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By *attitude6 OP   Man
over a year ago

Ilkeston

So i drive on the Motorway a fair bit, and I always do 70mph the legal speed limit, unless im overtaking a lorry then i wanna get past them as quick as i can lol (sure everyones the same).... but when I am doing 70mph.. A THOUSAND people overtake me.. HOW!?!? they are ALL breaking the speed limit and breaking the law... how is this not errm monitored for one... coz surely everyone on the M1 is breaking the speed limmit but then you DO hear about people getting caught speeding on the motorway... how isnt EVERYONE caght???

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By *uton_coupleCouple
over a year ago

luton


"So i drive on the Motorway a fair bit, and I always do 70mph the legal speed limit, unless im overtaking a lorry then i wanna get past them as quick as i can lol (sure everyones the same).... but when I am doing 70mph.. A THOUSAND people overtake me.. HOW!?!? they are ALL breaking the speed limit and breaking the law... how is this not errm monitored for one... coz surely everyone on the M1 is breaking the speed limmit but then you DO hear about people getting caught speeding on the motorway... how isnt EVERYONE caght???"

1 police car.......100 breaking the speed limit, errrrrrrrrrr dont think its possible to catch em all

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Its because they slow down at speed cameras

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By *ushroom7Man
over a year ago

Bradford

In effect, the actual speed limit is unofficially 80. High 70's on a good clear road, actual cop cars are not gonna stop you. That's partly why the limit has never been raised, or will be.

Beware however there are a lot of speed cameras placed inside overhead gantries.

Out of interest, do you find it is safer trabelling at 80+ when you have to pay attention, or tootling along at 60+ and bored?

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By *ertngladCouple
over a year ago

thornton -cleveleys

Never mind the speeders what about those car drivers that sit in the first lane travelling at 50 mph (no more no less) and articulated lorries and wagons have to pull out to overtake them slowing the middle lane down too.

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By *attitude6 OP   Man
over a year ago

Ilkeston

its just the thing of.. EVERYONE is doing over 70 and zoom past... and yeah cameras and stuff but obviously theres none on the motorway coz otherwise thered be millions of fines n points being issued!

i find 70 is a reasonable pace to go out.. i think the faster you go, the mroe alert you are.. but i always think if i do 90mph in my clio then the engine would probably blow up lol

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By *uton_coupleCouple
over a year ago

luton


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In effect, the actual speed limit is unofficially 80. High 70's on a good clear road, actual cop cars are not gonna stop you. That's partly why the limit has never been raised, or will be.

Beware however there are a lot of speed cameras placed inside overhead gantries.

Out of interest, do you find it is safer trabelling at 80+ when you have to pay attention, or tootling along at 60+ and bored?"

so..............nice clear road, cop cars parked with a speed cam........you pass him doing 78...........he wont stop you!!!!

what roads that then?

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By *ansue35Couple
over a year ago

yorkshire

we on our family holiday, kids in back radio on.

We doing 65 70. car passes us doing about 90-100.

I said to sue,that git i bet never been stopped.

Forgot about it until,we arrive at hotel, kids jump out.

Our son says dad thats the car you where talking about.

We walk into the hotel. A copper standing at the desk waiting for check in. He turns to me and say i been here five minutes and no one has checked me in yet. ( i grin ) turn to him and said well if you had driven at 65-70 you arrived at the same time as us and not waited so long.

Two receptionists come the side office one sees to him other to us.

On the other side am, into saving money so driving at 65 saved us fuel and we still end up just behind the car doing 90-100.

Ian

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else

I too drive at 65-70 most of the time.

However I still overtake many others, and not just HGV's.

Either I pay closer attention, or amaybe I'm less prone to sweeping generalisations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The trick, is not to be the fastest car on the road!

Mr.Classy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's about time the limit on motorways was increased. It's been 70 since Moses was a baby.

With the advances in vehicle technology it's time it was increased

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having driven on the autobahns in Germany, where the advisory speed limit is 80mph and no general speed limit is applicable (although cars with a maximum speed of 60mph are not allowed to use the autobahns), and also in America where the speed limit was 55mph (most states upped their speed limits to between 65-75 in 2005), I can say that both systems worked very well as the people using them all knew what the score was.

