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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

We've been in the EU a long time now, and in a unified Britain even longer.

But how do people see themselves?

Oddly, I see myself as British, then English, then European except when I travel to the continent. Then I feel more European.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I see myself as English and my wife sees herself as Scottish.

Neither of us feels European.

Although we both feel superior so that could be the British coming out in us

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Derbyshireish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

British not European for Emily, Im half Scottish half British

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I'm only half British...

And I definitely feel European more than British.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Welsh, British, European, but living in England I feel slightly less Welsh, and like you say, I feel more European when I'm abroad.

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"Derbyshireish

That's called being Awkwardish.

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By *ustcutieWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh

Scottish first but also British, can't say I feel European

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By *otsoSnowWhiteWoman
over a year ago

My Ice Castle! South Wales

Welsh then British. Don't feel European at all as I feel we're treated like the dumping ground for all the immigrants as we're the soft touch!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Irish

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"Welsh then British. Don't feel European at all as I feel we're treated like the dumping ground for all the immigrants as we're the soft touch! "

This is really not the thread for that. Just about how people see themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Irish

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Northern Irish or

The republic of Irish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Irish

Northern Irish or

The republic of Irish

republic

Irish londoner now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm Welsh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm Welsh

love the accent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm half Welsh and half Irish . But was born in Ireland

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Definitely British for me, unless I'm watching the Rugby, then English.

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By *luezuluMan
over a year ago

Suffolk

English

Only British when the Olympics or any other sporting event containing a British team are on

Only European when the Ryder cup is on

But I am still proud of Great Britain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Irish

Northern Irish or

The republic of Irish

republic

Irish londoner now

U?"
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Born here but parents from Wexford.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A human being ...at least I think I am?

I'm not really one for nationalism. Apologies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Londoner, then half Irish/Half British.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Londoner, then half Irish/Half British."
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I'm not sure you can be half British same as you can't be half European.

British citizen maybe but can you describe yourself as British.

I think in this country were so diverse you can't even describe yourself as English or welsh as the countries change so much from region to region.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm British but I've been adopted by Wales

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think in this country were so diverse you can't even describe yourself as English or welsh as the countries change so much from region to region."

I can. I'm Welsh with a Capital W

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By *orflondonerMan
over a year ago

Wood Green

English British..Equally Proud of both

Call myself English within the United Kingdom,British outside of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think in this country were so diverse you can't even describe yourself as English or welsh as the countries change so much from region to region.

I can. I'm Welsh with a Capital W

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That's nothing I once wrote it as whales

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

British, never once considered myself as europeon

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By *o30Woman
over a year ago

Lincoln

"Well I'm only half British...

And I definitely feel European more than British. "

I'm half English, half European. I see myself as European

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"Londoner, then half Irish/Half British..

I'm not sure you can be half British same as you can't be half European.

British citizen maybe but can you describe yourself as British.

I think in this country were so diverse you can't even describe yourself as English or welsh as the countries change so much from region to region."

There's no wrong answer here. I just asked how people see themselves. If that is how they feel, then that is how they feel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Londoner, then half Irish/Half British..

I'm not sure you can be half British same as you can't be half European.

British citizen maybe but can you describe yourself as British.

I think in this country were so diverse you can't even describe yourself as English or welsh as the countries change so much from region to region."

I can see myself as I like cant I?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Londoner, then half Irish/Half British..

I'm not sure you can be half British same as you can't be half European.

British citizen maybe but can you describe yourself as British.

I think in this country were so diverse you can't even describe yourself as English or welsh as the countries change so much from region to region.

There's no wrong answer here. I just asked how people see themselves. If that is how they feel, then that is how they feel. "
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No my point was British doesn't really define you very well, where as the chap that said Derbyshireish,well you can get a feeling for that straight away.

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"Londoner, then half Irish/Half British..

I'm not sure you can be half British same as you can't be half European.

British citizen maybe but can you describe yourself as British.

I think in this country were so diverse you can't even describe yourself as English or welsh as the countries change so much from region to region.

I can see myself as I like cant I?

Absolutely. Can't understand disagreement on this thread. It's not the intent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Londoner, then half Irish/Half British..

I'm not sure you can be half British same as you can't be half European.

British citizen maybe but can you describe yourself as British.

