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"In this day of big money and superstars that the sligthtest tap they roll around as if they been shot. What players do you think couldnt play in this age of football? I.E. Norman hunter Chopper harris Tommy smith Graham souness?" Proper players not like a lot of them today ! | |||
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"Always remember that iconic pic of him! Dave mackay lol!" Yeah, the Billy Bremner pic | |||
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"Always remember that iconic pic of him! Dave mackay lol! Yeah, the Billy Bremner pic " | |||
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"Going to see the real hard men tomorrow at Twickenham they don't backchat the refs of pretend to be hurt except when they bite into fake blood capsules on the pitch " Oh yes but whose blood was it | |||
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"Going to see the real hard men tomorrow at Twickenham they don't backchat the refs of pretend to be hurt except when they bite into fake blood capsules on the pitch " Bless um lol I have heard them backchat anyway ! Not that i watch or listen to rugby much ! | |||
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"Duncan Ferguson" He was just a nutter! Remember that time he had Freund by the throat? | |||
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"The Guvner Dave Mackay Mick Harford " Both ex Derby, who remembers Franny Lee & Norman Hunter givin' it large at The Baseball Ground www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8kxMnc5KUs | |||
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"6ft 2, eyes of blue, big Jim Holton's after you " Great player "consider every 60/40 ball mine" top bloke | |||
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"One of my fav players was paul mcgrath! Dont think he was as crazy as the others mentioned mind lol!" Last I heard he went AWOL never heard of him again. | |||
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"Going to see the real hard men tomorrow at Twickenham they don't backchat the refs of pretend to be hurt except when they bite into fake blood capsules on the pitch " Or stick fingers up each other's bums. | |||
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"One of my fav players was paul mcgrath! Dont think he was as crazy as the others mentioned mind lol! Last I heard he went AWOL never heard of him again." On 29 June 2013, McGrath was arrested over an alleged public order offence at a hotel in County Offaly. He was bailed and appeared at Tullamore district court on 17 July. Another ex Derby player, we breed 'em tough here ya know | |||
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"Going to see the real hard men tomorrow at Twickenham they don't backchat the refs of pretend to be hurt except when they bite into fake blood capsules on the pitch Or stick fingers up each other's bums. " That was league, not union lol | |||
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"Stuart Pearce " Ah, good old Physco Stuart Pearce is a Ram, is a Ram, is a Ram He hates F****t http://kissedthebadge.com/2012/06/15/pearce-kissed-derbys-badge/ | |||
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"Billy Bonds Bobby Moore could be very hard. If you messed with one of our flair players Mooreo would make sure you ended up in the chicken run. Mark Ward, he was only small but I saw him square up to Doug Rougvie once. Keith Robson was proper hard on and off the pitch. " | |||
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"Joe Jordan" Good call, few tangled with him and came off better | |||
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"David Cross. The original player nicknamed Phsyco , a few years before a young Pearce would take the name. " Before my time see, only Pearce for me, | |||
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"Andoni Goikoetxea the ex athletic bilbao defender who smashed Diego Maradona's ankle up " Are we talking hard men or thugs? | |||
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"Billy Bonds Bobby Moore could be very hard. If you messed with one of our flair players Mooreo would make sure you ended up in the chicken run. Mark Ward, he was only small but I saw him square up to Doug Rougvie once. Keith Robson was proper hard on and off the pitch. " And don't forget! Georgia parris takes no shit! | |||
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"Billy Bonds Bobby Moore could be very hard. If you messed with one of our flair players Mooreo would make sure you ended up in the chicken run. Mark Ward, he was only small but I saw him square up to Doug Rougvie once. Keith Robson was proper hard on and off the pitch. And don't forget! Georgia parris takes no shit!" Georgie!! Bloody auto correct! | |||
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"Billy Bonds Bobby Moore could be very hard. If you messed with one of our flair players Mooreo would make sure you ended up in the chicken run. Mark Ward, he was only small but I saw him square up to Doug Rougvie once. Keith Robson was proper hard on and off the pitch. And don't forget! Georgia parris takes no shit! Georgie!! Bloody auto correct!" Legend. Georgie took no shit at all. | |||