Our motorway limits here in the UK work well too as we all know what that limit is, and I've found that the variable speed limits that come into force on some of the busier motorways during rush hour and at road works enables the traffic on those roads to flow far smoother than before the variable limit was introduced.

I have to say that I prefer the Autobahn speed levels as I am a bit of an adrenalin junkie behind the wheel but my days of haring around the UK at 100mph are well behind me as I simply can't afford to lose my licence with the amount of surveillance cameras we have covering our highways and byways these days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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In effect, the actual speed limit is unofficially 80. High 70's on a good clear road, actual cop cars are not gonna stop you. That's partly why the limit has never been raised, or will be.

Beware however there are a lot of speed cameras placed inside overhead gantries.

Out of interest, do you find it is safer trabelling at 80+ when you have to pay attention, or tootling along at 60+ and bored?"

It isn't 'unofficialy' anything, it officially is 70 and varies for other types of vehicle, eg LGV, Coaches, certain types of van etc.

It is assumed that you can get away with 10% + 2mph of the speed limit, and to be fair you probably would but if the plod wants to be funny, the official limit is 70 ...

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By *adcowWoman
over a year ago

kirkcaldy

did you read about that guy in switzerland who did get caught? $1000000 fine possible for doing 2 1/2 times the limit - they work differently based on the speed and wealth of the culprit. would that deter all those breaking the limit here do you think?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it goes by wealth, I'd get fined a quid

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By *ylde FloozyWoman
over a year ago

preston

I guess I'm just lucky!

*knocks on wood*

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By *attitude6 OP   Man
over a year ago

Ilkeston

As well... I have experience abuse on the Motorway.. i rememebr I was doing 50mph on the M1 due to the expansion of the motorway, it was a 50mph enforced limit... so I was doing 50 and a HGV lorry was behind me beeping his horn, flashing his lights at me.. when i pulled off to go to service station he hurled abuse YET i was doin the legal limit!!

its same with any roads tho isnt it, 30mph roads cars from 2 miles back seemingly are on your bum 30 seconds later! why do they drive so close! If i suddenly pressed my brakes they would crash into me.. too many arseholes on the roads... altho i do especially like it when a car comes right up behind me and attempts to overtake- well i put my fooking foot down to make it difficult for them!!!!! shame my clio is only a 1.2 and cant outrun even a milk float hahaha

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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else


"altho i do especially like it when a car comes right up behind me and attempts to overtake- well i put my fooking foot down to make it difficult for them!!!!! "

That's dangerous.

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By *-and-KCouple
over a year ago

Back of Beyond

There is always discrepancy in vehicle speedo's that is the reason.

The law recognises that, that is why the ACPO guidlines say speedlimit+10%+2mph before action is taken. On motorways therefore that is 70+7+2= 79mph before you will get done. Lots of people know that and take advantage.

You can check your own speedo with a satnav, for instance our Picasso which is only 18 months old shows 70mph on the dashboard but the satnav shows us at 67mph, the satnav cannot be wrong but the car can be!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is always discrepancy in vehicle speedo's that is the reason.

The law recognises that, that is why the ACPO guidlines say speedlimit+10%+2mph before action is taken. On motorways therefore that is 70+7+2= 79mph before you will get done. Lots of people know that and take advantage.

You can check your own speedo with a satnav, for instance our Picasso which is only 18 months old shows 70mph on the dashboard but the satnav shows us at 67mph, the satnav cannot be wrong but the car can be!"

speedo's are set at 5 miles slower than the speed shown on the speedometor

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

Sorry but speedometers are not set to read 5 mph faster than real, at least my 14-year-old Land Rover isn’t, its dead on at 30 mph and 2 mph over at 70 mph. My 3-year-old 407 is better than 1% at any speed.

Its often said that the 70 mph limit on motorways is outdated in respect of vehicle technology BUT people haven’t changed much, in fact I think its worse. Vehicles nowadays are so safe and easy to drive you don’t need to be a driver anymore, vehicles almost drive themselves!

Tracking control, ABS etc. the problems occur when the speed goes beyond the vehicles ability, in other words, when something happens to make it ‘interesting’ people then find they don’t actually know how to deal with the situation as things change from everything being fine to totally out of control in a split second!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The general rule is you will get away doing 78 mph. A lot depends on the road conditions, traffic flow etc. I got caught doing 96 and the copper told me he was not stopping cars up to 90mph. I drive a lot on the motorways and always stick at 80 and thats passing coppers and they never bother.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

Must admit to being a 85mph driver and i still get fools driving up my arse.

