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"I work for a living - ergo I am working class - simples!! I do sound a teensy bit posh though - I blame my mum!! xx" fine by me, I love a posh bird lol xx | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class " working class......There was me thinking this country had moved on. Working class is that anyone who works? | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class " I'm working class and also a professional. | |||
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"I have to work so working class. Although I have a family coat of arms and such....very minor though. " Same here! | |||
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"I dislike the way the words amateur and professional are misused. Amateur tends to be used as a term to describe someone who is either a novice or not very goid at sonething rather than the correct meaning which is simply that what it is they are doing us a hobby or unpaid i.e. Not their profession. The word professional comes from the word profession. Here's an example. The late, great Sir Patrick Moore was an amateur astronomer, but was a professional TV presenter. Now nobody would consider him to be unskilled at observing the stars - in fact NASA even consulted him on their Apollo program. So you can be workibg class, middle class or even an upper class professional." my god lol, in this case just about anyone is a professional, nope an example of a professional is a doctor, a surgeon, or a teacher. | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class " You can still be working class and professional. | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class You can still be working class and professional." Yes this is very true...we are all the same, no different and no better. | |||
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"Professional usually equates to snobbery on here (imho) I'm a housewife....I wiill work when I find something that suits...... Never thought of myself as anything other than normal working class...." I'm far from being a snob. But I have no problem saying that I'm a professional when asked. If it makes people feel uncomfortable, I won't hide it to make them feel better. | |||
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"Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society. " This describes myself. | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class " We are working class and common as muck and very proud of it | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class " Baby, I come from a shithole in North London, so working class it's painful, but I've worked my nuts off to be somebody because I want my son to have a nice life, not walk around _aiting to be shot etc, so I'm kinda pretend middle class now, cause when I'm too old, which aint yet, I can't watch my boys back. I actually reached the epitome of my profession which is fucking hilarious if you knew me, I've advised some fairly major political players.... if only they knew eh | |||
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"Not sure what the difference is - I work for a living, but that fact that I do my work at a desk wearing a shirt and tie doesn't make me better than someone who does theirs in a factory, or on a building site, or in a school, or anywhere else... " | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class Baby, I come from a shithole in North London, so working class it's painful, but I've worked my nuts off to be somebody because I want my son to have a nice life, not walk around _aiting to be shot etc, so I'm kinda pretend middle class now, cause when I'm too old, which aint yet, I can't watch my boys back. I actually reached the epitome of my profession which is fucking hilarious if you knew me, I've advised some fairly major political players.... if only they knew eh " Lol and looking at the state of our politics we know how that turned out! | |||
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"If we work then surely that's working class we are both just that and yes do own our own business and are busy lives but doesn't make us any better than others " This is me & Kim, we are self employed in our own business, we travel all over the world but wouldn't class ourselves into a category. I come from West Ham & Kim from Basildon so you couldn't get anymore common if you try, one day we are at a Ministers dinner party and the next at a friends for a curry and a pint...both as enjoyable. You label yourself in life to fit in and be in a gang/group which is sad because in this day and age most people are the same, with some etiquette and a bit of spit and polish you can fit in anywhere. | |||
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"Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society. " this hits it spot on, been a professional has nothing to do with whatever class you wish to label people. | |||
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"People who label themselves as professionals often lack imagination and have a desire to classify everyone they see - after all what the heck does it matter when you've got no clothes on? Im no policeman, but I've got a truncheon, Im no nurse, but it you like I have something long that'll make you feel better etc. etc. " I must be unimaginative then but I feel no desire to label anyone. And isn't stating that professed professionals have no imagination actually falling into the category of labelling someone? | |||
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"Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society. this hits it spot on, been a professional has nothing to do with whatever class you wish to label people." We are both professionals but are very much working class. | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class " 'Own up' suggests you think people might be reluctant to admit it without prompting- unsure why? ...just be proud of who you are and don't compare yourself to others | |||