I think in this country were so diverse you can't even describe yourself as English or welsh as the countries change so much from region to region.

There's no wrong answer here. I just asked how people see themselves. If that is how they feel, then that is how they feel. .

No my point was British doesn't really define you very well, where as the chap that said Derbyshireish,well you can get a feeling for that straight away."

But I said Londoner first and foremost, which is where I was born and grew up.

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"Londoner, then half Irish/Half British..

I'm not sure you can be half British same as you can't be half European.

British citizen maybe but can you describe yourself as British.

I think in this country were so diverse you can't even describe yourself as English or welsh as the countries change so much from region to region.

There's no wrong answer here. I just asked how people see themselves. If that is how they feel, then that is how they feel. .

No my point was British doesn't really define you very well, where as the chap that said Derbyshireish,well you can get a feeling for that straight away."

The point of the thread is how people PERSONALLY feel. They can define themselves any way they like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Londoner, then half Irish/Half British..

I'm not sure you can be half British same as you can't be half European.

British citizen maybe but can you describe yourself as British.

I think in this country were so diverse you can't even describe yourself as English or welsh as the countries change so much from region to region.

There's no wrong answer here. I just asked how people see themselves. If that is how they feel, then that is how they feel. .

No my point was British doesn't really define you very well, where as the chap that said Derbyshireish,well you can get a feeling for that straight away.

But I said Londoner first and foremost, which is where I was born and grew up.

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.Lol no I wasn't really telling you you can't be half British, it was more me trying to think through in my brain whether you can be half British. I've got a very odd way of conveying thoughts into words

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Londoner, then half Irish/Half British..

I'm not sure you can be half British same as you can't be half European.

British citizen maybe but can you describe yourself as British.

I think in this country were so diverse you can't even describe yourself as English or welsh as the countries change so much from region to region.

There's no wrong answer here. I just asked how people see themselves. If that is how they feel, then that is how they feel. .

No my point was British doesn't really define you very well, where as the chap that said Derbyshireish,well you can get a feeling for that straight away.

But I said Londoner first and foremost, which is where I was born and grew up.

.Lol no I wasn't really telling you you can't be half British, it was more me trying to think through in my brain whether you can be half British. I've got a very odd way of conveying thoughts into words

Maybe if you had an Irish mother and a half Welsh/half English father it'd make more sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I say I'm from England usually. I've been asked if I'm Lithuanian twice and Australian 3 times. I'm English because I was born here. My grandparents were Welsh,Scottish,English and French

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm Welsh. If I broke it down it would be Daughter of Welsh woman and Italian man, I have Welsh grandparents my mothers side and all Italian my fathers side.

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"I'm Welsh. If I broke it down it would be Daughter of Welsh woman and Italian man, I have Welsh grandparents my mothers side and all Italian my fathers side. "

Primarily, in your head, how do you feel?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've been in the EU a long time now, and in a unified Britain even longer.

But how do people see themselves?

Oddly, I see myself as British, then English, then European except when I travel to the continent. Then I feel more European. "

I'm Irish but not at all patriotic.

Settled here in London and love this country.

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"We've been in the EU a long time now, and in a unified Britain even longer.

But how do people see themselves?

Oddly, I see myself as British, then English, then European except when I travel to the continent. Then I feel more European.

I'm Irish but not at all patriotic.

Settled here in London and love this country.

So would you say you were more British or a Londoner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Londoner, then half Irish/Half British..

I'm not sure you can be half British same as you can't be half European.

British citizen maybe but can you describe yourself as British.

I think in this country were so diverse you can't even describe yourself as English or welsh as the countries change so much from region to region.

There's no wrong answer here. I just asked how people see themselves. If that is how they feel, then that is how they feel. .

No my point was British doesn't really define you very well, where as the chap that said Derbyshireish,well you can get a feeling for that straight away.

But I said Londoner first and foremost, which is where I was born and grew up.

Maybe if you had an Irish mother and a half Welsh/half English father it'd make more sense

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You know I've never really given it much thought as to where my parents or grandparents are from, I've always believed where you were brought up as a child defines "home" more than how you were brought up or where you've been since.

I read only the other day that Ozzy Osbourne still considers himself a brummie even though he's lived in the states for over 30 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've been in the EU a long time now, and in a unified Britain even longer.

