FabSwingers.com forum: Airline Passengers Should they have a certificate of competence to show that they know how to pass

By *at69drive OP Man
over a year ago

Hertford

Often wondered should airline Passengers have to go on a course to show that they know how to board a plane . Examples of people causing delays a At security. . 1. Failing to remove objects from their bag while in the queue . 2. Not emptying their pockets of coins while in the queue .3. Slowly removing their lap top or I pad and then closing or repacking their case very slowly .4 Putting their jacket or jumper back on really slowly . When boarding. Taking off jackets and jumpers while standing in the gangway , then folding them up slowly and totally oblivious to the fact that other people are standing behind then. Forgetting something from their hand baggage and then retrieving it but again blocking the gang way . Some of these passengers should be filmed just to show how disorganised they are

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By *igandanneCouple
over a year ago

Cheltenham

You dont have this problem when flying 1st class !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not everyone travels frequently. Have some patience...If that was your elderly parents (assuming you have some) would you want people putting them under pressure ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A certicate? Eh? Plane journeys are for consumers. It is for the airlines to get their processes in order. When I boatd a bus, I do not expect chaos or to present a certificate.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

how about the dickhead who put a case in the aisle of the plane whilst everyone was boarding?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Use public transport?

I charter my own thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

These are just everyday people. Remember. ..when you're sat in traffic complaining about the traffic.....you are the traffic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP what are you doing to assist the situation? or are you just stood there blocking the aisle and tutting at the incompetence of everyone else?

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By *at69drive OP Man
over a year ago

Hertford

"OP what are you doing to assist the situation? or are you just stood there blocking the aisle and tutting at the incompetence of everyone else?

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I have all my stuff sorted before I reach security , shoes off , and I pad already removed. On boarding one lift has my case in the overhead locker and then my seat. I am conscious of the fact that there are usually up to 170 people boarding a flight.

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By *afadaoMan
over a year ago

Staines

"OP what are you doing to assist the situation? or are you just stood there blocking the aisle and tutting at the incompetence of everyone else?

I have all my stuff sorted before I reach security , shoes off , and I pad already removed. On boarding one lift has my case in the overhead locker and then my seat. I am conscious of the fact that there are usually up to 170 people boarding a flight. "

Give that man a certificate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You sound like the door handle that was sat by me last week on a flight from Las Palmas

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By *at69drive OP Man
over a year ago

Hertford

"A certicate? Eh? Plane journeys are for consumers. It is for the airlines to get their processes in order. When I boatd a bus, I do not expect chaos or to present a certificate."
The airlines I fly with are usually fairly well organised and the instructions at security are quite clear. However as in all walks of life some people just ignore the instructions given so them and assume that they can get away with it.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

What about passengers not being able to pass basic maths, 1 handbag + 1 other type of bag = 2 bags, the boarding announcement says 1 bag. Not rocket science.

Also when a group gets the boarding agent with 1 person holding a the boarding passes and passports, only to have to waste several minutes giving the right person their stuff.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"A certicate? Eh? Plane journeys are for consumers. It is for the airlines to get their processes in order. When I boatd a bus, I do not expect chaos or to present a certificate. The airlines I fly with are usually fairly well organised and the instructions at security are quite clear. However as in all walks of life some people just ignore the instructions given so them and assume that they can get away with it. "

I work at an airport and can tell you even the most intellectual person can become a confused person so quickly, I see the same thing every flight and do question how some people actually got to the airport in one piece.

But it is what makes up the rich tapestry that is life, if you don't like travelling with these people lease a private plane.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

in answer to the question no..

maybe those less tolerant of others or impatient should relax a little bit..?

the plane isn't going to leave without you is it..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP what are you doing to assist the situation? or are you just stood there blocking the aisle and tutting at the incompetence of everyone else?

Well seeing as you're so organised and efficient perhaps you could show a bit of patience to those that aren't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem I have is with those who have large carry on luggage which is almost impossible to fit in the overhead compartment.

Why did the check in allow it?

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"in answer to the question no..

maybe those less tolerant of others or impatient should relax a little bit..?

the plane isn't going to leave without you is it.."

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"in answer to the question no..

maybe those less tolerant of others or impatient should relax a little bit..?

the plane isn't going to leave without you is it..

agree if they're late then that's tango sierra, meant in the manner described by the op..

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By *at69drive OP Man
over a year ago

Hertford

"The problem I have is with those who have large carry on luggage which is almost impossible to fit in the overhead compartment.

Why did the check in allow it?"
. Anyone with any over sized bag should be surcharrged . They can only carry over sized bags because the majority of us adhere to the rules .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

WTF

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By *at69drive OP Man
over a year ago

Hertford

"in answer to the question no..

maybe those less tolerant of others or impatient should relax a little bit..?

the plane isn't going to leave without you is it..

I ca testify to the thousands of people each year, who turn up at the gate, only to be told sorry you are too late. You are supposed to arrive at the depart gate 10 minutes before the gate closest, the departure time is the time the plane should be on the runway."
I usually allow at least two hours to clear security and get to my flight . Some passengers still expect to jump the queue because they cannot get to the airport on time .