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"I'm a professional working class person. I come from working class stock and have a professional qualification... there is a difference between being professional and thinking you are upper class...." | |||
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"I'm a professional working class person. I come from working class stock and have a professional qualification... there is a difference between being professional and thinking you are upper class...." OK Rupert! | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class Baby, I come from a shithole in North London, so working class it's painful, but I've worked my nuts off to be somebody because I want my son to have a nice life, not walk around _aiting to be shot etc, so I'm kinda pretend middle class now, cause when I'm too old, which aint yet, I can't watch my boys back. I actually reached the epitome of my profession which is fucking hilarious if you knew me, I've advised some fairly major political players.... if only they knew eh Lol and looking at the state of our politics we know how that turned out! " Hey, they didn't have to take the advice | |||
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"Fyi I buy hovis and throw away the heels....Middle class exuberance! Oh and its dairylea on it NOT cheap laughing cow! " dairylea how common nothing but philly here | |||
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"the funniest thing I ever saw on a profile was "if you don't know what professional means, don't contact us" so I didn't!" Probably a professional nob head | |||
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"Fyi I buy hovis and throw away the heels....Middle class exuberance! Oh and its dairylea on it NOT cheap laughing cow! dairylea how common nothing but philly here " Yip I've been found out, a wanna be middle classer | |||
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"Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society. this hits it spot on, been a professional has nothing to do with whatever class you wish to label people." . That's bollocks!. Professionals require a remington shaver as a walkie talkie. A manly chest rug. And a fuck off smoking white Capri with stripes up the side. And every professional knows it | |||
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"Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society. " Yep sums it up pretty well... | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class " Isn't class a state of mind? | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class I'm working class and also a professional. " Me too x | |||
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"i get made for the job i do. That makes me a professional. Class does not come into it." that makes you employed, the job is what makes it professional not a class, if you have had to study, train, qualify, through independant bodies, that makes you a professional, simply because you work doesnt, a surgeon is a professional, a line worker in a chicken factory isnt. | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class " I'm just class. | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class " You can be a professional and working class- One of our group of friends we've known since school is a Barrister, and other is high up in Management while one or two are time served tradesmen. "A profession is a vocation founded upon specialized educational training, the purpose of which is to supply objective counsel and service to others, for a direct and definite compensation, wholly apart from expectation of other business gain." Isnt that most of us who have a job? | |||
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" Isnt that most of us who have a job?" No. Most people do not have specialised educational training, and most people don't supply objective counsel and service to others. I'm a journalist and a creative - I don't do those things. | |||
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"Fyi I buy hovis and throw away the heels....Middle class exuberance! Oh and its dairylea on it NOT cheap laughing cow! " You throw away the best bit!!! It soaks up dripping like no one's business! You don't know your born... | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class You can be a professional and working class- One of our group of friends we've known since school is a Barrister, and other is high up in Management while one or two are time served tradesmen. "A profession is a vocation founded upon specialized educational training, the purpose of which is to supply objective counsel and service to others, for a direct and definite compensation, wholly apart from expectation of other business gain." Isnt that most of us who have a job?" Theres a difference between having/choosing a profession and been a professional. | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class I'm just class. " yep, first class, judging by your pics x | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class You can be a professional and working class- One of our group of friends we've known since school is a Barrister, and other is high up in Management while one or two are time served tradesmen. "A profession is a vocation founded upon specialized educational training, the purpose of which is to supply objective counsel and service to others, for a direct and definite compensation, wholly apart from expectation of other business gain." Isnt that most of us who have a job?" .. But professional also means getting paid for the things you do ie professional athlete, compared to amateur. Putting "professional' in a sex site, makes me wonder if they're hinting something else. | |||
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"I had no idea there were so many people out there who strange issues with the word professional. There seems a slight irony in the labelling of people who use the word as judgemental, thinking they're better than others etc. Still, another fascinating insight into the minefield of profile writing, where literally every phrase used will upset and exclude a certain group of people for one reason or another. " It is easy, look at profiles that look good then ctrl+c ctrl+v. Believe me, people do it! | |||