But how do people see themselves?

Oddly, I see myself as British, then English, then European except when I travel to the continent. Then I feel more European.

I'm Irish but not at all patriotic.

Settled here in London and love this country.

So would you say you were more British or a Londoner. "

Londoner. I still have an accent so I'm a 'blow in'.

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes

I'm Scottish first and British second. Don't feel European at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a Welsh man but ill always tick British on any forms when asked about ethnicity. I love my origins yes and at times when travelling around the UK I can sense the fact that I'm out of place, but I guess we all feel that away from familiar things.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

Just human. Anything else is an accident of where my mum happened to be when I decided to see the world.

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By *ykoCouple
over a year ago

york

English all the way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've been in the EU a long time now, and in a unified Britain even longer.

But how do people see themselves?

Oddly, I see myself as British, then English, then European except when I travel to the continent. Then I feel more European.

I'm Irish but not at all patriotic.

Settled here in London and love this country.

So would you say you were more British or a Londoner.

Londoner. I still have an accent so I'm a 'blow in'."

Shame on you not being patriotic tut tut

what part of eire did you grow up in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm Welsh. If I broke it down it would be Daughter of Welsh woman and Italian man, I have Welsh grandparents my mothers side and all Italian my fathers side.

Primarily, in your head, how do you feel?"

I feel Welsh, I'm patriotic. I went to a Welsh speaking primary and secondary school. I'm a fluent Welsh speaker and in 6 nations rugby I support Wales when we play Italy!

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By *astpoetMan
over a year ago

where the world takes me

I half English, half Spanish, and after that European. Don't really feel British in anyway and if anything it annoys me when Americans refer to me as a Brit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

British.. Never considered myself anything other than that.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

mixture of Irish and Welsh born in Liverpool, sort of British but without sounding daft have an affinity with wherever I am at that time and the people who live there so maybe globalist..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've been in the EU a long time now, and in a unified Britain even longer.

But how do people see themselves?

Oddly, I see myself as British, then English, then European except when I travel to the continent. Then I feel more European.

I'm Irish but not at all patriotic.

Settled here in London and love this country.

So would you say you were more British or a Londoner.

Londoner. I still have an accent so I'm a 'blow in'.

Shame on you not being patriotic tut tut

what part of eire did you grow up in?"

Pah....I'm just not bothered I find patriotism a double edged sword.

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By *astpoetMan
over a year ago

where the world takes me

"We've been in the EU a long time now, and in a unified Britain even longer.

But how do people see themselves?

Oddly, I see myself as British, then English, then European except when I travel to the continent. Then I feel more European.

I'm Irish but not at all patriotic.

Settled here in London and love this country.

So would you say you were more British or a Londoner.

Londoner. I still have an accent so I'm a 'blow in'.

Shame on you not being patriotic tut tut

what part of eire did you grow up in?

Pah....I'm just not bothered I find patriotism a double edged sword.

I love the history and cultures of countries, and am proud of certain things for both of mine, but i find many people use nationalism as an excuse for bigotry and it puts me off nationalism massively

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a Londoner. Whenever I am asked I always say I'm from London. If filling in a form I'm british.

I don't see myself as European at all. I think we have more in common with the Americans than the French.

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By *illbillMan
over a year ago

dublin

Irish first then European....ive no issue with the term European. Don't mind being lumped in with British Belgian dutch German French Italian etc....all great people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was born in Scotland ergo....Im a Scot in every context.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

English

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By *MaleMan
over a year ago

For me British. I've worked in many parts of Europe and most also see themselves as the local nationality.

Nothing to do with dislike or like for the EU either.

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By *oobsandballsMan
over a year ago

st andrews

Scottish here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've been in the EU a long time now, and in a unified Britain even longer.

But how do people see themselves?

Oddly, I see myself as British, then English, then European except when I travel to the continent. Then I feel more European.

I'm Irish but not at all patriotic.

Settled here in London and love this country.

So would you say you were more British or a Londoner.

Londoner. I still have an accent so I'm a 'blow in'.

Shame on you not being patriotic tut tut

what part of eire did you grow up in?

Pah....I'm just not bothered I find patriotism a double edged sword.

what part ireland you from?

