FabSwingers.com forum: Question Time next week

By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago

North West

Featuring Nigel Frarage AND Russell Brand. Don't you dare miss it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow. . A fellow QT fan. . High five sir

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There will be fireworks!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find QT frustrating ..far too much rhetoric and point scoring...very little substance and debate.

It's on TV ...so it's supposed to entertain primarily, I guess... Disappointing nonetheless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For once, the REAL politicians won't get a word in edgeways. Or will they?

Tune in next week to find out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Something to look for . . Retired politicians . . They tend to make the most sense . They have no agenda to adhere to and no votes to try and win

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

it's an hour of all questions and no answers though ..... pretty pointless exercise ... think i'll do summut more rewarding

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you pay attention, it's the opposite of that. One question. Several answers from different points of view. Gets you thinking .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Are they having little and large the week after?

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By *he tactile technicianMan
over a year ago

the good lands, the bad lands, the any where you may want me lands

but where is it coming from? that always plays a part in how exciting or not it will be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you pay attention, it's the opposite of that. One question. Several answers from different points of view. Gets you thinking . "

Just feel the answers lack substance or aren't supported by facts.... Or the facts are cherry picked and you never get a proper picture as nothing is expanded upon.

Politicians accuse each other of being untruthful or having poor policies but it never gets anywhere near deep enough that you really know what's what's beyond...

"It's your party's fault we're in this mess....they spent £Xbn and nothing's changed..."

"Well according to our official figures....that's not true... We're cleaning the mess your policies have created. We did this and it's had a positive impact on that so nerrr"

Blah blah.

Unless all sides are right - which means that no policy works - they're just having a laugh, experimenting with public money.

That's edutainment folks.

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

"but where is it coming from? that always plays a part in how exciting or not it will be

The study, with the lead pipe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"but where is it coming from? that always plays a part in how exciting or not it will be

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Chams !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In fairness . .some or indeed most of the panel are not active MPs, so you get less of 'it's their fault' angles . I find it throws up some extra points not normally aired . I listen to a lot of talk radio (because i'm a stuffy old tosser) that's also an interesting way to hear points from all sides

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

I think the BBC should provide dictionary's and phrase books to translate "Brandglish" into English.

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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Featuring Nigel Frarage AND Russell Brand. Don't you dare miss it. "

Says me who has just realised I will be out of country next week - well out of BBC reach. Must remember to sky+ it.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I hope they have Ian Hislop on. He's always value for money, as is Gorgeous George.

I'm also hoping that the entire audience shouts 'Park Life' at Brand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ha . . TT. . Get yourself a ticket and go ! It'll be epic

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's such a pity that Dimbleby has such a tory bias, so whilst it will be interesting, it won't be a fair debate. Ukip have had far too much BBC and question time coverage too. Little inclusion of Greens and others.

Will be watching.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

question time is a bbc production so the audience in attendance will almost certainly be hand picked and hostile..it will be just another bcc ambush and crucifixon..if I was farage or brand I would tell them to stick there show up there arse and not bother turning up

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"question time is a bbc production so the audience in attendance will almost certainly be hand picked and hostile..it will be just another bcc ambush and crucifixon..if I was farage or brand I would tell them to stick there show up there arse and not bother turning up"

only flaw in that is they are both blatant self publicists who love the sound of their own flim flummery..

agree on the audience point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's such a pity that Dimbleby has such a tory bias, so whilst it will be interesting, it won't be a fair debate. Ukip have had far too much BBC and question time coverage too. Little inclusion of Greens and others.

Will be watching."
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Dimbleby is an old Oxford bullingdon boy , same as Cameron, Boris Johnson, Osborne,vaisey(labour)and gove, they mixed with company like nat Rothschild(banking family and the man caught on the boat with Osborne a Russian oligarch and mandelson(labour and failed mp)at the time eu trade commissioner) doing secret deals)..

Then there's Jason gisling(ocardo chairman).

Sebastian grigg(chairman of credit suisse).

Nicholas boles (founder of the think tank policy exchange). In fact nearly all the "think tanks" have founders from Oxford or bullingdon, there the people that pay for these surveys like the recent one that found eu immigration paid it's way?.

