |||
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"All day long. I would never consider sex or a relationship with a man. I would rather do without. " Some people who think of themselves as straight give a little ground when I make this argument ![]() | |||
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"Your point on attractive men being more appealing than ugly women leaves out one critical point. The women have vaginas and that is where I like to put my penis. So you're saying you'd rather have sex and/or a relationship with the foulest woman you can imagine over the most ideal male? All day long. I would never consider sex or a relationship with a man. I would rather do without. It's people like me that keep the Mr Polks of this site strictly on the straight ![]() You're not so bad Stevie baby. | |||
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"And I would go without before having sex with someone I found repulsive or a woman, I don't need 'sex at all cost' - so the logic of the question is a bit flawed." 'Sex at all cost' is not part of the argument. I'm simply asking people who consider themselves straight to consider a hypothetical situation: worst-case opposite sex partner vs ideal-case same-sex partner. Some people still plump for the opposite sex, some say they'd go without, and some acknowledge that a grey area exists for them. | |||
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"Your point on attractive men being more appealing than ugly women leaves out one critical point. The women have vaginas and that is where I like to put my penis. " But....... what if the bloke had a plastio-vagina and was really really nice looking and didn't tell you he'd been born a bloke. Just saying....... | |||
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"So putting them in a line is irrelevant." It's irrelevant in the sense that is a hypothetical scenario, sure. I'm contending that if somebody accepts that some people of the same sex are a more acceptable proposition than some people of the opposite sex, then they are maybe 99% straight ![]() | |||
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"Your point on attractive men being more appealing than ugly women leaves out one critical point. The women have vaginas and that is where I like to put my penis. But....... what if the bloke had a plastio-vagina and was really really nice looking and didn't tell you he'd been born a bloke. Just saying......." If my aunt had bollocks she'd be my uncle. | |||
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"I wonder what 20 years in a desert island would do to some people." I have never craved sex, I have gone through many lean periods. Twenty years isolation wouldn't make me change my sexuality. | |||
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"Society has determined the standards of prettiness, an acceptance of that doesnt require an accompanying sexual desire. That's easy for me to understand, maybe partly because I am not gay." I agree that there is a large cultural aspect to what is considered 'good-looking'. I also agree that one can see that someone meets those criteria without there being any sexual desire. My argument is that being 100% straight implies that all people of the opposite sex are a more attractive proposition for sex or a relationship than anybody of the same sex. And that if you find some people of the same sex more appealing than some members of the opposite sex, you are moving along the spectrum to some extent. | |||
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" My argument is that being 100% straight implies that all people of the opposite sex are a more attractive proposition for sex or a relationship than anybody of the same sex. " No it doesn't, because at the bottom end you are talking about repulsion, not attraction. Yes, there are some utterly repulsive men around, like 'Sir Les Patterson' for instance, but that does not make the prospect of a woman any more attractive to me, or more likely to happen, it just means it's a different kind of repulsion! | |||
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" No it doesn't, because at the bottom end you are talking about repulsion, not attraction. Yes, there are some utterly repulsive men around, like 'Sir Les Patterson' for instance, but that does not make the prospect of a woman any more attractive to me, or more likely to happen, it just means it's a different kind of repulsion!" I'm not asking about likelihood - it's a hypothetical scenario. If you're saying that you wouldn't find any woman more attractive than the most repulsive man, then that's fine. I would consider that a good definition of 100% straight. If you would consider some women more attractive than the most repulsive man, then my thought is that you move along the spectrum, however slightly. 99.9%, 98%, etc | |||
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"I really don't understand why some people struggle with the fact that many (myself included) are simply not sexually attracted whatsoever to those of the same sex - regardless of how horny we may feel at times." At no point have I suggested that I don't understand that. I believe some people are 100% straight and some are 100% gay. I also believe that people exist everywhere in between. I have also found that some people would consider themselves e.g. 'straight' but when I put this scenario to them they acknowledge that there is in fact a grey area for them. | |||
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"I really don't understand why some people struggle with the fact that many (myself included) are simply not sexually attracted whatsoever to those of the same sex - regardless of how horny we may feel at times. At no point have I suggested that I don't understand that. I believe some people are 100% straight and some are 100% gay. I also believe that people exist everywhere in between. I have also found that some people would consider themselves e.g. 'straight' but when I put this scenario to them they acknowledge that there is in fact a grey area for them." ![]() ![]() | |||
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