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By *ugarrainMan
over a year ago

Paisley

Although born in Scotland, I am British. Either Scottish or European is way way way 2nd and 3rd place.

Can't say I'm "proud" to be any nationality. It's an accident of birth. Pride should only be felt for something achieved.

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By * Busty HotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Bradford

I against my brothers.

My brothers and I against our cousins.

Our family and I against the world.

Translates as English & then British. And if anyone is arguing against our Western cousins, then European.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Just human. Anything else is an accident of where my mum happened to be when I decided to see the world.

This

I have no interest in tribalism x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I support England and Blackburn in the Football - otherwise usually the underdog.

I'm not at all a nationalist - where I was born is where I was born... It doesn't make the place, the people or myself better than any other place or people.

I'm an Earthling and I wish the best for all decent human beings.

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"I am a Londoner. Whenever I am asked I always say I'm from London. If filling in a form I'm british.

I don't see myself as European at all. I think we have more in common with the Americans than the French. "

Yet, I feel more affinity with the French than the Americans.

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By *obbytupperMan
over a year ago

Menston near Ilkley

I spent a week at Cap D Agde and felt quite a few Europeans

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"Although born in Scotland, I am British. Either Scottish or European is way way way 2nd and 3rd place.

Can't say I'm "proud" to be any nationality. It's an accident of birth. Pride should only be felt for something achieved."

It's not about feeling proud - or at least that is not what I intended when starting the thread. I was just interested in how people felt.

As I stated originally, I tend to change how I feel depending on where I am.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

English always but it down as that its not racist or anything just what I am born here lived all my life here will probably die here and if I do move I will still be English as thats who I am just like lots of guys u work with are Indian 10 years after coming here we are what we are and I think local pride helps to make places nicer sham we dont enbrace nationalism or even localism more if your proud of your area you want it to be good and show it off to others and so do your best to make it so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am a Londoner. Whenever I am asked I always say I'm from London. If filling in a form I'm british.

I don't see myself as European at all. I think we have more in common with the Americans than the French.

Yet, I feel more affinity with the French than the Americans."

That's fair. Although when I'm sat in a tavern in France drinking Bordeaux and nibbling cheese I feel incredibly French.

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"English always but it down as that its not racist or anything just what I am born here lived all my life here will probably die here and if I do move I will still be English as thats who I am just like lots of guys u work with are Indian 10 years after coming here we are what we are and I think local pride helps to make places nicer sham we dont enbrace nationalism or even localism more if your proud of your area you want it to be good and show it off to others and so do your best to make it so "

It's not about racism. It's how people _iew themselves. Interesting that few have said European yet we've been in the EU quite some time now.

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By *ratty_DamselWoman
over a year ago

Greater London

British but with a very strong Irish background. Explains the argumentive streak in me, I think.

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"I am a Londoner. Whenever I am asked I always say I'm from London. If filling in a form I'm british.

I don't see myself as European at all. I think we have more in common with the Americans than the French.

Yet, I feel more affinity with the French than the Americans.

That's fair. Although when I'm sat in a tavern in France drinking Bordeaux and nibbling cheese I feel incredibly French. "

And I felt utterly alien when I went to America.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I might be wrong but I think we've been in Europe for like forever or at least since the continents collided into each other.

Whether having a federal government makes you feel European well having a British governance hasn't made half the people feel British in 300 years so I doubt the EU will have a better outcome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British but with a very strong Irish background. Explains the argumentive streak in me, I think.

what u saying about us Irish?

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"I might be wrong but I think we've been in Europe for like forever or at least since the continents collided into each other.

Whether having a federal government makes you feel European well having a British governance hasn't made half the people feel British in 300 years so I doubt the EU will have a better outcome."

I feel European when I am over on the continent regardless of government. I just feel more affinity with them. However, when on this side of the Channel, I feel more British. Again, regardless of government.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am a Londoner. Whenever I am asked I always say I'm from London. If filling in a form I'm british.

I don't see myself as European at all. I think we have more in common with the Americans than the French.

Yet, I feel more affinity with the French than the Americans.

That's fair. Although when I'm sat in a tavern in France drinking Bordeaux and nibbling cheese I feel incredibly French.

And I felt utterly alien when I went to America."