I drive a sports car that is designed to go fast and stop fast and i just know the prat behind me will not be able stop if i have to slam all on.

I got taken out by a woman sending a text at 70mph when she swerved into the outside lane whilst looking at her phone leaving me with a very badly smashed up car.

Steve

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fools , Prats n Women eh Mr 85 M.P.H :P

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do 70 miles per hour, sometimes more specially if i have to overtake but if im cruising or fancy a smoke, i go to the slow lane, i dont hog the fast lane as im not in a fast car

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do 70 miles per hour, sometimes more specially if i have to overtake but if im cruising or fancy a smoke, i go to the slow lane, i dont hog the fast lane as im not in a fast car"

But it would be a fast car if you did 85 mph

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do 70 miles per hour, sometimes more specially if i have to overtake but if im cruising or fancy a smoke, i go to the slow lane, i dont hog the fast lane as im not in a fast car

But it would be a fast car if you did 85 mph"

no i meant like Mercedes etc, sales reps cars

yes i could go 90 and have done but didnt realise it at the time as it was downhill towards Bristol on the M5, scared the shit out of me so slowed down watch my speed now i know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry but speedometers are not set to read 5 mph faster than real, at least my 14-year-old Land Rover isn’t, its dead on at 30 mph and 2 mph over at 70 mph. My 3-year-old 407 is better than 1% at any speed.

Its often said that the 70 mph limit on motorways is outdated in respect of vehicle technology BUT people haven’t changed much, in fact I think its worse. Vehicles nowadays are so safe and easy to drive you don’t need to be a driver anymore, vehicles almost drive themselves!

Tracking control, ABS etc. the problems occur when the speed goes beyond the vehicles ability, in other words, when something happens to make it ‘interesting’ people then find they don’t actually know how to deal with the situation as things change from everything being fine to totally out of control in a split second!

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Hence when i get towards Bristol M5 to M4, i slow down and keep my distance. Was doing that stretch once, very busy bank holiday weekend, had a silly git pull in front of me from a slip road, complete with family and luggage in car, didnt match us for speed and had i not been watching my speed, id have gone up his ass

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So i drive on the Motorway a fair bit, and I always do 70mph the legal speed limit, unless im overtaking a lorry then i wanna get past them as quick as i can lol (sure everyones the same).... but when I am doing 70mph.. A THOUSAND people overtake me.. HOW!?!? they are ALL breaking the speed limit and breaking the law... how is this not errm monitored for one... coz surely everyone on the M1 is breaking the speed limmit but then you DO hear about people getting caught speeding on the motorway... how isnt EVERYONE caght???"

Why change it? If we all went faster then cars are less efficient and use more fuel. Slower is more environmentaly friendly.

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By *oftyladnloftyladyCouple
over a year ago

worcester

If we all went faster then cars are less efficient and use more fuel. Slower is more environmentaly friendly.

fifty is thrifty but the tons more fun.

I think the motorways would flow better regardless of speed if people were taught how to drive on them correctly and used the nearside lane unless overtaking, rather than sitting in the centre lane or at 70 in the righthand lane when the other lanes are empty and you catch them up at 80 on the nearside but legally cannot overtake.

driving slowly you tend to switch off the concentration on the road ahead or play with the in car gadgets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" If we all went faster then cars are less efficient and use more fuel. Slower is more environmentaly friendly.

fifty is thrifty but the tons more fun.

I think the motorways would flow better regardless of speed if people were taught how to drive on them correctly and used the nearside lane unless overtaking, rather than sitting in the centre lane or at 70 in the righthand lane when the other lanes are empty and you catch them up at 80 on the nearside but legally cannot overtake.

driving slowly you tend to switch off the concentration on the road ahead or play with the in car gadgets."

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.I agree with the above, I do alot of motorway driving, and have noticed that over the last 10 or so years the general standard of motorway driving has fallen hugely, most hold ups are due to lane hogs and people driving to close to the car ahead, people braking althe time so they can stay as close as poss to the car infront causes whats known as the ripple effect, the first car brakes for a second, the second for 2 and so on untill sometimes the traffic stops altogether.

lane hogs also cause this as people cant overtake as there arent enough faster lanes left, even tho the slow lane is often empty.