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"Billy Bonds Bobby Moore could be very hard. If you messed with one of our flair players Mooreo would make sure you ended up in the chicken run. Mark Ward, he was only small but I saw him square up to Doug Rougvie once. Keith Robson was proper hard on and off the pitch. And don't forget! Georgia parris takes no shit! Georgie!! Bloody auto correct! Legend. Georgie took no shit at all. " And he had the bish and Morley to look after!!! Poor lad had his work cut out! | |||
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"Going to see the real hard men tomorrow at Twickenham they don't backchat the refs of pretend to be hurt except when they bite into fake blood capsules on the pitch Or stick fingers up each other's bums. That was league, not union lol" Indeed it was league, but when he got a 12 month ban ra ra were quick to sign him up, He has found god now, his son gave up a contract in the nrl to do 2 years at a mormon mission | |||
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"Joe Jordan Good call, few tangled with him and came off better " I used to love watching Joe Jordan, and not forgetting Gordon McQueen. Between them they scared the shit out of the opposition at corners. Also from the same team was Martin Buchan, he didn't really get the "hard man" reputation because he was also blessed with skill and perfect timing. But he was as tough as old boots, just ask Kenny Dalgliesh. | |||
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"Ok here's a couple Fair but still hard and could tackle superbly, Bobby Moore. More on your nutter style defender Paulo Maldini " Bobby Moore was really hard but he was such an exceptional tackler that he never got that dirty reputation. Easily the best footballer this country has produced and England's greatest ever captain. | |||
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"Ok here's a couple Fair but still hard and could tackle superbly, Bobby Moore. More on your nutter style defender Paulo Maldini Bobby Moore was really hard but he was such an exceptional tackler that he never got that dirty reputation. Easily the best footballer this country has produced and England's greatest ever captain. " | |||
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"Can't believe no-one mentioned vinnie jones. Robert hopkins John gayle " Vinnie Jones got allegedly beaten up in training by the number one hard man - Billy Whitehurst when they were at shefffield united. | |||
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"Can't believe no-one mentioned vinnie jones. Robert hopkins John gayle " Vinnie Jones wasn't a hard man , he was just a thug. | |||
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"Can't believe no-one mentioned vinnie jones. Robert hopkins John gayle Vinnie Jones got allegedly beaten up in training by the number one hard man - Billy Whitehurst when they were at shefffield united. " And john gayle thats why wimbledon sold him to birmingham | |||
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"Can't believe no-one mentioned vinnie jones. Robert hopkins John gayle Vinnie Jones wasn't a hard man , he was just a thug. " all the "crazy gang" were thugs i thought | |||
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"All fantastic replies! But just to put a spanner in the works, you dont have to be dirty to be hard! One man i can think of never had a yellow card in his life but hard as them all! Ironic that his nickname was' THE GENTLE GIANT!!" Was that Jack Charlton? | |||
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"Ok here's a couple Fair but still hard and could tackle superbly, Bobby Moore. More on your nutter style defender Paulo Maldini Bobby Moore was really hard but he was such an exceptional tackler that he never got that dirty reputation. Easily the best footballer this country has produced and England's greatest ever captain. " Bobby Charlton said Duncan Edwards was the best player England ever produced, tragic his life got cut so short in the Munich air disaster. | |||
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"Ok here's a couple Fair but still hard and could tackle superbly, Bobby Moore. More on your nutter style defender Paulo Maldini Bobby Moore was really hard but he was such an exceptional tackler that he never got that dirty reputation. Easily the best footballer this country has produced and England's greatest ever captain. " No contest. | |||
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"All fantastic replies! But just to put a spanner in the works, you dont have to be dirty to be hard! One man i can think of never had a yellow card in his life but hard as them all! Ironic that his nickname was' THE GENTLE GIANT!! Was that Jack Charlton?" nope .... Il Gigante Buono was quite simply the greatest footballer who ever lived .... the welsh legend John Charles he should have had a knighthood that bloke | |||