We fit in well over there. But we did live there for a while so are used to their ways.

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By *ammerandthongsCouple
over a year ago

Limerick

I as male of couple was born in UK to Irish parents. I have lived in both countries and would consider myself Irish but love England too. Time moves on and with only one chance at life being human and humane probably ranks above nationality to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So what did British people feel before there was Britain?.

I personally don't know what feeling British is, I was born in Manchester moved all over and now reside in Bristol, I've still got a manc accent and all the idiosyncratic things that come from there so if anything I feel Mancurian?.

I doubt if somebody dropped me off in the Australian outback for years I'd feel any affinity to feeling aboriginal.

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"So what did British people feel before there was Britain?.

I doubt if somebody dropped me off in the Australian outback for years I'd feel any affinity to feeling aboriginal."

Doesn't really matter what people thought before there was a Britain. I just find it interesting how people see themselves. Some very enlightening posts here, and quite unexpected. Just shows how different we all are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

British and proud of it,Irish and fond of it.

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

I've been wondering why there are so many different 'identities' on here. Immigration can possibly account for that, but I am thinking that the ease of global travel may also impact on how we _iew ourselves.

My grandmother's family were Russian Jews but she was born in Yorkshire. She always referred to herself as a Yorkshirewoman. However, she never traveled far - in fact got no further than Blackpool.

My father's family were from Cork, Ireland, but he never visited there and always considered himself an Englishman. He didn't travel too much - mainly Spain, and when he did, he tended to be around other British people and didn't mix much with local people.

I've driven all over Europe, been to Singapore, Australia, America. Not that widely traveled compared to some, I will admit, yet far more than previous generations. I still feel British but do also feel European.

Is it the influence of travel? I can only surmise, I suppose.

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

British,an Ulsterman, NOT Irish

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By *nfieldishCouple
over a year ago

Enfield

English.../ Irish.......certainly not European...... And I do not like the term British......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I'm Greek Cypriot originally but I've had so much English, Irish, Scottish and Welsh pummelled into me over the years that I think I'm now British, or at the very least still a colony

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't understand what it is to feel British.

There's no British accent, bejesus half us can't understand one another never mind foreigners, no British food, I've seen food in Lincolnshire I've never seen in Cornwall, no British weather, the south east is totally different than the north west, all we actually share is a flag and a landmass and a tv station and even that's different programmes on different days.

Can you submerse yourself into a totally different culture and identify with them, probably, but at what cost to your own.

The only thing British I've got is a passport. I guess I'm just me with a manc accent and a few quirky sayings my parents left me.

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By *rionycdTV/TS
over a year ago

East Kilbride

I'm just one of Jock Tamson's bairns !

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

"I don't understand what it is to feel British.

Can you submerse yourself into a totally different culture and identify with them, probably, but at what cost to your own.

The only thing British I've got is a passport. I guess I'm just me with a manc accent and a few quirky sayings my parents left me."

France has exactly the same issues

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've been in the EU a long time now, and in a unified Britain even longer.

But how do people see themselves?

Oddly, I see myself as British, then English, then European except when I travel to the continent. Then I feel more European.

I'm Irish but not at all patriotic.

Settled here in London and love this country.

So would you say you were more British or a Londoner.

Londoner. I still have an accent so I'm a 'blow in'.

Shame on you not being patriotic tut tut

what part of eire did you grow up in?

Pah....I'm just not bothered I find patriotism a double edged sword.

I love the history and cultures of countries, and am proud of certain things for both of mine, but i find many people use nationalism as an excuse for bigotry and it puts me off nationalism massively"

Indeed and I don't travel in packs.

I am interested in other cultures too but no time for shouty, ranty people beating their chests as they pee a line around their territory.

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"We've been in the EU a long time now, and in a unified Britain even longer.

But how do people see themselves?

Oddly, I see myself as British, then English, then European except when I travel to the continent. Then I feel more European.

I'm Irish but not at all patriotic.

Settled here in London and love this country.

So would you say you were more British or a Londoner.

Londoner. I still have an accent so I'm a 'blow in'.

Shame on you not being patriotic tut tut

what part of eire did you grow up in?

Pah....I'm just not bothered I find patriotism a double edged sword.