Imo there should be a driving test for the motorways, i would happily take one, i might even learn something, i think we all might.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" If we all went faster then cars are less efficient and use more fuel. Slower is more environmentaly friendly.

fifty is thrifty but the tons more fun.

I think the motorways would flow better regardless of speed if people were taught how to drive on them correctly and used the nearside lane unless overtaking, rather than sitting in the centre lane or at 70 in the righthand lane when the other lanes are empty and you catch them up at 80 on the nearside but legally cannot overtake.

driving slowly you tend to switch off the concentration on the road ahead or play with the in car gadgets.

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.I agree with the above, I do alot of motorway driving, and have noticed that over the last 10 or so years the general standard of motorway driving has fallen hugely, most hold ups are due to lane hogs and people driving to close to the car ahead, people braking althe time so they can stay as close as poss to the car infront causes whats known as the ripple effect, the first car brakes for a second, the second for 2 and so on untill sometimes the traffic stops altogether.

lane hogs also cause this as people cant overtake as there arent enough faster lanes left, even tho the slow lane is often empty.

Imo there should be a driving test for the motorways, i would happily take one, i might even learn something, i think we all might."

well said, its the middle lane hoggers that cause all the congestion on motorways, i used to drive a lot on motorways as a rep and i also drive a coach part time so i have a lot of experience. i no longer use them if i can help it as i get stressed out with the idiots on them, but it is the same on dual carriageways. just comes down to bad driving/habits the driving test should be revised to teach people. by the way i do use and ENJOY pulling my caravan on motorways, WHY because i am in the left hand (slow) lane and at 60mph very relaxed, even love it when there is a jam or roadworks because i get further than the twits in the outside, slow lane becomes the quicker lane.

as for the copper at the hotel waiting to be checked in, well i have flown down the M1 in the past, overtook my manager who was doing 60/65 and i was doing xxx mph, when i got to my meeting place it was only a few minutes before he arrived. if you are travelling 20mph faster than the legal speed of 70mph you will only cover 10 miles more in 1/2hr, thats less than 10 minutes quicker. at 60mph (1 mile per minute) so is it really worth it, i am talking more about yours and others lives here not the speeding fines

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple
over a year ago

Bolton

Must admit when i worked in Bristol and traveled home on a Thursday night back to Bolton setting off at around 10pm i used to drive the whole way at 65mph and it would take me about 15mins longer than ripping down the road.

I also found i could climb into bed and fall asleep as i was not stressed out and in need of a drink and 2 hours telly before i could sleep.

Steve

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" If we all went faster then cars are less efficient and use more fuel. Slower is more environmentaly friendly.

fifty is thrifty but the tons more fun.

I think the motorways would flow better regardless of speed if people were taught how to drive on them correctly and used the nearside lane unless overtaking, rather than sitting in the centre lane or at 70 in the righthand lane when the other lanes are empty and you catch them up at 80 on the nearside but legally cannot overtake.

driving slowly you tend to switch off the concentration on the road ahead or play with the in car gadgets.

.

.I agree with the above, I do alot of motorway driving, and have noticed that over the last 10 or so years the general standard of motorway driving has fallen hugely, most hold ups are due to lane hogs and people driving to close to the car ahead, people braking althe time so they can stay as close as poss to the car infront causes whats known as the ripple effect, the first car brakes for a second, the second for 2 and so on untill sometimes the traffic stops altogether.

lane hogs also cause this as people cant overtake as there arent enough faster lanes left, even tho the slow lane is often empty.

Imo there should be a driving test for the motorways, i would happily take one, i might even learn something, i think we all might."

There are no fast lanes.

There are no slow lanes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i stand corrected, you are of course right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No matter how fast you go some Muppet will always try to overtake you if possible,just to prove they can.

I saw a T.V programme where the police said if people didn't speed on M.ways,they would be clogged up with tailbacks and bunching caused by everyone doing 70mph.

For the record I'm a 70mph driver with the odd 80 burst once in a blue moon.

It saves money and I usually end up behind the speeders at the off ramp anyway. R

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)
over a year ago

birmingham


"surely everyone on the M1 is breaking the speed limit"

Didn't think it was possible to get up to the speed limit on the M1, let alone exceed it!

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