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"All fantastic replies! But just to put a spanner in the works, you dont have to be dirty to be hard! One man i can think of never had a yellow card in his life but hard as them all! Ironic that his nickname was' THE GENTLE GIANT!! Was that Jack Charlton?" the LEGEND JOHN CHARLES! | |||
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"A poll was done a few yrs ago for the best football team ever! And only john charles and bobby moore were the only two british pair in it! WOW WHAT A CENTRE HALF PARTNERSHIP THAT WOULD BE!!" Good call. John Charles played centre half and centre forward, if you were picking an all time British 11 would Charles be at the back or up front? | |||
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"Going to see the real hard men tomorrow at Twickenham they don't backchat the refs of pretend to be hurt " What pub you going to in twickers | |||
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"Gennaro Gattuso and Andrea Pirlo, neither of them were shy of putting a boot in. Pirlo still has a "don't fuck with me" look about him. Gattuso played in the Rangers team that won 9 leagues in a row. " Gattuso was a pussy cat | |||
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"Gennaro Gattuso and Andrea Pirlo, neither of them were shy of putting a boot in. Pirlo still has a "don't fuck with me" look about him. Gattuso played in the Rangers team that won 9 leagues in a row. Gattuso was a pussy cat " Same pussy cat that tried to head but Joe Jordan a few years ago? | |||
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"Gennaro Gattuso and Andrea Pirlo, neither of them were shy of putting a boot in. Pirlo still has a "don't fuck with me" look about him. Gattuso played in the Rangers team that won 9 leagues in a row. Gattuso was a pussy cat Same pussy cat that tried to head but Joe Jordan a few years ago?" Yep whats the point in head butting a 70 year old | |||
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"Gennaro Gattuso and Andrea Pirlo, neither of them were shy of putting a boot in. Pirlo still has a "don't fuck with me" look about him. Gattuso played in the Rangers team that won 9 leagues in a row. Gattuso was a pussy cat Same pussy cat that tried to head but Joe Jordan a few years ago? Yep whats the point in head butting a 70 year old " he might be 70 but I still wouldn't wanna fight him. | |||
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" I wonder if Ched Evans regrets being so *hard*? " I'd like to see him get crunched by Souness or tommy smith. Prick. | |||
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"Vinnie Jones " Anyone remember this? I bet Paul Gascoigne does! http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1582622.ece/binary/paul-gascoigne-and-vinnie-jones-732967976.jpg | |||
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"Jimmy Case. " I remember going to see Liverpool in the mid 70's and the chant was always "Jimmy's going to get ya!" as he came on... Within minutes of him coming on someone would be getting taken off, quite often on a stretcher! Not sure if he was hard or just plain filthy! | |||
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"Can't believe no one has mentioned Nobby Stiles! " Oops sorry StephanieH - you did! | |||
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"I remember when David batty playing for Newcastle, having nicky butt round the throat and literally lifting him off the ground, batty was quite a tough player!" batty was a batty boy and butt was a nothing but a dirty player, none of them were hardmen or any good at football. | |||
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"I remember when David batty playing for Newcastle, having nicky butt round the throat and literally lifting him off the ground, batty was quite a tough player! batty was a batty boy and butt was a nothing but a dirty player, none of them were hardmen or any good at football." Would that have something to do with the fact they both played for Newcastle? | |||
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"Nothing at all ill happily admit that newcastle has had some excellant players over the years, im not 1 of these that hates everything newcastle related, I can evaluate things with a level and unbiased head unlike many, my comment was a true account of those 2 players." I wouldn't say a true account but your account all the same, | |||
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"Nobby Stiles comes to mind as does Leeds United's entire team of that era!" Dirty Leeds. | |||
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"Duncan Ferguson He was just a nutter! Remember that time he had Freund by the throat?" Some people forget he got jailed for headbutting a player during a game before he moved to Everton....thats a red card, 2 weeks fine, no supper and go straight up jail! | |||
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"No footballer is a hard man. For hard men look for another sport. They fall down, cry for the magic sponge. Then run about like normal after a free kick." This man knows nothing!! | |||