I love the history and cultures of countries, and am proud of certain things for both of mine, but i find many people use nationalism as an excuse for bigotry and it puts me off nationalism massively

Indeed and I don't travel in packs.

I am interested in other cultures too but no time for shouty, ranty people beating their chests as they pee a line around their territory."

No one is doing that, and that was not the intention of the thread. It was simply something I found interesting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've been in the EU a long time now, and in a unified Britain even longer.

But how do people see themselves?

Oddly, I see myself as British, then English, then European except when I travel to the continent. Then I feel more European.

I'm Irish but not at all patriotic.

Settled here in London and love this country.

So would you say you were more British or a Londoner.

Londoner. I still have an accent so I'm a 'blow in'.

Shame on you not being patriotic tut tut

what part of eire did you grow up in?

Pah....I'm just not bothered I find patriotism a double edged sword.

what part ireland you from?"

A small town in South West.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know what we are certainly not European I've lived there for years and. We are backward compared to them !

I'd say I feel nothing about being British or English , we have nothing to feel patriotic about , we have to bow down to everyone else and be so PC and are unable to have any staunch feelings about anything of our country

We can't even be proud and display the Union flag without being branded racists!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've been in the EU a long time now, and in a unified Britain even longer.

But how do people see themselves?

Oddly, I see myself as British, then English, then European except when I travel to the continent. Then I feel more European.

I'm Irish but not at all patriotic.

Settled here in London and love this country.

So would you say you were more British or a Londoner.

Londoner. I still have an accent so I'm a 'blow in'.

Shame on you not being patriotic tut tut

what part of eire did you grow up in?

Pah....I'm just not bothered I find patriotism a double edged sword.

I love the history and cultures of countries, and am proud of certain things for both of mine, but i find many people use nationalism as an excuse for bigotry and it puts me off nationalism massively

Indeed and I don't travel in packs.

I am interested in other cultures too but no time for shouty, ranty people beating their chests as they pee a line around their territory.

No one is doing that, and that was not the intention of the thread. It was simply something I found interesting."

I didn't say you were.

I was referring to people who do...outside of this thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

manx only manx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cumbrian

then English

Then British

not European at all in any way shape or form

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

To reiterate - the thread is about people's perceptions of themselves. Not racism, pc, immigrants, or suchlike.

I just find it interesting the diversity just on one small island.

That is all.

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

"I don't know what we are certainly not European I've lived there for years and. We are backward compared to them !

We can't even be proud and display the Union flag without being branded racists!"

You might just be branded racist for flying your national flag. We get arrested!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To reiterate - the thread is about people's perceptions of themselves. Not racism, pc, immigrants, or suchlike.

I just find it interesting the diversity just on one small island.

That is all."

It's a great subject but once it's out there it'll often grow legs

.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

None of the above.

I was born Scottish, adopted and raised by Greek parents in England so that makes me very much my own as I'm definately not Scottish Greek English or european. I am me, and there is nobody else like me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"None of the above.

Go you.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

"I'm Welsh

Tidy!

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By *bony in IvoryCouple
over a year ago

Black&White Utopia

English ... London born n bred... With very strong Welsh roots! ...

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By *izzy RascallMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Im welsh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We've been in the EU a long time now, and in a unified Britain even longer.

But how do people see themselves?

Oddly, I see myself as British, then English, then European except when I travel to the continent. Then I feel more European.

I'm Irish but not at all patriotic.

Settled here in London and love this country.

So would you say you were more British or a Londoner.

Londoner. I still have an accent so I'm a 'blow in'.

Shame on you not being patriotic tut tut

what part of eire did you grow up in?

Pah....I'm just not bothered I find patriotism a double edged sword.

what part ireland you from?

A small town in South West."

i see

Any interest in a coffee with a Nice Irish Man in london sometime?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Born in Scotland to Scottish parents, moved to London when I was 18, 34 years ago, so most of my life has been spent in London. I'm 100% Scottish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hwntw, Cymro, Celtaidd .... these feel stronger the further i get from home ... it's part of a feeling we call "Hiraeth" which isn't easliy translated into english

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm Scottish. First, last and a' the time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm Scottish. First, last and a' the time.

me too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Irish then American

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

for tick box purposes i'm 'White British'

but only because they rarely give the option for 'English'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hwntw, Cymro, Celtaidd .... these feel stronger the further i get from home ... it's part of a feeling we call "Hiraeth" which isn't easliy translated into english"

Cytuno'n llwyr - totally agree! Well apart from the fact that I'm a Cardi not a Hwntw

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"Hwntw, Cymro, Celtaidd .... these feel stronger the further i get from home ... it's part of a feeling we call "Hiraeth" which isn't easliy translated into english

Cytuno'n llwyr - totally agree! Well apart from the fact that I'm a Cardi not a Hwntw

A very warm Cardi you are too.

