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"I think you would struggle to find a single show from that era that was not at least one of those. Question for you. Are we too sensitive today or where they to insensitive back then? " They still believed that white and British equalled supreme and we should be grateful that we had been colonised. Racism isn't insensitivity. | |||
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" Racism isn't insensitivity" nor was "queer bashing" | |||
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"I think you would struggle to find a single show from that era that was not at least one of those. Question for you. Are we too sensitive today or where they to insensitive back then? They still believed that white and British equalled supreme and we should be grateful that we had been colonised. Racism isn't insensitivity. " sadly some still do... | |||
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"Ahh, I remember Mixed Blessings, Love Thy Neighbour, The Black & White Minstrel Show, Mind Your Language etc etc. There will be a lot of people watching it tonight and wishing things hadn't changed. I'll be watching the Sci-Fi special on BBC2 later. " I'm watching the Sci-Fi special too (I'll bump that thread) but will start with this. | |||
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"I could be very wrong. But wasn't mind your language one of the few multicultural shows on then? Didn't it show educated people from different cultures just trying to learn English? It's been a long time since I saw an episode. So forgive me if I am wrong. " It was multi-cultural and I remember at the time just being grateful that black people were on the television. It was also hugely patronising and stereotyped each ethnicity. One of the biggest changes on television at the moment is so subtle that I wonder if people have even noticed where we are seeing more black and minority ethnic people? A prize to the person who can answer where BME people are being represented? | |||
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"I could be very wrong. But wasn't mind your language one of the few multicultural shows on then? Didn't it show educated people from different cultures just trying to learn English? It's been a long time since I saw an episode. So forgive me if I am wrong. " It had a Chinese woman who kept quoting from Maos Little Red Book with a stereotypically faux Chinese accent, an Indian guy with a turban, and a stacked French au pair. It was stereotype TV, and I suspect you would find it uncomfortable viewing these days. | |||
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"Ahh I stand corrected. I was more into buck Rogers Biddy biddy biddy. Blakes 7 And godzilla movies. Kiss chase And seeing how many packets of space dust I could eat back then. Sorry " I met one of Blakes 7 recently - she looked fantastic and reminded me that black people did have roles back then. | |||
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"Sorry all I can think about now is Wilma deering from buck Rogers. But yes you are right. Also the chap in rising damp always showed rigby up for the small minded idiot he was. " Yes he did. Gorgeous, impeccable manners, well educated and living in a hovel with Rigby as landlord. | |||
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"some of it was racist and sexist I agree, but I do think people are much too sensitive these days. " In what way are we too sensitive? | |||
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"some of it was racist and sexist I agree, but I do think people are much too sensitive these days. In what way are we too sensitive? " Because you should find racial stereotypes funny, apparently. All I remember watching those programmes (and remember I was like, 10 years old) was they were dull and unfunny. If a 10 year old finds these programmes dull and unfunny I have often wondered since then who they were written for. | |||
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"Sorry all I can think about now is Wilma deering from buck Rogers. But yes you are right. Also the chap in rising damp always showed rigby up for the small minded idiot he was. " Yeah most people thought rising damp was funny, they didn't take it quite so seriously. | |||
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"some of it was racist and sexist I agree, but I do think people are much too sensitive these days. In what way are we too sensitive? Because you should find racial stereotypes funny, apparently. All I remember watching those programmes (and remember I was like, 10 years old) was they were dull and unfunny. If a 10 year old finds these programmes dull and unfunny I have often wondered since then who they were written for." No, you weren't supposed to find it funny, some of it was funny, some of it wasn't. Same as any type of comedy. | |||
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"Right, that's it. I'm throwing something at the TV. " It's a really good reminder of why I am still happy to describe myself as a feminist. | |||
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"Personally I never liked any of the shows back then. Can't stand any of the stuff you pointed out. However the single biggest show that got on my tits wad some mothers do have them. Frustrating and rubbish. Ironically was probably one of the few shows that was not racist or any of the above. Just took the piss out of an idiot. " For michael crawford to do some of those stunts on that show was no mean feat Idiot or not he was still A good actor and performed the role Very well as he did later In his career In phantom of the opera. | |||