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"Nothing at all ill happily admit that newcastle has had some excellant players over the years, im not 1 of these that hates everything newcastle related, I can evaluate things with a level and unbiased head unlike many, my comment was a true account of those 2 players. I wouldn't say a true account but your account all the same, " siggghhh, I may be a woman but I can talk football all night and back my statements up, lets start with nicky butt, at that time man utd under ferguson simply didnt sell good players unless they were past there best, which butt wasnt, he was a player from the same mould as todays tom cleverly, showed a few flashes, then ultimately was not good enough, this sums up nicky butt, the only exception to man utd not selling good players in there prime was in fergusons latter years with cristiano ronaldo, now david batty, he played for a few clubs and had the same terrible reputation at every club, dirty player always in the refs notebook and rightly so, and the reason been he fouled often to compensate for his lack of been able to tackle or generally play the game, he has been selected for nearly every all time worst england xi team ever broadcast on tv and if he hasnt been selected hes been on the shortlist, like I stated to you before my comment had nothing to do with anything other than it been a true statement that I could back up with facts and reason. | |||
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"No footballer is a hard man. For hard men look for another sport. They fall down, cry for the magic sponge. Then run about like normal after a free kick." You are talking about the modern game, many of the names mentioned on this thread are from the 60's, 70's and 80's before all this play-acting up to the ref bullshit creeped into the game. I am a football fan but i don't like all this rolling around on the floor lark like they've been shot, has ruined the modern game. | |||
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"Nothing at all ill happily admit that newcastle has had some excellant players over the years, im not 1 of these that hates everything newcastle related, I can evaluate things with a level and unbiased head unlike many, my comment was a true account of those 2 players. I wouldn't say a true account but your account all the same, siggghhh, I may be a woman but I can talk football all night and back my statements up, lets start with nicky butt, at that time man utd under ferguson simply didnt sell good players unless they were past there best, which butt wasnt, he was a player from the same mould as todays tom cleverly, showed a few flashes, then ultimately was not good enough, this sums up nicky butt, the only exception to man utd not selling good players in there prime was in fergusons latter years with cristiano ronaldo, now david batty, he played for a few clubs and had the same terrible reputation at every club, dirty player always in the refs notebook and rightly so, and the reason been he fouled often to compensate for his lack of been able to tackle or generally play the game, he has been selected for nearly every all time worst england xi team ever broadcast on tv and if he hasnt been selected hes been on the shortlist, like I stated to you before my comment had nothing to do with anything other than it been a true statement that I could back up with facts and reason." I think you'll find that original comment was about David batty, not nicky butt! So why are you going on about him?and the thread was about hard men footballers, not about how shit they were on the pitch, that was my opinion, And I gave it! That ok with you? | |||
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"No footballer is a hard man. For hard men look for another sport. They fall down, cry for the magic sponge. Then run about like normal after a free kick." do you mean lance armstrong? | |||
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"Nothing at all ill happily admit that newcastle has had some excellant players over the years, im not 1 of these that hates everything newcastle related, I can evaluate things with a level and unbiased head unlike many, my comment was a true account of those 2 players. I wouldn't say a true account but your account all the same, siggghhh, I may be a woman but I can talk football all night and back my statements up, lets start with nicky butt, at that time man utd under ferguson simply didnt sell good players unless they were past there best, which butt wasnt, he was a player from the same mould as todays tom cleverly, showed a few flashes, then ultimately was not good enough, this sums up nicky butt, the only exception to man utd not selling good players in there prime was in fergusons latter years with cristiano ronaldo, now david batty, he played for a few clubs and had the same terrible reputation at every club, dirty player always in the refs notebook and rightly so, and the reason been he fouled often to compensate for his lack of been able to tackle or generally play the game, he has been selected for nearly every all time worst england xi team ever broadcast on tv and if he hasnt been selected hes been on the shortlist, like I stated to you before my comment had nothing to do with anything other than it been a true statement that I could back up with facts and reason. I think you'll find that original comment was about David batty, not nicky butt! So why are you going on about him?and the thread was about hard men footballers, not about how shit they were on the pitch, that was my opinion, And I gave it! That ok with you?" its was about both of them, I commented about both of them, and it was mentioned about about both of them, thank you. | |||
