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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Just watching the Sunday supplement on sky in which four hacks discuss all things football. One of the topics being aired is the lack of black / ethnic minorities in football management and coaching.

The main plank of the discussion is that black or ethnic minorities are employed to play and as soon as their physical attributes diminish their skills are discarded. Is this an example of institutional racism ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

Crumpet Castle


"Just watching the Sunday supplement on sky in which four hacks discuss all things football. One of the topics being aired is the lack of black / ethnic minorities in football management and coaching.

The main plank of the discussion is that black or ethnic minorities are employed to play and as soon as their physical attributes diminish their skills are discarded. Is this an example of institutional racism ?"

No.

White oldies are discarded too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Just watching the Sunday supplement on sky in which four hacks discuss all things football. One of the topics being aired is the lack of black / ethnic minorities in football management and coaching.

The main plank of the discussion is that black or ethnic minorities are employed to play and as soon as their physical attributes diminish their skills are discarded. Is this an example of institutional racism ?

No.

White oldies are discarded too."
the statistics would suggest otherwise. It seems that less than 4% of management and back room staff are either black or from an ethnic background.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

only 15% of England is non white, so 5% is not too bad,

personally, i would employ someone irrespective of their ethnicity.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

They're behind the times, this was all over the news 2 weeks ago. Still, it would be nice for talent to win through regardless of colour.

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By *rsIdiotWoman
over a year ago

Bedworth


"Just watching the Sunday supplement on sky in which four hacks discuss all things football. One of the topics being aired is the lack of black / ethnic minorities in football management and coaching.

The main plank of the discussion is that black or ethnic minorities are employed to play and as soon as their physical attributes diminish their skills are discarded. Is this an example of institutional racism ?"

No, it's an example of them not being the best qualified person to do the job that they may have applied for. It happens to ALL people, in ALL roles, regardless of age, colour, gender etc.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Just watching the Sunday supplement on sky in which four hacks discuss all things football. One of the topics being aired is the lack of black / ethnic minorities in football management and coaching.

The main plank of the discussion is that black or ethnic minorities are employed to play and as soon as their physical attributes diminish their skills are discarded. Is this an example of institutional racism ?

No.

White oldies are discarded too. the statistics would suggest otherwise. It seems that less than 4% of management and back room staff are either black or from an ethnic background."

Maybe they don't want those jobs? Maybe it's glory or nothing? Has anyone asked the black/ethnic minority players what they want once their career is over?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Of course it's institutional racism. What other explanation could there be for the statistics? And this happens in any industry where there is a lack of transparency with employment practices. Friends hiring friends etc.

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By *er_kateCouple
over a year ago

manchester

People are right there isn't enough black managers in the premier league but how many white English managers are there in the premier league?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just watching the Sunday supplement on sky in which four hacks discuss all things football. One of the topics being aired is the lack of black / ethnic minorities in football management and coaching.

The main plank of the discussion is that black or ethnic minorities are employed to play and as soon as their physical attributes diminish their skills are discarded. Is this an example of institutional racism ?

No.

White oldies are discarded too. the statistics would suggest otherwise. It seems that less than 4% of management and back room staff are either black or from an ethnic background.

Maybe they don't want those jobs? Maybe it's glory or nothing? Has anyone asked the black/ethnic minority players what they want once their career is over? "

'Maybe it's glory or nothing'

'Has anyone asked the black/ethnic minority players what they want' 'They' want what anyone else wants......the opportunity to work beyond their playing days. As the numbers training to be coaches testifies

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By *rsIdiotWoman
over a year ago

Bedworth

In my opinion, this is all just blown out of proportion by the media. What they neglect to tell us is how many non white former players are applying for these roles. If they did then we could judge whether there is racism or not. As it stands, it may be that the rates of employment for non white candidates may be 100%. Until they publicise how many non white candidates are rejected for these roles I will not believe that football is institutionally racist

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Just watching the Sunday supplement on sky in which four hacks discuss all things football. One of the topics being aired is the lack of black / ethnic minorities in football management and coaching.

The main plank of the discussion is that black or ethnic minorities are employed to play and as soon as their physical attributes diminish their skills are discarded. Is this an example of institutional racism ?

No.

White oldies are discarded too. the statistics would suggest otherwise. It seems that less than 4% of management and back room staff are either black or from an ethnic background.

Maybe they don't want those jobs? Maybe it's glory or nothing? Has anyone asked the black/ethnic minority players what they want once their career is over?

'Maybe it's glory or nothing'

'Has anyone asked the black/ethnic minority players what they want' 'They' want what anyone else wants......the opportunity to work beyond their playing days. As the numbers training to be coaches testifies

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Whats with the ? Maybe some players aren't interested in back room jobs. Maybe they just like playing football? It's not that hard to comprehend is it?

How do you know what all football players want? Have you interviewed them all?

As you seem to know all the stats, what are the percentages of black applicants to white applicants for back room staff jobs? Not actual people doing the job. That will real us whether 4% is disproportionate or not.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I think that it's just another strand of institutional racism and the mark of white middle class exclusion. It was interesting that no one asked why there was 0.001% of women in the board room of the top 70 clubs in the UK

Old boys rule or so they think!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just watching the Sunday supplement on sky in which four hacks discuss all things football. One of the topics being aired is the lack of black / ethnic minorities in football management and coaching.

The main plank of the discussion is that black or ethnic minorities are employed to play and as soon as their physical attributes diminish their skills are discarded. Is this an example of institutional racism ?

No.

White oldies are discarded too. the statistics would suggest otherwise. It seems that less than 4% of management and back room staff are either black or from an ethnic background.

Maybe they don't want those jobs? Maybe it's glory or nothing? Has anyone asked the black/ethnic minority players what they want once their career is over?

'Maybe it's glory or nothing'

'Has anyone asked the black/ethnic minority players what they want' 'They' want what anyone else wants......the opportunity to work beyond their playing days. As the numbers training to be coaches testifies

Whats with the ? Maybe some players aren't interested in back room jobs. Maybe they just like playing football? It's not that hard to comprehend is it?

How do you know what all football players want? Have you interviewed them all?

As you seem to know all the stats, what are the percentages of black applicants to white applicants for back room staff jobs? Not actual people doing the job. That will real us whether 4% is disproportionate or not. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you look for racism and delve deep enough you can make most things look different to what they actually are.. How many applicants that were black applied for the jobs.. Do we rule out Van Gaal and Morinyo and Venger.. I never heard of other applicants getting turned away.. is it targetted at GB... Spain.. France etc... Last time I looked the man with the biggest job in the world is black and I don't hear a lotnof people going on about it... just when it suits... Pele didn't do too bad. . Cisse.. Agbonlahor.. Ronaldo.. in the modern game a lot of people make a great living here and abroad... I support a team not a prejudice.. I know it's a forum and I've shown my opinion.. Thankyou. . HIM

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