Oh and it's a strict men only policy so know female leaders of industry or politicians like Caroline Lucas, yes I've voted green for 15 years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The leaders of this and many other counties are so genetically mixed up and slapping each on the back with bribes and kick backs I'm surprised anyone believes any politician from any persuasion is genuinely trying to run the county for anyone but themselves and their mates!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Maybe after farrages comments on LBC about breastfeeding mothers someone will tell him to sit in the corner for the duration of the programme..

clown..

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

A mate posted this article just now on FB, my ribs are hurting and my cheeks ache i'm laughing so much! just had to share it ......

Russell Brand and Nigel Farage on Question Time means politics has reached ‘peak shit’

by John Higgs Author of The KLF: Chaos, Magic and the Band Who Burned a Million Pounds.

Politics is essentially a dirty-protest version of Total Wipeout. All parties compete to fling the most shit at each other, and whoever is covered in the least shit on election day is allowed to run the country. This system has worked well. It has been in place since the days of the Plantagenets and it was one of Britain’s great gifts to the world.

But something unprecedented has happened. The 800-year-old system has unexpectedly failed and politics is entering a strange and terrifying new era. In our modern hyper-connected world, so much shit is currently being flung that it is physically impossible to fling any more shit. Everyone is as covered in as much shit as it is possible to be. The hope that one party will have less shit on them come polling day is now a distant dream. We have entered the era of Peak Shit.

The implications are terrifying. Once you hit Peak Shit, all the shit essentially cancels itself out. We can see this in the rise of UKIP. Parties of millionaire city boys who hate poor people and foreigners have historically not done well in this country, because they made an easy target to throw shit at. But in an era where that shit no longer distinguishes them from all the other shit-covered politicians they can publicly offer up opinions which trigger a shit tsunami, safe in the knowledge that this is no longer a hindrance to success.

Another good example is Boris Johnson. He was born 100% shit. He can basically do and say anything he likes because, whatever happens, he will always remain 100% shit.

Or consider the Labour Party. They lost their last leader, Gordon Brown, to a heroic flurry of shit slinging by the right-wing press in the days before Peak Shit. That shit-flinging began in earnest as soon as Brown became Prime Minister and the result was that everybody in the country is certain that Brown was a terrible man, even if they can’t exactly remember why. The Labour Party were stung by this, and concocted a cunning strategy to make sure it never happened again.

The plan was this: they would elect a shit-magnet as leader, a goofy oaf who would absorb the full force of all the shit aimed at the party. It did not matter if he was a nice guy who was usually right about things, his goggly eyes could be relied upon to attract the shit regardless. The idea was that Ed Miliband would be replaced by a shining new Blair-alike a few weeks before the election. This clean Blair-alike would be untainted by the years of shit, and would pick up Miliband’s policies and romp home with a huge majority. This is why the rest of his party have done their best to encourage shit throwing at their leader. It is why the left are more likely to publicly bemoan how Ed can’t eat a bacon sandwich rather than remind people of, for example, that time he stopped Cameron and Obama starting a war against Syria in which they intended to ally themselves with ISIS.

But Labour had not reckoned with the coming of Peak Shit. Despite years of sterling service as a shit magnet, Miliband is still ahead in the polls. This means that the clever last-minute leader-switch becomes an unnecessary risk. Those who elected him leader are starting to realise that, despite their best-laid plans, he is actually likely to become Prime Minister. Not only that, but a Prime Minister coated in the maximum amount of shit that it is physically possible to be coated in.

Currently the right-wing press are flinging shit at Russell Brand. He isn’t a politician, but because they pretend the Green Party doesn’t exist they use him to fill an imaginary void in the political spectrum. It has become his job to say all the stuff that should be said by actual politicians and journalists.

Man, there is a lot of shit being flung at Russell Brand these days. He is taking Julian Assange levels of shit. Those shit-flingers in the newsrooms of The Sun and the Daily Mail are complaining their arms are getting tired. The nagging suspicion in the back of their minds, that maybe there is something else they could be doing with their lives, is surely getting harder to ignore.

Yet is it harming him? Brand will appear on Question Time on BBC One on Thursday, alongside Nigel Farage. You should force yourself to watch, because one day you will tell your children about it. There will be shit-coated Brand on one side, shit-coated Farage on the other, and assorted shits in between making up the numbers.