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"I think you would struggle to find a single show from that era that was not at least one of those. Question for you. Are we too sensitive today or where they to insensitive back then? They still believed that white and British equalled supreme and we should be grateful that we had been colonised. Racism isn't insensitivity. " they? establishment? the BBC? I don't believe that we all held the same opinion. Growing up in an a country formerly a British Colony we celebrated the independence of that Country, we didn't consider the people of those countries as anything but people that had invited us to come and help work with them and live amongst them. | |||
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"I think you would struggle to find a single show from that era that was not at least one of those. Question for you. Are we too sensitive today or where they to insensitive back then? They still believed that white and British equalled supreme and we should be grateful that we had been colonised. Racism isn't insensitivity. they? establishment? the BBC? I don't believe that we all held the same opinion. Growing up in an a country formerly a British Colony we celebrated the independence of that Country, we didn't consider the people of those countries as anything but people that had invited us to come and help work with them and live amongst them." Of course not everyone holds or held the same opinion. Coming from a colony and being a person of colour I remember the 70s as the time of being the only black child in the school and being touched to see if the colour comes off. My parents struggled to get work, rents for a one roomed bed-sit for all of us were ridiculously high and we were very poor but I didn't appreciate that at the time. It is only as I have got older and can look back I can see how much of a struggle life was in the 70s. | |||
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"The really scary stuff now - PSAs!! " Do you remember the locked in the old fridge one? That one used to scare me as old fridges were out there waiting to get you. | |||
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"The really scary stuff now - PSAs!! Do you remember the locked in the old fridge one? That one used to scare me as old fridges were out there waiting to get you. " Not that one, but the one with Death popping up freaked me out. | |||
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"The really scary stuff now - PSAs!! Do you remember the locked in the old fridge one? That one used to scare me as old fridges were out there waiting to get you. Not that one, but the one with Death popping up freaked me out." Then there was the playing in the quarry one. Living in London I didn't come across many quarries but the whole countryside was presented as really dangerous. | |||
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"I cant believe some of the TV shows on back then " It's pretty awful isn't it? | |||
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"Now to watch sci-fi and then return for the last quarter hour of this on plus 1 in an hour. " Ditto. Time to leave the 70s behind us and travel to the stars | |||
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"The really scary stuff now - PSAs!! Do you remember the locked in the old fridge one? That one used to scare me as old fridges were out there waiting to get you. Not that one, but the one with Death popping up freaked me out. Then there was the playing in the quarry one. Living in London I didn't come across many quarries but the whole countryside was presented as really dangerous. " the one where jimmy gets zapped | |||
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"To me it's welcome to the 70's " Be very glad you grew up in the 80s and 90s. They were bad enough but nothing like the attitudes of the 70s. | |||
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"Back for the last section. What will they dig up now? " As long as it's not the bodies or Funky's lampshades from the time capsule... | |||
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"Back for the last section. What will they dig up now? As long as it's not the bodies or Funky's lampshades from the time capsule..." I fear it is rather worse than that. | |||
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"Back for the last section. What will they dig up now? As long as it's not the bodies or Funky's lampshades from the time capsule... I fear it is rather worse than that. " | |||
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"Back for the last section. What will they dig up now? As long as it's not the bodies or Funky's lampshades from the time capsule... I fear it is rather worse than that. " A show I never saw, Curry and Chips, with a scene on rather it is better to be raped or shot, especially i you're being raped by a "nig nog". | |||
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"Back for the last section. What will they dig up now? As long as it's not the bodies or Funky's lampshades from the time capsule... I fear it is rather worse than that. A show I never saw, Curry and Chips, with a scene on rather it is better to be raped or shot, especially i you're being raped by a "nig nog". " That's bad. I'd still rather my bodies weren't found though. | |||
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"A handy reminder when people say it was better back then. It is the past and there will be things that we do now that our children and grandchildren will find offensive. " Sadly I know people who still use the terms "nig nogs" and "coons" and aren't in the least bit embarrassed or concerned. | |||
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"I watched a lot of those shows in the 70s and they are cringeworthy now. Rising Damp and love thy neighbour attempted to challenge the racist elements. However, the one thing not mentioned here is the use of transgenderism for laughs that has been going on since I can remember and is still used today. There are programmes which use TG in the same way as race or homosexuality used to be used. But,when the programme makers get round to stopping abusing TG I'm sure they will find another minority to laugh at." Sadly, I think you are probably right. | |||
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