I see myself as British and a Londoner.

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By *its_n_piecesCouple
over a year ago

Cytuno'n llwyr - totally agree! Well apart from the fact that I'm a Cardi not a Hwntw

two out of three ain't bad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"for tick box purposes i'm 'White British'

but only because they rarely give the option for 'English' "

Agreed, I tick white British because there's never a box for 'undefined mongrel' and I can never be bothered ticking 'other' then having to explain below.

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By *xpresMan
over a year ago

Elland

I'm English not British and definitely never will be European... In fact English is pushing it I'ma Yorkshireman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hwntw, Cymro, Celtaidd .... these feel stronger the further i get from home ... it's part of a feeling we call "Hiraeth" which isn't easliy translated into english

Cytuno'n llwyr - totally agree! Well apart from the fact that I'm a Cardi not a Hwntw

A very warm Cardi you are too.

I see myself as British and a Londoner."

Diolch Lickety and you are most certainly a Lovely Londoner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cytuno'n llwyr - totally agree! Well apart from the fact that I'm a Cardi not a Hwntw

two out of three ain't bad

Oi you pair of cheeky Hwntws over by there

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"for tick box purposes i'm 'White British'

but only because they rarely give the option for 'English'

Agreed, I tick white British because there's never a box for 'undefined mongrel' and I can never be bothered ticking 'other' then having to explain below. "

I wrote mongrel on one form under "other".

It was one of those days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have and will always class myself as Scottish

Never British or European

When I fill in a form and I have no Scottish option

I write it myself

Auds

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

& we are Scottish and Welsh, live in England, but really were British overall

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Welsh cymru am byth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"for tick box purposes i'm 'White British'

but only because they rarely give the option for 'English'

Agreed, I tick white British because there's never a box for 'undefined mongrel' and I can never be bothered ticking 'other' then having to explain below.

I wrote mongrel on one form under "other".

It was one of those days."

I consider myself one really. I don't hold alligence to any country particularly...it's all just geography and doesent define any part of me

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By *eforfuncplCouple
over a year ago

Morecambe

British made in Scotland fae girrrrrrrderrrs xxx.

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By *astpoetMan
over a year ago

where the world takes me

"for tick box purposes i'm 'White British'

but only because they rarely give the option for 'English'

Agreed, I tick white British because there's never a box for 'undefined mongrel' and I can never be bothered ticking 'other' then having to explain below.

I wrote mongrel on one form under "other".

It was one of those days."

Mongrel is a great description, and i'd select it every time if i could!

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By *uslaffMan
over a year ago

manchester

English,unless abroad,then I go queue jumping and feel positively French.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've Scottish, English, Irish and Welsh blood in my veins so I guess I feel I'm as British as anyone could be.

Don't really feel European as I don't identify with the mainland to any degree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm Scottish. First, last and a' the time.

me too"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

British Glaswegian

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bristolian. Wasn't born here but adopted the city years ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I see myself a a bit of a c**t

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

British always

I hate the term British Asian - I am British full stop I do not have a British Asian passport

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

I see myself as northern irish but definitely not as European tbh... Not for any particular reason ... Just northern Ireland didn't feel very European. ... Still so small minded and bigoted in many ways sadly

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By *ibbyhunterCouple
over a year ago

keighley

it's amazing how many say they are scots and love scotland but have english address's

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By *at69driveMan
over a year ago

Hertford

"We've been in the EU a long time now, and in a unified Britain even longer.

But how do people see themselves?