This, in a nutshell, is politics in 2014. I believe that there is no other way to make sense of this spectacle but to accept that, yes, terrifyingly, things have now changed. This is the new normal we need to come to terms with. In years to come, historians will say that Thursday’s Question Time was the point where no-one could deny we were in the era of Peak Shit.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

spike milligan is on bbc 4 at the same time ..... thankfully!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

QT has been frustrating lately as the conservative party line seems to be to blame labour for the WORLD recession! Every question links back to labour's 'failings' in some way and they take no responsibility for their own governing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haha... And here was me worrying about peak oil and all its implications without realising we'd hit peak shit..

Mind you if they ever run out of shit, I know somebody in a swimming pool who can just release vast amounts daily.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Not to mention Penny Mordaunt, Royal Naval Reservist.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

interesting question one...... is everyone else watching

russell has all his notes on the table

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"interesting question one...... is everyone else watching

russell has all his notes on the table"

If he's taken the quantity of drugs he claims to, he probably has memory issues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If only Ed Miliband had had his notes.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

I'm not sure I can face any more of this.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i like the fact that farage mentions austraia has a large turnout... and their mps behave like outs....

.... might be something to do with the fact that voting in compulsary... and they get fined if they dont vote....

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I'm not sure I can face any more of this."

its not one of the better ones..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How is Russy doing. Is it worth watching on catchup ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's well rowdy for a question time, watch it on catch up.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"How is Russy doing. Is it worth watching on catchup ?"

he's loud and outspoken but...

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"How is Russy doing. Is it worth watching on catchup ?"

Yes!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not sure I can face any more of this.

its not one of the better ones..

But isn't this what politics should be about? Yes, it is lively and raucous, but between the shouting there are points being debated. I think a bit of passion in politics is to be welcomed.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

russ isn't doing too bad.... thought a riot was going to break out there... the bloke with the stick vs purple haired lady......

qt is going to have to get the bouncers in....

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"How is Russy doing. Is it worth watching on catchup ?"

No, you can write the script for this one including the heckles.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I'm not sure I can face any more of this.

its not one of the better ones..

But isn't this what politics should be about? Yes, it is lively and raucous, but between the shouting there are points being debated. I think a bit of passion in politics is to be welcomed."

No, its ironic that the first question was about 'yaboo' politics putting people off..

then its turned into a bit like pmq's with all the schoolboy heckling..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not sure I can face any more of this.

its not one of the better ones..

But isn't this what politics should be about? Yes, it is lively and raucous, but between the shouting there are points being debated. I think a bit of passion in politics is to be welcomed.

No, its ironic that the first question was about 'yaboo' politics putting people off..

then its turned into a bit like pmq's with all the schoolboy heckling.. "

But between the heckling people are challenging the panel, points are being discussed and there is healthy debate. It is good to see people passionate and hopefully it will lead to a higher turn out at the next election.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I'm not sure I can face any more of this.

its not one of the better ones..

But isn't this what politics should be about? Yes, it is lively and raucous, but between the shouting there are points being debated. I think a bit of passion in politics is to be welcomed.

No, its ironic that the first question was about 'yaboo' politics putting people off..

then its turned into a bit like pmq's with all the schoolboy heckling..

Not sure that passion will play that big a part next May, but may well figure along with anger, fear etc..

share your view that anything that gets more folks involved with the process can only be a positive..

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

We have our head in our hands watching this, I don't know who the labour representative is but she isn't doing herself or labour any favours

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fight fight fight fight

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"We have our head in our hands watching this, I don't know who the labour representative is but she isn't doing herself or labour any favours"

one could equally say that about the other 2 parties represented..

wonder if the lib dooms are peeved for being dropped..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not sure I can face any more of this.

its not one of the better ones..

But isn't this what politics should be about? Yes, it is lively and raucous, but between the shouting there are points being debated. I think a bit of passion in politics is to be welcomed.

No, its ironic that the first question was about 'yaboo' politics putting people off..

then its turned into a bit like pmq's with all the schoolboy heckling..

Not sure that passion will play that big a part next May, but may well figure along with anger, fear etc..

share your view that anything that gets more folks involved with the process can only be a positive.. "

Fear is dangerous unless it is tackled head on, which is why I think programmes like this which allow the public and a diverse panel to challenge directly people like Farage is hugely important.

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By *W69Couple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

Definitely worth watching!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I'm not sure I can face any more of this.

its not one of the better ones..