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"No footballer is a hard man. For hard men look for another sport. They fall down, cry for the magic sponge. Then run about like normal after a free kick. do you mean lance armstrong? " Try Grainthorpe Thomas, rode 2 weeks of the tour De France with a fractured pelvis, pascal Simon rode several stages of the tour with a broken collar bone. Or more closer to home Shane Sutton broke his collar bone coming off his bike at the bottom of crank hill, then rode to the finish line with a broken collar bone. They are hard men. | |||
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"The Guvner Dave Mackay Mick Harford Both ex Derby, who remembers Franny Lee & Norman Hunter givin' it large at The Baseball Ground www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8kxMnc5KUs " I remember ron webster and norman hunter getting stuck Into one another on the corner flag I was About ten feet away at the time If looks could kill they certainly would.. willie carlin and terry Hennesy were clean players as were all The team generally speaking and that Carries on Into todays team jamie gets A bit wound up at times but is generally a good player Its a lot of The teams we play against that go In with the hard tackles and more. | |||
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"Nobby Stiles comes to mind as does Leeds United's entire team of that era!" Peter lorimer a good player Scored some good goals could look after himself as could all of the leeds team But he did,nt throw himself around Like Norman hunter would and bremner.. alan clarke was another one thou not a bad Player on the ball. | |||
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"peter storey -Arsenal" I remember seeing george at the Baseball ground with arsenal not sure If storey was there then I know kevin hector scored that day and most days given the chance.. | |||
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"Nobby Stiles comes to mind as does Leeds United's entire team of that era! Dirty Leeds. " derby play them On saturday.. | |||
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"No footballer is a hard man. For hard men look for another sport. They fall down, cry for the magic sponge. Then run about like normal after a free kick. You are talking about the modern game, many of the names mentioned on this thread are from the 60's, 70's and 80's before all this play-acting up to the ref bullshit creeped into the game. I am a football fan but i don't like all this rolling around on the floor lark like they've been shot, has ruined the modern game. " And they got around £300 a week wages each In early 70,s 71/72 period and hardly If any over seas players. | |||
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"One of my fav players was paul mcgrath! Dont think he was as crazy as the others mentioned mind lol!" I Don,t think he was crazy either could look after himself If needed liked to win the ball that was all perhaps a bit Hard for some. | |||
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"Nobby Stiles comes to mind as does Leeds United's entire team of that era! Dirty Leeds. derby play them On saturday.. " hey do us a favour and not be so biased about ur beloved rams and except harder players didnt all play 4u hey! | |||
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"i would of liked to see the anfield iron tommy smith get stuck into some of these so called top players of today..soft as shite most of them..i would of loved to have seen georgie best as well..now he was a real top player..not many about today as good as him" You could perhaps remember tommy for being a hard man but In between he could put on a entertaining game of football for the fans when he wanted to If he was,nt drawn Into confrontation with The opposition still happens today Really with todays players some things Never change the ref,s are to keen now Days to let things go by, It makes a Pleasant change for the ref to let them play sometimes only Interviening When he should. | |||
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"Joe Jordan Good call, few tangled with him and came off better " | |||
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"Johnny Giles" All these Leeds players talk about the hard men of Europe but not a dirty player If I remember right... | |||
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"Been a Leeds fan we have had a few over the years hard but could also play abit Dave batty hard as nails on the pitch but a good player too Anyone remember Ian Baird hard as nails on the pitch " david batty lol. | |||