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"one deffinition from the Oxford English Dictionary. engaged in a spacified activity as one's main paid occupation. There are other which define the qualification example. " thats the definition of "profession". | |||
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"Morning all I am an upper class carpenter and proud " Does that mean you only work above ground floor ? Professional is a strange term - I've never understood the need to put letters after your name. To me the proof is in the pudding - it's how they conduct themselves. That holds for me here and in the real world. | |||
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"Morning all I am an upper class carpenter and proud Does that mean you only work above ground floor ? Professional is a strange term - I've never understood the need to put letters after your name. To me the proof is in the pudding - it's how they conduct themselves. That holds for me here and in the real world. " yes beautiful I always take the lift to my higher echelons | |||
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" Maybe it's time we concentrate on being Professional Human Beings first, and worry about the detail of class after. -Mr." Very succinct. Fully agree. This is Real Life. At times, I do wonder if I am back in the School Playground - on the Internet generally. | |||
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"Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society. " This It has nothing to do with class or wealth. In this sense it is being used as a noun. It can also be used as an adjective, as in, a professional window cleaner/footballer/painter. In this sense it means that one pursues that profession as one's main source of income. Many people confuse the two uses of the word, and often _iew its use in the first context as implying superiority or snobbery. I've even seen people use the inverted snobbery of stating that they won't meet anyone who describes themselves as a professional. | |||
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"I am amused by the ones who describe themselves as "professionals" and at the same time seem incapable of proper spelling, punctuation or expression in what they write." what on earth has that got to do with anything, it is quite easy to be a proffesional and not be able to spell, for eg, wayne rooney is a professional footballer but has the intelligence of a pea, you are mistaking been a professional with class and/or intelligence they have nothing to do with each other. | |||
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"I am amused by the ones who describe themselves as "professionals" and at the same time seem incapable of proper spelling, punctuation or expression in what they write. what on earth has that got to do with anything, it is quite easy to be a proffesional and not be able to spell, for eg, wayne rooney is a professional footballer but has the intelligence of a pea, you are mistaking been a professional with class and/or intelligence they have nothing to do with each other." No they aren't. You're confusing its use as an adjective, with its use as a noun. Even if the the noun being described is missing, as in "he's a professional" (footballer), the noun footballer is implicit from the context, and thus the word "professional" is being used as an adjective. The posts above explain it clearly. When used as a noun, it implies a level of education, which would at the very least, suggest they could use a spell checker | |||
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"I am amused by the ones who describe themselves as "professionals" and at the same time seem incapable of proper spelling, punctuation or expression in what they write. what on earth has that got to do with anything, it is quite easy to be a proffesional and not be able to spell, for eg, wayne rooney is a professional footballer but has the intelligence of a pea, you are mistaking been a professional with class and/or intelligence they have nothing to do with each other. No they aren't. You're confusing its use as an adjective, with its use as a noun. Even if the the noun being described is missing, as in "he's a professional" (footballer), the noun footballer is implicit from the context, and thus the word "professional" is being used as an adjective. The posts above explain it clearly. When used as a noun, it implies a level of education, which would at the very least, suggest they could use a spell checker" when used on a profile they are referring to there job status not intelligence, or at least the many I have had conversation with are referring to that, please read the whole thread to understand where my posts are coming from, class/intelligence has nothing to do with been a proffesional, however it has a lot to do with been professional. | |||
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"I am amused by the ones who describe themselves as "professionals" and at the same time seem incapable of proper spelling, punctuation or expression in what they write. what on earth has that got to do with anything, it is quite easy to be a proffesional and not be able to spell, for eg, wayne rooney is a professional footballer but has the intelligence of a pea, you are mistaking been a professional with class and/or intelligence they have nothing to do with each other. No they aren't. You're confusing its use as an adjective, with its use as a noun. Even if the the noun being described is missing, as in "he's a professional" (footballer), the noun footballer is implicit from the context, and thus the word "professional" is being used as an adjective. The posts above explain it clearly. When used as a noun, it implies a level of education, which would at the very least, suggest they could use a spell checker when used on a profile they are referring to there job status not intelligence, or at least the many I have had conversation with are referring to that, please read the whole thread to understand where my posts are coming from, class/intelligence has nothing to do with been a proffesional, however it has a lot to do with been professional. " I think you should read the posts properly and do some research into the meaning and usage of the word | |||