But isn't this what politics should be about? Yes, it is lively and raucous, but between the shouting there are points being debated. I think a bit of passion in politics is to be welcomed.

No, its ironic that the first question was about 'yaboo' politics putting people off..

then its turned into a bit like pmq's with all the schoolboy heckling..

Not sure that passion will play that big a part next May, but may well figure along with anger, fear etc..

share your view that anything that gets more folks involved with the process can only be a positive..

Fear is dangerous unless it is tackled head on, which is why I think programmes like this which allow the public and a diverse panel to challenge directly people like Farage is hugely important."

agreed, probably nearer to the election we will see more robust questioning of the policies of all of them..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I suspect Farage will feel he came out of that pretty well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agreed about Farage. I'm no fan of his policies, although they've probably changed again as I typed this, but I can see his charisma and he does sound like he's talking sense of some points against labour conservative politicians who seem to be too careful about what they say and have pre-prepared answers.

I'm going for a shower after typing that.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

I gave up watching QT a while ago because the questions are often silly, tackling the symptom and not the cause. A lot of the audience comments are banal too.

And every week immigration is talked about and it just gets repetitive.

I Googled the panel and the Labour person is Mary Creagh, she's not one of the better Labour reps but they used to trot her out on the show quite often. But she comes across as too robotic and rehearsed.

I might watch this episode though if it's as spicy as everyone is saying.

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By *picyspiregirlCouple
over a year ago

chesterfield

"I suspect Farage will feel he came out of that pretty well."

Brand seemed to be sulking after that chap challenged him to stand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mary Creagh tried too hard at the start, then ran out of steam.

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

According to Twitter, Farage has been on QT 17 times, only beaten by Dimbleby himself.

The BBC needs to stop with this right wing bias.

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By *hris n AnnaCouple
over a year ago

edinburghish

"I suspect Farage will feel he came out of that pretty well."
yes he kept his cool while brand got frustrated

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Agreed about Farage. I'm no fan of his policies, although they've probably changed again as I typed this, but I can see his charisma and he does sound like he's talking sense of some points against labour conservative politicians who seem to be too careful about what they say and have pre-prepared answers.

I'm going for a shower after typing that."

I think what the established parties have failed to grasp is that Farage is not an idiot, he is an astute politician who has picked on a policy issue which they are too scared to deal with directly and as a result he is appealing to a lot of people. Both Labour and Conservatives sent out a couple of lightweights to this programme who rolled out the party line and Farage, without having to say too much has come across as a very credible alternative. I think it is time they started taking him seriously.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"According to Twitter, Farage has been on QT 17 times, only beaten by Dimbleby himself.

The BBC needs to stop with this right wing bias. "

The BBC being described as right wing biased, I guess that is a first!

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By *anchestercubMan
over a year ago

manchester & NI

"According to Twitter, Farage has been on QT 17 times, only beaten by Dimbleby himself.

The BBC needs to stop with this right wing bias.

The BBC being described as right wing biased, I guess that is a first!"

It doesn't fit into the right wing spin but that doesn't mean it isn't true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"According to Twitter, Farage has been on QT 17 times, only beaten by Dimbleby himself.

The BBC needs to stop with this right wing bias.

The BBC being described as right wing biased, I guess that is a first!

It doesn't fit into the right wing spin but that doesn't mean it isn't true. "

I suspect he is invited so often because they want to be the programme that trips him up rather than because they support his views. Not a terribly successful strategy thus far.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

Cannock

"I suspect Farage will feel he came out of that pretty well. yes he kept his cool while brand got frustrated"

Thought Farage gave a very good account of himself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"According to Twitter, Farage has been on QT 17 times, only beaten by Dimbleby himself.

The BBC needs to stop with this right wing bias.

The BBC being described as right wing biased, I guess that is a first!"

why is it always full of left wingers shouting down people like farage .

Harriot Harmen has been on there 33 times so dont know where these facts come from

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And Brand made the usual arse of himself. There are times his use of English is about as good as Del Boy's French. Had to be shouted down by one female panelist for continuously interrupting others. Red faced apology and kept very quiet after that.

Did manage to get his sound bite in about a "Poundland Enoch Powell". Only problem I saw with that was a fair chunk of the audience seemed to think Enoch Powell is being proved right. (Not saying he is/was myself...was audience opinion)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The lady MP was a typical leftie arsehole.