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"Nothing at all ill happily admit that newcastle has had some excellant players over the years, im not 1 of these that hates everything newcastle related, I can evaluate things with a level and unbiased head unlike many, my comment was a true account of those 2 players. I wouldn't say a true account but your account all the same, siggghhh, I may be a woman but I can talk football all night and back my statements up, lets start with nicky butt, at that time man utd under ferguson simply didnt sell good players unless they were past there best, which butt wasnt, he was a player from the same mould as todays tom cleverly, showed a few flashes, then ultimately was not good enough, this sums up nicky butt, the only exception to man utd not selling good players in there prime was in fergusons latter years with cristiano ronaldo, now david batty, he played for a few clubs and had the same terrible reputation at every club, dirty player always in the refs notebook and rightly so, and the reason been he fouled often to compensate for his lack of been able to tackle or generally play the game, he has been selected for nearly every all time worst england xi team ever broadcast on tv and if he hasnt been selected hes been on the shortlist, like I stated to you before my comment had nothing to do with anything other than it been a true statement that I could back up with facts and reason. I think you'll find that original comment was about David batty, not nicky butt! So why are you going on about him?and the thread was about hard men footballers, not about how shit they were on the pitch, that was my opinion, And I gave it! That ok with you? its was about both of them, I commented about both of them, and it was mentioned about about both of them, thank you." If you actually read the post it was just about David batty, I didn't say anything about nicky butt apart from batty having him round the throat! Read things properly! | |||
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"Nothing at all ill happily admit that newcastle has had some excellant players over the years, im not 1 of these that hates everything newcastle related, I can evaluate things with a level and unbiased head unlike many, my comment was a true account of those 2 players. I wouldn't say a true account but your account all the same, siggghhh, I may be a woman but I can talk football all night and back my statements up, lets start with nicky butt, at that time man utd under ferguson simply didnt sell good players unless they were past there best, which butt wasnt, he was a player from the same mould as todays tom cleverly, showed a few flashes, then ultimately was not good enough, this sums up nicky butt, the only exception to man utd not selling good players in there prime was in fergusons latter years with cristiano ronaldo, now david batty, he played for a few clubs and had the same terrible reputation at every club, dirty player always in the refs notebook and rightly so, and the reason been he fouled often to compensate for his lack of been able to tackle or generally play the game, he has been selected for nearly every all time worst england xi team ever broadcast on tv and if he hasnt been selected hes been on the shortlist, like I stated to you before my comment had nothing to do with anything other than it been a true statement that I could back up with facts and reason. I think you'll find that original comment was about David batty, not nicky butt! So why are you going on about him?and the thread was about hard men footballers, not about how shit they were on the pitch, that was my opinion, And I gave it! That ok with you? its was about both of them, I commented about both of them, and it was mentioned about about both of them, thank you. If you actually read the post it was just about David batty, I didn't say anything about nicky butt apart from batty having him round the throat! Read things properly!" I did thank you, these forums are for fun, your need to comment like that shows you are wound up, ive made my opinion which is very valid, theres no need to go telling me to read things properly, im more than capable of reading, maybe you need to chill out, and understand people may no things and possess facts that rubbish what you think, it happens, and most importantly people will disagree with you, deal with it. | |||
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"Been a Leeds fan we have had a few over the years hard but could also play abit Dave batty hard as nails on the pitch but a good player too Anyone remember Ian Baird hard as nails on the pitch " Didn't Jack Charlton once play with a broken big toe ? | |||
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"Been a Leeds fan we have had a few over the years hard but could also play abit Dave batty hard as nails on the pitch but a good player too Anyone remember Ian Baird hard as nails on the pitch Didn't Jack Charlton once play with a broken big toe ? " I don't know about that but i bet if he did he would'nt use it as an excuse for losing like the boxer David Haye did. | |||
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