Oddly, I see myself as British, then English, then European except when I travel to the continent. Then I feel more European. "
I always call myself British probably because I was born in Northern Ireland but now live in England

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"British always

I hate the term British Asian - I am British full stop I do not have a British Asian passport "
my parents (one set of them) are Cypriot and they're exactly the same, no Cypriot passports,just British. Lived here longer than many Brits have been alive, have more involvement with brit scociety than Cypriot. All very proud to be brit so they are. They still somehow manage to be very Greek at the same time though....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Scottish.

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By *ecretly seductiveWoman
over a year ago

Palookaville

"British but with a very strong Irish background. Explains the argumentive streak in me, I think.

what u saying about us Irish?

we love a good argument lol

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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

"it's amazing how many say they are scots and love scotland but have english address's

Nothing wrong with that. A good friend of mine has lived in Manchester for over 30 years though she's originally from Edinburgh. She still identifies as Scottish.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I am Scottish, then British

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

I'm English but have to be called British because unlike our Scottish and Welsh neighbours we have no say and have to be labelled under British and not English as though its a swear word lol.

Being of black and Italian ancestry i am not racist as i have family and friends all colours but being English i like to fill in forms as English.

I would prefer to be European if being English is not pc or allowed now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Irish.. EIRE

next year I will have lived in UK longer then Ireland. Still have the accent!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a proud Scotsman, and hold no shame in being British. Being a European however does nothing for me. Having a sense of national identity isn't a crime although often you get made to feel like it is. For the most part I love my English, Irish and Welsh "family". Being British is like being part of a hypothetical family, we get identified by our first names, not our surname at home.

'Mon eh Brits

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By *ussypussWoman
over a year ago

South Birmingham waiting for the bf to come back after crimbo

Definitely European

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a Scottish father and an Italian mother.....but I am British and very proud of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cymraes ydw I. A very patriotic Welsh woman. Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have a Scottish father and an Italian mother.....but I am British and very proud of it

Does that make you a MacAroni? Boom boom

... sorry that was terrible

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i am welsh and thats all its going too be never British if you look back in sport just for one if anyone do well from wales or scotland there loved and the classed as British but soon as there not donig so well back too being called welsh or scotish so we not all as one as some like too think lol

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

English, county girl. I was born in London but I belong to the shires!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A welsh valleys woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Irish, with messy American Irish accent that speaks posh

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

"i am welsh and thats all its going too be never British if you look back in sport just for one if anyone do well from wales or scotland there loved and the classed as British but soon as there not donig so well back too being called welsh or scotish so we not all as one as some like too think lol"

If you're going to trot out that winge, is there a reason you left out Northern Ireland?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've Scottish, English, Irish and Welsh blood in my veins so I guess I feel I'm as British as anyone could be.

Don't really feel European as I don't identify with the mainland to any degree."
You may even have

Some dane, viking,visi goths,huns?

Anglo saxon, celts,roman,norman,

On top and anyone else who came

Knocking I still class myself as

English with a bit of Irish thrown

In.

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By *U1966Man
over a year ago

Devon

Devonian

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im from Yorkshire so its the same pretty much all Yorkshire men say, county before anything else.

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By *alldarkhandsomedaveMan
over a year ago

Derby

English and nothing else...!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Canadian....

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By *appyguy17Man
over a year ago

walthamstow

Me.....lived in London most of my life..i still have my Irish accent...

When i'm in Ireland i don't feel totally Irish....nor do i feel English..

I'm in a bit of a limbo really..

But the good thing about living in London....you never feel foreign !!

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm Sicilian moved to the UK when I was 3, I don't really feel Sicilian as I don't really remember the country though I have family there and visit semi regular but it just feels like a holiday, I suppose because this is the only country I remember living in I do feel British even though I'm well awear I'm not

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By *appyguy17Man
over a year ago

walthamstow

It's a strange feeling to be between 2 countries.....

In England i'm regarded as Irish and in Ireland i'm regarded as English.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am Yorkshire first and for most, then English

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Scottish, British then European. But I'm technically African!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Northern irish

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By *all-Eddies QosCouple
over a year ago

wirral

I am plastic scouse....thats it

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By *uslaffMan
over a year ago

manchester

And you're picking up the language a treat

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS
over a year ago

Limavady

"It's a strange feeling to be between 2 countries.....

In England i'm regarded as Irish and in Ireland i'm regarded as English....."

And I assume it's not considered as a compliment in either?

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