Politics is about heated debate. typical im offended idiot.

Brand comes across with some good points but need to do it in a controlled manner like Farage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I suspect Farage will feel he came out of that pretty well. yes he kept his cool while brand got frustrated

Thought Farage gave a very good account of himself."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have our head in our hands watching this, I don't know who the labour representative is but she isn't doing herself or labour any favours

one could equally say that about the other 2 parties represented..

wonder if the lib dooms are peeved for being dropped..? "

That is a feeling they need to get used to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A mate posted this article just now on FB, my ribs are hurting and my cheeks ache i'm laughing so much! just had to share it ......

Russell Brand and Nigel Farage on Question Time means politics has reached ‘peak shit’

by John Higgs Author of The KLF: Chaos, Magic and the Band Who Burned a Million Pounds.

Another good example is Boris Johnson. He was born 100% shit. He can basically do and say anything he likes because, whatever happens, he will always remain 100% shit.

entertaining!

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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago

North West

Sounded like it was an entertaining show. I just tried to watch it on BBC iPlayer but for some reason the content is "blocked."

I am out of the UK so will probably have to wait until I get back.

Had to laugh at the comment up there somewhere about BBC right wing bias??? Never heard that one before.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I nearly cried laughing at the idea that Dimbleby is biased to the Tories. he is old school BBC and as leftie as they come. I have been watching QT for a very long time and I can assure people that he allows all sorts of interrupting from the Labour people and tells the others to shut up if they answer back.

And yes I have been in the audience on 3 occasions and asked a question. I think it is a great piece of political engagement despite Dimbleby (who is a disgrace). And if you watch the general reactions by audiences over a period of time you get a very good pointer as to who wins elections.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I nearly cried laughing at the idea that Dimbleby is biased to the Tories. he is old school BBC and as leftie as they come. I have been watching QT for a very long time and I can assure people that he allows all sorts of interrupting from the Labour people and tells the others to shut up if they answer back.

Despite Dimbleby not really chairing the programme last night, I thought it was a very good episode. People criticise the likes of Russel Brand and other comedians being invited onto the panel, I think it is brilliant as it encourages a broader audience and gets people involved. Would be interested to see what the viewing figures were like.

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By *iverpool LoverMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"And Brand made the usual arse of himself. There are times his use of English is about as good as Del Boy's French. Had to be shouted down by one female panelist for continuously interrupting others. Red faced apology and kept very quiet after that.

dont know what programme you was watching but Russell brand didn't make arse of him self at all.

He made some interesting points I thought.

Hes right about one thing if the ordinary public stopped focusing on and blaming immigration for everything and started to focus on the wealthy and big buisness that exploit loop holes and get out of paying their share of taxes, the country and the people in it of lesser wealth will see and feel a vast difference in their lifes.

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

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dont know what programme you was watching but Russell brand didn't make arse of him self at all.

He made some interesting points I thought.

Brand did look a bit daft when the guy in the audience with the stick challenged him to stand for election and Brand said....."I'm scared i'll turn into one of them".

That was just a spineless cop out and thought he made an arse of himself there.

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over a year ago

I liked the program and why not, russel might as well go for prime minister, it cant be any worse what Cameroon done to the country lol

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over a year ago

Are you being serious? You really think that Russell Brand could be Prime Minister? That's he's a statesman and someone who could lead the UK and represent us on the world stage?

And what has Cameron done that is so bad? He's pretty left-wing for a Conservative and been in a coalition with a very left-wing party in the Lib Dems.

He has managed to get the UK into recovery which is more than France or Italy have managed.

Russell Brand wants a revolution, so he says. Into what? He hates Capitalism, in spite of his massive wealth that he does not seem keen to give away, yet what is the alternative? Communism? That worked so well in the Eastern Bloc didn't it? Not!

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over a year ago

"I liked the program and why not, russel might as well go for prime minister, it cant be any worse what Cameroon done to the country lol

** Palm / Forehead **

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over a year ago

"Are you being serious? You really think that Russell Brand could be Prime Minister? That's he's a statesman and someone who could lead the UK and represent us on the world stage?

And what has Cameron done that is so bad? He's pretty left-wing for a Conservative and been in a coalition with a very left-wing party in the Lib Dems.