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Not all disabilities present themselves as a white stick or a wheelchair. Getting your coat off and back on can take time for some.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It might help if all airports adhered to the same systems and procedures.

and before anyone says they do, they don't !

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"It might help if all airports adhered to the same systems and procedures.

and before anyone says they do, they don't !

I was thinking it's a while since you and I filled a transport thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It might help if all airports adhered to the same systems and procedures.

and before anyone says they do, they don't !

I was thinking it's a while since you and I filled a transport thread.

don't get me started

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"It might help if all airports adhered to the same systems and procedures.

and before anyone says they do, they don't !

I was thinking it's a while since you and I filled a transport thread.

don't get me started

Please! You know how much I love it. Come on, let's talk runways, railways, tarmac and location.

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By *at69drive OP Man
over a year ago

Hertford

"It might help if all airports adhered to the same systems and procedures.

and before anyone says they do, they don't !

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. Good point . Though most of the rules and regulations are clearly displayed before you go through security. .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It might help if all airports adhered to the same systems and procedures.

and before anyone says they do, they don't !

. Good point . Though most of the rules and regulations are clearly displayed before you go through security. ."

But if they stopped and read, they might be under your feet

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"The problem I have is with those who have large carry on luggage which is almost impossible to fit in the overhead compartment.

Why did the check in allow it?"

I can answer that one, at check in the people with large suitcases have Checked in online, or they have hidden the case from view of the check in agent. Sounds silly but seen it loads of times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem lies in the procedures changing more frequently than a lot of us actually fly. Airports seem to assume that we are all frequent flyers. And were not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

FFS OP who pissed on your chips?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At least I now know who I wouldn't want to travel with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The problem lies in the procedures changing more frequently than a lot of us actually fly. Airports seem to assume that we are all frequent flyers. And were not."

Procedures change as a result of what is happening, not sure if you are aware but there is a bunch of terrorists out there trying to make a name for themselves. That is why procedures change without notice.

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By *cottybhoyMan
over a year ago

falkirk

OP just seems an intolerant, arrogant and unfriendly prick to me. Many reasons why folk can't adhere or live up to his standards

Away and get something proper to moan about - am sure he can google it on his iPad!

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

Sadly some people, not all, think they are super important, above everyone and everyone else is in their way when it comes to flying.

The majority of people relax and chill from the moment they hit the airport so their flight is relaxed and chilled. They do that for various reasons from being naturally chilled to being scared shitless of flying.

Some tossers even like to come to the front to tell the techy's what they think of them for delaying their flight.

At that point they get baited, react more, overstep the line and get left behind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sadly some people, not all, think they are super important, above everyone and everyone else is in their way when it comes to flying.

Some tossers even like to come to the front to tell the techy's what they think of them for delaying their flight.

At that point they get baited, react more, overstep the line and get left behind

The fun is when the angry person has got through the boarding gate desk after their rant, only to be told they have too many bags and will have to pay to check one in. This happened in front of me recently, the guy went ballistic.

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By *urreyfun2008Man
over a year ago

East Grinstead

Freezer bag with in seat stuff and bag goes straight into over head locker.

7 days usa trip including camera and laptop and clothes all in trolley bag that fits in small European flights and day sack at feet. Packing light is a technique learnt.

Daughter does long haul on her own ( escort so she gets in plane ) and moans about the daft things people do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my experience that it is those that who are in the wrong that kick off the most.

A budget airline gate queue is a great place to witness victim culture.

'The rules shouldn't apply to me because ...'

'Well it's a rip off. If I want to take 20 pairs of shoes for a weeks holiday, I have to pay for luggage and it's 80 quid ...'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not all disabilities present themselves as a white stick or a wheelchair. Getting your coat off and back on can take time for some.

Exactly , though the old guy who got pushed on in a wheelchair, then couldn't be arsed to wait for one on disembarking , so 'walked' off , on a recent flight from Dublin, so the passengers at the rear took longer to get off than the actual flight itself.

Clearly wouldn't earn a certificate !

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By *iuliettaWoman
over a year ago

DEVIZES

I flew too much and they gave me a shiny card but I still sometimes forget that I have something in my pocket at the x ray machine!

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By *at69drive OP Man
over a year ago

Hertford

"In my experience that it is those that who are in the wrong that kick off the most.

A budget airline gate queue is a great place to witness victim culture.

'The rules shouldn't apply to me because ...'

'Well it's a rip off. If I want to take 20 pairs of shoes for a weeks holiday, I have to pay for luggage and it's 80 quid ...' "
. Excellent comment . It never ceases to amaze me why people think the rules should not apply to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The problem lies in the procedures changing more frequently than a lot of us actually fly. Airports seem to assume that we are all frequent flyers. And were not.

I KNOW they change, but as a lot of people are infrequent flyers, they can hardly be expected to know the ins and outs of check in, security etc. Perhaps the airports might help by making their procedures a bit easier to understand and not presume that we are all flying every day, like a lot of their staff.

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