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"I am amused by the ones who describe themselves as "professionals" and at the same time seem incapable of proper spelling, punctuation or expression in what they write. what on earth has that got to do with anything, it is quite easy to be a proffesional and not be able to spell, for eg, wayne rooney is a professional footballer but has the intelligence of a pea, you are mistaking been a professional with class and/or intelligence they have nothing to do with each other. No they aren't. You're confusing its use as an adjective, with its use as a noun. Even if the the noun being described is missing, as in "he's a professional" (footballer), the noun footballer is implicit from the context, and thus the word "professional" is being used as an adjective. The posts above explain it clearly. When used as a noun, it implies a level of education, which would at the very least, suggest they could use a spell checker when used on a profile they are referring to there job status not intelligence, or at least the many I have had conversation with are referring to that, please read the whole thread to understand where my posts are coming from, class/intelligence has nothing to do with been a proffesional, however it has a lot to do with been professional. I think you should read the posts properly and do some research into the meaning and usage of the word" I have read the posts from the beginning thank you, and I fully understand what the word means, you could just simply understand that its a fun forum on a swingers site, and people will have differing _iews on subjects, whether you like them or not it doesnt make your _iew any more valid or correct than someone elses, its not your way or no way. | |||
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"There's a few professional bullshitters on this site too lol" This unfortunately can be true. | |||
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"Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't seem to grasp the point of this post. What difference does "class" have anything to do with anything the line is very blurred anyway and last I looked I didn't need to sleep in my class nor communicate only with a sector of the population. I prefer chat with people who are different from me. More fun!" it doesnt thats the whole point. | |||
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"Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't seem to grasp the point of this post. What difference does "class" have anything to do with anything the line is very blurred anyway and last I looked I didn't need to sleep in my class nor communicate only with a sector of the population. I prefer chat with people who are different from me. More fun! it doesnt thats the whole point." Fair play hence me asking | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class " Read our profile ref: claiming to be professional puts us off Working class and damn proud | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class Read our profile ref: claiming to be professional puts us off Working class and damn proud " So how about a Professional Engineer....?? A member of a professional body, yet working in engineering...?? I don't think labels like Working Class or similar, really work, these days. | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class Read our profile ref: claiming to be professional puts us off Working class and damn proud So how about a Professional Engineer....?? A member of a professional body, yet working in engineering...?? I don't think labels like Working Class or similar, really work, these days." What about them? Does there job effect who they are? No. The only reason for putting it on your profile is the snobbish belief that it makes you a better person. Its that snobbery that puts us off. Drop that claim to being a different class and we are more than happy to meet without expecting them to look down their nose at us | |||
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"Professions have a self regulating body, involve individual post grad training and a requirement to be a member of the regulating body. That's what I mean when I use professional but by no means does it describe my upbringing, my politics or where I see myself in what should be a classless society. " | |||
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"thank goodness for these types of threads, the thought of the different classes having sexual relations with each other scares the bejesus out of me.... smelling salts anyone ?" Depends... are they from Harrods or the pound shop? | |||
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"were working class and proud of it but it seems most people on here are professional so come on own up who else on here is working class " Dont really believe in class as thats just a way for people to think they are better than others. But if we had to be pigeon holed we are definately very working class | |||
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"thank goodness for these types of threads, the thought of the different classes having sexual relations with each other scares the bejesus out of me.... smelling salts anyone ? Depends... are they from Harrods or the pound shop?" Galeries Lafayette, Paris, have you been in Harrods lately... good lord, they were selling laminated type shopping bags for the masses... | |||
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"thank goodness for these types of threads, the thought of the different classes having sexual relations with each other scares the bejesus out of me.... smelling salts anyone ? Depends... are they from Harrods or the pound shop? Galeries Lafayette, Paris, have you been in Harrods lately... good lord, they were selling laminated type shopping bags for the masses... " (shakes head in disgust) | |||
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