He has managed to get the UK into recovery which is more than France or Italy have managed.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"I liked the program and why not, russel might as well go for prime minister, it cant be any worse what Cameroon done to the country lol

I don't think he wants to be Prime Minister

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By *atietvsheffTV/TS
over a year ago

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Thought Brand was a total fool, his babble was of a scaremonger with half baked facts out to grab a moments headline, he showed he hasn't hot the courage of his conviction to out up or shut up, he was like a hooligan hiding behind a big mob throwing missiles which he thought made himself look and feel clever and big, I really liked him before last night but he went down in my estimation. The editor sat beside him was much more reasoned and spoke with knowledge and had real gravity and presence, she listened and answered not side stepped as Brand did......... Brand reminded me of people you have seen in films in the dark ages who labeled someone a witch, then without evidence and they were rounded up and hung. "Just because I have a few bob now" WTF does that mean, you do not have to be an aggressive passive or belittle fellow panelists in a sexist and bullying way. As for Farage, he did nothing wrong and handles himself in his usual smug way but he kept his dignity and failed to rise to Brands anarchial taunts.

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over a year ago

"Thought Brand was a total fool, his babble was of a scaremonger with half baked facts out to grab a moments headline, he showed he hasn't hot the courage of his conviction to out up or shut up, he was like a hooligan hiding behind a big mob throwing missiles which he thought made himself look and feel clever and big, I really liked him before last night but he went down in my estimation. The editor sat beside him was much more reasoned and spoke with knowledge and had real gravity and presence, she listened and answered not side stepped as Brand did......... Brand reminded me of people you have seen in films in the dark ages who labeled someone a witch, then without evidence and they were rounded up and hung. "Just because I have a few bob now" WTF does that mean, you do not have to be an aggressive passive or belittle fellow panelists in a sexist and bullying way. As for Farage, he did nothing wrong and handles himself in his usual smug way but he kept his dignity and failed to rise to Brands anarchial taunts. "

I agree, so eager was Brand to strike a blow to Farage he ended up making him look good! And when challenged by the guy with a walking stick he just buckled. But it was still good for politics to have him on.

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over a year ago

Farage didn't produce any errors as he harlu spoke! 2 policies , grammar schools and capped immigration??? Sorry was an awful QT and the Tory made me laugh saying she joined politics after oversea aid work then said she was in business before politics?? There again she probably had a bet going on eh!!!!

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over a year ago

"Are you being serious? You really think that Russell Brand could be Prime Minister? That's he's a statesman and someone who could lead the UK and represent us on the world stage?

And what has Cameron done that is so bad? He's pretty left-wing for a Conservative and been in a coalition with a very left-wing party in the Lib Dems.

He has managed to get the UK into recovery which is more than France or Italy have managed.

Socialism isn't communism, though China is doing ok for herself? Sweden is probably the most left wing country I've been too and was lovely but hey ho

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By *entaur_UKMan
over a year ago

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"Farage didn't produce any errors as he harlu spoke! 2 policies , grammar schools and capped immigration??? Sorry was an awful QT and the Tory made me laugh saying she joined politics after oversea aid work then said she was in business before politics?? There again she probably had a bet going on eh!!!!"

Did you leave the room when Farage talked about the Nhs then? I thought Farage talked plenty and the panel can only answer the questions they are given by the audience.

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over a year ago

Mostly more Punch and Judy ... Brand had a very strong start and I felt he made a very interesting point regarding the focus being on the people who have nothing instead of the small group who seemingly have everything.

There was a certain element of fear-mongering - but if reading the forums is an indicator, he's not alone in feeling the way he does about Farage, lobbies, corporatism et al.

He's clearly a fan of Chomsky, Naomi Klein, Jeremy Scahill etc...

Is there a genuine choice? Is there a party that won't give in to big business, close the loopholes they benefit from and present a strategy which will reduce social inequality?

I'm not sure either.

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over a year ago

"Socialism isn't communism, though China is doing ok for herself? Sweden is probably the most left wing country I've been too and was lovely but hey ho"

I am with you on that. OK I am a full on Conservative and proud about it but I see nothing wrong with the aims of Socialism as such its how it is applied and all the crap that APPEARS to go with it. (IMHO). I believe in a Caring Capitalism (care for those in need funded by the better off) which shares the same ambitions as Socialism but has a different answer to achieve it. Conservatives believe in the freedom to better oneself but contribute for those in need. Socialism seems to draw people down to the lowest level to achieve some perceived as necessary 'equality'. By spreading income across everyone they believe you reduce the number of those in need.

Communism takes that a stage further where the State has total control of everything and dictates from the centre outwards. It should really be labelled 'Centralism'. As was observed under Communism everyone is equal just some are more equal than others. It is no coincidence that every Communist state has a history of mass murder, pogroms, lack of justice and zero Human Rights.

China has all the hallmarks of a totalitarian Communist state but has rather cleverly adopted pretty mainstream Capitalism to achieve its aims. Not sure too many Chinese are seeing great personal wealth though.

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over a year ago

"According to Twitter, Farage has been on QT 17 times, only beaten by Dimbleby himself.

The BBC needs to stop with this right wing bias. "

Is it a right wing bias? - or is he just getting lots of airtime so people can watch and hopefully make an informed choice whether to vote for what is essentially a new party with new policies?

I don't know the answer - just pondering! Xx

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"According to Twitter, Farage has been on QT 17 times, only beaten by Dimbleby himself.

The BBC needs to stop with this right wing bias.

Is it a right wing bias? - or is he just getting lots of airtime so people can watch and hopefully make an informed choice whether to vote for what is essentially a new party with new policies?

I don't know the answer - just pondering! Xx"

I'm sure he helps with rating too... Whether people agree with him or not...people do tune in. Same with someone like Brand too, I guess.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

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"According to Twitter, Farage has been on QT 17 times, only beaten by Dimbleby himself.

The BBC needs to stop with this right wing bias.

Is it a right wing bias? - or is he just getting lots of airtime so people can watch and hopefully make an informed choice whether to vote for what is essentially a new party with new policies?

I don't know the answer - just pondering! Xx"

UKIP has been around for 20 years. It takes times of austerity like this for minority parties that appear to have a message for the hard pressed person in the street to gain ground and rise.

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over a year ago

"According to Twitter, Farage has been on QT 17 times, only beaten by Dimbleby himself.

The BBC needs to stop with this right wing bias.

Is it a right wing bias? - or is he just getting lots of airtime so people can watch and hopefully make an informed choice whether to vote for what is essentially a new party with new policies?

I don't know the answer - just pondering! Xx

UKIP has been around for 20 years. It takes times of austerity like this for minority parties that appear to have a message for the hard pressed person in the street to gain ground and rise.

That's why I said 'essentially' a new party hun - as they've only recently gained the attention of the masses. Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The BBC Right Wing ? Lol , that's like accusing Hitler of been a Communist !

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over a year ago

"Socialism isn't communism, though China is doing ok for herself? Sweden is probably the most left wing country I've been too and was lovely but hey ho

Fuck me we agree on summat

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over a year ago

Fuck me we agree on summat

There you go see. You're still a Leftie though .

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over a year ago

"The BBC Right Wing ? Lol , that's like accusing Hitler of been a Communist !"

Or saying Ed Balls is an economist ...

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over a year ago

Did you leave the room when Farage talked about the Nhs then? I thought Farage talked plenty and the panel can only answer the questions they are given by the audience."

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Did you leave the room when Farage talked about the Nhs then? I thought Farage talked plenty and the panel can only answer the questions they are given by the audience."

The nhs full of immigrants? Other than he wouldn't privatise it what did he say?? He went on but said little of substance as I recall, please tell me what great policy insight did I miss?

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over a year ago

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

"Socialism isn't communism, though China is doing ok for herself? Sweden is probably the most left wing country I've been too and was lovely but hey ho

Fuck me we agree on summat

we're not a capitalist state ... no more than we are a communist state .... capitalism is an economic/political system where a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit with NO, ZERO, NADA interference in the "free market" by the state...... we are a monetarist state .... this means that the government control the amount of money in circulation by strict means such as interest rates, commercial laws taxes etc...... the lines are blurred globally now so this talk of us being capitalist and them being communist doesn't hold water any more, it's that simple these days.

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over a year ago

"I liked the program and why not, russel might as well go for prime minister, it cant be any worse what Cameroon done to the country lol

I don't think he wants to be Prime Minister

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I think your right there to lol

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

soz, typo .... should read "it's not that simple these days" at the end ...

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